It's a strange new world we inhabit. Every single one of us is going to emerge in the post-COVID-19 landscape differently, shaped by how we experience it. Our 'QuaranTimes' episode documents one of numerous personal stories around the world. In this episode, we meet Babar Sheikh, whose story resonates with several conversations in present-day America: immigration, small businesses, and, President Donald Trump.

Originally from Pakistan, Babar's family are in the food business, which is struggling like so many others around the world. From processing the pandemic to taking tough decisions for his business, Babar tells us how he's coping in the present; and he also takes us back to his high school years, when he went to school with some famous First Children.

**Credits** With thanks to Babar Sheikh. Hosted & Produced by Vinita Bharadwaj & Chirag Desai. With support from Abhishek Venkatasubramanian, Sukayna Kazmi & Zainab Ujjaini.