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things too. We'll talk about those things. But

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really into the research of

4:52

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4:54

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4:56

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4:58

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You have a book out there. It's called become a wellness

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grateful to you for speaking out about

5:07

this and talking about this because it's not easy

5:10

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5:13

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5:15

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5:17

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5:20

you, what has this journey been into

5:22

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5:24

it's been an amazing journey. So

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I was diagnosed at the age of twenty eight and

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I was told by the experts that you've got

5:31

this incurable disease. There's no

5:33

hope for you. You're gonna end up in a wheelchair. You'll

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5:43

the course of your life. So I started there.

5:46

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5:50

answered my prayers in the past. And and

5:52

I started with one book, my mother-in-law

5:54

gave me a book on talking about how

5:57

all chronic disease stems from infections

6:00

in the body. And as you treat those infections

6:02

-- Mhmm. -- then the disease process stops

6:04

and you'll have a lot of recovery. So I

6:06

decided to take a different path. And

6:08

that has led me through, like, I

6:10

got a science degree and I basically,

6:14

I decided to treat infections, and

6:16

I didn't know what kind of infections. But

6:18

now thirty four years later, you

6:21

know, science degree and coaching over

6:23

a thousand students very closely

6:25

in over fifteen countries. We've

6:28

really learned a lot about the types

6:30

of parasites that make us sick in chronic

6:32

disease. Mhmm. And so we're getting

6:34

better and better at treating them. They're quite

6:36

challenging to treat when you have chronic disease

6:39

because you're infested. That's what we've

6:41

discovered is that we have a lot of and

6:43

it's not just one type It's called

6:45

dysbiosis. That's a word that's really

6:47

showing up in science, meaning we're out of

6:49

balance. We have too many disease causing

6:51

microbes and not enough health promoting microbes.

6:54

So the sicker we are, the

6:56

more infested we are. So I've used

6:58

this wisdom that I've learned by the

7:00

grace of God to really get

7:02

my health back to fully recover from

7:04

MS and to live thirty four

7:06

years without multiple sclerosis. And now

7:09

we have many people that are doing the

7:11

same thing. One of my students

7:13

from nine years ago. Mhmm. She hasn't

7:15

seen a neurologist for nine

7:17

years. Oh. She's been free of MS,

7:19

and she looks so buffed, and she's healthy

7:21

in she wrote a book and -- Uh-huh. -- she's out

7:23

there sharing this truth.

7:26

And I really appreciate you having me because

7:28

it's so hard to get this information out

7:30

because you're so much resistance, not

7:32

just like our doctors are not

7:35

trained on this, but there is no

7:37

financial incentive to treat parasites.

7:39

There's much more of a financial incentive

7:42

to put us on immune suppressive drugs

7:44

for the rest of our lives. So our

7:46

health care system is just so

7:48

out of whack right now. And we do need

7:51

pharmaceuticals for certain things, crisis

7:53

intervention, great. But for chronic

7:55

disease, they've a long

7:57

time ago I THINK AS PEOPLE AT THE

7:59

TOP SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED, NO,

8:02

LET'S JUST SUPPRESS EMEAN SYSTEM

8:04

AND THERE'S A LOT MORE MONEY. The MS

8:06

drugs are over hundred thousand dollars per

8:08

year right now. And the

8:10

neurologists are getting kickbacks on it.

8:12

So it's this sickness

8:15

industry is, it's allowing

8:17

us to suffer so terribly and a lot of people

8:19

are dying prematurely. And

8:22

we have to get these truths back out

8:24

to the doctors and to the practitioners

8:27

that really want to help their

8:29

patients recover and not live

8:31

in pain and acne all their life. Wow.

8:34

And that was a Bingo moment, by the way,

8:36

is they like their patients and they

8:38

like to keep a lifelong patient.

8:40

So how did you start figuring out

8:42

that it might be a parasite?

8:45

Well, it when I was first diagnosed,

8:47

the first, there were four medical doctors

8:50

that wrote books about infections causing

8:52

chronic disease, but they focused lot more on candida,

8:55

the type of yeast. Sure. And then

8:57

probably about ten, fifteen years

8:59

ago, we started to learn about the Lyme infections,

9:02

the Lyme disease infections. And then

9:04

more recently, just because I love science

9:06

and I research them all the time. Dr.

9:09

Allen Mcdonald, the pathologist, I

9:11

think he's from the United States. Mhmm.

9:13

think he's retired by now, but he discovered

9:16

hilarious worms in this

9:18

spinal fluid of every MS

9:20

patient that he studied.

9:23

Yeah. And then also developing tapeworms.

9:26

So he really is huge

9:29

in helping us to understand that

9:31

at the time of death of these people that

9:33

had MS that they actually had life parasites

9:36

in their central nervous system. Not just

9:38

we know that the central nervous system is not

9:40

a sterile environment, but we didn't know

9:42

there were worms in there. We didn't know,

9:44

like, tapeworms or small roundworms,

9:46

etcetera. So that and then

9:48

I study under a lot of doctors, and

9:50

I unfortunately, can't go to the US right now because

9:53

I'm not vaccinated, but I used to attend a lot

9:55

for you. I'm so glad you didn't. Yeah.

9:57

Really? But so I've

9:59

gone to a lot of huge integrator practitioner

10:02

conferences. And I studied

10:04

under a few different doctors that are really experts

10:06

on treating parasites. So over

10:09

time, we have developed a system --

10:11

Mhmm. -- where we use integrative holistic,

10:14

and we really educate our students into

10:16

how to play an active role in your healthcare?

10:18

How to get your health back? Because

10:21

it's really hard to find doctors that have

10:23

all those skills, especially for treating

10:25

parasites. And then if you do find someone who

10:27

won't be paralyzed, then they don't focus

10:30

on diet and all the other parts. So

10:32

-- Right. -- it really takes a couple

10:34

of or maybe three steps

10:36

to recover. You can't -- if you're really interested,

10:39

you can't just start treating because you'll feel

10:41

really sick. So we first change

10:44

our diet. We stop feeding the parasites, and

10:46

then we start to support our

10:48

bodies. So we're feeling a lot better before

10:50

we start treating. Mhmm. And then we

10:52

work with layering of therapies.

10:55

So we found that the herbs we love them,

10:57

antimicrobial herbs, but they're not enough

10:59

to recover from parasitic infestation.

11:02

And so we use the herbs, but also

11:04

antiparacetic drugs and an

11:07

oxidizing agent, which is normally

11:09

I can't talk about it. I don't know if I can talk about

11:11

it here, but It's very heavily censored.

11:13

Are you sure? Yeah. Okay. It's

11:15

too chlorine dioxide. And so I've

11:17

heard of this. I was just I know I'm

11:19

serious. I was just racing researching this

11:21

last week. Okay, go ahead, please. Yes.

11:24

It's a little easier to talk about it now

11:26

because since we've had COVID, THERE

11:29

HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY COUNTRIES THAT

11:31

COULDN'T GET ACCESS TO THE VACCINES LUCKY

11:33

FOR THEM. THE SHOT IS --

11:36

SO THEY WORK WITH DR. ANDREAS

11:38

talk her and learned about chlorine dioxide

11:40

solution and chlorine dioxide. And so

11:42

they treated COVID with

11:45

CD and CDS that's short for flowing

11:47

to oxide and chlorine dioxide solution.

11:49

Mhmm. But we use it orally, but

11:51

very carefully and and safely,

11:53

but orally to treat parasites in

11:55

the blood, and then also enemas,

11:58

which helps to and that's why we've seen,

12:00

we've seen, I have hundreds and hundreds

12:03

of worn pictures, you know, up to two

12:05

feet long worn. Like, you would not be

12:07

would absolutely gross me out to no

12:09

end, but I've also been looking

12:11

into coffee enemas too. And

12:14

a lot of truth in cancer doctors talk

12:16

about that. Uncle Milti had

12:17

a question for you too. Not well.

12:19

Not good. I had a situation where

12:22

I was agnosed with four stage

12:24

COPD -- Mhmm. -- was in

12:26

really, really bad shape. And

12:28

when I took Ivermectin as

12:31

a profile ACCESS FROM COVID.

12:34

IT CLEARED UP. Reporter:

12:36

INTERESTING,

12:36

ISN'T THAT CRAZY. MEAN,

12:39

IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SUPPRESS ALL THIS

12:41

INFORMATION, But chlorine dioxide,

12:43

this is interesting and you're right. A lot

12:45

of people censor it and they won't talk about it, not here.

12:47

But I love that you're bringing this up. because

12:49

these are the things that need to be talked about all over the

12:51

country. And so there are many,

12:53

many countries that are using it now. Now there's

12:56

a actual or I should

12:58

say, THEY'RE

12:59

NOT MEDICAL BUT AN ASSOCIATION OF

13:01

HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND RESEARCHERS. THERE'S

13:04

THOUSANDS. IT'S CALLED COMMUSE AB, SO

13:06

THEY'RE ACTUATING health

13:08

care professionals all over the world about

13:11

COVID-nineteen. But it's been so heavily

13:13

sensitive. I don't know if you know

13:15

if Carrie Rivera, she's friend of mine, but

13:17

she, literally, her book

13:19

was taken off of Amazon. All

13:21

her Facebook, there were thousands

13:24

and thousands of people. She works in the autism

13:26

community, helping kids recover from autism.

13:28

Right. That's basically what I do, but she

13:30

works with different -- Mhmm. --

13:32

supports different people. And so it's

13:35

been so heavily censored and it's such

13:37

a shame because it's so cost effective

13:39

and it's so easy and safe to use.

13:42

yeah, and so now like Mexico, there

13:44

are many, many doctors that are teaching

13:46

their patients how to use it orally in enemas

13:49

and Yes. Understand. But

13:51

you know what? It's a great news though that at

13:53

least maybe the maybe there's something

13:55

good coming out of the last couple of years and this is

13:57

it that people are starting to realize this. and

13:59

you talk about this for autoimmune, heart

14:01

disease, and cancer. So there's

14:04

in your view, the parasitic infestation

14:07

with all those is the same? Do you think

14:09

it's the same? It's different parasites,

14:11

so we know that different microbes like

14:14

to inhabit different parts of the body and

14:16

they produce different poisons. Mm-mm.

14:18

But they do all create an immune

14:21

response, and that is called inflammation. Right.

14:23

And so, like, there let's say, there's certain

14:26

parasite drugs like albendazole or fenbendazole

14:29

about certain cancers? We've been

14:31

talking about that. Yes. Yes.

14:33

And so, like, I from Mike's

14:35

experience because when I work with somebody

14:37

who has MS, they're my student. I'm not

14:39

a doctor. I'm not a healthcare professional. I'm

14:41

just educating them. And so they

14:44

may have multiple sclerosis, but they've also had

14:46

cancer, and they've also had arthritis,

14:49

and they've so they could have three to five diseases,

14:51

a especially if they've been on these immunosuppressive

14:54

drugs for a few years. The

14:56

more we suppress our immune system, when we have

14:58

this war going on, the weaker we become

15:01

and then we're more susceptible to other infections

15:03

becoming, you know, getting a grip on us.

15:05

It's a downward spiral and until

15:08

we

15:09

can take it anymore. And then we end up in

15:11

an extended care home. Right. So

15:13

it's it's awful. Oh, I'm so

15:15

with you on this. Like, you can't even know how

15:17

with you I on this. And so because

15:20

I definitely think this is bringing up a lot

15:22

of different alternative, you know,

15:24

making sure that we understand that maybe

15:27

maybe may maybe it's not what pharma has represented

15:29

to us. And of

15:31

course, cancer, the cures for

15:33

cancer, the cures for even phone yet.

15:35

I mean, my gosh, all of these things. That's

15:37

vitamin c right there. High doses of vitamin

15:39

c can help clear that up in a couple of days. And this

15:41

is why I wanna talk about parasites when we come

15:43

back off the break. Of course, I'm gonna

15:46

ask you how do you get rid of them? What's the best

15:48

way? People out there probably don't know

15:50

how to identify if that's my,

15:52

you know, III would imagine that's

15:54

probably what's causing many things. But

15:56

we'll come back. We'll talk more with Pam Martha.

15:58

The book is become a wellness

15:59

champion. I would definitely

16:02

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16:04

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18:55

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18:57

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19:00

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19:02

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19:04

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and her work. She was diagnosed with

19:28

MS when she was twenty eight.

19:30

And if she does, she don't have MS. And

19:32

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19:34

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20:10

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20:12

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20:14

shows out there right now in America that

20:17

won't talk about this. They absolutely refused

20:19

because it goes up against, you know, traditional

20:22

pharma owned farm we

20:24

we should just call it, you know,

20:26

farm America. Now we're completely

20:29

owned by pharma. Pam, how did

20:31

you get rid of these? How long does it

20:33

take to get rid of parasites? And how do you

20:35

do it the best way?

20:36

that

20:38

Well, it depends

20:41

on how invested we are with the parasites.

20:43

So if it's somebody who A

20:45

lot of people don't realize that they have,

20:48

let's say, they have digestive issues,

20:50

like constipation or diarrhea or

20:53

gas or alternating migraines,

20:56

hormonal issues, allergies.

20:58

All of these things are symptoms of

21:01

being out of balance with our microbes. And

21:04

the sooner we treat, the easier

21:06

it is to treat, and the less

21:08

time it takes and the quicker we recover, basically.

21:11

But when we have chronic disease,

21:13

like the people that I support

21:15

mostly -- Mhmm. -- are people that have Lyme

21:17

disease or MS, PLS, ALS, ALS,

21:20

Parkinson's, we are like at the end

21:22

of the road of parasitic infestation. So

21:25

for people that maybe have had a mess for, you

21:27

know, ten, twenty years, we're seeing

21:29

after twelve treatment cycles that

21:31

I never promise and I never thought

21:33

this was possible, but they're actually starting

21:36

to take steps again,

21:38

which is crazy. They've been in a wheelchair for

21:40

many years. So we're seeing that

21:42

there's so much recovery that we can

21:44

have that we didn't think was possible. And that

21:46

is so incredibly exciting. But

21:48

for the average person, it

21:52

takes like it's we call it a treatment

21:54

cycle. Mhmm. And the treatment

21:56

cycles are, like,

21:58

what we'll do is number one, we'll first get

22:00

ready to treat. Mhmm. And then

22:03

Following the diet, supporting the body,

22:05

we're feeling a lot better, and that will take people

22:07

anywhere from three to six weeks to get ready.

22:10

these are really sick people, so other people

22:12

could do it quicker. And then once

22:14

we start treating, because

22:17

we don't have good tests for

22:20

parasites. Mhmm. Then what we're

22:22

relying on is our health history,

22:24

our diagnosis, our symptoms, And

22:26

then we get energy tested to see

22:28

which of the parasite treatments and herbs

22:31

are testing the best for us, and

22:33

that's through energy testing. that's the best that

22:35

we have right now, and it is helpful. It's not an exact

22:37

science. Mhmm. So certain practitioners, like

22:40

chiropractors will do applied key kinesiology.

22:42

Mhmm. or natural pause, they'll have machines,

22:45

Vega machine, AMA machine, or they'll

22:47

do muscle testing, some do

22:49

ART and more advanced muscle testing.

22:52

And so they're able to see so we we're

22:54

not able to say, okay, which exact parasites

22:56

we have because there's thousands of them. Right. So

22:58

can see which of the treatments

23:00

are balancing us and making us stronger.

23:03

And so if that all makes sense with

23:05

our symptoms and our health history, etcetera,

23:08

then we use those. And then we're using

23:10

safe protocols -- Mhmm.

23:12

-- because we're working with people that

23:15

are really sick, we definitely, again,

23:17

wanna make them feeling better before

23:19

they start. Right. And then we introduce

23:21

treatments slowly one at a time.

23:23

There is a synergistic effect for

23:25

treating, especially the bigger roundworms

23:28

and tape worms and flukes. Flukes

23:30

are another thing that people just don't even know

23:32

they have. Okay. And so when

23:34

you kinda like if you take one plus one

23:36

equals four instead of one plus one equals

23:39

two, it's a better killing effect. So

23:41

we will use combination of parasite drugs

23:44

and then use certain

23:46

herbs, again, introducing things slowly

23:48

one at a time, and then we'll

23:50

treat the larger worms and the

23:52

produce for about ten to fourteen

23:55

days, whatever the student feels comfortable and

23:57

then take a stop and then we will

23:59

knock back fund this because it's always present

24:01

in chronic disease also whether it's

24:04

yeast or different types of molds. And

24:06

then during the break week, so that's for

24:08

ten days. So ten to fourteen days

24:10

of treating larger parasitize

24:13

ten to four, ten days of the fungal

24:15

treatment, and then a break week. And during

24:17

the break week, that's usually where will

24:19

bring back in the oral CD -- Okay. --

24:21

kind of students will use herbs at either.

24:23

Maybe they've had a lot more kind

24:25

of history of Lyme symptoms or

24:27

fungus symptoms, whichever they'll use herbs

24:29

that are geared more towards those, but

24:31

sometimes there's overlap even with treatments

24:34

and with herbs. That's one treatment

24:36

cycle. Okay. And for

24:38

for somebody who's catching chronic disease

24:40

early, they may just do three

24:42

to six treatment cycles, somebody who's really been

24:45

sick. They might treat for a year to a year and a

24:47

half. have question for you and

24:48

then a phone call. Quick question. Yeah.

24:50

Is there anything in this protocol

24:53

that you're talking about? that can

24:55

actually be used as a prophylaxis.

24:59

A prophylaxis for

25:01

Against Parcel It's against

25:03

develop if you're against the business. You're asymptomatic,

25:06

but you wanna protect yourself. Right. Right.

25:08

Right. Well,

25:10

it's crazy because a lot

25:12

of really good veterinarians will recommend

25:14

that we deworm our animals at

25:17

least once or twice a year. So we

25:19

don't deworm us. Oh,

25:22

that's amazing. Yeah. What

25:24

we should do is we should treat parasites

25:26

at least once or twice a year because

25:29

we don't have to go to another country.

25:31

They're in our soil. They come in on

25:33

our produce. they're, you know, if you're eating

25:36

restaurants, if somebody's preparing your food and

25:38

they have parasites, you know, and it's not what like,

25:40

you can get them anywhere anywhere. If you

25:42

pay apples, pets, Okay. It's

25:44

not that they're not in our developed countries. They're

25:46

everywhere. So we've just ignored them.

25:49

Right. Okay. Then we've gone on a

25:51

lot of antibiotics, which has really

25:53

decested our microbiome --

25:55

Okay. -- and so then we're susceptible for

25:57

whatever pair sites are in our environments.

25:59

When I was little -- Mhmm. -- I was on a lot of antibiotics

26:02

-- Mhmm. -- you know, at back in the day, doctors like,

26:04

you gotta go on antibiotics. so you could get get

26:06

strep and you hurt your heart. So my mom would

26:08

always like every time we had a fever

26:10

or the biggest thing for me was I was on

26:13

tetracycline for acne for months.

26:16

And so my ecosystem, all

26:18

the health promoting microbes, were completely

26:20

devastated. Okay. And then I lived on farm

26:23

-- Mhmm. -- and we had every type of animal, and I I

26:25

was out in the pig barn. I was out everywhere.

26:27

So I was susceptible and

26:29

I picked up probably a lot of parasites

26:31

from then. Okay. We have a phone call for you. Hi.

26:34

Go right ahead. You're on with Pam Barton.

26:37

Oh, thanks. Mhmm. Just running

26:40

this by you is

26:42

that we heard or see when the

26:44

cohort came out -- Mhmm. -- when the

26:46

board was at Ibermectin treatments we're

26:48

having high success. As I recall,

26:50

it was a three day, you

26:53

know, five day where you took it

26:55

one day, that ship day. took

26:57

a bit third day to the fifty. Mhmm. There

26:59

was a call. It was only ten to fifteen

27:01

milligrams. Right. Is that still

27:04

considered in

27:06

your opinion, a valuable thing

27:09

to try if you, you know, have you said way

27:11

to do it. Mhmm. because I instead

27:13

of flu, I don't know Okay. Alright. Good question.

27:16

There you go.

27:16

What do you think, Pam?

27:18

Yes. Whenever students

27:20

have or people have COVID, I always refer

27:23

them to the like, FLCC, there's

27:25

really great protocols out there,

27:28

and it's not just Ivan Macdon. There's

27:30

there are other parasite drugs. I know doctor

27:33

Kleinhardt's found Alenia to be he feels

27:35

that's even more helpful. And it's really fascinating.

27:37

It's like, what is COVID and

27:39

also, like, I have questions.

27:42

Hopefully, what kind of parasites do we

27:44

have? Like, Also, if if we do have

27:47

parasites and if we're treating them, our immune system's

27:49

gonna be stronger. So whatever COVID is,

27:51

like me. Mhmm. Whatever.

27:53

Yeah. So there's there's a lot of angles to

27:55

it. But, you know, we have found

27:57

that there's even research showing that, you

27:59

know, fiber mectin can be helpful for MS,

28:01

but we haven't found that it's really the

28:03

miracle drug for Mhmm.

28:06

We found that I'm really

28:08

suspecting this is quite new just from

28:10

the research that flukes are

28:12

like, they cause a lot of inflammation in

28:14

the body. So our students are passing a lot of round worms.

28:16

We know about the tape worms. Mhmm. But

28:19

the the research, it's it's hard to

28:21

find information about Paris sites is not, like,

28:23

really readily available, so you have to go to

28:25

textbooks, etcetera. Do you think

28:27

most of us have them? And then the other question

28:29

is. Meaning, does everybody have them and some

28:32

are just more active or show themselves

28:34

kinda like hiding problems in

28:36

the system that might not show themselves the other question

28:38

is this because I know everybody's wondering this before

28:40

we run out of time. Are you taking something

28:42

you're digesting to get rid of them? Or

28:44

is this enemas? in the world

28:46

is this process happening? Right.

28:49

So when we're taking the

28:52

herbs, antimicrobial herbs and parasitic

28:54

herbs, but also the parasite drugs.

28:56

And we're using chlorine dioxide. So

29:00

chlorine dioxide doesn't really interfere with

29:02

most medications, but we just can't take too much

29:04

too quickly we'll have strong die off reaction.

29:06

We'll feel horrible. Right. But we have found

29:08

that just taking the parasite drugs

29:10

on their own, it just doesn't get us the

29:12

benefit that we want, especially when

29:15

you're really invested. Doing the

29:17

enemas are really helpful

29:19

to do alongside with

29:21

the parasite drugs. I I think

29:23

that the doses that we're taking of the parasite

29:26

drugs, it will kill some of the parasites,

29:28

but some of the really bigger ones, they're kind of moving

29:30

awake. They don't like the pair, and they're moving down

29:32

to the large intestines, and then you can hit them

29:35

with chlorine dioxide enemas, which will

29:37

kill them off. And that's we we have

29:39

hundreds of pictures of worms

29:41

up to two feet long that our students

29:44

are passing. So is it working on the

29:46

fin what is it called findecimal? Where what

29:48

what is that called? If people

29:50

are ordering that, is that working

29:52

in the same way that the things

29:54

that the chlorine dioxide that you're talking about?

29:57

Well, it depends if you get energy tested,

30:00

like some of the parasite drugs will treat

30:02

roundworms, some of them will treat flukes

30:05

so they target different ones. tapeworms.

30:08

Right. So that's why I don't believe

30:10

in just going on to these forms and just

30:12

taking different parasite drugs because you

30:14

might not have that parasite. And

30:17

if you don't take the right

30:19

dose, you can actually make them

30:21

resistance that drug isn't gonna work

30:23

for you in the future. Right? So

30:25

you you don't wanna mess around. We

30:27

we don't recommend coffee enemas

30:29

because -- Mhmm. -- coffee seems

30:32

to stimulate the parasites to even

30:34

decaffeinated coffee. Okay. So we're

30:36

completely caffeine free. We don't wanna make

30:38

them anymore active. and then

30:41

the CD, the chlorine dioxide, it does

30:43

everything a coffee enema would do, but it doesn't

30:45

stimulate the parasites, and it will actually

30:48

kill the worms. that are present in

30:50

the large intestines. We can't reach the

30:52

small intestines with the the

30:54

Animas, but we can reach this large

30:57

Can you get chlorine dioxide here

30:59

in America? Can you get it anywhere?

31:02

Yes.

31:02

That's good news. Yeah. Yeah.

31:05

You can get it. They call it water

31:07

purification drops, so it cannot

31:09

be sold as anything for health.

31:12

And yes, you can. You just have to make sure that

31:14

it's a reputable place, and

31:16

you can get it all over the world actually. But there's

31:19

it's been so censored that some

31:21

of the the people that were really involved

31:23

in at one of the gentlemen, he's still in prison.

31:25

And I don't know what country he's in prison,

31:27

but he has been held for months and months

31:29

and months. AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN SELLING IT. THEY

31:31

WERE JUST EDUCATING PEOPLE IN IT.

31:34

AND THEY MOVED UP AT THE STATES SO THEY'D BE SAFE

31:36

AND THEY HAND IT TO YOU HOUND SO how

31:38

scary it is. Do you think Parkinson's, psoriasis?

31:41

I mean, lots of people are are questioning

31:43

right now, like they're sending me messages right now

31:45

for all these different things. Anything that would control

31:48

motorability? What about pruritus?

31:52

All of this is based on

31:54

infections in your body. You're out of balance.

31:56

You have certain disease causing

31:58

microbes that are causing chronic inflammation.

32:00

Your immune system

32:02

is overwhelmed, trying to fight

32:04

it, and it's not doing well. Right?

32:06

And so, yes, we've even had student

32:08

that had MS and Parkinson's. And

32:10

last I chatted with him, he's seventy percent

32:12

better of two incurable diseases.

32:14

One lady PLS, which is a

32:17

slower progressing version of ALS. Right.

32:19

She's maintained her health for, I'd

32:21

say, two or three years. She -- Right. -- now

32:24

and she -- Right. -- me. Gosh. It's

32:26

like, at last I heard from her, she was at least

32:28

seventy percent better and she's

32:30

playing with her grandkids and she's exercising

32:33

and she's doing lot of bench presses in

32:35

the GM men love -- Yeah. -- it's amazing.

32:37

One it also cracks infertility.

32:40

So one of our students at nurse in Ontario

32:42

She was part of the frontline nurse's gun

32:45

nurses and armed against all of the mandates.

32:47

Yes. And she not only beat MS,

32:49

but she also corrected her infertility, and

32:51

she's got two little Girls now,

32:54

women that get pregnant when they treat

32:56

infection. So these parasites, that

32:59

is This is I'm

33:01

so glad we're having this conversation. I'm

33:04

I I really am because this is so necessary

33:06

right now, and I know so welcome by everybody

33:09

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33:11

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33:15

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33:17

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33:19

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33:21

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33:23

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33:25

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34:50

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34:52

not about begging, and BAM's back with

34:54

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34:56

a lot of questions. And I I want

34:58

her to continue this conversation because

35:01

this conversation I think

35:03

is so important to your life right

35:05

now and those who whom you love

35:07

that please, please listen

35:10

to what she has to say. She's talking about

35:12

parasites. She was diagnosed with MS

35:14

at twenty eight years old. And she's

35:16

not living with MS anymore. And

35:19

so was it apparent was

35:21

it parasites? The cleansing of parasites

35:24

is that because doctor Merritt, when

35:26

I had doctor Merritt's been on the show a lot.

35:28

AND

35:28

SHE BROUGHT THIS UP. SHE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT

35:30

THAT SHE THINKS SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A PARASITE AND SHE

35:32

THINKS THAT CANCER IS AND THAT

35:35

ALL THESE DIFFERENT ALMENTS, KNOW, THAT

35:37

THAT WE HAVE AUTOAMUNE all of

35:39

these things park and since all these things

35:41

can be caused from these parasites. Pam,

35:44

the the website is called live disease

35:47

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35:49

free dot com, and you can contact her there

35:51

for more help. But Pam, everybody

35:54

has does everybody have parasites?

35:56

Yes. They do. Okay.

35:58

Living on planet Earth, absolutely. But I

36:00

think it's important to define what

36:03

a parasite is because a lot of people think that it's

36:05

just a worm but parasite is

36:07

any living microorganism in

36:09

your body that causes you harm.

36:12

So it could be big worms. It could be small

36:14

worms. it could roundworms, it could be

36:16

tea worms, it could be flukes, it

36:18

could be protists, which are not bacteria,

36:20

they're single cell parasites. They're really linked

36:22

lot with cancer too. also

36:25

different types of fungi, different types of

36:27

bacteria. So there are a lot of different

36:29

types of microbes that will

36:31

are caused they are parasites, I

36:34

should say, and they cause disease.

36:36

Well, when people want

36:38

to to and when they feel like,

36:40

okay, I I just got diagnosed with this

36:42

or I've been living with this for a year. I

36:45

don't want to be on pharma. I don't

36:47

want to go these routes or let's say somebody

36:49

just gets diagnosed with something. I know

36:51

you're not a doctor. You've done a heck

36:54

of a lot of research on this and you know your

36:56

stuff on this. And so when it comes to parasites,

36:58

there's going to be a lot of parasite cleansers

37:00

people can buy online. Right? And there's

37:02

going to be a lot different things

37:04

offered. But what should they be dialing in

37:07

on as something that you know

37:09

in your past experience has actually

37:11

really helped them to

37:13

succeed at getting rid of some of these symptoms

37:15

through getting rid of the parasites. So

37:18

if it's a person that is healthy,

37:20

but maybe they have a little bit of gut issues

37:23

-- Mhmm. -- and they want to just go and

37:25

get a good blend of herbs in

37:27

the health food store, maybe do some enemas,

37:29

CD enemas, you really,

37:31

like, listen to your body, like, do you feel

37:33

well after that. All your is your energy

37:36

back, your allergies are gone, your like

37:38

all the symptoms, the headaches, the fatigue,

37:41

getting sick more often, whatever it is,

37:43

if that's all gone, that just means

37:45

you're more in balance. Okay.

37:47

And you get to decide how how

37:50

imbalance that you want to be. But

37:52

if you're dealing with predisease,

37:54

you're trying to get a diagnosis you

37:57

have a diagnosis of some type of autoimmune

38:00

disease, cancer, etcetera,

38:02

then it's really important

38:04

follow the steps that we have in the liver disease

38:07

free plan. They work.

38:09

Like we've worked with students in over

38:11

fifteen countries you have to

38:13

stop feeding the parasites, decreasing

38:16

the carb that carb sets their favorite

38:18

food, then we support the body

38:20

then we just we figure out which

38:22

of the treatments are most helpful for

38:24

us. We don't just take something and

38:26

do a guessing game. But through energy

38:29

testing, we were able to put

38:31

together a plan and then

38:33

taking the treatments at the right

38:35

doses for the right length of time,

38:37

but also washing them home

38:39

and and killing them with the CDN amounts,

38:41

taking the corn dioxide. We do

38:43

want to hit the big and the small ones,

38:45

and you do over a few treatment

38:48

cycles. you become completely

38:50

symptom free. And we like to go

38:52

at least a couple more treatment cycles

38:55

past being symptom free because we know some of these

38:57

round words can lay a hundred thousand

39:00

eggs in one day. That just

39:02

makes me so weak.

39:02

Go ahead. Sorry. I was

39:05

little. That's stupid. So

39:07

we don't want to have a bunch of eggs hatching

39:09

inside of us, so we do want to go like

39:11

if we're symptom free, we'd like to treat a couple

39:14

more cycles. there's biofilms, maybe

39:16

some of you have heard of biofilms, and they like

39:18

to just hide out in the body, hide behind

39:20

biofilms or dormant as eggs. So

39:23

once we do that and we're completely

39:25

symptom free. And I cannot

39:27

tell you, like, I've personally experienced

39:30

this. So Yes, I've been able to be

39:32

MS free, but I still had parasites. I'm

39:34

in Canada. We don't treat parasites in Canada.

39:36

It's almost against the law. So

39:38

once I learned this, And then I started

39:40

because I always want to experience everything

39:43

with my students too. So I started using

39:45

getting energy tested, using the paraside drugs,

39:47

and I passed a lot of worms,

39:49

etcetera. I hadn't yeah. I've got the pictures to

39:51

show it. But I can't tell you

39:54

how much younger you feel.

39:57

Like, you just feel so

39:59

normal when you treat parasites. Like,

40:01

you're just like, I can't believe the energy

40:03

and I can't believe, like,

40:05

the mental clarity the happy you

40:08

can cope with stress, even things like anxiety

40:10

and depression. These parasites

40:13

produce chemicals that really impact

40:15

our mood, our ability to handle

40:17

the stress, our ability to handle

40:19

whatever COVID is. Right? Mhmm. If

40:21

the more in balance we are, the less

40:24

adverse effects we will have from these

40:27

bioweAPMENTS, whatever you wanna call them. So

40:29

it it affects us in every

40:31

aspect of our life.

40:33

phone lines are open 888673

40:36

fourteen fifty. If you'd like to ask her couple

40:38

of questions, we begged her to stay after the

40:40

last hour because I think

40:42

so many people are finally opening up

40:45

to the idea that it can be something that

40:47

they're not hearing from the medical

40:49

establishment. The medical establishment, as

40:51

I've learned too, has become so lawyer

40:54

happy, NIH driven

40:58

they won't look at other things. And

41:00

so I know people are just

41:02

desperate because they want to find out there's gotta

41:04

be a reason. There's gotta be a real catalyst

41:07

as to why? And the medical profession just

41:09

goes, we don't know. It's a mystery. I

41:11

don't think it's a mystery. I

41:13

think it's everything that comes into our

41:15

body that that provides is with these

41:17

parasites. And if we don't get rid

41:19

of them, then I think you're

41:21

gonna see those neurological things happen

41:23

like Parkinson's people were asking about different

41:25

things, you know, what they could do. And

41:28

you is there what other things does

41:30

do you do you find that this is affecting? autoimmune?

41:34

Everything. Everything. The ALS,

41:36

PLS, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, MS,

41:39

We're kind of at the end of the road with

41:41

the parasitic infestation. The sicker

41:43

we are, the more infested we are. Right.

41:45

So, you know, it just progresses. We

41:47

start with warning signs. A lot of times it's

41:50

got issues, hormonal, fatigue,

41:53

and then we start getting and cravings

41:55

even. Like these parasize make you crave

41:58

sugar like a food addiction for some people.

41:59

Like a drug addiction almost. It's

42:02

like crazy. So It's a progression.

42:04

And if we don't listen to the

42:06

early warning signs, then we do

42:08

end up with an and it's not an

42:10

autoimmune. Our immune system

42:12

is intelligent. Our immune system

42:14

is not attacking itself for no reason.

42:17

Our immune system is overwhelmed with

42:20

being out of balance and not being able to

42:22

cope with the parasites we have. As

42:24

soon as you restore balance and that's

42:26

a lifelong journey is restore

42:29

balance and then maintain balance. Right.

42:31

You'll find that you don't have the inflammation anymore.

42:34

The inflammation is the war zone where

42:36

your immune system is fighting these

42:38

parasites. We have a caller. Hi,

42:40

caller. Quick question. Quick

42:41

question. So

42:44

have you ever heard Pam of assuming

42:46

walnut hold? as a means

42:49

of destroying parasite. Walnut. And

42:51

you said that? Walnut.

42:53

Is that what you said? Yeah.

42:55

Walnut hole. Oh.

42:58

Yeah. Yes. Yep. No?

43:00

There. Okay.

43:01

Go ahead. Go ahead. Pam.

43:03

So there are a lot of natural

43:05

things like the colonels from

43:08

apricots and walnut hulls

43:10

and mammalsaput there's hers,

43:12

mammalsaputica, and there there's

43:14

diatomaceous earth. All of those

43:16

kind of things, you know, could

43:18

be helpful if you're a healthy person

43:21

and you just wanna do period. And you

43:23

know what you're doing. You know how to use these

43:25

things. Right. kinda discouraged.

43:27

Even pumpkin seeds are supposed to be antiparacetic,

43:30

but they're not even the

43:32

herbs like A lot of the blends, if

43:34

you go to the health food store, there will be walnut

43:36

I'm sorry, the black walnut and

43:39

warm wood and clothes. Those are three common

43:41

parasite herbs that are in supplements.

43:44

And you might pass worms, but for

43:46

my students, they still don't get well.

43:49

And as soon as they start using bringing

43:51

in parasite drugs and they start bringing in the chlorine

43:53

dioxide enemas, that's when

43:55

the larger parasites start to come out.

43:58

A lot of the parasites are living

43:59

in the small intestines, not in large

44:02

intestine. So the enemas will clear some

44:04

out, but not much. And if you don't treat

44:06

the small intestines, it will keep infecting

44:09

the large intestine. Wow. Wow.

44:12

And there like I said, there's many, there's many

44:14

things you talk about on your website, liver

44:16

disease free dot com. You can also contact

44:18

Pam there too and ask her about

44:21

chlorine dioxide because you're right. That's like

44:23

a dirty word across me. They

44:25

don't they don't say that, and you called

44:27

it water purification. Right? That's

44:29

how you'll find it. That's how you'll that's going away.

44:32

They're allowed to sell it. Okay. I have another

44:34

call quick call. Quick call. Go right ahead, caller.

44:37

Yes, really

44:39

quick. What if you have somebody

44:41

who is doing basically everything right?

44:44

And then hormone, hormonely,

44:46

like, they're not being able to

44:49

pronounce hormones anymore. Is that

44:51

anything

44:51

to do with percy? Mhmm. Okay.

44:55

Pam? Yes. Mhmm. All the

44:57

all the students that I work with, you know,

44:59

they're like, oh, I'm premenopausal. I'm postmenopausal.

45:03

I have, know, Could

45:05

you just see PMS, all these

45:07

different types of hormones, like hot

45:09

sweat, night sweats, d sweats, all of that.

45:12

it's infection. So I just say to

45:14

my students, in my experience,

45:16

like, if you're on hormone replacement therapy,

45:19

Unfortunately, hormones are very

45:21

powerful and they change the biochemistry in

45:23

our body in ways we don't understand. Two

45:25

ways we know is that They definitely

45:28

increase our blood sugar levels, which will feed

45:30

the parasites. Mhmm. They also suppress

45:32

our inflammatory immune response. So both

45:34

of those things are going to support the

45:36

parasite. So when we think it's hormones

45:38

and then our well meaning practitioners put

45:41

up even put us on bioidentical, it actually

45:43

makes matters worse. It actually makes it better

45:45

for the parasites. It might mask some of the symptoms.

45:48

When you treat these parasites, you

45:50

no longer have any hormone

45:52

symptoms I went through menopause without

45:55

any it's just like, oh, I guess I'm

45:57

done. That's what it should be.

45:59

And just how it should be. Of course,

46:02

there could be nutritional deficiencies. You have

46:04

to make sure you're having enough nutrients. But

46:06

if if you need a healthy diet, which most

46:08

people have done everything. Like, they're eating right,

46:10

they're exercising, they're taking tons of

46:12

supplements, and nothing is helping them.

46:14

Some of them have done all kinds of o

46:16

zone and -- Mhmm. -- you know, the people I work

46:18

with stem cell therapy have c some

46:21

people have spent three hundred thousand

46:23

dollars on their health. and they're still sick. They're

46:25

bankrupt and they're still sick. Pam? They have

46:27

never treated parasites. Pam, Martha.

46:30

Thank you. Oh, my gosh. Live free.

46:32

I'm definitely gonna have you back too. Live

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