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Breaking Down the Chiefs' FANTASTIC 2024 NFL Draft Class | KCSN Draft Show 4/28

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Breaking Down the Chiefs' FANTASTIC 2024 NFL Draft Class | KCSN Draft Show 4/28

Breaking Down the Chiefs' FANTASTIC 2024 NFL Draft Class | KCSN Draft Show 4/28

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Chiefs coverage. recap

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of the 2020 for NFL draft talk a

2:02

little bit about the undrafted free agents that

2:04

we've seen this team sign Just

2:07

it's always a fun episode to do just

2:09

kind of you know after a night of

2:11

sleep You know after getting

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you know going through the three days and going through

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that process and just getting to you know

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Sit back and reflect on everything that this team

2:20

has done over the weekend Very

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excited to be here again at holiday distillery. It

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has been an absolutely wonderful Weekend

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out here, and we are looking forward to having a

2:29

party here in a couple hours to

2:32

celebrate the end of the season

2:34

for us at least and Yeah,

2:37

give me a good time Craig style. How we feeling today?

2:39

We're feeling great The smokers are

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firing up behind us, so we've got just the

2:44

the smell is wonderful right here

2:46

It's great to be out here

2:49

feeling great about the Chiefs draft class feeling

2:51

great about Sun by UDF a's We'll get

2:53

into that a little bit too, but I'm

2:55

feeling great about the fact That

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I get to see my beautiful friend

3:00

Matthew Lane face on this fine Sunday

3:03

morning, Mattie. How you doing, buddy? No,

3:06

I'm doing well. I enjoyed another good

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Chiefs draft in the books. This is like a couple

3:10

years ago I think you guys talked about it a

3:12

little bit on the live show Oh, is that a

3:14

mustache are we burying the lead here? Kind

3:17

of kind of here's an issue. I get

3:19

these us quit you don't see it Yeah, I

3:21

okay one at least looks like I shave buddy, so

3:24

you can call all the way down back there I'm

3:26

not I

3:29

had just trimmed my beard way down before

3:31

this before I knew we were doing a

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old mustache thing Um, so there's like barely

3:35

any hair there, but there's a there's remnants

3:38

of a muscle appreciate you in

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support Please continue. You know how

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you're feeling about no, it's okay. We'll

3:44

get back into that later The mustache talk was more important.

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I get it Yeah,

3:49

thanks everyone that helped Help

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just achieve that benchmark as we

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were trying to raise money for Therese

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paler The power of

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Mizzou scholarship for him we raised. Nearly

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eleven thousand dollars. Over

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the course of the weekend at the new

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record for as the Casey Sports Network as

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we're going to this and exceeded last year's

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number of ninety one hundred. So thank you

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all for considering to raise the bar. As

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we we try continue the legacy as someone

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at met a lot to us at guy

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everyone that's involved the Casey sports network so.

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I really do appreciate. that's why we are all

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save down the mustaches. Feel free to make fun

4:26

of us if you are. Wisdom ads are at

4:28

the holidays so related today. But. Look

4:30

into this. guess ah, this draft class. I'm

4:32

we'll We'll talk about the probably go player

4:34

by player a little bit here than get

4:36

into some of the adapted free agency. We

4:38

start. With. Xavier. Where the

4:40

the wide receiver out of Texas? Ah

4:42

the she's make a small move up

4:45

for him. Surrendering. Pick ninety

4:47

five Getting a fourth round? pick back A

4:49

little bit of a pig swap keeping keeping

4:51

it three for three which I. When.

4:53

You see what this team did the rest of

4:55

the week? Boy. Again,

4:58

At Look them. I think that move looks

5:00

even better than today after we've seen what

5:02

the team is done. that those pics. Then.

5:05

It did even when we saw them got to secure

5:07

a new have been happy with them. Just the haze

5:09

a be worthy get them get them off yoga. But.

5:12

And it seems. Absolutely cook and. Maddie.

5:14

I will start with you Xavier, Where

5:17

the. Three. Days removed from the pick

5:19

out. A feel. As though

5:21

the great about the pick he's a guy that

5:23

I had targeted pretty early. What is like a

5:25

this guy looks a lot like a kid City

5:27

Chiefs that see if he fits the profile that

5:29

they usually draft at. the usually go after. And.

5:32

He was one of the last wide. Receivers that like on

5:34

my board I put down as like I think this

5:36

around one target for the sea spray it. So everything

5:38

about sex. how I feel absolutely no worse than I

5:40

did when they took em. I think you could agree,

5:42

really good at this. Off it's. I

5:45

do wonder if they trade. Up. Was

5:47

empty eight necessary. It seems like most of

5:49

the other teams that won front of them

5:51

were into a little bit bigger wide receivers.

5:53

But then you start hearing some rumblings. That

5:55

baby. The Forty Niners were interested alexandria worthy.

5:57

so did they yielded. They know that it

5:59

did. The reason so. Without.

6:01

Ever knowing that's the only any with quibble

6:03

with as the only question I have over

6:05

the pick was wasn't entirely necessary to move

6:07

up. forgive you were the or not doesn't

6:10

matter. get the player when you wanna buy.

6:12

The Brett Beach said that he got where

6:14

we needed. Go get the guy. What a

6:16

decade that? That's good management either and I

6:18

do think that allowed people are hanging on.

6:20

Brenda beams comments about how are they probably

6:22

would have gotten that guy anyway and all

6:24

of that get that you might have been

6:26

right bud some since this before took another

6:28

too wide receivers it as drought last. So

6:30

I mean it's not like. They were completely

6:32

of beauty as this in and I'm okay

6:34

with moving up in securing your got it

6:36

was a small trade up. Again, they gave

6:38

up. Pig Ninety five. The thing that I

6:40

kept hammering. All. Day that day,

6:42

the next day. the day after that.

6:44

I like did they kept their pick

6:46

volume. They still need a couple more

6:48

bite at the apple. Sudden death pieces

6:50

going forward here. They only had twenty

6:52

five players under contract. The twenty six,

6:54

twenty six players under contract. For.

6:57

Twenty twenty Five Before this draft.

6:59

Keeping. Those by to the apple even if

7:02

the value isn't the same, keeping those my to

7:04

the apple I think with imperative and when we

7:06

got to ninety five. We. Were

7:08

the Borden as as five I wake up

7:10

with or or to be players that we

7:12

were okay with. The recent players did go

7:14

off the board early and round for that

7:16

maybe would have been a little bit better

7:19

fit. With the rat been around

7:21

for picks the disease and up with are. Some.

7:23

Of my favorite picks in the draft. So

7:26

you know I don't think that they really

7:28

missed out on the players, did some they

7:30

they we personally. Would. Have been get

7:32

like really pound on the table for their epic

7:34

ninety five So but that being said, Adding.

7:37

As beat element adding that route running ability,

7:39

adding the ability to Xavier Worthy is going

7:41

to put on the field from a dynamic

7:43

nature get them back closer to what the

7:46

Twenty eighteen Twenty nineteen often does work for

7:48

the give city Chiefs. Well.

7:50

Worth a small trade up in keeping you

7:52

people you can stop saying i must thank

7:54

you. I that the. Niners

7:57

to take of talent. ah you know later

7:59

the draft you like another smaller faster type

8:01

guy who they are the same skill set

8:03

by just he ended seeing the way that

8:05

they really currently in the trying to address

8:07

the wide receiver position. I. Wouldn't

8:09

be shocked if you know this. Is

8:12

that if the Niners were actually interested, Xavier

8:14

where the. I. Think.

8:17

That she says didn't care. To.

8:19

A certain love they didn't want to happen

8:21

what happened last. They had conviction about the

8:23

pick. Their. Conviction about the player.

8:26

And. They just weren't going to make sure

8:28

that they took somebody that they value highly.

8:31

And. That's I think that's really all it boils down to

8:33

for this team. Was. You. Know yes yeah

8:35

no lot of my been a little bit more

8:38

insurance maybe some tea to to receive they go

8:40

off the boards was i think. Personally,

8:42

I feel like that's enough to validate the pic in

8:44

and of itself. Were even if they were gonna get

8:46

where the not messing around for a player that. You're.

8:49

At V Basically said like they kind of have a

8:51

very clear vision in a plan for. Knowing.

8:54

That piece of it.i think matters. Spray

8:56

in I think that's that's that's that's

8:58

a good thing. That. You just go

9:00

and make sure your your your insulating yourself

9:02

protecting yourself from losing some of that you

9:04

very feel very strongly about as he fit

9:07

for your team. Yeah I mean it's the

9:09

fit is very obvious. Our. Not said

9:11

you'd you, you've seen it but I or yellow

9:13

he's the to even with mikel arm into a

9:15

lesser degree like you the you know exactly how

9:17

he fits in and I've seen a lot of

9:19

complaint about his weight. I've seen a lot of

9:21

stuff about that you know, eighty We got asked

9:23

about it and gave him the hilarious quote of

9:26

i'd you're asking the wrong guy about wait it

9:28

out I doubt that's that's great but. I.

9:30

Know a lot of people have been pumping him.

9:32

Did dish on jackson? Talking. About

9:34

how to want to smith coming into

9:37

the league yo as a lighter individual.

9:39

still going round one having an effective

9:41

your career. So far the Philadelphia Eagles.

9:44

Tank. Delegates pointed to a lot with all look

9:46

at him he got injured he got his in.

9:48

This is that between the tackles that would those

9:50

were the of those were in situations where Tank

9:52

Dell is in between the tackles getting hurt. How.

9:55

Many times you remembered Tyree Kill Mccall

9:57

Hardman running in between the tackles blocking

9:59

bit. The guy doing any of the

10:01

neo any work inside the box. it's

10:03

very rare and you gotta be smart

10:05

about how you use these players if

10:08

you are taking a lighter player and

10:10

we have seen this that implementation to

10:12

a. With. A Tyree given

10:14

him a cold hard men and so I'm

10:16

I'm not worried about Xavier worthy and his

10:18

weight within eighty read dolphins because we have

10:20

seen these guys get use the proper way

10:22

to help maximize their at a different not

10:25

even a little bit concerned or may get

10:27

the way. Quite a dislike. It started off

10:29

with the see that you can go back

10:31

in it into a in for their like

10:33

any ideas like players the Andy Reid has

10:36

coached over the years you been lucky. I

10:38

mean I would dearly. Thomas is still yelling

10:40

all these different guys right? A Perfect. Yep.

10:42

They. Don't They never got hurt because of

10:44

where a Db put that he put these

10:47

guys in a situation to utilize their athleticism.

10:49

I'm not their place strike. I. Don't

10:51

be given to see exactly where the going down

10:53

fielded. Being asked to box out and I play the

10:55

ball over a jail and ramsey in any way inside.

10:57

so I guess is is Atlanta. Run past jailer

10:59

and. So. Is this place strength? roughly

11:02

you know as a hundred seventy powder? Yeah,

11:04

probably So don't ask him to win any

11:06

you know thing that the sheriff battle the

11:08

football field. Yeah, I know, I just. Have.

11:10

Got well. As knuckle.

11:12

Hardened wasn't playing at one hundred and eighty six pounds

11:14

last year. It was not now he

11:16

was it looks he looks xavier worthy size

11:19

last year so it i'm not saying all

11:21

of com the nikolai under saying like that

11:23

she's used in a variety of ways last

11:25

year and it was a similar sized player.

11:28

Video. Where the they must? Better player

11:31

than in an apartment. But as far

11:33

as. Like the. Size

11:35

of what Mccoll was playing out last year is

11:37

probably going to be closer to what you're going

11:40

to see. Xavier where the way in that next

11:42

year and they were running I'm on Jets. He.

11:44

Was still and run and pass people

11:46

like they. They used him outside the

11:48

numbers primarily. All. Know exclusively.

11:52

so yeah he will you completely objective to

11:54

like mccoll artemis lack of placing did show

11:56

up so it did not like it he

11:58

had show up and leave your words Like

12:00

you could go back to the Super Bowl

12:02

versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like that was

12:04

the most glaring example They were knocking McColl

12:06

hardman five yards off his route path and

12:08

consistently in that game And so there isn't

12:11

absolutely a chance that sometimes Xavier worthy size

12:13

is gonna show up But again, I

12:15

trust the Chiefs I trust Andy Reid to work

12:17

around that because he has in the past and

12:19

I also got to be very very clear about

12:21

this But Cole hardman played wide receiver for like

12:24

two years before getting drafted to the Chiefs and

12:26

like he still was never super technical Xavier worthy

12:28

showed up to Texas and was putting it on

12:30

power five competition Like I don't know the Oklahoma

12:32

Sooners as a 19 year old because he's a

12:34

good wide receiver. He understands how to handle

12:37

So like yeah, he's a smaller wide receiver I just

12:39

don't think it's gonna be that big of a deal

12:41

and he went to the one team that has shown

12:43

you over the years They know exactly how to utilize

12:45

that kind of player. Yeah, not just a fast guy

12:47

18 year old 18

12:49

million you're absolutely right. Yes, which yeah, which

12:52

is all the more impressive. Yeah, I mean

12:54

he's Yeah, he's

12:56

a he's an impressive player Chiefs

12:58

make another small trade up going from 64 to 63 to

13:03

to make sure that they did their offensive tackle and it

13:05

sounds like they were starting to Trade

13:07

try to trade up for this guy

13:09

early in the 50s of the

13:12

draft and this Kingsley Sua Matai At

13:15

a BYU a lot of connections been made

13:17

there went in for a 30 visit has

13:20

the BYU connection to Andy Reid keeps

13:22

saying a mustache But yeah

13:25

I mean they are again they're just trying

13:28

to make sure that they secure the guys that they have

13:30

the strongest conviction about the guys that they believe in the

13:32

most and Craig they went

13:34

got a Quality swing at

13:36

tackle for them another great Andrew you

13:38

quote from about Kingsley Sua

13:40

Matai Yeah, good job. Thank you.

13:43

I've been working on that It's

13:46

actually referring Brett Veitch that in on the

13:48

call said yeah coach coach has been real

13:50

nervous for the past ten picks so again

13:54

Patrick Paul was within those past ten picks. Yeah,

13:56

they're looking at this tackle group as a whole.

13:58

Maybe it wasn't just for Kingsley that he was

14:01

getting nervous about but they feel

14:03

very passionate about this player.

14:05

This kid can run and

14:07

he moves effortlessly. When

14:09

he does put everything together, when you

14:11

see him utilize his hands appropriately, when

14:14

you see him put his feet together,

14:16

it's excellent. You see the ceiling

14:18

of a player like this and you see exactly

14:21

how he can fit within the Kansas City Chiefs

14:23

offense. Deeper pass traps, being

14:25

able to get out on the move

14:27

on screens, being able to really lean

14:29

his years back and enforce his will

14:32

and space. These are the things that

14:34

he does really, really well as an

14:36

offensive tackle. Already another very young player

14:38

coming out of BYU that still is

14:40

going to grow in his physicality, grow

14:43

in that room. Andy had got

14:45

a new toy and Andy Reid is going

14:47

to deploy it in a way that he doesn't

14:49

have to shift his offense. So yes, there's little

14:51

work that needs to be done for Kingsley. You

14:53

know, before we get to a point where you

14:56

feel comfortable with him being like

14:58

a true set it and forget

15:00

it kind of tackle, you know, hopefully he gets there

15:02

soon. It would be great if

15:04

he got there this year. But we're

15:06

now to a point where you're taking a

15:08

gamble on a project tackle without having to

15:10

shift your scheme to turn him fit into

15:13

what you are doing. He just fits so

15:15

many of the hallmarks of what they do,

15:17

just a couple places to improve and you're

15:19

talking about a truly high end left tackle.

15:23

And like, I think it's pretty clear when

15:25

you hear Andy Reid talk to him, they

15:27

continuously are talk about him. They talked about

15:29

his athleticism. Just watch him. You see him

15:31

move. You see how athletic he is and

15:34

you go, no, that's a guy that specifically

15:36

plays left tackle. I think reading

15:38

between the lines there, just they still see the left tackle

15:40

is a more athletic position than they do. Let's say a

15:42

right tackle. That's kind of funny what you want to tailor.

15:45

Right tackle is also a trap. Still

15:47

like they see him like they like the athleticism. They

15:49

think it translates well to being a left tackle. I

15:52

think even just kind of listening through it, they're never going to

15:54

say it. But it seems like there's a little bit of work

15:56

there. Like they don't focus in on his hand technique. They don't

15:58

focus in on how technical anything is. all about

16:00

the athleticism, the upside and what he can become.

16:03

And I think that's why this kind of player goes

16:05

in late round two versus early round two versus

16:07

round one. And that's why we had all those

16:09

conversations leading up to the draft. This is

16:11

the perfect spot to take him. You bring him in. Now

16:13

there's no pressure to step in right away and have to

16:16

be the starter. There's no pressure to come in right away

16:18

and be perfect. You can spend some time developing,

16:20

learning. He's got to tie his hands to his feet. Like there's

16:22

plenty of work, like you guys said to do, but every time

16:24

you watch them, all that pops off is, why

16:26

is this guy so big and why does he

16:29

move so well at this size? No, not

16:31

everything is perfect. There are issues like in

16:33

his like this footwork and the way that

16:35

he takes some angles, but he's so athletic that

16:37

it almost overshadows any of the other stuff that you have

16:39

to really pay attention to see where the work's going to

16:41

be needed. I think it's worth mentioning

16:44

that the tape that we all watched this last

16:46

year was him as a 20 year old. You

16:49

know, that that's a piece of this that you

16:51

need to take into consideration as well. And if

16:53

Kingsley Suamata Iya had come back

16:55

for another year to

16:57

BYU, we would probably be doing

17:00

our way too early mock drafts with Kingsley

17:02

Suamata Iya in the top 20 of the

17:04

draft. This is a player that if he

17:06

had stuck around and for another year

17:08

in college is probably viewed even more with

17:11

another year of work that these guys continue

17:13

to get. Like you're probably looking at a

17:15

guy that gets considered in the first round

17:17

of the 2025 NFL draft. So I think

17:19

it's kind of worth mentioning like, yes, this is a project,

17:22

but this is a kid that played as a

17:24

20 year old the last year of

17:26

college is still growing into his

17:28

frame. Like I still think that there's

17:30

more, you know, like there's grown

17:32

man strength to be had there at some point here in

17:35

the very near future for him as

17:37

well. So I love the, I love

17:39

the pick that this team made. I love the swing that

17:41

they took on the, on the developmental tackle. Yeah,

17:44

there's definitely going to be some development there for

17:46

sure. But the, you know,

17:49

the traits are there. I think one of the, one

17:51

of the chief scouts, yeah, that's always just getting ready to

17:53

bring up one of the chief scouts brought up the

17:55

fact that, yeah, you know, every

17:58

time we scout this, you know, what people kind of. see

18:00

from the outside looking into the

18:02

NFL is, oh, this guy's ready

18:04

to play day one. This guy, we're looking for

18:06

this technique. We're looking for this sort of stuff.

18:08

And he said, while that does matter, not trying

18:10

to say that it doesn't matter. Every single player

18:12

that comes into the NFL needs help

18:15

with their technique. They absolutely need help with

18:17

their technique. A Joel is coming into the

18:19

NFL. Joel needs help with these techniques. He's

18:21

got work to do. So this isn't a

18:23

thing where you just look at a guy

18:25

and you're like, oh, no, you know, that

18:28

other guy plays football better. So therefore he's

18:30

clearly a better player. NFL teams view this

18:32

as there is a lot of stuff that

18:34

we need to teach him. Each NFL team

18:37

does stuff differently. Think about your job. You

18:39

know, there are things that are going to

18:41

be inherent to your job that are not

18:43

going to be something that you're going to

18:45

learn elsewhere. So the same goes for playing

18:47

left tackle or the NFL. So these guys

18:49

always view every one of these players as

18:51

how much do we need them to learn what

18:53

other technique things do they need to learn?

18:56

And more importantly, how quick can they learn

18:58

those sorts of things and translate them to

19:00

the field? I

19:02

think the final thing that just kind of tells you like how, not how

19:05

much development he needs, but like why there might be

19:07

so much. Kingsley only has split

19:09

out. It's according to pro football focus. He

19:11

only has 201 true pass sets in his

19:13

college career. That's not a lot, right? Patrick

19:15

Paul just last year, not this past season, but a

19:17

year before had more than that in one season. He

19:19

has over 600 now. And then a

19:21

Marius Mims who barely played football cause injuries

19:24

has a hundred. Like he's halfway there with

19:26

playing like a fourth of the amount of time. So

19:28

just he wasn't in an offense that made him be

19:30

overly technical for what's going to translate. So it goes

19:32

back to that point. Yeah. You can sit here and

19:34

try to look for a perfect player, but at the

19:37

end of the day, you look for traits, you look

19:39

for the athleticism and you let your coaches do their

19:41

job to get him there. It might be a little

19:43

bit of a journey, but that is not a bad

19:45

thing. It just means they are getting the player they

19:47

think is in the best position for their coaches to

19:49

make the best player. Absolutely. The Chiefs made two picks

19:51

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19:53

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19:55

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19:58

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made a few small trade-ups in

21:16

the first two rounds of the draft just

21:19

to try to make sure that they secured

21:21

their guys and secured the two most important

21:23

positions of need for them heading

21:25

into this draft. They took care of business there.

21:28

We know Brett Veach and his propensity to trade

21:31

up be aggressive. He showed a lot

21:33

of restraint on day three and didn't make a

21:35

single trade-up I don't believe. Or

21:37

maybe did no he didn't think it's not

21:39

at all. He stuck and picked. He stuck

21:41

it. He stayed and picked at every single

21:43

selection that he had in day three of

21:45

the draft and it started off

21:47

they kick it off at pick 131 with

21:50

TCU tight end Jared

21:53

Wiley. Matty, how

21:55

excited were you to see Jared Wiley be selected by the Chiefs?

21:58

No, I love this pick. The Chiefs

22:00

right and like so just taking us back to that round

22:02

for taking off there There was a handful of guys we

22:04

all kind of liked and they all kind of started flying

22:06

off the board in that stretch before the Chiefs pick

22:09

India. It's a three. You're not gonna be upset. You're

22:11

like, wow I think I see a lot of good

22:13

value here That's going before the Chiefs get up and

22:15

Jared Wiley was probably kind of like the last guy

22:17

available from that group of players That you know, we

22:19

would be super ecstatic about that was still gonna be

22:21

available I think it would pick up

22:23

and like it just makes so much sense because we hear

22:25

every year all these past couple seasons a they Need to

22:27

get another tight end to replace Travis Kelcey. They need to

22:29

get somebody and eventually to take over that man So it

22:32

no agrees been great as a tight end, too I

22:34

don't know if you've seen the flashes that you want him to

22:36

be the Travis Kelcey replacement So what do you do? You

22:38

go out and get one of the most athletic tight ends

22:41

in this draft class one of the more athletic tight ends

22:43

coming through The NFL combine all together with the great

22:45

size similar backstory to Kelcey being a quarterback recruit and

22:47

switching the tight end Just a guy that you can

22:49

easily see if again He develops at the rate that

22:52

you want him to you can easily see him becoming

22:54

this like, you know Higher end receiving tight end with

22:56

the athleticism with the length that he has the ability

22:58

to catch the football over the middle of the field

23:00

So he's a guy that makes a ton of sense

23:02

You don't know what you're gonna get from year one

23:05

But he makes a ton of sense for kind of

23:07

like that role for the team and

23:09

I see him even in year one being

23:11

A redstone guy and if he's just a

23:13

redstone guy, that's very valuable I can't mention

23:15

yesterday on the livestream a high redstone guy

23:18

where he can use a little bit not

23:20

just of his size I know that that's

23:22

what we all think of in the red

23:24

zone But that vertical ability his ability to

23:26

get out and run and run away from

23:29

linebackers run away from some DB Some safeties

23:31

could not catch him There's a big long

23:33

touchdown run that he has this what 80

23:35

something yards where he's got players chasing him

23:37

and nobody's catching him You know, that's that's

23:40

rare for a tight end So you can

23:42

see some of the vertical stretch ability you're

23:44

going to get the ball in his hands

23:46

have him run after the catch Which he

23:48

is good at doing is actually pretty nimble

23:51

on his feet. It takes longer strides But

23:53

pretty nimble, you know getting to where he

23:55

needs to get now all of a

23:57

sudden You're going to be able to have that open area

23:59

the middle of the field now the teams are gonna

24:01

play more too high against the Hollywood against Xavier Worthy

24:03

it opens up the middle of the field for a

24:06

Rushy Rice for Travis Kelsey and now for a Jared

24:08

Wiley you got three guys you can put the ball

24:10

on their hands and feel pretty comfortable about what they're

24:12

gonna do after the catch where they're gonna be able

24:14

to run after the catch this creates

24:17

more nightmare scenario yeah and allows you to play

24:19

some 12 personnel where you can get him on

24:21

the move he can block a little bit he

24:23

can move some bodies again not big bodies you're

24:25

not putting them as a why as an inline

24:28

blocker and saying okay down block a defensive end

24:30

and create some space that's not where he's gonna

24:32

be at his best have him on the move

24:34

is more of a kick-out blocker create

24:37

some matchup nightmares I wasn't even I

24:39

wasn't getting the vibe either that they're

24:41

underwhelmed by him as a blocker but no they absolutely

24:44

have sold that they absolutely a little bit just a

24:46

little bit so like maybe you know maybe they believe

24:48

there's a little bit more there than you

24:50

know then then some might think and

24:53

wait I've been holding on to this but I wanted to throw

24:55

this scenario scenario out to you guys if

24:57

you had told if I told you the Chiefs took

25:01

they if you're worthy at 32 Kingsley

25:04

Suomata e at 64 Jaden

25:07

Hicks at 95 and in Jared Wiley

25:12

in the fourth round we

25:14

probably feel pretty similar to what we

25:16

feel right now yeah and this

25:18

is one thing I was just kind of thinking about you

25:20

know the Chiefs make some move-ups to secure their the players

25:22

that they feel the most strongly about right around one in

25:25

round two and they recoup

25:27

all that value back in

25:29

spades by taking Jared Hicks

25:31

or Jaden Hicks are the we have a Jared

25:33

and a Jaden in round four Jaden

25:36

Hicks the safety out of Washington State maybe not

25:38

a position that we were hot to trot about

25:40

this team trying to take early but you

25:42

always got to expect that a little bit and

25:44

round four it doesn't matter anyway this was a

25:46

best player available selection for the Kansas City Chiefs

25:48

and they said so themselves they weren't they were

25:50

surprised that Jaden Hicks was following them to them

25:53

in round four Maddie yeah

25:55

and they should have been right it's a safety has

25:57

been a devalued position so it's kind of hard to

26:00

Y'all is is it in

26:02

the draft being devalued where teams not seeing something with Hicks

26:04

that I think the majority of their people saw I think

26:06

it was one of the biggest deals according to most

26:08

consensus boards out there because a lot of people

26:10

had him as a Top what a clear top

26:12

100 pick edging in towards the top

26:14

of or that back into round two Yeah, they

26:16

are day for our day three round four the Chiefs

26:18

get on the phone They're like, oh wow, we didn't

26:20

know this guy was gonna be available. Let's go and take

26:22

him It's all about the versatility something

26:25

this team absolutely loves other defensive backs. We want to

26:27

play him in the box He want to play him

26:29

is a deep coverage player in the back end I

26:31

was watching back last night and I think this is

26:33

best role for the NFL Washington

26:35

State had no problems just slapping him in the post

26:37

and just saying hey You're gonna be our deep center

26:39

fielder and we're going up against Colorado and Oregon teams

26:42

that have no problems Even the ball

26:44

downfield they're like nah, go ahead and play back

26:46

there And again, I don't think that's where

26:48

he's gonna play predominantly in the NFL But

26:50

the fact that Washington State trusted him to do that and then

26:52

you also can just see what the size Cali

26:54

that he come downhill and play the run He fits

26:56

exactly what they look for and then you get this

26:58

player that the majority of you know people covering the

27:00

draft thought would Go a lot higher great value

27:03

pick I would be interesting to see where the Chiefs were gonna

27:05

go with that pick had he not been available I

27:07

don't have things to read whatsoever. I think he was

27:09

clear just like this guy such the best player available.

27:11

We have to take Yeah, this felt

27:13

like We'll draft this guy and we'll figure

27:16

it out Sort of deal like we

27:18

we would not to say that he

27:20

doesn't fit because he schematically very moly.

27:22

Yeah Yeah, super physical player in the

27:24

middle of the field to these their

27:26

biggest safety Which is crazy in a

27:28

large safety room one of the NFL's

27:30

biggest safety rooms He is a

27:32

the biggest ones. They've got big

27:34

hitter Super smart guy a

27:36

leader checks all the boxes the ability

27:39

to move around It's that

27:41

Swiss Army knife nature that I think has Steve

27:43

Spagnuolo salivating a little bit one of the things

27:45

that I Always had some

27:47

trepidation about with trading Ligeria's need has been what

27:49

can they run from a coverage standpoint? How exotic

27:51

can they get are we gonna revert back to

27:54

maybe a little bit more cover to static stuff

27:56

that we saw? during Joshua Williams

27:58

and Jaylen Watson's rookie years, are we

28:00

going to see a little bit more of that? Having

28:03

another defensive back that you can

28:05

rotate, move guys around. Again,

28:08

if you've got Justin Reid on the

28:10

field, but Brian Cook and Jaden Hicks,

28:12

who's aligning where? You

28:15

don't know. You're not looking at this as a defense and

28:17

you're saying, okay, well, this guy's clearly going to be in

28:19

the post. This guy is probably going to kick down against

28:21

the tight end. This guy's going to line up and slide

28:23

it. There's not a clear defined role. It becomes a little

28:25

bit more amoebic on the back end there. James

28:28

Magnola wants that. He covets that kind

28:30

of versatility and then to get it

28:32

coupled with a player that's going to

28:34

be physical, going to participate and run

28:36

fits, going to be a team leader.

28:40

It checks every single box

28:42

for Spags and Dave Merritt.

28:46

Again, I know I'm very excited about

28:48

a lot of these guys. I might

28:50

be most excited to see how the

28:53

Chiefs implement that guy in particular, Jaden

28:55

Hicks in particular, more than

28:57

anybody else in this entire draft class.

29:00

Yes. I think about one of the

29:02

things I've been thinking about this is like, you're right. It may

29:04

not have been a need pick,

29:06

but the value was just

29:08

undeniable. One of the things I

29:10

think about from last year, part of the

29:12

reason that this team and this defense was so

29:15

successful is that the Chiefs signed

29:17

Drew Tranquill even though they had depth

29:20

at the linebacker position. They had three

29:22

starters. They've got some players

29:24

that they really like. Drew Tranquill

29:26

just continued to push himself onto

29:28

the field and force the hand of

29:30

the team. But when Nick Bolton

29:32

went down, this team didn't miss a

29:34

step. They had great problems there. Great problems

29:37

there. They didn't miss a

29:39

beat when they lost their starting

29:41

linebacker because they had the depth

29:44

and they had the foresight to

29:46

make that move and make sure that they added

29:48

just another good player at a good value. This

29:52

year, I'm not saying that the safety position

29:54

is going to incur attrition, but it

29:56

very well could. This is how

29:58

the National Football League works. And

30:00

so this team insulated themselves with a

30:03

high quality football player that

30:05

if something happens to one of

30:07

their safeties They can figure

30:09

it out and he actually could

30:12

help solve if you lose a Shamari

30:14

Carter if you lose a Brian Cook

30:17

If you lose a Justin Reed for a stretch He's

30:19

a guy that can fill in and help you kind

30:21

of you know He has skill sets

30:23

that have some overlap with some of those guys

30:25

But also can let you reshuffle that group while

30:28

still meaning maintaining the ability to do some things

30:30

Exotically to still do a lot of different things

30:32

on defense. I I adore this pick

30:34

I think it's one of the best picks that this this

30:36

team made in this entire draft I'm mixed. I'm over the

30:39

moon, but I think this is one of those moves that

30:42

Really just kind of changes. I I'm

30:45

with you can't I think it's gonna be one of those moves that

30:47

we're gonna get maybe not this year But

30:49

two years down the road and just go

30:51

how the hell did this happen again? Yeah,

30:53

I can't I can't believe that they let

30:55

the Chiefs have this guy that Steve Spagnola

30:57

has this weapon That is such an integral

30:59

part of their defense. Do you know what

31:01

do you want to know what happened again?

31:03

What happened for the third straight year? Casey

31:06

Sports Network as an interview with one

31:09

of the Chiefs traffic We

31:12

go down to the East West Shrine Bowl and we get

31:14

a chance to interview a bunch of players and we get

31:16

a list of players so, you know, we we give the

31:19

Shrine Bowl list of players that we are Trying

31:22

to have the foresight to say we think these players

31:24

could be selected by the Chiefs or we think these

31:26

are interesting prospects those kind of things and

31:28

so we get there's 200 players there and we

31:31

get 25 to 30 interviews We

31:33

pair that list down and we were able to get

31:36

an interview With the Chiefs fifth round

31:38

pick that you'll be seeing on Casey Sports Network

31:40

later this later this week Maybe

31:42

even like next couple days

31:45

But it's Hunter Norris at the interior offensive lineman

31:48

out of Penn State. It's a player We got a chance to talk

31:50

to Maddie and Craig got a chance to talk to And

31:53

we can't wait for you guys to see that interview because

31:55

you're gonna you're a fall in love You're gonna fall in

31:57

love with this kid but Craig,

32:00

this is a Craig, this is a Craig, this

32:02

is a Craig your guy. It would have been a my guy. If

32:04

I had Samson, the KCSN draft guy, it would have been my guy.

32:07

I've been talking about Hunter Norzad since

32:09

January as a player that I think

32:11

fits the Chiefs, the

32:13

versatility. He explains in his interview,

32:15

you'll get to hear him say it, but when he

32:17

got to Penn State, they trained him

32:20

at all three interior offensive line positions

32:22

ever coming from Cornell as a left

32:24

tackle, playing there for a number of

32:26

years. It's just

32:28

that translatability, that effectivity, and to

32:30

listen to him talk about the

32:33

technical aspects of his game. He

32:35

is such a smart football

32:38

player. I know that everybody's gonna make that

32:40

jump to that conclusion. You go, oh, he

32:42

came from Cornell. Okay, I believe school, all

32:44

that. Yeah, absolutely. He shows that

32:46

when he sits there and he talks about things, when

32:49

he talks about guys that

32:51

he's targeting on a Penn and Pole run, his favorite

32:53

run concepts, the things that he knew that he needed

32:55

to learn from day one at Penn State, he didn't

32:57

walk in to the Big Ten and just go, I'm

33:00

gonna be good here. I'm gonna be a

33:02

starter for Penn State. This is something that I absolutely wanna

33:04

do. I'm gonna kick to the inside

33:06

and I know that I'm gonna be able

33:08

to play against Big Ten competition. Hearing his

33:10

mindset, hearing how he knows this, he's not

33:12

going to be shocked by coming to the

33:15

NFL and seeing bigger, more athletic players. He

33:17

is not gonna walk into this mindset going,

33:19

oh yeah, I'm just gonna be able to

33:21

do this. He has a great

33:23

head on his shoulders and he works so

33:25

hard, he's so smart and it shows up

33:27

on the field, Mattie, because he is a

33:29

player that picks up things routinely, always

33:32

seems to be in the right place, like

33:34

just is the type of guy that I

33:36

think Andy Reid and Andy Heck want in

33:38

their offensive line room from a mental capacity

33:40

just so helps if he's a pretty good

33:42

football player too. Yeah,

33:44

and he's a typical interior offensive lineman. I think

33:46

when you look at the background, he kind of

33:48

falls in, you talked about how smart he is.

33:51

He's great at picking up twists, calling out protections,

33:53

picking up the games, helping him get everything organized,

33:55

but then he's not the best athlete. He's not gonna jump

33:58

out of you for his physical presence. And

34:00

I think that even shows up in his game because it's all about

34:02

his technique. It's about getting his hips around

34:04

the blocker. It's about winning the leverage. It's

34:06

about placing his hands in the proper spot. It's

34:08

getting the proper angles, setting in his anchor. He

34:10

does kind of all these little things that show

34:12

you that I think he understands that there's going

34:14

to be bigger, stronger, faster guys on the

34:16

other side from him, going from the Ivy

34:18

League, showing up now to the Big Ten

34:20

at Penn State, where he's moving positions and

34:22

starts taking reps, starting as a guard, then

34:24

starting as a center for an interior offensive

34:26

line last year that lost kind of their

34:28

leader of the unit. And he takes over

34:30

that role and still continues to progress. He's

34:33

a guy that just kind of gets it. I don't know if

34:35

he's ever going to be a starter at the NFL level.

34:37

Like, sure, there's very much a chance he could be.

34:39

But you want to sit here and say that you

34:41

just got one of the better utility interior offensive linemen

34:43

can play guard, can play center, can get you out

34:45

of a game at a pinch at the absolute worst

34:47

case, like as like a floor for him. I absolutely

34:49

see that in his future because I just think he's

34:51

that smart. I think he understands not only

34:53

how to play the game of football, but how he has to play

34:56

it. He understands how to maximize his physical

34:58

gifts and how to how that compares the

35:00

guys across from him. I think that's that's

35:02

something that's really impressive for a guy that

35:04

you're getting in your round five of an

35:06

NFL draft. It's a very Nick Allegretti

35:09

type player you just described. We have

35:11

been describing him as that since January.

35:13

The chief scouts came out, described him

35:16

as that in their post-rap presser. That's

35:19

what it is. That's what they just got. Another guy that

35:21

kind of fits that similar mold has the

35:23

kind of, you know, the kind

35:25

of makeup to to be that

35:27

kind of guy for this team. I love

35:29

it. I do too. There's a lot

35:32

of these picks, man. Kamal

35:34

Haddon, Tennessee cornerback is

35:36

picked 211 for the

35:38

Chiefs, taking another swing on

35:40

the cornerback position as they, you know, they they

35:42

they've made some selections at the defensive back spot

35:45

the last few years and they've worked out really

35:47

well for this team. Kamal

35:49

Haddon, Maddie, if he doesn't get hurt, if he doesn't

35:51

have some of the medical concerns, do we think he

35:53

goes a little bit higher? Probably

35:56

a little bit for sure. He's

35:58

interesting because when you. there just watch him

36:00

initially I don't think it jumps out that he's not

36:03

a particularly good athlete or that he doesn't have

36:05

particularly great length I think both those things if you're

36:07

just watching on the eye test you would probably almost put

36:09

them into a strength and it's because he's really

36:11

good at maximizing the athleticism he does have he's

36:13

really good at playing the football or his body

36:15

position so that you know average or slightly below

36:17

average our link doesn't show up a lot and

36:20

those kind of things fit what the Chiefs look

36:22

for and then he has a shoulder injury he

36:24

ends up at the senior ball I think he's

36:26

trying to play through it a little bit he's

36:28

still in the recovery process so I think that

36:30

he didn't have a chance to really blow up

36:32

the you know post-season into draft process here when

36:34

you go back and watch if you just kind

36:36

of look at him through the lens of okay

36:38

you're not going to be asked to play man

36:41

coverage across the board we're not going to ask

36:43

you to necessarily be a force player all the

36:45

time that tackling is gonna matter for the Chiefs

36:47

and Steve Spagnolo it's something he absolutely has to

36:49

work on but purely as a cover player if

36:51

you want to just look at him through the

36:53

lens of hey you're gonna be playing a cover

36:55

three scheme a quarter scheme and we're kind of

36:57

limiting you to one section of the field letting

36:59

you be physical letting you show off these ball

37:02

skills he's an exceptional looking player and like you

37:04

would think a guy like that if healthy would

37:06

go a little bit earlier so he had the

37:08

injury probably pushed him back a little bit maybe

37:10

some schemes the specificity push them down a little

37:12

bit but I think the Chiefs end up finding a guy

37:14

that with a little bit of work and then again getting

37:16

into tack a little bit better will go a little a

37:19

lot look a lot better in a couple years and I

37:21

do wonder that while it may have heard his draft stock

37:23

that he played through some stuff

37:25

that he kept himself on the field

37:28

I can see how that endears him just some

37:30

of the coaching staff hey listen you

37:32

know he's hurt he's still gonna be out there he's

37:34

still gonna be competing he's still gonna say I'm gonna

37:36

show up to the senior bowl because I believe even

37:39

with an injured shoulder I can line

37:41

up and still put myself on

37:43

film and perform at a really

37:45

high level I love that about

37:48

him yes when you turn on the

37:50

tape though he's not targeted very often

37:52

he doesn't allow very many completions he seems

37:54

like he's routinely in the hip pocket of

37:56

the person that he is guarding yes you

37:58

don't want him in and coverage that's

38:00

got follow on number one all around the field.

38:03

But we see how he fits in to

38:05

Steve Spagnuolo's defense. He's playing zone, he's making

38:07

the right reads. He's being in the right

38:09

spot. He's got the right sort of spacing.

38:11

And then he's tracking and transitioning to the

38:13

right receiver at the right time. That

38:16

matters. Like again, we've talked about what

38:18

Steve Spagnuolo's wanting to run in 2024

38:20

without a luxurious deed there. This is

38:22

another piece that allows you to dip

38:24

further into the coverage books if he

38:26

can show up, if he can beat

38:28

out a Joshua Williams and a Jaylon

38:30

Watson or a Jaylon Watson on the

38:32

field there. It's another swing at

38:34

a player that is really smart. That

38:37

is a ball denial type quarterback and

38:40

has ball corner, ball, ball

38:43

skills. I can't talk all corners. Did you know

38:45

that we've been talking for a little while? Yeah.

38:47

Yeah. Sorry about that. But anyway, yeah, lots of

38:50

ball skills and a ball denial type quarterback. That's

38:53

really hard to find. Pick

38:55

248 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

38:58

They go back to the offensive line

39:01

and they continue to try to build

39:03

up that group and continue to try to invest in

39:05

the trenches, which is from a concept

39:07

perspective, I do appreciate a lot of the, especially

39:10

with some of the decisions that they have coming

39:12

down the pipe for them. I appreciate that they

39:15

were addressing the offensive line and they go grab

39:17

CJ Hanson out of Holy Cross.

39:20

Very much a project. But

39:22

from an athleticism perspective, they

39:24

took a swing on a player that has one

39:26

of the better athletic profiles that we've seen at

39:28

the interior offensive line spot, Matty. Yeah.

39:32

And Hanson, very big interior offensive

39:34

lineman, right? Like super big, super

39:36

tall, wide body guy. It'll

39:39

be interesting to see what he does. We were talking

39:41

to our guy that did works in the KCS and

39:44

draft guide Zach Kicks about him. And he said one

39:46

of the biggest things he saw was just a ton

39:48

of reps pulling, a ton of pulling reps as an

39:50

offensive lineman. And the Chiefs, the Chiefs like to do

39:52

that occasionally. It hasn't been the biggest part of their

39:55

game going forward. It's, you know,

39:57

they've used it in intermittently over the years

39:59

getting into it. to a power scheme, a little

40:01

bit more counter stuff. So just having that in

40:03

the bag for a developmental kind of reserve into

40:05

your offensive line makes a lot of sense. I

40:07

think you're betting on the athletic traits and looking

40:09

through the sheets like under-appd for agents, I think

40:11

we'll talk about in a minute, I understand why

40:13

you would use this final pick on a super

40:15

athletic interior offensive line that maybe over some of

40:17

the guys they've had as under-appd for agents that

40:19

haven't been as athletic so that you maybe don't

40:21

have to compete as much with them in

40:24

terms of getting the contract in. Do

40:26

you guys wanna know something? I would love to know

40:28

something about BMI for that

40:30

long. What? Holy

40:34

cross tape, a little bit hard to

40:36

find, right? Yeah. Do you know that they had

40:39

two offensive linemen that were eligible for the

40:41

NFL draft? I'm pretty sure on

40:43

our livestream, I almost exclusively talked

40:45

about Eric Schoen, not CJ

40:47

Hansen on the livestream, yeah. I said that,

40:50

nah, not much of a puller. CJ

40:52

Hansen lives to bowl. Like we got into

40:55

the chat afterwards and Zach Hicks, who I

40:57

watched the Holy Cross tape with, they're

40:59

going, wait, what do you mean not

41:01

a puller? It's like, no, it's not a puller.

41:03

It's like, no, CJ Hansen, with this, oh, raps.

41:07

CJ Hansen is fun as hell. Don't

41:09

want to get out into space. As

41:12

a blocker, it is effortless, him

41:14

pulling. Again, the

41:16

Chiefs clearly did not like what they

41:19

had on the table and what they

41:21

had in their reserves from the ability

41:23

to run screens, get to the outside,

41:25

move bodies. Again, we talked maybe a

41:27

little bit about, they may

41:30

not want some of this athleticism because

41:32

of Donovan Smith, because of the Orlando

41:34

Brown Junior, adding another quality

41:37

athlete at interior offensive line along with

41:39

a North Island. Maybe not the best

41:41

puller in that regard, but a Kingsley

41:43

as well, being able to line up

41:45

and get out into space, they

41:48

want to maximize

41:50

the amount of space that they are about to

41:52

have in the middle of the field. They want

41:54

to maximize the blocking schemes for the running backs.

41:56

They want to maximize the effectivity of

41:59

the screens to run the tight end

42:01

screens, the wide receiver screens, the running back

42:03

screens, all the things that

42:05

are homework of Andy Reid's offense. We

42:07

are seeing this reversion back to what

42:09

he has kind of done before. And

42:12

so I am really excited. I think

42:14

this is a player that makes

42:16

a lot of sense in the room to

42:18

replace some of the foot speed that maybe

42:20

they were missing in the past and the

42:22

ability to run some of these things. Another

42:24

really smart player. I'm excited for CJ. I

42:27

am too. I'm excited for all these picks. And

42:29

CJ Hansen is definitely a guy they're trying to

42:31

get out of head of in the undrafted free

42:33

agent market. So they make sure that they get them

42:35

picked. But there were several other undrafted

42:37

free agents that we all kind of got excited about.

42:39

So let's start with this. We got a speed round

42:41

because we got to get out of here so we

42:43

can get this party started here at holiday distillery, which

42:45

we're very excited to do. Come hang out if you're

42:47

watching. Come hang out with us. It's going to be

42:49

a good time. Craig, give me your favorite

42:52

undrafted free agent that the Chiefs took. Do I, I

42:54

kind of have to go with the tier one set.

42:56

Uh, miles battle out of Utah. I

42:59

mentioned that he was the only tier one

43:01

remaining at the end of the lights live stream.

43:03

Again, I understand why he's a UDFA. It's

43:05

more of an athlete than a corner right

43:07

now needs a lot of help with his technique.

43:09

You know, it seems a little lost and

43:11

really matter of its manner zone seems a little

43:13

lost, but it's played against good competition, not,

43:15

you know, somebody that they're delving deep into

43:17

D two D three versus an

43:19

Ole Miss corner. This is a Utah corner.

43:22

He has seen good competition and he's able

43:24

to run with all of it. The athleticism

43:26

pops on tape. He just needs a lot

43:28

of technique help. You're going to tell me

43:30

that Dave Merritt is going to get his

43:33

hand on another super athlete and try and

43:35

teach them technique. We have seen him maximize

43:38

so many guys. I'm not going to be

43:40

surprised if we get to camp. If

43:42

they've got miles battle, kind of squared away a little

43:44

bit more. And all of a sudden he's understanding what

43:46

he needs to do from a technique standpoint, he might

43:49

be getting reps a little higher on the depth chart

43:51

than we expect just because of that athleticism. And because

43:53

they might want to take that swing. Mattie,

43:55

give me one. I'm doing two. Um,

43:57

Fabian love it. The six attack, a lot of four.

44:00

State big-bodied run defender with really long arms. It's

44:02

you know, that's something the Chiefs have liked out

44:04

of the position I'll make a quick hit don't

44:06

worry Baby love it was 21st in

44:08

all of college football last year out of players

44:10

with over a hundred run defense apps in terms

44:12

Of stop percentage so and he didn't play a lot.

44:14

He was a rotational guy He was only in on rundowns,

44:16

but he was still 21st overall in terms

44:19

of run stop rate So no tackle this team

44:21

has a lot of one-year rentals at the position

44:23

bring another guy in a little bit younger Long

44:25

arms big strong body and I'm also with a

44:27

money Bailey running back at a TCU And

44:29

there's a reason when you watch him. He's a lot of fun.

44:31

I people have already kind of made the connection I think I

44:33

wrote this a little bit in the KCS and draft guide. He's

44:36

like a smaller version of Isaiah Pacheco That's

44:38

how he runs. He's very angry. He's very

44:40

decisive. And yeah that leads to maybe not

44:42

the best patient Maybe he misses some dance

44:44

some holes and that he's supposed to see out there

44:46

But puts his foot in the ground it's upfield does

44:48

everything aggressive They just think he's got a little more

44:51

wiggle and the open field I am surprised

44:53

he's athletic testing was so for not necessarily the 40

44:55

time and don't care about the fourth up at the

44:57

jump I don't see how the guy that moves the

44:59

way he did as explosive as he is on

45:01

the field couldn't jump better than I mean a

45:04

very very very Foreigner fell athlete so I'm excited

45:06

to see a money Bailey and Training

45:08

camp and going through because I think there's actually a

45:10

little bit a little bit more there than what the

45:12

athletic testing says Sorry, can't no, that's your kid. I'll

45:15

know that's good. I'll just throw out Carson still the

45:17

running back out of UCLA This

45:19

is a early engine in early

45:21

engine and print into

45:23

the NFL Draft, so he's only played

45:26

three years of College

45:28

football he started at Ball State ran for nearly

45:30

1,600 yards in the last year there Averaging

45:33

for 5.4 yards per carry at

45:35

Ball State turns around averages 5.1

45:38

for UCLA in the Pac-12 this year. There's

45:40

not a lot of there's a lot of tread

45:42

on the tires left He's only had like 600

45:44

little over 600 carries in his entire career He's

45:47

well built not the best athlete but

45:49

from a I think he had

45:51

pretty good vision I think he had pretty good

45:53

toughness in between the tackles. Obviously He's a he's

45:56

a load to try to tackle. I

45:58

think he's a he's a sneaky Interesting one. I

46:00

think he's got some chops as a pass protector caught

46:03

the ball out of the backfield a little bit

46:05

I mean catches yet. I mean he had 60

46:07

catches in three years total Yeah, I mean he's

46:10

used gets used a little bit out of the backfield

46:12

It's probably gonna be the basic staples that the Chiefs

46:15

use it running back anyway Yeah for their win there

46:17

They're not really getting their past their their routes involved

46:19

too much with the passing game anyway, but yeah I

46:21

think he's an interesting prospect. Yeah, we also have an

46:23

interview with him coming from the East West running game

46:25

That we got to talk to him as well. Yep

46:27

as well as linebacker Curtis

46:29

Jacobs. Yep out in state another fun swing

46:32

at the position I I didn't think the

46:34

Chiefs needed to draft a linebacker at any

46:36

point in this draft But I like this

46:38

swing on this player in UD FA Adam

46:40

to the room to see yeah They've got

46:43

some spots that is special teamers and all

46:45

of that I think he's got a good

46:47

shot to make this roster I think Curtis

46:49

Jacobs is one of the best special teams

46:51

candidates in the entire draft from the linebacker

46:54

position So, you know as a true linebacker

46:56

definitely some instinct questions for me Had

46:59

some played a little bit as an overhang played in

47:01

space was asked to play in space Despite being a

47:03

pretty big kid and a good athlete He

47:06

was able to hold up well out there But the

47:08

special teams piece of it I think he is one

47:10

of the the premier special teams candidates in this entire

47:13

draft Yeah, so I like what this team has done

47:15

in the UD FA market We love what they've done

47:17

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doing it on the live. I'm glad I didn't close the show. Wow, that's

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what I was trying to get. That's

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okay. He really likes to get to

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the end of the show. You closed it for the

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change the background here so we can. Yeah,

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BJ said Curse and Steel highlights are very

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BJ really is excited about getting these up

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on. He does have some size on them.

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That is a great. He's

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also brought in two fives. Look at all

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of those. Yeah, I saw that. Look at

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all these names. Do you see all those

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names? Okay, I know you guys can't

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see me. You guys can probably hear me, though. I

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hope you guys can hear me. I'm going to

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spin this. This is, and I'll run down

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the jerseys, or the jerseys, the prizes. First,

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we're going to start with the Derek Johnson

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jersey is what I was going to get

48:54

to. I understand. Yeah, I'm going to click

48:56

to spin it here. We'll see if my

48:58

computer is just going to blow up because

49:00

of how many names are on this computer here

49:02

or on this wheel. I know there's a little bit

49:04

of sound effects you're getting there from

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the wheel as well. Christian

49:08

Moolie.

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Thank you. You crazy.

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Let me

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write down your name so we remember to

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send it to you. Okay.

49:23

Are we doing

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something over everything and all? There's

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a little bit of behind the scenes discussion

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that's happening right now. Congratulations to Christian Moolie.

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Big donation from Christian Moolie. Or a

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number correctly. Damn you so much. Yes.

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Okay, we were talking about stipulations over here. We were

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talking about rules of the contest. Christian

49:46

Moolie, you can only win once. You get a

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good, I mean, the DJ jersey? That's

49:50

just saying. That's a prize. Just saying.

49:52

That's pretty good. All right, here we

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go. This one is for the luxurious

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sneeze jersey. The luxurious sneeze. That's me.

49:59

The luxurious sneeze. Jersey Spitting

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here look we've used this wheel of names

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for a couple of things and every time

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it is absolutely packed Loaded down and I

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don't know if it's supposed to be this

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animal woman, but Kevin public Thank you Kevin

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for your donations and you are

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going away with a Ligarious

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it. Great Kevin Alright,

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Bolton signed Jersey number 54. He signed

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the Nick Bolton Jersey. Oh, yeah, so

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it's a collector's item You could say

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like No,

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Michael Fisher Michael Fisher

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you are go walking away with a Nick Bolton Jersey.

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Thank you for your donation All

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right. This is a big one here the

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Royals. I don't know if you guys have heard this the

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rules are back There's so little boy back the Royals are

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Firm tickets for less. Thank you for

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I'm on did write your name twice,

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but thank you Armand

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Armand Jordan

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Armand Jordan I'm on Jordan. I'm under

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a you're gonna feel real bad if that's actually his whole

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name No, I'm glad we

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wanted all all right. I didn't make fun

51:23

of it. This is a really good place

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to talk Look, we have all really This

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is a trim McDuffie side football. Yeah, it's pretty

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good football player. I'm if you heard Who

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is going to be walking away with the

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good-looking signature door to the base. Oh bigger

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you are walking away with a signed

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this one we don't know Jimmy Duppy

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Yeah, that's what I meant from

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Jimmy Duffy even Better. So. This

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would we have five winners. These

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Who have five winners of this?

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So we will roll through these

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five. A winner or him? relate?

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something happens that we should have made

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craig read all the names. Is.

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Doing a great job. A really is. I

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was gonna say the guy is some of

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