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You all so much for joining us,

1:50

Damn you with my two wonderful friends,

1:52

Matty Landing Craig's doubts. Matthew.

1:55

Are we doing? Buddy,

1:57

There's a lot going on over here we

1:59

add. Baby Recently had a

2:01

baby Liam the other day. I don't

2:03

know what I'm doing with a baby. Way of add more

2:05

practice. With seeds that I as eighty let

2:07

and so as a new experience it

2:09

said it's a busy time and I

2:11

am as say. It's kinda drops.

2:14

Another another track adjusted seen. use them off

2:16

the board. Regrettable to pause the show will

2:18

be go with Alive because like I just

2:20

I am waiting for some of the as

2:22

My Secret. Jr. Know

2:24

your body as you been. Blocked.

2:27

In the The A best word for it

2:29

Locked in right now. Ah, I

2:31

also don't know what to do with the baby

2:34

lamb despite what any of these other individuals might

2:36

say here. But zone out, you said less. I

2:38

and. That. Way

2:43

though, it's good we go a little

2:45

tidbit of virtue football before. it's gonna

2:47

go away for a little while again

2:49

year and so have we get. Couple

2:51

topics to talk about. Hadn't into the Ah

2:54

season. Ah, It's.

2:57

Outage he needed call. A

2:59

Lamb. A Baby lamb. Think.

3:02

It's to the lamb. Not

3:04

point is we go from a lamb to a seat and at

3:06

what point. I'd it doesn't

3:08

matter, I want as he goes for overlay of

3:10

this eve that at no point is it a

3:12

baby. You keep up with that. but it it's

3:14

what it what it does. A big there's it

3:16

today. old. Land and a two month old lamp cake

3:19

is that A see the two months. They're

3:21

entirely different. Reserves gets a care of different ways.

3:23

I've done the research of you. I. Have

3:25

actually ah look at the very

3:27

quickly and at one year a

3:29

land become the seat. Of.

3:32

Gays the right now it's currently a baby. It's

3:34

a lamb. Not. A baby lamb

3:36

does the lamb. Like an infant

3:38

versa. but. Yeah. Toddlers

3:40

very broad, That. That's

3:43

is more broadly to live. I'd

3:45

think that I I think this is

3:47

a I think this is more consistent.

3:50

I'm sorry. I. Did you

3:52

guys go? The rookie minicamp started and is

3:54

it like there is? so I wouldn't bet

3:56

on. Yeah,

3:58

it has. They had come

4:00

and gone and dial is always kind

4:03

of funny to see these players. In

4:05

their first I'd you know is that

4:08

cheeseburger skills not backed him as the

4:10

it's not I agree I do change

4:12

of the scales more numerical straightforward will

4:14

get to it later. Oh

4:17

I'm so fascinated by this. On.

4:20

It was yet. will get into that. Where do

4:22

these positions Breakdowns yellow that we are good side

4:24

but you're just kind of the the mini camp

4:26

off the top. Your. There's some

4:29

good. Some guy is always for the

4:31

kind of see these guys in in uniform

4:33

gain to see them moving around a little

4:35

bit like there's not a sign of. Ginormous.

4:38

Take ways right, but there are some things

4:40

that are definitely a little bit more encouraging

4:42

to. The. Courtesy not the one singular

4:45

drop that we saw Xavier were the

4:47

that Bills fans are somehow like claiming

4:49

they won the trade over which is

4:51

is hilarious if you think about like.

4:54

How. Many trades they've lost at how many games

4:56

as significant they will have to the geez they're

4:58

just like up. Yeah, we

5:01

won. A Why rookie many

5:03

t of video we clearly one.

5:06

Said. Being said, if they're probably going a hang

5:08

a banner for that one. But. Yeah

5:10

matty, it's kind of fun to see. I see

5:12

those rookies out there. Yes,

5:15

Those guys are out there. tear up the

5:17

air on this is that this. Is the

5:20

one thing I ever really are targeting Super Jazz

5:22

thus rookie minicamp because not going to see a

5:24

lot I think that's the bigger than to as

5:26

you don't really get to see much because there's

5:28

a very limited about of like press release or

5:31

like media time and which they get a filled

5:33

and release anything. See you're essentially going off all

5:35

just a couple paragraphs the people have bless you

5:37

Greg have every single day and eighty five whatever

5:39

a business sit here and say in the press

5:42

conference and that's a he the be Eddie sticking

5:44

up for his guy. So I have a little.

5:46

Bit of a tough time getting overly jazz

5:48

overworking. many get. However, The

5:51

one. Thing that I can say for certain from what

5:53

I've seen, this. Is.

5:55

a near where the he can run better

5:57

run routes and local aardman is a wide

5:59

receiver that a lot of Haters like to

6:01

compare him to So

6:03

like just seeing him get in that of a couple cuts

6:05

seeing him run a couple of these you're like Hey, this

6:07

isn't a straight line guys They very flexible very

6:09

good route runner or at least has the physical

6:12

traits to be a good route runner at the

6:14

next level It's like that's two thumbs up and

6:16

everything from there will kind of see as it

6:18

keeps going Yeah, that's the

6:20

one thing that I think we can

6:22

take away from rookie minicamp. Yes. It's

6:24

routes against there Yes, they don't have

6:26

anybody that's up there in their face

6:28

or anything like that But it's crisp

6:31

out of worthy all these videos that

6:33

we're getting are very crisp Outside of

6:35

a drop that was basically the first video

6:38

there that everybody saw because it

6:40

was his first rep of training camp And guess what looked

6:43

like a guy that was very focused on do

6:45

the drill right do the drill right do the

6:47

drill right? And then right at the end of

6:49

it drops the pass. I thought it was very

6:51

funny our buddy Arif Hanson

6:53

he he posted a video

6:55

Arif a son a

6:57

son that good night my brain

6:59

just Ch Surfing there. I am

7:01

so sorry Yeah,

7:04

yeah, yeah, it was working like

7:06

Xavier's hands. Yes. Thank you.

7:08

I'm very sorry Anyway,

7:12

he He

7:14

published a video of Derek Henry's first

7:16

rep of training camp and boy

7:18

they were these looks great by comparison Yeah,

7:21

so, you know take all this with a

7:23

grain of salt I know the Twitter was

7:25

freaking out after the video came out there

7:27

and everybody was losing their damn minds That's

7:29

what camp is referencing with the bills there

7:32

then said oh We won the trade because

7:34

he dropped his very first rep of training

7:36

camp Look at the rest of them

7:38

look at the way that he moves out there Look

7:40

at the suddenness the crispness Everything

7:42

is very clean the way that he cuts

7:45

the way that he moves everything is very

7:47

clean And that's why every single player that

7:49

has been interviewed that has done any sort

7:51

of podium visit at all this week The

7:53

number one thing to come out of their

7:56

mouth Yeah, Xavier's fast

7:58

like he, she's he. Is. Crazy.

8:01

Fast. You know we don't know what

8:03

to do with this he. It's so

8:05

fast. It's not just that, That's

8:07

what everybody's gonna hang on. That's what they're being asked

8:09

about. It's the Christmas is the

8:11

cleanness. It's the cuts that he's doing there

8:14

that are the most important things. Because those

8:16

are things that we haven't seen out of

8:18

these faster wide receivers that have gone in

8:21

the Nfl. It. He. With funny

8:23

thing is if he was just fast he'd

8:25

still be pretty good but there's still a

8:27

lot of value their in a lot he

8:29

can do. Ah, Yeah kind of

8:32

a new and me that people relate. To.

8:34

And like. Either.

8:37

A permit run in a parade because he

8:39

dropped one singular pass by. I I'd

8:42

The funny thing is to as I think

8:44

he looks a lot like comical looked physically

8:46

list this last season like I know we

8:48

know in local are beware hundred and eighty

8:50

six pounds coming into. Yeah. The

8:52

Nfl. By. If you saw the

8:54

way he was playing lat play at this

8:57

year it did not look like the same

8:59

kind of a car and we saw and

9:01

I think I think they viewer the looks

9:03

much more similar to. Yell.

9:05

at what we saw in the cold kind of play that

9:08

this year to sully give you any used as a barometer

9:10

to say okay like. Guys. The size

9:12

can play at this like level like. That.

9:14

There it is. There. It is. Any.

9:17

Read had some interesting comments on on some

9:19

of the some of the players here and

9:21

he has some some pause and take ways

9:23

from some of these guys. And

9:26

we can try to continue on with as a

9:28

viewer the conversation. With. A quote that

9:30

we have here are about. They've

9:32

You're worthy. Performance:

9:34

In can't Yell I recently started

9:36

idea. We've. Talked about the route

9:39

running. We talked a little bit about the

9:41

speed. For. Any real is a

9:43

impressed. By. How you they will retain

9:45

the i able to pick things up. Powys

9:47

able to learn the playbook. I. Thought

9:49

he did a nice job picking things up

9:51

and working through things. Andy Reid said. We.

9:54

Asked the do have a lot of stuff here.

9:56

He was put in mostly the primary spots. So.

9:58

Good for him to get in there. A. Move

10:00

around a little bit. use a sharp kid.

10:03

That's always a good thing to see, especially since one of

10:05

the biggest learning curves when it comes. To. An

10:07

indie replay book in any read. Rookie

10:09

try to get acclimated to an office

10:11

is learning multiple spots in being able

10:14

to handle a very difficult playbook. So.

10:18

They've mentioned this at earth not look at

10:20

sidetracked. First, The Kansas City Chiefs just tweeted

10:22

that a picture of all of the rookies

10:24

at ready to give the draft picks and

10:26

it is the funniest thing I've ever seen

10:28

because exist know where. The a standing in

10:30

between seemingly as other nor that standing

10:33

up in the background. This is that

10:35

when Jared Wiley as I see the

10:37

next year old they have the other

10:39

two smalls kneeling in front of them.

10:41

So to me it's better to that

10:44

effect sir state in a sense it's

10:46

waiting for it. Just got his with

10:48

it is a beautiful it didn't they

10:50

I've ever seen. Sorry.

10:54

I couldn't answer. For what it's wonderful,

10:57

he looks like he's the first to

10:59

suffer from Traffic is going to have

11:01

probably the biggest impact of any player

11:03

in this draft class. It he looks

11:05

like somebody little brother out there. Why

11:07

did they organized him that way? Can

11:09

we the that know therapist? They did

11:11

a purpose right didn't I did as

11:13

producer Tucker question really quickly. Produce.

11:15

A tug. Are. We are we

11:18

permitted to share this photo. Ah,

11:20

On the show right now is that. I

11:24

didn't is up. You can pull

11:26

again. I'll I'll edit it and I'll what's

11:28

known as And so yeah. Well as we

11:30

are, we're going to get back to this

11:32

finity. Besides, Or. Visited him to

11:34

get back to this to get by does

11:36

go back to the voice of they had

11:38

mentioned numerous times that were these empathy smart

11:40

football player I apparently that was street from

11:42

sarkies and ah the coat had go to

11:44

Texas cause him and Edu close now. Obviously

11:47

he's gonna sit up for his. Die. He is going

11:49

to stand up for people you know they keep. We've.

11:51

Added things like that like. it's gonna make

11:53

sense to talk highly by guy but the seeds

11:55

believed the he's a smart football player we've heard

11:57

that from other people not really that she's have

12:00

described him as a smart football player. So

12:02

it's no surprise to me that he's kind

12:04

of come in and been able to repress

12:06

them with his ability to impress them with

12:08

his ability to retain the information, to learn

12:10

the playbook, to do multiple things, to play

12:12

multiple worlds. I don't think that's surprising, but

12:14

it's really nice to hear or really nice to

12:16

see because I do think that is something that

12:19

you always worry about when you think fastest

12:21

player in the NFL history, you're like, oh,

12:23

can he play football or is he just

12:25

fast? I think it's pretty clear that worthy

12:27

is not just fast. And I think the IQ

12:29

and his ability to understand the game really shows

12:31

that and they're trying to get that point across

12:33

to us. Yeah, Andy came

12:36

out and said he is

12:38

playing all three wide receiver spots and

12:40

made sure to stress, we don't have

12:42

anybody else doing that. We don't have

12:44

anybody else that we feel comfortable lining

12:47

up in all those spots. Matter of

12:49

fact, he even stated it's very rare

12:51

that we have had guys that have

12:53

come in that have run in all

12:55

three wide receiver spots. And

12:58

as a punt returner that speaks to his ability

13:00

to pick up the playbook already, he alluded to

13:02

the fact that, hey, some of these concepts are

13:04

pretty similar to what I ran in Texas. I

13:07

know this playbook a little bit. I've seen some

13:09

of this before. So yes, some of that transition

13:11

is maybe a little bit easier. But

13:14

in the same vein, you don't have

13:16

guys at Andy Reid, you know, in

13:18

Andy Reid rookie mini camps that come

13:20

in to do this period. We've

13:22

talked all the time about how wide

13:24

receivers in year one with Andy

13:26

Reid have a very limited playbook

13:28

have a very limited impact on the team. I

13:30

know the Rashi Rice coming in last year kind

13:33

of broke the mold a little bit. But

13:35

even that was a slower start as they eased

13:37

him into some of the things that he needs

13:39

to do. It wasn't until towards the end of

13:41

the year that we were seeing him move around

13:44

a little bit more than we were seeing the

13:46

broader route tree. It sounds like they're putting all

13:48

that on Xavier Worthy's plate immediately. And if Andy's

13:50

already impressed by that, well, that's good. You

13:52

know, we, baby's Never going to

13:55

come out and say, Oh, this guy sucks. He's

13:57

doing terrible with it. Never, ever, never, ever going

13:59

to say that. But what you'll see

14:01

you think that we've seen about other guys.

14:03

You know it's like hague, keep head out.

14:05

Yeah, maybe you'll play some of this way.

14:07

We need to see a little bit more

14:09

here. When you see a little bit more

14:11

here, it's not a few surprises like it

14:13

has Then for his age you're worthy. So

14:15

far into the city. Sets. Sets

14:18

something that I I just can't tucked into

14:20

back my brain here to put this much

14:22

on his plate. A D is so

14:24

excited for it. I'm wonder if we're going to see

14:26

an even bigger impact and I'm even think and I

14:28

got high hopes for Save Your Where the your One.

14:31

On. Wonder if we're going to see week

14:33

one Xavier worthy be a major impact of

14:35

this office? Whereas maybe I was thinking. And

14:37

will see it and spots early on, but

14:40

maybe towards the end of the year we

14:42

see some develop. Now this guy. it may

14:44

be a walk in and play immediately. sort

14:46

a D of. Yeah.

14:48

You know the he hear the cheese talk

14:50

about starting his pack, his players and graduating

14:52

into more of a full time role. Play.

14:55

And ability to pick up the stuff so quickly

14:57

could help in. Your. Hotel Board

14:59

The bypass. Yeah. The package

15:02

player tag in more of a full

15:04

time type of role. A bigger workload.

15:06

A heavy workload where it's not just.

15:08

E. L a package or to just to kick things

15:10

off and you know they might be pushing him

15:13

a little bit harder to try to get done.

15:15

Just. Because you know they my as in

15:17

question marks sitting at the wide receiver position

15:19

to potentially with for see rice So. I

15:22

like that were were seen him get involved a little

15:24

bit. Very quickly by the way.

15:26

Also, and a shoutout Charles Bolden A to Z

15:28

Sports. He's. Ah he's he's accumulated.

15:30

Saw these quotes and used as they

15:32

grow some interesting. Was here to for

15:34

shirt. Ah, Moving on,

15:37

Eighty. Read talking about year and Wiley.

15:40

And. Liking way he did he was said

15:42

he likes what he saw as year and wiley. Ah,

15:45

He likes side. You know that he of

15:47

his ability as a route runner didn't Big

15:50

kid says directions. He was good at blocker

15:52

in college. the will see how that transfers.

15:54

Select. The passing game side of it

15:57

has been very encouraging free Andy Reid

15:59

on the year while the front matthew.

16:02

Get. A. It. Sounds like

16:04

so with these camps A does decide to do a

16:06

lot. Of run game work, Gray eighty reads pretty much

16:08

come out Zola. Hey, we don't work on the run

16:10

game your they actually don't know da's really either. It's

16:12

all passing so. It's. By voting. this

16:15

is where you know. This.

16:18

Is gonna be where you're going to get the receiving skills.

16:20

Never the like that. It

16:22

looks like Salinger alleys been touching everything he

16:24

is look very good. Arm supporter basic about

16:26

the like a he's kind of he's where

16:28

he needs to be. They specifically noted working

16:30

across the field fighting him on crossers and

16:33

stuff like that it is. it sounds like

16:35

your voice but jeered why we have been

16:37

very positive thus far. I think

16:39

we still have to temper expectations. He has

16:41

had the next Travis Celsius and Travis Chelsea

16:43

replace that seats on him and his The.

16:45

Day through traffic that is Ill transitioning to

16:47

play tightened It might take him a little

16:50

bit. I don't think we're going to make

16:52

sure we don't jump the gun based on

16:54

a rookie minicamp. Year because I think some people

16:56

are already edging. Towards that ports are

16:58

doing that into the season because

17:00

the athleticism because there are some

17:02

similarities. The Travis Kelsey. Little. Lot

17:04

of players have tried to go to the Nfl with

17:06

similar. The truth is filthy and there's been one Travis

17:08

Kills like it is a you think we gotta be

17:11

a little careful. With that, but that said, it sounds

17:13

like. Is receiving has gone very well so far.

17:15

Will hopefully that will carry over to Old Yeas

17:17

where they can start doing more one on ones,

17:19

no contact the like, more one on one it

17:21

a little bit. get a book. How. Much

17:23

he retained going from. A relatively

17:26

simple Tc while sense to and eighty

17:28

read off it's it's. Gonna be a lot more

17:30

complex. Ask the do a lot where things. Are

17:32

good And the thing with a D on this

17:34

one is he's impressed by his cuts, He's impressed

17:37

by his movement, abilities of prayer in the highest,

17:39

by his brakes and that's that's put your week

17:41

we featured. Why leaves more of a move? Tighten

17:43

the scheme It even Elite as you know, eluded

17:46

do. It is like. Yeah, we room

17:48

for pets are we Re? I'm have lined

17:50

up. We haven't done eighty of the things

17:52

that would kind of. Dearest. good

17:54

barometer where he is that are

17:56

as a run blocker didn't seem

17:59

super hyped about what he was

18:01

gonna see from that, but was

18:03

very impressed by that. Chris

18:06

Olodokun, quarterback. Olodokun.

18:08

Olodokun, no, I'm calling him

18:10

Ol... What is

18:13

going on? Listen, I'm calling

18:16

him Chris. So old

18:18

Chrissy boy. Chris out here. No,

18:21

he is kind of Pat's vessel for

18:23

this mini camp here. He's talked about

18:26

it a lot, where he says, I'm

18:29

talking to Pat every day. I'm calling

18:31

him on the phone every day. I'm

18:33

describing where these guys like the ball,

18:35

what I'm seeing, the sorts of things

18:37

that I'm seeing, the positive developments, the

18:39

negative stuff, everything like that. And

18:41

he just wanted to gush about worthy

18:43

and widely, both of them. Just like,

18:45

hey, this is different. We haven't

18:48

seen this in a little while. And it's

18:50

not like Chris is sitting there

18:52

in all of these camps, doing nothing.

18:55

He's around, he's been around this

18:58

team. He's seeing Travis Kelsey. He's

19:00

seeing all of these NFL

19:02

level wide receivers. And the fact that he's

19:04

out here and he's thrown into these guys

19:06

and he's so impressed and he's got a

19:08

call and gushed him at homes about it,

19:11

is a very positive thing. This isn't just

19:13

smoke from the team that we are hearing

19:16

here. The fact that Andy Reid really likes

19:18

what he's seeing in the passing game for

19:20

both these guys. The fact that he really

19:22

liked it and Chris really likes what he's

19:25

seeing, throwing to both of these guys, is

19:27

an incredibly positive development. We did not see

19:30

this kind of hype coming out of last

19:32

year's rookie minicamp. Now, we saw a lot

19:34

of hype coming out of training camp. So,

19:37

everybody withhold your expectations for this year, because

19:39

we obviously saw that went forward. They were

19:41

receiving weapons as the year went along, but

19:44

this is different. This feels different.

19:46

And the approach just feels different

19:48

in what they're doing there. So

19:50

I'm excited once they get into

19:53

real OTAs and the real minicamp, where we start

19:55

seeing kind of how they match up against some

19:58

of these guys that have been on the... field

20:00

for a long time in this office. All

20:03

right, moving on, Andy Reid talking about

20:05

the young offensive line group saying

20:08

it's one of the best groups that the things that

20:10

they've had. I thought it was good, Reid

20:12

said, I'll be curious to see what our other guys get in

20:14

here. I mean, we're not going

20:16

live, so you've got to see. There's no run game. So

20:18

other than that, sorry,

20:22

we said we're not doing anything that we're not doing that

20:24

against each other. So you're not going to

20:26

see that going on. But I liked what I saw. From what I

20:28

saw, it's going to be one of the best young offensive

20:30

line groups we've had in here

20:32

collectively now. Three

20:35

draft picks along that offensive line this

20:38

year. So like, I think there's definitely an

20:40

influx of talent and in group of players

20:42

that this team is quite interested in. So

20:44

it's good to hear that this group has

20:46

hit the ground running yet some praise for

20:48

King Lee Suo Mata Ia. But

20:51

as a group felt pretty good about what

20:53

he saw from the young offensive line. A

20:56

long ways to go, especially at that position.

20:58

But you like to hear positive reviews, especially

21:01

when three-sevenths of your draft class is

21:03

those guys. Speaking

21:06

of the group, I think it's time to pull

21:08

up the Chiefs rookie of the last pick group

21:10

shot. Yes. I

21:12

can't. By the way, number 12 is

21:15

Jared Wiley.

21:19

That is not an offensive lineman despite

21:22

his length there. Oh

21:24

my goodness. That picture cut that I get,

21:26

they did all offense in the back and the defensive

21:28

players up front. Like I get how they

21:30

got to this spot. And if you're going to put worthy in

21:32

there, he has to be in the middle. But

21:35

it's just the funniest picture I've ever

21:37

seen. Well,

21:39

it's like a depth perception thing. It's like

21:41

more just like that. He's just farther away

21:43

than everybody. I think you can

21:45

clearly see that he's standing in front of. He's standing in

21:47

front of Puddles over there. He finds better.

21:51

Yeah. Yeah. I

21:54

said, I said I can't do

21:56

a whole lot. Get excited about Ricky Minicamp just in

21:59

general. get a little bit more

22:01

out of it for skill position players and offensive linemen.

22:03

I think Andy kind of nailed it. There's no contact.

22:05

There's no one-on-ones. They're just doing

22:07

drills. It's drills. And that's not the takeaway from

22:09

what he said, that this is one of the

22:11

more promising groups they've had come in. I can

22:13

fully buy that. That they look really good. I

22:15

can buy that. Andy Reid did

22:17

also say, we'll see what it looks like

22:20

with other guys get in here referencing like,

22:22

hey, once OTA start, now we'll get a

22:24

little bit more competition. We'll get to see

22:26

them compared to other guys. We'll see what

22:28

they retain. We can do a few more

22:30

challenging, competitive things. So we'll see

22:32

how it plays out again, going forward kind of

22:35

like everything else. I just think there's a little

22:37

bit less to take away from rookie mini camp,

22:39

rookie camp in terms of offensive linemen. If a

22:41

guy looks bad at rookie mini camp, like that's a

22:43

problem, right? If anybody ever looks bad in rookie mini

22:45

camp, that's not a good thing because

22:48

you're just doing drills. And

22:50

I know we talked about the Derek Henry drill at the beginning,

22:52

but again, that's one drill. I bet

22:54

if we go back and look, nobody was like,

22:56

oh, Derek Henry looks terrible. I bet all the

22:58

reports were how he impressed them besides this one drill

23:01

that made it out. So like, everyone's going to look

23:03

good in rookie mini camp. Craig, real quick,

23:05

real quick, before you jump in. Am

23:08

I like hearing the

23:10

lamb making its podcast debut just like

23:13

slightly, or is that just me? It

23:16

sounded like I heard the lamb in the background.

23:20

So in your world, I'm

23:23

keeping my lamb in my house or in

23:25

the office. I just

23:28

maybe just outside the office in a

23:30

field, maybe just in your lap, just

23:32

like snuggling. I just heard

23:34

them. I heard something. You

23:36

might hear an angry baby, which is also, yeah,

23:39

that's a possibility. I like that you

23:41

jumped to lamb though. That was good.

23:43

That's good. That's good. No, of course

23:45

the offensive lineman look good in rookie mini

23:48

camp. They get all move. Like they are

23:50

all great elite movers. Like every single one

23:52

of these guys, when you go down the

23:54

list, what are they best at? Movement. What

23:57

are they worst at? Maybe some of the other more physical.

24:00

So yeah, you put them

24:02

in rookie minicamp where they can't really light up

24:04

across from somebody and hit them You

24:07

don't get taken advantage of by the defender who has

24:09

a little more pass rush moves than they do and

24:11

really kind of Exploit some of the things they don't

24:13

do well. Yeah, you're getting out

24:16

in space I'm sure that when they

24:18

are running screenplays right now and rookie

24:20

minicamp that having guys like

24:22

hunter norzad Kingsley's

24:24

sua matat ea and

24:26

CJ Hansen out in space in front

24:29

of Carson's field. It

24:31

looks great. I'm sure it does. They're paving

24:33

the way They're able to outrun some of

24:35

these guys like I'm sure it does look

24:37

great So I am taking

24:39

that with a massive grain of salt here

24:42

But at the same time we are

24:44

not too far removed from them drafting

24:46

a Creed Humphrey and a Trey Smith

24:48

in the same year and showing up

24:50

to rookie minicamp and We

24:53

did not have this sort of heat around

24:55

these guys now again They didn't have

24:57

the movement of it Crete did but Trey didn't

24:59

have the movement ability of some of these other

25:01

guys So I

25:04

can see how they get there with this group

25:06

I can see how he's excited for this group

25:08

because he's getting back to some of

25:10

his staples that maybe hasn't been able to Run as

25:12

well in the past for some of these heavier

25:15

tackles Maybe some slower footed players that are

25:17

out in space now all of

25:19

a sudden you've got some really elite movers so yeah,

25:21

you get a little bit excited about that, but I

25:24

am Definitely like this is

25:26

this is the one that matters like even

25:29

through training camp It's not gonna be until preseason

25:31

week one before I started getting hyped about

25:33

any of the players on offensive line

25:36

outside of maybe a Kingsley just to

25:38

see how that technique cleans up a

25:40

little bit because that's a that's a

25:42

true path and being a starting left

25:44

tackle for well, I will

25:47

be looking heavily

25:49

at the photos of Chiefs

25:51

OTAs and Mini

25:53

camps to figure out if Kingsley's playing left tackle

25:55

for this team Just be

25:57

warned. I will be looking into every single foot

26:00

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26:02

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29:20

done positional breakdowns last few years.

29:25

Things went very interestingly last year

29:27

with the Andy

29:29

Reid cheeseburger scale. Matty

29:32

you said you had some ideas, why don't

29:34

you just kind of set the tone for

29:36

this whole summer here buddy? Do you have

29:38

any idea? You're distancing himself from the cheeseburger

29:40

scale. No it's Andy's, it's not

29:42

ours. Okay, last year though

29:45

was the same thing we did the cheeseburger scale

29:47

and it was established by Andy Reid and we

29:49

broke down and compared the cheese position

29:51

to Abilish. Various

29:54

cheeseburger establishments around the Kansas City area.

29:57

That's how bad you call it. And

30:01

it went great. People of the some

30:03

people didn't like it but nord. He

30:06

got people go it okay in so. This

30:08

year and a scrap of the cheese resources

30:11

that are still is. Our cheeseburgers are definitely

30:13

twenty twenty three. Think you're moving on to

30:15

newer and more clear and more directed, easier

30:17

to understand heights. So for this year we're

30:20

no longer using the cheeseburger skill we are

30:22

in. Fact: Using the Italian food scale

30:24

this season says each Kansas City Chiefs

30:27

position will groups said. The Italian food

30:29

still goes as follows: Of course that

30:31

Top Dog is Go! Rose owes you

30:34

out of bed and your the kids

30:36

City area make your way to grow

30:38

Those Get yourself a speedy it's phenomenal.

30:41

Next up. Close. Agate but it's

30:43

it. It's clearly second place Cast goalies also

30:45

delicious. Have a bid get their have lot

30:47

of one grows those elite perfect. This is

30:50

what you want to shoot for. Passcode is

30:52

this is very good this above have this

30:54

is a good spot to be and go

30:56

at Greg you have a question I would

30:59

just gonna say or are. You

31:01

trying to get a mob hit put out on use.

31:03

You better be careful about the last two bodies. With.

31:06

Grip Oh. With. All three we

31:08

say face the last sip. Okay

31:10

now the below. Average Like the god this

31:12

works. This will get me through a tough night and

31:14

get us to a top. We gave a we don't

31:16

We really want to get better for this Olive Garden.

31:19

At. It's fine you go to Olive Garden.

31:21

Not like hating yourself, but also you want. To

31:23

do better and then finally this needs a ton

31:25

of improve it. We don't like it, we have

31:28

to deal with it. Was. Always. Yeah,

31:30

a lot I'm rolling again it is

31:32

that he's He's Italian food at it.

31:35

We. Jobs. And. It's a voice. To

31:38

do list those off top to bottom. A good

31:40

for the people at home. definitely not for me.

31:42

Oh for sure I wrote it down. Rose

31:45

those Elites testimonies. Very.

31:48

Good. Olive Garden? Yeah,

31:50

okay. it works. Was.

31:52

Always a puzzle. Things. Except.

31:55

That that? that? Sit.

31:58

Sit. With. Them. We've.

32:02

Always. Ah, My

32:04

his successor. Our

32:06

the ah ok. Let's.

32:09

Do Quarterback Grove those. Fish.

32:12

Prefer honor I out move it added

32:14

advantage that goal yeah ah zoning cedric

32:17

Such a you're fired Tucker your fight

32:19

I see like pay the game for

32:21

a second. Ah

32:24

no it's argued about the girls those of

32:26

with Arsenal Football League in some would say

32:28

the his of the sport the quarterback position.

32:31

Said. And phenomenally with with V

32:33

I would padgett revival homes a

32:35

idiot book. Is

32:38

it and also he and but. Ah,

32:40

I will say I do think this is that

32:42

this might wind up being the best backup quarterback

32:45

that she says ever had. Ah

32:47

you know I know the think it's kind of

32:49

weird because. Sad. Had he was. Taken

32:52

when you inside any didn't tin.

32:54

Can put a drive together. And

32:56

Tell had he can be consistent in

32:58

smart and make good decisions. The football

33:00

gets down the field. And

33:03

then I see Carson Wentz is like course the words of

33:05

my B o two when you to out of us to

33:07

at a three. He might be able to

33:09

put a small stretch together. In case

33:11

something did indeed happen to Patrick mom's

33:14

for a stretch that forced in the

33:16

midst games I feel better about. Carson.

33:19

Wentz his presence in this team or a

33:21

extended period of time that any quarterback adding

33:23

the team is ever had. Yeah,

33:26

I think we're all done. Agree about Patrick Bones

33:28

like yo that's a gross those that easy in

33:30

this whole. this opposition group is hop and light.

33:32

It's elite. there's no real questions to be ass

33:35

or holes to be pulled. And I think you

33:37

only further frame that when you look at Carson

33:39

wit flight. This is a guy that was. In

33:41

the running for an M V

33:43

P season that a while though.

33:46

But. Not that long ago, right? That

33:48

seems ago. That. Is still

33:50

within the realm of possibility. But like that

33:52

is still that the memory other use. Like

33:54

myself, Carson Wentz was an Mvp candidate, right?

33:57

and so. That's. Giving them.

33:59

An awesome. Backup quarterback you attach will

34:01

have this guy's. Going to step in for

34:03

a series for a game if you need to.

34:05

whatever it may be adding unit he died. Drive

34:07

down a further down the list like we got

34:09

off or Duke and Ed is he a book?

34:12

Or. What a battle for to be three as

34:14

our A I don't think it's a battle really is

34:16

as I like. I like what I've seen. Ah, but

34:18

out of Chris going with through the seasons of stuff

34:21

like that either, you've gotten better each and every. Single

34:23

pod. we've got a seed go out there. I liked

34:25

him as as developmental quarterbacks three that they don't have

34:27

the put on thirty three med rosters like there's not

34:29

really any holes. The poke in this position of the

34:32

fact that Carson Wentz doesn't have a number. Which.

34:34

Who would be a prop? Joe.

34:38

Carson. Wentz. Clearly.

34:40

The best backup that they have had. With.

34:42

Patrick my homes as the

34:44

starting quarterback, so I believe

34:46

we even. Place. This

34:48

a top. The. Cheeseburger scale last

34:51

year with only got better. Make

34:53

it really. Has just gotten

34:55

better. Yeah third cousin was go be a

34:57

little bit of a rollercoaster at times, but.

35:00

So. Was Blaine Gabbert. So.

35:02

Was shed any your your yeah Blake

35:04

ever was a lot league Our was

35:06

Jos dad. Well. Mine

35:09

mean as far as they are you was

35:12

a backup quarterback and the hum of them

35:14

are as by i'm i'm not there are

35:16

muslim had done complaint our i think use

35:18

the were as backup quarterback to the cheese

35:20

of that the patch bomb their as we

35:23

continue. I mean. With. I

35:25

think will remember chad any setting in

35:27

that more stepping in winning games for

35:29

this team when they absolutely needed that

35:31

to happen. It's a we just kind

35:33

of chalk that up as. Hey.

35:36

They're definitely gonna need this. They're

35:38

definitely gonna need it at some

35:40

point. They did meet Blaine Gabbert

35:42

do that last year, and so

35:44

an ideal scenario here is that

35:46

you're paying Carson Wentz a. Fairly.

35:49

Decent sum of money year not like.

35:51

A week backup quarterback Money or anything

35:54

but. Decent. and

35:56

us money to be a back up

35:58

and never taken as snap or to

36:00

take only the week 18 snaps

36:02

like that's what you are hoping for here

36:06

Carson wins can do a little bit more than

36:08

what some of those other guys been able to

36:10

do he's familiar with the

36:12

offense especially under Doug Peterson he that's

36:15

where he was having some of his

36:17

you know most success in the NFL

36:19

was under Doug he's going under a

36:21

similar system here he's got good supporting

36:24

his roles here he's gonna be able

36:26

to not have a ton of pressure

36:28

on him he's not competing for a

36:30

spot like he has been over the

36:33

past several years until very very recently

36:35

with last year it's always been a

36:37

little bit of a weight on his shoulders

36:39

here he shows up to Kansas City before

36:42

the season starts you're gonna get the full

36:44

playbook he's not expected to contribute in a

36:46

massive way for this team in any way

36:48

shape or form so yeah

36:50

you're still relying on Patrick Mahomes and

36:53

you've got a good quality backup here

36:55

and a good quality third QB like

36:57

good enough quality third QB it's

37:00

a very easy Garrosos here

37:03

I like I think I like the

37:05

the the room to like I

37:07

think it's a great way of putting it just beyond the

37:09

top two it's like I think there's always been a good

37:11

sound board you know

37:13

or you know a good kind of

37:16

guy in the room for Patrick you know a

37:19

guy like Chris Oledo can or

37:21

a Shane Bushell like Shane Bushell is out

37:23

with he's out in Miami

37:25

right now with Patrick Mahomes right now like

37:27

he's still got a relationship with the Shane

37:29

Bushell even outside of that so like I

37:31

think it's kind of cool to see can

37:34

we move on to the defensive tackle is that all

37:36

right yeah

37:38

I think so I think we yeah we can get

37:40

back out jump in the car we got to go

37:42

and hit our second course which which Italian restaurant are

37:45

we going to now get oh my god I guess

37:47

that I guess Maddie doesn't think there's the Garrosos or

37:49

else you would have just spayed I

37:52

Think it's funny that we have aired

37:54

the two two of the biggest blue

37:56

chips in not only this season but

37:59

team history together. With the defensive

38:01

tackles in the quarterback so offensive tackles I'm gonna

38:03

give it a cast. go on a that the

38:05

it's a very good position and I think they're

38:07

very good is doing. Ah, With

38:09

Christians doing a lot of the

38:12

heavy lifting years. the wine with

38:14

the parmesan cheese scraper that is

38:16

just lowden up your salad and

38:18

lowden appeared your your meal right

38:20

there because usual lot of have

38:22

lived for this team. When.

38:24

It comes to the Feds tackled position as

38:27

always been the case though as is always

38:29

been the case with the defensive tackle position

38:31

I think he of their kind of spending

38:33

big with Chris and really not making a

38:35

ton of major investments or major yelled like

38:37

and signing a bunch of big players. Beyond

38:39

that they've got a lot of players on

38:42

one year deals. They. Have a lot

38:44

of players. I defective. Three. Players

38:46

on where players on one year deals. They've.

38:49

You know they they brought back to work and

38:51

that mike Now they're naughty. Ah,

38:53

That decreasing I say a Bugs. And.

38:56

You've got Neil fail. The traded for. Ah,

38:59

Last year and then Fabian the vet. Someone that

39:01

could potentially stick in there on the roster. but.

39:03

On. Yeah. I think this is a

39:05

very good group. Would add to it the heavy

39:08

lifting is being done by a blued said player.

39:10

One of the best defensive tackles and also ball

39:12

christians. To. Guess here the the

39:14

part, where can you. Tell. Him

39:16

on his to take their movies like yeah

39:18

it's the the point where they just put

39:20

a whole bunch. Of

39:23

the yourself know. Yeah.

39:27

I did. I learn to gloss over it. I was

39:29

going to let that one. Lady Letters: Every inside

39:31

or outside. This isn't like an Olive

39:34

Garden thing. says. Be tethered

39:36

aim is there. That is like the

39:38

best part of the meal Out leader

39:40

that know as good as your that

39:42

head was if others on sees I'm

39:44

just saying he's like he's like that

39:46

he just he'd given yet. He's.

39:48

Giving you that extra is go that extra mile.

39:50

He's the one that really do on a more

39:52

the work here. It's not just this is like.

39:56

it means that with the work of

39:58

the individual sprinkling of parmesan this

40:00

the actual parmesan sure

40:04

that italian food very bland without the

40:06

parmesan let me tell you yeah i

40:08

know that's it i can't say something

40:10

really quick sorry about this good i

40:15

i don't really like i

40:17

i actually i get putting the parmesan

40:19

on your salad more than i get

40:21

putting on your Italian rest on your

40:23

talent because i don't think the parmesan

40:25

enhances the extra fresh

40:27

shredded parmesan enhances most

40:31

like the meal that much like i don't think you

40:33

can tell very often maybe it's

40:35

just because like i'm doing like an alfredo most

40:37

of the time so that might be part of

40:39

it but i don't think the fresh what

40:41

do you think's in alfredo it's parmesan

40:43

i should i shouldn't say like

40:46

on a lasagna

40:49

on a lasagna i'm not noticing

40:51

as much i kid

40:54

i i'm sorry i maybe thought that

40:56

mattie was gonna get the mob hit put out

40:58

on him and it's you i'm sorry buddy i

41:04

love you kid i'm

41:08

glad you shared that with us i needed something for

41:10

a place judging the taste of

41:13

nuts with meal with his best with

41:15

chocolate and i think it's still part

41:17

of a shot out of context just

41:20

clip that tucker i i need

41:22

you to click this all

41:25

right well how do we

41:27

get this back to tracking down away from

41:29

parmesan cheese is overrated fresh

41:31

parmesan cheese is overrated let's leave the

41:34

job are out um so

41:36

let's go the Vincent tackle room

41:39

i also go casko is i

41:41

think it's very exceptional it's very good

41:44

that's a lot because of chris jones i

41:46

will say this it's like going there

41:48

and just ordering the meatball pasta marinara it's

41:50

good you know what's gonna be good yes

41:53

you get parmesan cheese on there because that's

41:55

the only way you get fresh chimes apparently

41:57

it's very good but like if you're gonna go

41:59

there that's not what I'm going for. It's not what I'm

42:01

springing for. I'm not springing for that level. And the reason

42:03

that I think the defensive tackle room is

42:05

just like a nice, good, but

42:08

basic dish that you are going to basically tell you

42:10

a dish that you can get anywhere that you, I

42:12

don't know if you can overly enhance anywhere is because

42:14

they have surrounded him with a bunch of one year,

42:16

just another guy, role players all

42:18

around him. They have given him not a running

42:20

mate. They haven't given him somebody they it's

42:23

Kessco is, but they take away like your bread and oil. You

42:25

don't get, you don't get the oil to dip

42:27

your bread into start. They took all that away

42:29

because they just signed a bunch of one year

42:31

deals, right? Like it's just, it's good. It's

42:33

very good. I don't want to take anything away from

42:35

the rule, but I don't think they put enough help

42:37

around there. So it's a lower in past. Go in his

42:39

meal is with this defensive talk room is because Chris

42:41

Jones is great. You got to start preserving

42:44

him. We got to get more years out of Chris Jones.

42:46

And that means he can't play 80% of the snaps. That

42:48

means he can't be the linchpin to every defensive

42:50

series to every third down. And no

42:52

offense. I love Mike Vannell and I like some of the

42:54

shots are taken on my guys, like Isaiah bugs and things

42:56

like that. But nobody else on this

42:59

roster, the defensive tackle position, like am I ever

43:01

going to be upset if they play zero snaps?

43:04

It's just never going to be upsetting if somebody

43:06

in that defensive talk room besides Chris Jones plays

43:08

zero snaps because nobody I think like has really

43:10

deserved a huge share of those of

43:12

the steps. Yeah. They, they

43:15

haven't, it earns the wrong word because

43:17

they clearly all these guys have earned

43:19

the, you know, snaps at the NFL

43:21

level here, but it's

43:23

not one of those things where you're

43:25

like, Oh, I prefer that guy over

43:28

that guy. It's a lot of personal

43:30

preference because the play isn't on the

43:32

field, much different from

43:34

DT two down to DT six

43:36

right now. Now that could change

43:38

in camp. It could change. We

43:40

could see this maybe elevate

43:42

beyond a Casconi's because you've

43:45

got an elite player in the room.

43:47

A guy that now for two years

43:49

in a row has played at an

43:51

all pro level, got paid at an

43:53

all pro level is probably going to

43:55

play at an all pro level again

43:57

this year. That is worth a loan.

44:00

We just gave one to the quarterback

44:02

there that is worth alone at least

44:04

at Casconi's because You that

44:06

room is going to live and die by Chris

44:08

Jones And I know that that's one

44:10

of those things that you look at and you're like man

44:12

I don't like the gamble on that I don't like the

44:14

gamble on that the reason you don't like the gamble on

44:16

that this year is because Chris is a little Bit older

44:19

Every single year that Chris has been

44:21

here. It's been like this. It's been

44:24

basically the interior defensive line It's

44:26

been him and

44:28

a bunch of guys that you could take

44:30

her leave Yes, they're not he's had some

44:32

peak years here. Mike vanell's has a really

44:34

good games Colin Saunders had a couple of

44:36

really good games as well. You've seen Turk

44:38

Wharton have some impact plays there But

44:40

it's not something that you're like, okay,

44:43

that's the guy next to Chris Jones That's the guy

44:46

that I feel comfortable spelling Chris Jones Snap

44:48

in snap out able to really line

44:50

up and affect the game Not

44:53

the way that Chris Jones is but even

44:55

at maybe even a league average level and

44:57

that's where my concern is That's why we

44:59

talked about defensive line so much

45:01

with this team during the draft Especially when

45:04

we got to you know The

45:06

the day three picks where all of a sudden

45:08

you're looking at the defensive line selections and you're

45:10

thinking There's a couple guys on here

45:12

that might actually break into DT to on this

45:14

team You could feel a little bit more comfortable

45:16

with some of them. They will pound in the

45:18

table a little bit for some of them I

45:21

like the guys that they picked I'm not

45:23

saying that they should have taken a defensive tackle

45:26

over somebody else But now we are in a

45:28

situation where the room is what it has been

45:31

Every single year for the past

45:33

spags ears here, you know every

45:35

single year It's been like this

45:38

and Chris Jones is getting older and you

45:40

don't want to burn them out early in

45:43

this brand new contract I

45:45

am looking for maybe another

45:47

free agent addition Maybe another guy that

45:49

they can add to the 90-man roster

45:52

just to try and push this group

45:54

a little bit here And

45:56

made the best one of these guys that they're just

45:58

taking Really? random wild shots

46:01

onto wind. That's what makes it.

46:04

Matty, real quick, sidebar.

46:08

If I called it Door

46:10

Dashed Cascades, is that

46:12

a good way of compa- like it's like

46:14

low tier Cascades where it's like it doesn't

46:16

just, it doesn't deliver as well. It's just

46:18

like it's, you know, it's a little bit,

46:21

it's a little warm. No. Like

46:23

it's better than my cheese analogy. I

46:27

can feel like, you know, more like it's the same thing I'm

46:29

going with, right? Like yeah, it's very good, but it could even

46:31

be better. It's in the lower end of the Cascades tier. I

46:33

agree with you 100%. I think Door Dashed

46:36

is a, is a much better and a much

46:38

more direct way to get to

46:40

it than saying Parmesan cheese is

46:42

overrated and doesn't enhance my Alfredo

46:44

dish. I

46:47

feel it. Yeah. Uh,

46:50

I don't even know, man. I don't

46:52

know. When I was looking for- sorry. I

46:55

was just saying Craig mentioned the point that, you

46:57

know, he wouldn't mind seeing somebody else added. What

46:59

kind of player would you think that

47:01

they would, what level of player needs to be

47:03

added for you to think that would either elevate

47:05

them to a Garrosos or if you're with Tint

47:07

and I to an upper tier Cascones. I

47:10

don't think it's ever going to get to a Garrosos because

47:12

I don't think you can't add a player that's going to

47:14

push it up to that tier. I just don't think so.

47:17

I'm honest with letting

47:20

this nose tackle group fight

47:22

it out. I don't need another nose tackle

47:25

unless he's a guy that's going to crush

47:27

the pocket a little bit more than some

47:29

of these other guys. I want another guy

47:31

to push Turk Wharton. Like I

47:33

love Turk coming off

47:35

of an injury. We've seen it kind

47:37

of dwindling over the past

47:39

couple of years. I

47:41

would like to see another guy for

47:44

Turk to have to beat out because right now he's the

47:46

only three tech that you trust behind Chris

47:48

Jones. Like the spot is his at this

47:51

point. Like you're not giving it to somebody

47:53

else. One of these other guys probably not

47:55

stepping in and beating Turk Wharton. So

47:57

I want another guy to at least have

47:59

Turk. win the job

48:01

outright win this backup three technique

48:04

job outright or push him

48:06

to the point where there's a tough decision to

48:08

be made there so it doesn't have to be

48:10

a starting level player not saying that Chris Jones

48:12

is there you want to play in

48:15

60% of the snaps ideally

48:17

not 90 so give

48:19

me another guy that I feel comfortable with those

48:21

40% of the snaps on the

48:23

field instead of Chris that can be

48:25

on the field more consistent the

48:27

way it's capable I

48:30

mean I would I would take a one-year stab

48:32

at it again it's that level of player if

48:34

turk warden beats him out cool you know yeah

48:36

good for Turk I'm trying to look through real

48:38

quick I was just looking through with some of

48:40

the freezians there's not there's not a lot of guys

48:42

out there with a little bit of pass rush like

48:44

juice at all there's a there's a handful of guys

48:46

that I think could come in and add to that

48:49

same one year rotational nose tackle spot

48:51

but I don't think they need more of those

48:53

guys I don't think there's anybody that's clearly an

48:55

improvement there so it's a matter of can you find somebody that

48:57

can offer you a little bit of juice instead of Turk

48:59

a better than Turk and Sheldon day

49:02

maybe but I don't think that he's kind of

49:04

hit a little bit of a flat line Kaleis

49:06

Campbell's older but he's the guy maybe you bring

49:08

in like a Ross Blacklock oh no he's a

49:11

restricted freezian so he doesn't even count I don't

49:13

see a lot of options yeah and

49:16

you know I I think Kirk warden

49:18

looked a little bit better as the season went on

49:20

like he looked he looked like he was

49:22

really struggling early in the year and I think he got

49:24

a little bit better as the season went on I think

49:26

the hope is probably that he makes

49:29

more progress farther removed from that injury

49:31

and if he gets closer to the

49:33

guy that we saw pre-injury then that'll

49:35

play a little bit like that guy

49:37

that guy will play a little bit

49:39

and and so like that's you know

49:41

probably one of the hopes and expectations for the

49:43

Chiefs is that Turk warden is gonna be a guy

49:46

that's gonna be able to step in and do a

49:48

little bit more than he did last year

49:50

which I remember that I would love that yeah

49:52

and it's not a bad bet I mean they

49:54

probably haven't they probably have a better good

49:56

a better pulse on you Know

49:59

where he's at, Then ably else

50:01

is going to. I mean they resign him back

50:03

for a reason. So. I. Think

50:05

that's hope right is that you know you can go

50:07

a bit more juice from turk work. As you read,

50:09

this room really does lack. Firepower.

50:12

Made. It's a lot of. Yell.

50:14

Run stuffer types and christians so

50:16

hopefully turret working kinda can step

50:18

that up aiding other defensive tackle

50:20

before we get outta humanity. The

50:22

else. bring did as roaches

50:24

that. Oh now than half

50:26

of the that again earth is is

50:28

either fun to his you for that's

50:30

what our vision for dirt. On

50:33

just scroll and others who are trying to find

50:35

anybody out there that like and like that's the

50:37

problem that like I don't think this is a

50:39

position the you can probably out at this point

50:41

maybe comes you first, something shake loose and you

50:43

can bring in a back to that position right?

50:45

Massive right now glazing through here unless you're going

50:47

to go after Clay's cable which he was five

50:49

last year he was a very five above were

50:51

last year. I'm. Sure, he's got plenty of

50:54

offers. that guy at thirty eight years old or whatever.

50:56

Is like f I'm gonna go ahead of wait until

50:58

t a big we get halfway through a t up

51:00

especially for a hot summer team a dozen or come

51:02

back so. I. Don't know they would ever

51:04

be in the market for that level player. So ladies

51:06

about. The june comes out. I agree with you

51:08

know that das that the iraqi because he didn't

51:11

their undrafted. Free agent. I'm Celia. Love it. He's.

51:13

Another dose tackle tight for teammate. he does.

51:15

Hit the ground running a they really like him

51:17

and he works in there or Isaiah Bugs who

51:19

I think is a sneaky player to like get

51:21

stored or level reps. On the seem still more

51:24

nose tackle less those guys are still more

51:26

run suffers. You. Don't really have

51:28

a good. Spell. Play regarded

51:30

company. Give christians a breather. In.

51:32

Several mini use back and fully healthy and

51:34

delicious Rotating your decent that aims inside which

51:37

is fine. On. Third downs I don't

51:39

know if you want to put those guys in there

51:41

on first down with or is it see it's of

51:43

a run that the you really what turkey their on

51:45

of redoubt either So. I. Think that they

51:47

should add competition there if they can. I just don't know.

51:49

What's going to be available? The Aussies goes on. Calais.

51:53

As the becoming get his ring. says.

51:57

At that you were gonna have upon i really the

51:59

ivory shows that. with some kind of belay-us

52:01

level pun. And then

52:03

he just parmesan cheesed it. Yeah,

52:06

I thought, I think everything I've said

52:08

has been too cheesy already today. That's going to do

52:10

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