We chat about how seminal band, The Specials, formed at the dawn of punk and life in Coventry at that time. Terry tells us what it takes to be a lead singer and how he's never happier than when he's at the garden centre - that's when he's not dreaming about Simon Le Bon on a big yacht. We also hear about his fondness for David Cassidy and the mystery of Walt Jabsco. The band have been getting together on zoom and despite missing their Glastonbury appearance this summer, there are new tour dates in the pipeline.  Finally, you wanna get a load of Terry crooning Moon River..what a legend.