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So imagine, Andrew, you're sitting in their house

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and you are in beautiful Naples,

0:26

Florida. Oh, okay. I've moved. And

0:28

all of a sudden you hear like crash, boom,

0:33

major sound effects. Well, we get

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sponsors. We go to buy sound effects. So I'm sitting in

0:37

the living room and I hear, so

0:40

I think the water's running out. Crash. I

0:43

forgot the crash. Boom. Is

0:45

it crash? What it was, was a two pound

0:47

cylinder from the international space station junk

0:49

trunk that came down

0:51

and went through this guy's roof. What are the

0:54

odds? I mean, you have better odds

0:56

of winning the lottery than you do if something

0:58

is falling from space and hitting your own house.

1:00

They say it was part of a three ton

1:02

pallet of old batteries for all of

1:04

the ISS. We just have a pallet

1:06

of batteries just floating around up there. Just like open

1:08

up the open up the bay door. Pal,

1:10

it's like, just throw that crap right out. We don't know.

1:13

We don't know anything more. I guess there's no space

1:15

dump and they got to do something with it. So

1:18

yeah, so it was launched back in

1:20

2021. Now there are

1:22

conspiracy theories. Sure. They're saying

1:24

that the Biden administration

1:27

ordered NASA to

1:29

drop this pallet

1:32

of batteries. It wasn't the

1:34

full pallet though. It was just a small. Yeah, but

1:36

something fell off. But the whole idea

1:39

is that conspiracy theorists actually say that the

1:41

Biden administration is behind this and

1:43

they missed Mar-a-Lago. Oh

1:45

God. Got

1:49

to love the internet. Everything. I know.

1:52

On that happy note. Welcome. I

1:54

am so excited. Why? Oh

1:56

my gosh. You're not going to believe who we

1:59

have on the show today. I won't believe

2:01

it. Uh, and he is I

2:03

mean, I'm gonna tell you something. I was on his podcast and I don't

2:05

get nervous Why were you you were

2:07

nervous? I was nervous because he's a

2:09

legend I mean he is you

2:11

did a home and away podcast you did

2:13

his he showed you yours or however that

2:16

works Well, but I was I was

2:18

so nervous on his podcast I never get nervous when

2:20

you went on his podcast. Did you talk about you?

2:22

What did you talk about on this podcast? I don't

2:24

know how great I am. Hmm. That's why you accepted

2:26

the invitation. Oh out Name's

2:28

Guy Kawasaki and has a brand new book

2:30

out called think remarkable. All right, I'll start

2:32

right now You

2:35

know what? You're gonna learn a whole bunch of things and I'll

2:37

tell you folks if you are listening or if you're watching this

2:39

podcast um You

2:41

are gonna learn so much from Guy Kawasaki Especially

2:44

like if you want to grow your business

2:46

start a new business the guy is amazing

2:48

truly I mean we go through his background

2:50

you're gonna be like, how did we get

2:52

him on our podcast? Can't wait

2:54

pretty exciting. What do you have we have

2:57

a sports betting? It's bigger than

2:59

ever online. Okay, and it's expanding to some

3:01

of the weirdest places so you can bet

3:03

on just about anything Yes, they're literally just

3:06

about anything. Okay. Now. This is part where

3:08

we say you have to like comment share

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Yes, yes all you have to do if

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you're watching the podcast It's

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simple because we you know, we put

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this live on the internet every single

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Monday Wednesday and Friday on YouTube rumble

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Facebook yes everywhere still on face. Yes. All

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right, all you have to do is like comment and

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share Sharing is like the

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number one thing that we really ask you to

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do because you like to show anyone that you

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like is gonna Like it as well. So just

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send them the link. It's a great podcast. It's

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just one person. Yeah That's a

3:39

send of a million people's Avon a couple

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of things administration went to get through as

3:43

well Aside from like comment share

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is that Friday? You don't want to miss

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the podcast and now if you're listening to

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the audio version Friday I want to make

3:51

sure that you look at the video version

3:54

because it's Japan day. Oh

3:56

your whole trip You wrap up from your trip to Japan

3:58

and a lot of people People have been asking like, you know,

4:01

where should I go? Is it worth visiting?

4:03

And I will tell you, Japan is unlike

4:05

any other country I've ever been. And I've

4:07

been to 31 countries. So...

4:10

You guys have some experience in the matter. I have. And

4:13

so Japan, you know, so after you go, you hit all of

4:15

Europe, you know, and you're like, okay, so where can we go

4:17

that's new? Mom, let's go to Japan. And

4:19

that's how it happened. It's like, I mean,

4:21

we're in the Bahamas and said, oh, let's go to Japan. So

4:23

that's where we're at. It's definitely on my list.

4:25

And then don't forget, we're giving away a $500 gift card. And

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so how do you enter to win? You

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go to that special address winfromkim.com. Once again,

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sign up for one newsletter. Take one newsletter

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and you're entered to win. That's it. And

4:40

you're joining a half a million people. So, you know, that's

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a lot of people. It is. Yes.

4:45

And I think about that when I'm writing this newsletter, I think about like, 500,000 people

4:50

are signed up to our newsletter. Well, I

4:52

mean, 500,000 people are watching right now, right?

4:55

Close. Okay. Pretty

4:57

close. All right. So that's what's

4:59

happening right now. We're going to start with Google. You know

5:01

about incognito mode? Yeah. Not

5:04

really incognito. What? No, I know. Big

5:07

shocker, as it turns out, is that incognito mode

5:09

doesn't really mean much because Google is

5:11

still tracking wherever you're going. So I

5:13

always thought incognito mode meant it just

5:15

wasn't saving on your personal computer in

5:17

the space that you were in at

5:19

that moment. No. So

5:22

the search, but the search history, the websites you go

5:24

to, they're not going to save in the address

5:27

bar. The Google search history is not going to save

5:29

in the Google search. But Google is tracking. Right. You're

5:32

incognito from your wife, not from

5:34

Google and the rest of the internet. Exactly. And

5:36

then Google said, well, you know, we have all

5:38

these records and we can't really delete

5:40

them. We're not. We're

5:42

sorry. So then there was a class action lawsuit and

5:45

then now guess what? Google is like, oh, I guess we

5:47

can delete. We found the delete button. It was right there

5:49

on the right side of the keyboard. So if you really

5:51

want to go incognito, what do you need? VPN?

5:54

Yes. Oh, my baby's

5:56

growing up. That's

5:58

so awesome. for a second

6:00

like I didn't know I wasn't Now

6:19

if you have a business this is

6:21

really important if you're using AI to

6:24

produce content or provide legal medical or

6:26

other advice guess what

6:28

what you are legally responsible for

6:30

everything that the AI does. Now

6:34

is the AI legally responsible as

6:36

well for giving you misinformation which

6:38

may cause you to have legal

6:41

action against you? No.

6:46

I'm not a lawyer and I don't give legal advice

6:49

and I don't play one on the internet right but

6:51

just be careful of anything that you put on

6:53

your website or else you could get sued and

6:56

then you're sitting there like holding the bag. Yeah we

6:58

saw that we saw the famous case of lawyers that

7:01

used former case law

7:03

to fight their case

7:05

in court and it was all made up by

7:07

AI and they were all both fired. Oh

7:10

you know I know this has nothing to do but with

7:12

anything we're talking about. Great let's take a

7:14

left-hand turn. We always do that here on

7:16

the pot. I just want to warn you

7:18

that if you do have your own website

7:20

and you get a letter that says you

7:23

have violated somebody's copyright and you

7:25

need to pay us

7:27

$5,000 because you know

7:29

you are using this photo and

7:31

we own that photo and now you need to

7:34

pay us. That's a big scam.

7:37

Really? Yeah so you have to be careful. So just

7:39

don't go like oh freaky Friday and they always make

7:41

it like 5,000 or less than

7:43

10,000 because if it's a big company most purchasing

7:45

agents don't need to have like prior approval. They

7:48

just push it on through. Exactly. So if you

7:50

get those letters you know just you know I

7:52

want to do your own research. Because it could

7:54

be possible it could be legitimate. Well yes we

7:57

had an issue where

7:59

some I would have used

8:01

a picture of a sign in

8:03

the Charlotte airport on

8:06

a video for six seconds.

8:08

Okay. And the video

8:10

was on YouTube for, I don't know, years, and

8:12

I think it got like, I don't know, 20,000

8:15

views. It was like this little

8:17

tiny video about like travel hacks, you know?

8:20

Anyway, so we got a letter and they wanted $75,000. That

8:23

wouldn't even be equivalent

8:25

to what you got back and what you made off of

8:27

the picture. I know. Did you win? I'm

8:30

not allowed to say because I had to

8:32

sign something. Oh, okay. But I'm not

8:34

allowed to say that I did anything. All

8:37

right, so the Cybertruck. Yeah.

8:39

You want one? Cool. I

8:41

mean, I want one. I think they're cool, but I wouldn't

8:43

drive one on a daily basis for free, yes, but I'm

8:45

not going to go out there and purchase it. Okay, so

8:47

when they were talking about the Cybertruck and

8:49

Elon Musk was like rolling out the Cybertruck saying,

8:51

it's coming soon. You're going to love

8:53

this. Give us your down payment. They

8:57

showed something called the tent. It was

8:59

called the Basecamp tent. So that

9:01

base was a high tech camper

9:03

shell. It looked really cool. Yeah. So

9:05

you could put this on your Cybertruck and

9:08

they showed like parents and kids out there

9:10

just like stargazing, having a great time. And

9:13

now people are getting their

9:16

$3,000 Basecamp tent and

9:18

they're not very happy. Why not?

9:21

Well, you have to see a picture

9:23

of it to fully appreciate it. All right.

9:26

That's what it's supposed to look like. Exactly. That's

9:29

what it's supposed to look like. That's really cool. Yes. I

9:32

mean, I would want that. Yeah. I don't even like

9:34

to camp and I would do that. I know you don't. That's not the

9:36

same. No. No,

9:38

that's what it was supposed to look like.

9:41

That's not the real product? Do we have a picture of what it

9:43

looks like? Yes, there it

9:45

is. Okay. It looks kind of

9:48

cheap. It looks like a whole

9:50

bunch of trash bags. It does. It

9:53

just looks like they took tent material. Now look at that. It

9:55

looks like a homeless encampment

9:58

right there. got two

10:00

stories. And how do you breathe

10:02

in that thing? You don't need to breathe. There's no

10:04

ventilation in there at all. Just kind of whole.

10:06

So they got ripped

10:08

off. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Elon

10:11

must make fun of you when you were a child. Why?

10:13

Why do you hate Tesla so much?

10:18

That's a really good question because I

10:20

don't own any Tesla stock. Intentionally? Yeah.

10:22

It's going in the crapper right

10:24

now. I think

10:28

because it's almost

10:30

to me that he's a carny. Okay.

10:32

That he goes out and he

10:35

sells people all this stuff. And

10:37

then when you really look at it, it's

10:40

not that great. And I feel like

10:42

my me buying a Tesla plaid, I

10:46

feel like I got ripped off. And you

10:48

know me for a long time. Yeah. Okay.

10:50

There's that line in the sand. Okay. If

10:52

you cross that line with me, it's

10:56

very difficult, if not impossible

10:58

for you to come back into my good

11:01

graces. No,

11:03

you didn't. I did. I got back in your

11:05

good graces. Well, yeah, but you know what? I

11:07

took a little bit of blame for that. Okay.

11:09

You're not going to blame Tesla. But you

11:12

don't think that the Tesla cars

11:14

are amazing technology? You don't think the fact

11:16

that he has normalized, and I'm not an

11:19

Elon Musk super fan here, but he's normalized

11:21

electric vehicles? No, he has done a great

11:23

job with that. But

11:25

I think he

11:28

oversells and under

11:30

promises. That would be the carny

11:32

side of him. Absolutely. He oversells everything. I get

11:34

that. And so I bought

11:36

into it. I did. I was

11:39

super excited about getting a Tesla Plaid.

11:41

I mean, amazing technology. I wouldn't

11:44

have to go to the gas

11:46

station. Yeah. So I get this

11:48

Tesla Plaid, and they just drop it off.

11:51

Okay. No bells and whistles. No. And

11:55

they basically say, read the manual online to figure

11:57

out how it works. Well, that's not good. The

12:01

door jams were not

12:03

exactly level. The manufacturing

12:06

and manufacturing defects. I

12:09

couldn't use Apple CarPlay with it. And you're a car

12:11

person. I know, I love cars. I mean, I've got

12:13

13 cars. I got a new, I

12:15

got a car coming in three weeks. I'm so excited.

12:17

The one that you're tracking, that you sent me the

12:19

picture that you're tracking? Yes, it's like, it's on its

12:21

way now. It's like from Germany all the way to

12:23

the Panama Canal. I'm like, it's like, I feel like

12:25

I'm giving birth. You know? That's

12:27

how much of a car person you are. You

12:31

smoke a cigarette after you get your new car. I

12:35

name my cars, you know? Really? Yeah.

12:38

Do you give them human names? Yes, like, you know,

12:40

like one is Lorenzo, another one's Greta, the

12:42

one from Germany is Albert. Albert?

12:45

You guys already gave him a name, Albert. But anyway. You don't

12:47

like the company. You don't believe in the company. You don't believe

12:49

in SpaceX. You don't believe in Twitter. No, no, no, I have

12:51

Starlink. I think that's, I think he did a great job with

12:54

Starlink. Okay. It's just the car side.

12:56

And also, you know, and he gets a lot of

12:58

money from the government. I mean, Starlink

13:00

has gotten, I don't know, 900 billion dollars or

13:02

something like that. And we've basically paid him

13:04

to come up with Tesla. But I think

13:06

he's genius. I

13:10

think he has incredible insight into many

13:12

things. Obviously, he's vocal.

13:15

Obviously, he's super intelligent. But

13:18

I just think with Tesla that,

13:22

it is, it's like a carney. I just feel like he's

13:24

not, he doesn't say everything

13:27

that's wrong with it. So he lost your trust. Yes,

13:30

of course, 100%. And that's why

13:32

I wouldn't buy another Tesla. Wouldn't

13:35

want a Tesla. The whole

13:37

full self-driving mode. I could have been,

13:39

I'm dead if I believed in it. I loved

13:41

it. I thought it was so cool. But I

13:43

saw an interesting TikTok video that basically said in

13:45

20 years, there's only gonna be

13:47

two car companies. It's Tesla and Toyota. And

13:50

I found that really interesting that this

13:52

guy was a market analyst that he

13:54

believed so much. But you don't think.

13:56

You don't think Tesla's gonna survive. No.

14:00

I think they'll survive. But

14:02

not be the king. I mean, you know,

14:04

Kia is surviving. Right. Then

14:06

I don't want no Kia. All

14:09

right, so a scammer. Oh, you know, I hate

14:12

this. What happened? Scammer calls

14:14

this woman up. And on her caller ID,

14:16

it says the Social Security Administration. That's

14:19

pretty smart of a scammer to get the caller ID

14:21

a little like that. And it says that somebody has

14:23

stolen her social security number and they're using it. And

14:27

in order for her to avoid prison time,

14:29

she has to buy gold. At

14:34

least they've moved away from Target gift cards. So

14:37

she goes out and buys $500,000 worth of gold. And

14:42

then mails it to them? No, the scammers show up. Oh,

14:45

wow. Pick it up from

14:47

the Social Security Administration. No, this

14:50

is not how business operates in

14:52

America. Yeah, we don't need to do this. No.

14:55

Warren, the older adults in your family, that the

14:57

Social Security Administration is not going to say you're

14:59

going to prison and ask for gold in return.

15:01

Right. How does

15:04

that even happen? The scammers are sitting around going, OK, so I

15:06

got an idea. Here's one

15:08

we haven't done. They're on to us about the Google

15:10

Play gift cards. What can we move to? Ah, precious

15:12

metals. And we don't

15:14

want silver. They've been saying silver is going to go through the

15:16

roof for 20 years. It's still

15:18

not good stuff. Have you

15:21

ever been scammed, either through a phone

15:23

scam or an email scam, any kind of scam?

15:25

Have you ever been scammed? Just drop a comment

15:27

there at the end of the show. We're going

15:30

to find the best ones and read them during

15:32

the broadcast. The broadcast.

15:36

Harry Potter fan, yes or no? No. I've literally

15:39

seen eight minutes of Harry Potter, and I slept through an

15:41

hour and a half of the rest. OK, I'm not either.

15:43

I don't get it. I don't understand it.

15:45

I don't know why people are obsessed with it. If you love

15:47

it, you love it. That's your thing. I tried it. Yeah,

15:49

I tried it too. I mean, I'm like, Ian, you're

15:51

going to love this. We both looked at each other

15:54

after six minutes because we both have ADD. And now,

15:56

I don't think so. I spent the whole movie going,

15:58

who's that now? Who's the

16:00

Weasley? So they have an invisibility

16:02

cloak. Yeah, I'm aware of it. Okay,

16:04

and so guess what? What? Now

16:07

there really is truly an invisibility shield.

16:10

It measures six feet tall, four feet wide.

16:12

It's constructed from, I have to

16:15

read this because I don't know anything about manufacturing,

16:17

precision engineered lens array, light reflected from

16:19

the person standing behind the shield is directed

16:22

away from the person in front of it.

16:26

You could memorize all that? Okay, come on! I

16:28

don't even know what any of that means. I listened to you. I didn't comprehend

16:30

you, but I listened to you. Let's look at the invisibility. Have you ever dreamed

16:32

of having a superpower? We have. Isn't

16:35

that cool? But I can tell they're standing behind something. When

16:37

does an invisibility shield? It's no way. I'm

16:39

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not

16:41

sure. I'm not sure. I'm not

16:43

sure. I'm not sure. I'm

16:45

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

16:48

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not

16:50

sure. I'm not sure. I'm not

16:52

sure. I

16:55

could just put up a piece of cardboard. It would have

16:57

the same effect. Exactly. And it'd be

16:59

a lot cheaper. It's power. I

17:02

saw her walk behind it. She's

17:05

not invisible at all. Okay, but

17:07

it is when you put that thing there. Full size. No,

17:09

I see him. And the

17:12

mega shield. It's the mega shield. The mega

17:14

shield. What should we call it? It's

17:16

over six feet tall. Let's call it

17:18

the mega shield. Nice attempt, but

17:20

I could see the person walking behind it.

17:24

They were invisible. They were not. I saw

17:26

them. They were just a little blurry. Okay, look,

17:28

do you see me? No. You're

17:31

not invisible though. They should call it

17:33

the blurry shield because they were just a little bit blurry.

17:36

Okay, I want you to really straighten up now.

17:38

What do you mean? I want you to like,

17:40

can you see that straight? Yes.

17:43

Can you put on your thinking cap? Sure. You

17:45

need to be smart. Uh-oh. Okay, because we

17:47

have a brilliant man joining. Should I just be silent

17:49

the whole time? That probably would be

17:51

best. I don't think it's my one, Mom. Yeah. Just

17:55

think, you know what you can say. It's

17:57

like the rule of broadcast. You don't know what

17:59

can fit. Don't say anything at all. No, you just

18:01

say, that's interesting. I can do

18:03

a lot of this. Cool. Let's

18:08

take that to bed. All

18:16

right, it's ChemCommando today. It's your fun podcast

18:18

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forget, we also have our Daily Tech Update and our

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Digital Life Act that you can get that as a

18:31

podcast. You can also hear that on your local radio

18:34

station too, which is super excited still that we're on

18:36

WABC in New York. That was like a huge

18:38

thing. A lot of people don't realize that. Is New York City

18:40

a big deal? Is it a big media market? I

18:43

think it's number one. Oh, can't get any bigger

18:45

than that. I know, and I can't

18:47

wait until I meet somebody who listens in the

18:49

Hamptons. Oh, ChemDollock,

18:51

I heard you in the Hamptons. We

18:55

were vacationing with the Rothafans, and we

18:57

heard your digital tip. It's quite possibly

18:59

brilliant. Is that what they're going to

19:01

sound like? Oh, sure. I hope so.

19:05

Sure, I hope so. You know, maybe that

19:07

should be my ringtone. How come we pretend

19:09

to be smart people? We're British. Why

19:11

do you think we go there? Okay,

19:14

we'll say it now in the southern accent.

19:16

Yeah, no. No, I get

19:18

criticized for doing that last time. Hey,

19:20

Chem, I saw your digital minute. Them

19:22

computers are so hard to work with,

19:24

but you're teaching me upright. See,

19:27

it doesn't sound as good. That's

19:29

awful. We're going to get such hate mail from that. All

19:32

right, so let me tell you about our

19:34

guest, Guy Kawasaki. He

19:37

has a book, a new book out, called Think Remarkable.

19:40

We've been talking about that. He

19:42

has a podcast called Remarkable People, but he worked at

19:44

Apple in the 1980s. There's

19:48

a title in the tech industry

19:50

now, Andrew, called Evangelist. Okay. Guy

19:54

is the person who invented them. Do you

19:56

remember, I don't know if you are old enough to

19:58

remember, when if you had a man, Mac. And

20:01

it was like Mac versus Windows. I've

20:03

never had a Mac in

20:06

my entire life. Do you remember when

20:08

it was like PC versus Apple? The

20:10

commercials, all those Macs. But also, no,

20:12

as a culture, is

20:15

that if you had a Windows-based machine, you'd

20:17

be like, I am so

20:19

superior to you people on an

20:21

Apple. And then the Apple would be like, we

20:24

are so superior to you.

20:28

I mean, I remember the Apple people thinking that

20:30

they were better. Of course. That

20:32

their floppy disks don't stink. Yes. And

20:34

I mean, I remember when I switched to going

20:36

from all Windows to Apple, people were like, I

20:38

got like hate mail that I sold

20:41

out that Apple was an advertiser. And

20:43

I'm like, I wish they were an

20:45

advertiser. Okay. If you know anybody in

20:47

Cupertino, send them my way. They got

20:50

deposits. So he's now the chief evangelist

20:52

at Canva. Love Canva. Yes.

20:55

Amazing. He's got a neck for

20:57

entrepreneurship, innovation. He's built just

20:59

a ton of successful tech startups. And

21:02

Guy is here joining us right now.

21:07

Hi, Guy. How are you? I've

21:10

been listening since the start of your

21:12

show. Oh, my God. Now I know

21:14

that whenever you ask me questions, I'm

21:16

saying, that's interesting. Oh,

21:18

no. When

21:20

you respond to something, it's going to be bad if we both

21:23

say. Yes. It's so

21:25

interesting. Not much of a conversation. No. That was

21:27

bad. It's

21:30

really interesting that you never

21:32

have used a Macintosh. Never.

21:35

She asked me one time to pull something

21:37

up on her computer, and I didn't even

21:39

know where to start. I had no idea.

21:41

Yeah. He's looking for like the start menu.

21:43

Yeah. I was clueless. I've never touched a

21:45

Mac. But you have an iPhone. Yeah.

21:47

Well, iPhones are great. So

21:51

bring us back into your Mac days.

21:53

What was that like working with Steve

21:55

Jobs? It

21:58

was an amazing time. And, you know, all All

22:00

the movies, all the books, everything you've

22:02

ever heard, seen, read, they're all true.

22:05

He was a very difficult person to work for. I

22:09

was afraid that he would humiliate me

22:11

in public. Contrary

22:13

to every theory of HR where

22:16

you meet with your employees,

22:18

you develop mutually acceptable

22:21

goals and you focus on the positive.

22:23

All the positivity and all that. He

22:26

did none of that. He just scared the crap out of

22:28

me. I did some of

22:31

my best work being scared. Contrary to

22:33

every theory you have about positivity,

22:36

sometimes fear

22:38

works. There was no positive

22:40

sandwich word like Steve Jobs would say. You know what,

22:42

guy? I'm so happy that you're here and

22:44

you're bringing your talents to Apple. It's

22:48

just amazing what you do every single

22:51

day. What you did right

22:53

here just totally sucks, but

22:55

I have the confidence that you have

22:57

the skill and the wherewithal and the

23:00

motivation to bring us to the next level.

23:03

Right after that, this palette of lead

23:05

fell from space and hit the guy

23:07

in the head. I'll

23:10

tell you a true story. The

23:12

reason I got my job in the Macintosh

23:14

division was nepotism. My college

23:16

classmate and friend hired me. I

23:18

didn't have the right background in

23:20

work or academics. After

23:23

I interview with Steve, my friend goes

23:25

to Steve and says, what did

23:27

you think of God and why? Steve

23:29

says to him, well, I guess he's okay,

23:31

but if he screws up, I'm

23:33

going to fire you too. That

23:36

was my ringing endorsement. That

23:38

was my onboarding at Apple. I'm going

23:40

to fire your friend if you screw

23:43

up too. You

23:47

write in a book about

23:49

Apple's Think Different campaign. Yes.

23:52

Tell us that story. Okay.

23:55

This is a very expensive story, so

23:57

I hope you appreciate it. So

24:00

in 1997, Apple had

24:02

the Think Different advertising campaign. This

24:04

is the one featured Albert Einstein

24:07

and let's see, Amelia Earhart,

24:09

Richard Branson, Nelson Mandela, Einstein.

24:11

And the thinking was, you

24:13

know, and it's still true,

24:15

apparently with your guests, that

24:18

if you use a Macintosh, you

24:20

have to think different, like these

24:22

innovators and visionaries, because back then

24:24

everybody was going to be using

24:26

Windows. So if you thought different,

24:28

like Einstein and Picasso and, and

24:30

Richard Branson, then you thought different and you

24:33

use a Macintosh. So anyway,

24:35

Lee Clow from Shiethe introduces these video

24:38

ads to the marketing team. And at

24:40

the end, he says to Steve, I

24:42

have two copies of the videotape. I'll

24:45

give one to you and I'll give

24:47

one to Guy. And Steve says, don't

24:49

give one to Guy. And

24:52

so I said, what's the matter, Steve? Don't

24:54

you trust me? And Steve says, Guy,

24:56

yes, I do not trust you. So now

24:59

this is one of those man or mouse moments

25:01

in your life, right? This is one of those

25:03

moments when you look back and you say, why

25:06

was I such a chicken? Why did I

25:08

not stand up to him? And

25:10

I was not going to let that happen to

25:12

me. So as soon as he said, yeah, Guy,

25:14

I don't trust you. I said, yes, Steve, it's

25:17

okay. I don't trust you either. Well,

25:19

I figured that cost me about a hundred

25:22

million in stock options. But now I get

25:24

to tell that story on Kim Kommando. I

25:26

mean, that's worth it. Well,

25:29

you know, we do have

25:31

all those moments. I mean,

25:33

where you sit there and you're like, do

25:36

I really say what I feel

25:38

or do I just kind

25:40

of suck it up buttercup? Right? When

25:43

it comes to your new book, what is

25:45

the theme? How do we be remarkable? Okay.

25:48

So this is

25:50

the history. So I have this

25:52

podcast called Remarkable People in which

25:54

I interview remarkable people like Kim

25:56

Kommando. Thank you. I appreciate that.

26:00

Wozniak and Margaret Atwood and Angela

26:02

Duckworth and Carol Dweck and Steve

26:04

Wolfram. I just dropped every name

26:07

I can remember. And

26:09

so over the course of five years, we now

26:11

have 200 something episodes, which is

26:14

200 something hours, and we have 5,000 pages of

26:16

transcripts. So

26:18

we looked at that and we said, you know, no

26:20

one's going to listen to all that. No one's going

26:22

to read all that. So let's, let's take it down

26:25

and put it into a book. And so this is

26:27

designed for Gen Z. It's only 170 pages

26:30

long, but it reflects the wisdom of about 200

26:32

people. And

26:34

the thesis is

26:36

if you want to be considered

26:38

remarkable, you need to make a

26:40

difference, you need to make the

26:43

world a better place. And

26:45

if you make the world a better place,

26:48

people have no choice, but this thing you

26:50

are remarkable. So the key to being remarkable

26:52

is to make a difference. And this book

26:54

explains how to make a difference. And

26:57

one of the results will be people will

26:59

think you're remarkable. And now

27:02

you say there are three stages. Yes.

27:05

So number one is growth,

27:07

right? Yes. Number

27:10

two is grit and number three is

27:12

great. So this,

27:14

this comes from an observation after you interview

27:16

these 250 people, you

27:18

figure out, you know what, they all

27:21

had a growth mindset. This is Carol

27:23

Dweck's work. So they didn't have a

27:25

fixed mindset. They didn't believe that they

27:27

were perfect. They also didn't believe

27:29

that if they were not perfect,

27:31

that they couldn't achieve growth

27:34

and grit and grace. So

27:37

it takes a mindset that you believe you can

27:39

learn new skills. I mean, I took up ice

27:41

hockey at 44. I took

27:43

up surfing at 60, you know, Carol

27:45

Dweck was huge influences in that. So

27:47

now, even if you have

27:50

this growth mindset, which is crucial, you

27:52

also have a grit mindset because

27:54

when you're growing and you're trying

27:56

new things, it's highly unlikely

27:59

that. when you start something

28:01

completely new you're gonna be good at

28:03

it so you have to persevere so

28:05

that's great. Add the

28:07

third phase i noticed after interviewing a

28:09

lot of remarkable people is at

28:12

some point in their career. They

28:14

have a mindset shift and now

28:16

they wanna help other people younger

28:19

people disenfranchised people they wanna help

28:21

other people be successful too because

28:24

they've now figured out that life is

28:26

not a zero some game and, no

28:29

another person's game is not your loss

28:31

and your game is not their loss

28:34

the rising tide can float all balls.

28:37

Add up your discussing earlier

28:39

your best friend Elon Musk and

28:41

i think that. Give

28:43

him fair you know do i like

28:46

three or four years ago i would

28:48

have said he's the closest thing there

28:50

is to steve jobs and, arguably you

28:53

could say he did more than steve

28:55

jobs could steve just did devices right

28:57

but right elon is the satellites and

29:00

cars and tunnels and chips in your

29:02

head and all the throwers yeah i'm

29:04

playing throwers right and surfboards. What

29:07

if you think about it you know

29:09

he single handedly made the car business

29:11

become electric. Add so

29:13

he would have gone i think gone

29:15

down as maybe history's greatest innovator but

29:17

he did not make the third step

29:19

yet which is easy it

29:22

hit me of the

29:24

lack of grace there's no

29:26

grace or graciousness in that man. Add

29:29

i think until he does that and

29:31

achieve that he will not be as

29:33

remarkable as he could be. You

29:35

know that's a really that's

29:38

a really interesting observation. What

29:41

is good why you don't like him and

29:43

why you're not on board the technology was

29:45

there the thoughts were there but in the

29:47

end is very divisive yes wait wait wait

29:49

wait him just said that's really interesting does

29:52

that mean she doesn't have anything to know

29:54

no no no no you know what i

29:56

was thinking behind the scenes in my head

29:58

guy is that the next time. that

30:00

somebody asked me about Elon Musk and I

30:02

get asked about him a lot is

30:06

I'm going to refer to you.

30:08

That's what was going on in my head. I thought

30:10

you know what, this is so smart because

30:13

it really kind

30:16

of boils Elon Musk down. I

30:18

mean because let me tell you,

30:20

I'm a fan of Starlink. I've

30:22

got Starlink in homes

30:24

and on

30:26

a boat and I mean it

30:29

just works. It does. If

30:31

somebody calls me up and it's you know and

30:33

they're asking me for internet access and they're tired of their

30:35

cable company, they want to take it on the go or

30:38

whatever. Okay think about everything

30:40

that he's doing internationally with

30:43

Starlink. You know his

30:45

plans and it really is revolutionizing

30:49

and equalizing internet access to

30:51

people who can't get

30:53

internet access. You're right. You're right.

30:56

And so he is remarkable

30:58

and that's but as

31:01

far as going back to that grace, being

31:03

able to have

31:05

that and we're not going

31:07

to talk about Twitter. There's no grace

31:09

on Twitter. Or whatever you want to call

31:12

it. Hey

31:19

it's Kim Commando today. If you're just joining

31:21

us, we are in a great conversation with

31:24

Guy Kawasaki. Oh my gosh. Guy,

31:26

it's wonderful to have you here. So

31:28

when you talk about the grit, the

31:31

growth and the grace, what

31:33

are some standouts like for example with

31:36

the grit? Oh

31:38

with well the mother of grit is Angela

31:41

Duckworth right? But I'll

31:43

tell you a great example of grit

31:45

which is there's a woman

31:48

in the book called Andrea Lytle Peat

31:50

and she was diagnosed with ALS nine

31:52

years ago. Now for those of you

31:54

not familiar with that disease, typically it's

31:57

lethal after two or three years. So she's

31:59

She's lived about 10 years and when

32:02

she got diagnosed, she decided that in

32:05

order to raise awareness and

32:07

money of ALS, she would

32:09

complete 50 marathons in 50

32:12

states. Wow. Now,

32:14

I mean, that's

32:16

what you call grit, right? And

32:19

she has done that and I think that

32:21

is a great example of grit. And

32:24

now there are lots of people in this

32:26

world who are remarkable that we never

32:28

heard of. If there

32:30

is a single profession that

32:33

has remarkable people, I would

32:35

say it's teachers. Like

32:38

teachers are just the most important

32:40

resource we have because they are

32:42

training the most important resource we

32:44

have. And that's pure

32:47

grit. I mean, my hats

32:49

off to teachers. I feature a few in the

32:51

book and I love teachers.

32:53

Teachers change my life and

32:56

who among us who's been successful cannot look

32:58

back and say, well, that teacher in sixth

33:00

grade, she's the one who turned it around for

33:03

me. I mean, teachers are remarkable people. So I'll

33:05

leave you... Well, they're definitely not doing it for

33:07

the money. No, they're not. No,

33:11

they're not. And you know, I mean, I

33:13

could tell you something. I've had teachers on

33:16

my podcast, but I have had no hedge

33:18

fund managers. Let me put

33:20

it that way. Now

33:23

you also talked about

33:26

Jane Goodhall and

33:28

she just turned 90. I think today she's

33:30

turning 90. Yes, that's right. Her

33:34

how she got started is super interesting. Yes.

33:38

This is another great lesson in being

33:40

remarkable. So you know,

33:43

when Jane Goodall comes from a

33:45

relatively, you

33:47

know, not rich family. So she didn't

33:49

go to university and have the whole

33:51

like Oxford kind of education. So

33:54

believe it or not, her schooling

33:56

was in secretarial skills and

33:58

she wound up in Africa. With a

34:00

leaky foundation and lucky for her.

34:03

The. Secretary of the Leaky Foundation left,

34:05

so there was a position available

34:07

for a secretary. So Jane Goodall

34:10

suck that up and was a

34:12

secretary full. A Leaky Foundation. And

34:14

from there she became you know, the

34:16

Jane Goodall. We know what the experts

34:19

and chimp bins, the social life of

34:21

chimps and tools. And

34:23

so that that's a valuable lesson and I

34:25

I, I take it said. Oh,

34:27

you get a job is not as

34:30

important as what you do. once you

34:32

get the job. So. You should

34:34

not be proud. I mean if if

34:36

you start. As a secretary

34:38

or a janitor, or zero an

34:41

intern. So. What I mean:

34:43

You don't have to be a Harvard

34:45

M B A to be successful. Adam

34:47

of I have any Harvard M B

34:49

A podcast so I'm. Which. Is

34:51

interesting, no pun intended. But anyway,

34:54

so of. She's. A great

34:56

story and is. If there was

34:58

a person who embodies grace, it

35:00

is Jane Goodall. She's ninety years

35:02

old. Ninety years old. She travels

35:05

three hundred days a year. Wow,

35:07

it's and Kim if you think

35:09

about it. It. All on about

35:11

you but you probably you is true for

35:13

you to. So when you and I travel

35:15

we have to be on deck for about

35:17

one hour and make one great speech right?

35:20

and the rest of the time were in

35:22

our spar getting a man he tell. You

35:26

know, eating ramen and all that. But

35:28

Jane Goodall. From the time she wakes

35:30

up till she goes to sleep, she's

35:32

fundraising, she's meeting with school, she's reading

35:35

with teachers. Is it A? She's meeting

35:37

with biologists and all that. It's not

35:39

like she only. Has to be on

35:41

for one hour. And.

35:44

Ninety years old. Three hundred days a

35:46

year, and she's traveling you nine or

35:48

on all sides of do three hundred

35:51

days you're traveling. Know. Where I know. I

35:53

mean she must be like. She's like

35:55

a global servers of global services on

35:57

name. Oh my God is. I

36:00

need a Japanese cross talent. I'm telling you, she's

36:02

not catching a private plane, right? She's

36:05

not doing a Taylor Swift because if

36:08

people found out that Jane Goodall was taking

36:10

a private plane and contributing all that carbon

36:12

dioxide, I mean, it would not be a

36:14

good thing. So I don't know if she's

36:17

in Southwest Airlines eating peanuts, but she ain't

36:19

on a private, she's not on a Gulf

36:21

Stream, that's for sure. Well,

36:24

it is

36:26

remarkable that you were able to pull all these

36:29

stories together. And you mentioned Gen Z, and

36:31

I have a Gen Z-er, my

36:33

son, and I actually gave

36:35

him your book. Yeah, and

36:38

what do you say? Oh yeah, like

36:40

this is like another think and grow rich, mom. Oh

36:42

my, no, it's not. It

36:44

is not, it is not think and grow

36:46

rich. Although, listen, I don't mind if my

36:49

book has the longevity of think and grow

36:51

rich, hallelujah, hallelujah,

36:53

but it's not about

36:55

growing rich, it's about making a difference. And

36:58

it is, and your success is also seen throughout

37:04

the book too. And you don't

37:07

stop, I mean, you talked about Jane Goodall, how

37:10

many things do you have going on right now? I

37:13

am Chief Evangelist of Canva,

37:15

Remarkable People Podcast, and I'm

37:17

a writer, I

37:19

give speeches, and I serve,

37:23

not necessarily in that order, I also

37:25

have four kids. And

37:28

you're surfing in cold water? Yes,

37:30

I am, that's true. In fact, I'm

37:32

going surfing right after this. By

37:36

the way, you're surfing, what car's

37:39

coming in three weeks? Mr.

37:43

Albert, it's a 911 Turbo S. Holy

37:50

cow! Yeah, and it's

37:53

paint a sample, and the color is Albert

37:55

blue. And

37:57

they're all, it's kind of. like

38:00

a royal blue and there's only

38:02

five of these cars in the

38:04

United States. Oh wow. And

38:07

so mine will be number five and

38:10

I'm really excited about it. How long have you been waiting for

38:12

it? I've been waiting on this car for like two and a

38:14

half years. Wow. Yeah.

38:18

You know what? I heard that the

38:20

cars from the Porsche ships over to

38:23

United States, they docked them in Baltimore.

38:25

So you might kind of get to

38:27

it. Thanks,

38:30

Guy. I appreciate that. I

38:32

mean, what's the odds of the bridge

38:34

falling down on your turbo? Oh my

38:36

God. That's like maybe a gallon of

38:38

lead falling from the space onto the

38:40

ship that has your Oh

38:42

my God. You know what? The

38:45

luck I've been having lately. I better knock

38:47

on all this wood someplace. Do we have real

38:49

wood? There's nothing

38:51

here. Again, it's

38:54

called Think Remarkable. It's available everywhere, right?

38:57

How much is the book? It's everywhere. And

38:59

listen, Kim, you know what? I

39:01

believe Kim, you have the

39:03

power to make a book successful single handedly.

39:05

So you tell your 500,000 subscribers to read

39:08

my book, okay? Well,

39:12

we are writing a story about the book. We

39:14

are. Oh, you're the best.

39:16

No, for real. And Ali

39:18

and I were talking about that yesterday. I said, you

39:20

know, we should write a story

39:22

about the book and then link to the book because

39:25

we can use our Amazon affiliate ID. We're going to just

39:27

make a ton of money. No. Oh

39:29

my God. I'm teasing you. I'm

39:32

teasing you. Listen to all that grace. Aloha. Aloha.

39:35

You know, have you heard the term ikigai?

39:41

It's a Japanese term and it means

39:44

like, it's the Japanese word

39:46

for when you find your true calling

39:48

in life, your passion, it's your ikigai.

39:50

It's the reason you get up every

39:52

day. It's I-K-I-G-A-I,

39:54

ikigai. Remember that

39:57

word. So here's

39:59

the plan. game. You

40:01

go and you tell your 500,000 subscribers

40:03

and all the listeners to buy

40:06

this book because it's going to help

40:08

them make remarkable, be remarkable, make the

40:10

world a better place. You use your

40:12

Amazon affiliate and with all the money

40:14

you make your affiliate, you pay for

40:16

that turbo. Then I want you to

40:18

put custom plates on that turbo that

40:20

says, IKIGAI, IKIGAI, G-U-Y. You

40:22

know what? I just might do that.

40:24

I think I might just, when I register the

40:26

car, I just might do that because I do have

40:28

custom plates. Okay. IKIGAI.

40:33

On the SLS,

40:35

which is the Goldwing, the

40:38

plate is Wingman. Oh,

40:40

that's good. Okay. On the Ferrari.

40:45

We're just going

40:47

to geek out a little. Okay. So I'll tell

40:49

you that I

40:51

had on my car LA 911 ST.

40:57

That was my license plate. And

40:59

it was because I wanted to put something about

41:01

a 911 on the plate,

41:04

but I wanted it so that no one

41:06

could figure it out. And so LA 911

41:09

ST stands for last 911 because

41:11

I'm 69 years old and

41:13

I figured out that that's probably my last

41:15

911 before I die. But

41:19

then I just sold that car. I see.

41:21

I see. I think customs like on on

41:23

the Ferrari, the custom

41:26

plate is N-O-N-E-T-3-O. No

41:32

net 30? No net 30.

41:34

You know what that is, Andrew? Debt?

41:38

Cash. Oh, no cash. No, no.

41:41

You've got to see me right off, right up

41:43

front. Yes. Yeah. You need to pay up

41:45

front. Okay. We don't, we don't have terms here.

41:48

So I did, I just did get

41:50

recently got back from Japan. And

41:53

so it would be appropriate for me

41:55

to have Ikigai. I think so.

41:57

I think so. And then That

42:00

would you got to take a picture

42:02

with that license? There's

42:05

a good story. You know, I would love that.

42:07

I would love that. I'm gonna do that I'm

42:09

gonna do that. All right So so we're going

42:11

to write about your book and everybody who's watching

42:13

the podcast We're gonna link to the book and

42:15

the podcast description as well guy and

42:18

And thanks for being here. Oh,

42:21

you're awesome in a pleasure Now

42:24

I have one more goal in my life is

42:26

which is to get both of

42:28

you to use Mac and Tasha's I just Guess

42:33

I could start I don't

42:35

know Available on

42:37

a Mac. Oh my gosh,

42:39

really? Man

42:43

you you can take the evangelists out of

42:45

Apple, but you can't take the Apple out

42:47

of the evangelists We'll

42:49

get them on a Mac someday. I'll do well. I'll try

42:52

it. Hey guy. Thanks for being here. Go catch some waves

42:54

for us Okay, thank

42:56

you so much and listen like if you're

42:58

listening don't get too turned off about our

43:00

discussion of Portia's and Ferrari We're

43:03

not that kind of people we know We

43:05

want you to make a difference and be remarkable.

43:07

That's the goal That is that is the goal

43:09

and you know, and to you know to pay

43:11

it forward and to give back Yeah,

43:14

amen. Amen. Whatever way that that you can

43:16

do that because it I you know, I

43:18

try to do that I mean we do

43:20

a random acts of kindness

43:23

on the show We're actually we're gonna I already have

43:25

one lined up that we're gonna do and you know, well

43:27

we random act Well, we

43:29

don't want Elon Musk to be on some

43:31

podcast and say, you know guy

43:34

and Kim They were growth and grit,

43:36

but he just didn't make the transition

43:38

to grace Now

43:42

that'd be awful Awful

43:46

Terrible. All right. Take care

43:48

everybody. Thanks guy. He

43:50

busted you You

43:53

just said that's interesting Totally

43:55

what a great conversation. I have to listen to

43:57

this podcast. I can listen to this guy talk

44:00

forever. I told you he was just

44:02

phenomenal. Phenomenal. All right still to come

44:04

here on Kim Commando today we are

44:06

gonna talk about circuses.

44:08

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Day. Yes. Friday is Japan Day. We're gonna

45:29

go all through the trip and show a

45:31

whole bunch of videos. Scott says,

45:33

I wonder what Adam is keeping from his

45:35

current girlfriend. Adam is not... I don't know

45:37

who Adam is. In incognito mode. Oh yeah.

45:39

Well of course. All the bad stuff. Adam,

45:44

you sounded just like my father's brother's cousin,

45:46

former roommate in college. Well

45:49

thank you. Ron says maybe

45:51

I should get a Miata. Yeah,

45:53

get a Miata. Rita

45:55

Vatter says great guest. Wow. You know, really,

45:58

really fabulous. Scams

46:00

people were said that they get scam about mutual

46:02

funds investments We'll talk to her about those because

46:04

we are just running so late on the podcast

46:06

I'm gonna hold that interview guy got away from

46:08

us. It sure did. That's a problem. You're in

46:11

such a great convo It's not a problem though.

46:13

It turned out to be a great conversation. It

46:15

doesn't matter if it goes long or not We

46:17

can cut other stuff. Have you ever been to

46:19

the circus? Yes, I've been to Ringley Brothers and

46:21

Bartum Bailey's circus Okay, well, you know they got

46:23

in a lot of trouble Well, I was there

46:25

when they actually still had animals at the circus

46:27

So elephants and tigers and a bear riding a

46:30

bicycle. I mean the classic circus stuff Yeah,

46:32

well they got in trouble because of all

46:34

the yeah and cruelty and they got rid

46:36

of all the animals But now they say

46:38

this is going to bring them

46:41

in what? Y'all I saw

46:43

the Ringling show in Tampa this weekend and

46:45

they had a robot dog named

46:47

Bailey and I was freaking out This

46:51

was the perfect addition to

46:53

the show. She was so cute

46:55

and it made my day Better

46:59

she was the star of the show. That

47:01

is adorable. So what do you think? Is it

47:03

the same robot dog that people are terrified about?

47:06

Yeah, but they came in like a whole yeah You

47:08

just put some googly eyes on it and some pink hair

47:10

is not scary anymore Is

47:12

that fun? No. No,

47:15

I mean, it's cool It's fine for

47:17

a couple of seconds where you go. Yeah,

47:19

that's neat. But the circus. I

47:21

mean I do I'm feeling traditional I miss

47:23

the old circus. I like the

47:25

traspies. Yeah. Well, that's

47:27

daring. There's danger involved there This is

47:30

just a robot. Okay dog walking around

47:32

Cirque du Soleil. Yes, phenomenal breathtaking. I

47:34

go to the Christmas show every single year Absolutely

47:37

breathtaking. Is it like Santa on the trapeze?

47:39

No, it's not really Christmasy, you know They

47:41

take some Christmas songs and there's sparkles in

47:43

the background, but otherwise they're just doing there's

47:45

Christmas It'd be funny if they had like

47:48

like Rudolph on one hahaha Donner

47:51

and Blitzen catching each other midair That

47:54

would be fun and the Grinch. So

47:57

this is not gonna sell you a ticket for the circus for

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