0:08

What's up Andor welcome back to the

0:10

kind of funny Screencast. Of course, I'm Tim

0:12

Geddes, and I'm joined by

0:14

the sad boy himself there, Courtney. Mhmm.

0:28

Dude, monologue Barrett.

0:31

I wrote the whole speech down.

0:33

The whole script is just written down in my notes.

0:37

Oh, wow. There we go.

0:40

Where were you this one? We got the historical

0:43

ones. I

0:45

love that for you. Cool. I

0:48

love that for you. You went

0:50

to that Galaxy's Edge for the first time.

1:05

Me

1:05

check-in. Here me. There you go. Now you can hear it.

1:08

No. There we go. Everything is different because

1:10

I'm running things from home right

1:11

now. So yeah.

1:12

That's it. I gotta relearn my stuff

1:14

from home. Yeah. So I want

1:16

to gather Alexi's ads for the first time

1:18

in three years. Last time I was there, it was a couple

1:20

weeks before Rise of the Resistance had opened.

1:23

And so I got to do that twice

1:26

in the last couple of days, which was such a magical

1:28

time. I've been

1:29

straight.

1:30

Yeah. It it was seriously, like

1:32

I I can't explain how special that

1:34

that right? That's that's just not just like bunch of

1:36

Star Wars nerds on a video call together saying

1:38

the Star Wars ride is the best ride. really is

1:41

the best ride.

1:42

It really it's insane. It's like, I didn't

1:44

think everybody, like, was hyping

1:46

it up Andor was like, I don't I don't know how this

1:49

lives up to the hype that everybody's trying

1:51

to sell me on, but it it really did. And it's one of

1:53

those ones where it's like, you can't really tell

1:55

when the bride Andor you're you're like,

1:57

am I still in the line. What is happening

1:59

right now? And that's that's

2:01

that's all I'll say about how immersive

2:04

it is and how special that was. But

2:06

yeah, I've been also thinking about buying lightsabers

2:08

for years at this point, and

2:10

it was always back and forth between the Asoka

2:12

lightsabers or the Obi wan canobi

2:14

lightsabers. Or the his

2:16

lightsaber. And the reason why

2:18

his was kind of in the lead was because it's

2:20

only one lightsaber and much cheaper. But

2:22

let me tell you. 1 to one to

2:24

Galaxy's Edge they're like, you like the

2:27

Obi wan Canopy lightsaber? Well,

2:29

we're gonna package it with Anakin, so

2:31

you can't buy them on their own. You gotta

2:33

buy them together. And it's like it's

2:35

four hundred dollars. There's some shit like

2:37

that. That's new.

2:38

Yeah. That's new. Yeah. And so I was

2:40

like, alright. Well, I guess I'm getting the Asoco lightsabers.

2:43

So yeah. That was a that was a fun little thing

2:45

there that I

2:45

got to

2:46

got to get to the the Asoco lightsabers. It

2:48

was meant to be. That was that was that was life

2:50

telling me, hey, get the get the

2:52

Azocul lightsabers. Oh, yeah.

2:54

You gotta love that. Join the group

2:56

well. We got the one only Anthony Carbone.

2:59

Oh, my I

3:02

Good Lord, this show

3:05

It's the best. I

3:07

think it's my favorite Star Wars

3:09

thing, but I'm caught up in the moment right now,

3:11

but I will tell you this or season 1. Went

3:14

out exactly the way I wanted it to. And I'll

3:16

do a quote for you. This one

3:18

got me. I love him more than anything

3:20

he could ever do wrong.

3:23

I wrote that down as well. And then my my

3:25

quote for the man who sees

3:27

everything is more blessed than cursed.

3:30

Oh my god. Did this damn

3:32

show rounded out the group today

3:34

with hair to match the show Andor new

3:36

Harry. Gotta love it. Saves Ryan. How you

3:38

doing? I screamed,

3:41

I frightened my cats, I

3:44

cried, and I also wrote down

3:46

a quote. Andor

3:48

is the empire is a disease

3:51

that thrives in darkness it is never

3:53

more alive than when we are asleep.

3:55

God, so good. We've been asleep

3:58

every time she says we've been asleep,

4:00

it just fucking hits you. So

4:03

in ways every time she says

4:05

it how she repurposes it.

4:07

Marva's speech in

4:10

this finale encapts

4:12

encapsulates the entirety of this

4:14

show, which is just a people

4:16

slowly becoming radicalized.

4:21

Under the tyranny of the empire.

4:23

And it's so beautifully written

4:26

so beautifully told throughout

4:28

the the entire

4:29

season. But that that entire

4:31

speech was just ten out of ten.

4:34

It's also very

4:37

well, we'll get more into it, but I think it's also

4:39

very It's a speech

4:42

for the new era of Star Wars and the

4:44

tone that they're adding to Star Wars now,

4:46

which is what I really, really loved

4:48

about it. And can talk more about that. Tim,

4:50

do your why don't you open this show already?

4:52

0II don't have a you guys took the

4:55

lines that I would have said, I just wanna give shout out to

4:57

marching bands. I'm really happy they're they're back

4:59

in

4:59

vogue.

4:59

Maybe in I I don't

5:00

know if they're back in vogue. They're

5:01

in vogue for his marching bands.

5:04

Okay. He's we'll you know, a big fan of

5:06

that. But of course, this is the kind of funny

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Today, we're about to buy Shady Rays, but we'll tell you

6:06

all about that later. I wanna get

6:08

right into it SAGE, let's start

6:10

with you. What did you think about the

6:12

finale of Andor season one?

6:14

There was a lot of things that we speculated

6:17

happening. We speculated on

6:19

Marva. We speculated on a

6:21

special appearance by somebody.

6:23

And there was a brief moment. Towards

6:25

the beginning of the episode that

6:28

I went Palpatine.

6:31

Oh, really? The emperor. They might show the

6:33

emperor. Andor I'm so

6:35

glad that they didn't. This

6:37

show has been perfect all the

6:39

way through for me. And

6:41

the fact that they let this finale

6:43

carry itself entirely

6:46

is not common for Star

6:48

Wars immaculate.

6:52

I wrote down Nemex entire

6:54

speech and -- Yes. -- it

6:56

can they release Nemex manifesto?

6:58

And they release as

7:01

a book, Nenex' manifesto.

7:04

As a raging commie, I

7:06

sat there screaming at my television,

7:09

and I wrote the whole thing down because I Googled

7:11

it I couldn't find the whole speech

7:13

online anywhere. Yeah. I'm sure there's like

7:15

gonna be, but, you know, it's only been

7:17

out for so many hours, so I couldn't find

7:19

a transcript of the entire

7:20

speech. So instead, I sat down with

7:22

the captions on my television and I wrote the

7:24

higher things down. Oh my god. That's

7:26

great. Freedom is a pure idea. I

7:29

just it's so amazing. It's

7:31

so

7:31

amazing. Good. From it

7:33

also tyranny is tyranny

7:35

requires constant effort, like, every

7:37

piece of it. And I was texting Anthony while I

7:39

was watching it. And I texted him and I was,

7:41

like, best speech in Star Wars --

7:43

Right. -- each ever in Star Wars. And

7:46

then, Marva spoke. And I was, like, yeah.

7:48

I don't know anymore. Well, I'll

7:50

tell you at this stage, you sent me one text,

7:52

which was best speech in Star

7:53

Wars. Do you remember what the single text I

7:55

sent to you during this episode was?

7:57

I do. It says I have it right in front of

8:00

me. It says funeral jizz.

8:02

Why do I do?

8:03

There we go. There was a band

8:05

and they for the funeral they played

8:07

funeral Jizz. Those

8:09

who don't immediately have that recall

8:11

to mine as it took me a moment

8:14

Jazz in Star Wars is called

8:17

Jib. They did a they did a jazz

8:19

funeral

8:19

for Martha, and so they were playing funeral

8:21

Jib.

8:22

But the female procession music slapped

8:24

so long.

8:25

It was really good. It was really good. It

8:27

was just being that good. Both the, like, somber

8:30

like actual funeral music

8:32

and the moment when

8:34

it kicked. The moment when

8:36

it kicked was incredible. It

8:39

wasn't over the top. It was subtle

8:41

enough that you're

8:41

like, oh, oh, what's happening? Yeah. Or

8:44

what's happening? 1

8:44

mean, when they when the March

8:47

stops Andor

8:47

like, b two, like, does that weird

8:50

little, like, thing and then they pick up

8:52

and you're like, oh, let's fucking

8:53

go, man. Let's

8:54

go. Let's Go.

8:55

Yeah. I watched this right before we did this,

8:58

by the way. So I am filled with, like,

9:00

the immediately after watching

9:02

Andor

9:02

hiking. Hi, Bonnie.

9:04

What about you? Yeah.

9:07

Pitch perfect ending. I think

9:09

the I think the entire season

9:11

has been pitch perfect for

9:13

me. I know there was some stuff that we were

9:15

a little unsure of in the beginning,

9:17

but I was I was

9:20

keeping I was keeping my hopes up that they were

9:22

just setting things up. And every time we worried about

9:24

something, it was that they were just kind of setting

9:26

things up that were going to pay off. I

9:28

felt very good about this show all the way through.

9:30

I think all of these characters

9:32

had had perfect endings and perfect

9:35

kind of cliff hanger endings.

9:37

This hit all of the emotional notes

9:39

that I wanted it to hit.

9:42

I will tell you as

9:44

we start going through it, the moment I exactly

9:47

gave up on my theory of Marvel

9:49

still being

9:49

alive, but

9:51

and you probably know what moment it is, but

9:57

I couldn't have loved this episode

9:59

more and they could not have done

10:01

a better job or given this a better

10:03

ending, I I don't I don't

10:05

think. Alright.

10:08

Yeah. The I I'm in

10:10

complete agreement. I think the way that they

10:12

are able to thread

10:14

almost everything that has been set up

10:17

throughout the season into just

10:19

this one episode where you're constantly

10:21

going back and forth between so

10:23

many different things. And none

10:25

of it feels unearned, it all

10:27

feels well set up and you feel the

10:29

tension of the

10:32

first guy who is tortured. Andor

10:36

think, like, left up for dead or whatever.

10:38

His son yeah. His

10:40

son making this bomb throughout the,

10:42

like, first third of the episode then

10:44

also catching up with vel

10:45

sinta. And then the Skarsgard's

10:48

coming into town Andor, like, all of these different

10:50

things need

10:50

Lim flash backs.

10:51

Yes. Glenn Glenn flashbacks Andor like,

10:54

just all of these things and you feel

10:56

the tension for the

10:58

entire episode until it

11:00

burst at the end of Martha's speech, and it's so

11:03

goddamn good. Yeah.

11:05

I thought this was a a beautiful way

11:07

to end to the show. I think like

11:09

Carbone was saying especially last week, III

11:12

do think this is probably the the best

11:14

Star Wars anything.

11:16

I I don't I don't know if it's my favorite

11:18

Star Wars. Like, again, I I have a a

11:20

personal soft spot for the animated

11:22

stuff, but III think just of

11:25

of pure quality in

11:27

writing production, performance,

11:30

video editing, and and pacing, and

11:32

all that stuff. III really think

11:34

this is something truly special

11:36

that has hit a high that I

11:38

don't know Star Wars has ever hit before.

11:40

And -- Yeah. -- yeah. I'm I'm so

11:42

excited for what they're gonna do with

11:44

season

11:44

two. There's still so many questions. There's so many

11:47

things that I feel

11:47

like, we got enough

11:50

answers today on

11:52

the kind of where people are going

11:54

their trajectories with their life, but there's

11:56

still so much that's set up for,

11:58

like, alright, what's my boy serial figures

12:00

going like, what's he gonna do in season

12:02

two? So, like, Yeah. III

12:05

absolutely loved this episode even

12:07

I I was watching in bed this morning

12:09

Andor Alyssa who was not watch any of this show

12:11

was also hanging out and she was like,

12:13

that was really good even though I had not watched

12:15

like any of the other episodes. That was a

12:17

really good time. So There

12:19

you

12:19

go. That's I feel like the highest praise I can give

12:22

is is her is her praise

12:24

there.

12:24

Yeah. How was

12:24

it for you, Jim? It's a

12:27

ten. I mean, this season of TV, I

12:29

think the season is a ten. This finale was

12:31

a ten. It paid off so well on everything

12:33

that it built up I was less high as

12:35

we've talked about on the first couple episodes

12:37

Andor I feel like this show was just so

12:39

well structured to have those

12:41

three episodes Andor this last one kind

12:43

of feel like the perfect endpoint

12:46

conclusion to making those three episodes

12:48

like Anthony was saying, like, feels so worth

12:50

it. All of it was set up all

12:52

the middle episodes, I was just so enamored

12:54

with and loved him so much that I feel

12:56

like they put every character, every location in

12:58

this scenario that this episode was able

13:00

to just kind of in a weird way scaled

13:02

back, it felt, and just deal with the

13:04

characters, deal with the realness of what's going

13:06

on in the situation. And for

13:08

a show that just every

13:10

episode, we're like, oh my god. That's the best

13:12

monologue ever. And then in that same episode,

13:14

they outdo themselves. I feel like they've done

13:16

that for the last five episodes now.

13:18

To get to this episode have

13:20

Martha have that speech to have

13:22

the manifesto

13:23

read. Like, all of it, it's just like,

13:26

man,

13:26

like, In terms of, like, is this my favorite Star

13:28

Wars? Is the best Star Wars? Like, it almost doesn't

13:30

matter because this is perfect. Like, this

13:32

is a perfect use of Star Wars. And

13:34

the story that they told in the way that they told

13:37

it is downright impressive

13:39

honestly. Using the

13:41

toys that they have to play with, I feel like

13:43

they they treated it so seriously. I am still

13:45

so surprised at how

13:47

people die in this show, where it

13:49

just feels real Andor it's that we

13:51

use the word grounded so often to describe

13:53

things, but this show is grounded in a in a

13:55

way that I don't know that ever seen before

13:57

for this type of sci fi of people

13:59

getting shot by a laser, and then they just dropped

14:01

down. And then the camera just lingers on their body.

14:03

Yeah. And we just look at them. And

14:05

it's like, it it all of a sudden just

14:07

feels so much more real where it

14:09

doesn't just feel like mass numbers kind of running at

14:11

each other and hitting each other with sticks and stuff.

14:13

It's like, Oh, these are people. These

14:15

are all individual people that all

14:17

have stories and lives and friends and

14:19

relationships, and they are now

14:21

deciding I whether it's on

14:23

the small scale or the mod, MatHemus

14:24

scale, deciding that, go, we need

14:26

to give up some of our luxuries in

14:28

life. Even if your luxury is

14:30

just being with your partner

14:32

on in in in in Phoenix or

14:34

whatever. Barrett being a

14:36

galaxy's edge watching this episode, I was, like,

14:38

so impressed with just this

14:40

set dressing of of

14:42

Eric's where, Mike, this looks like galaxy's edge. Like,

14:44

this is some Star Wars shit. It's it's cool to

14:46

be able to just live in this world

14:48

and see it so

14:50

well presented, especially

14:52

comparing it to some of the other shows that we've talked about of

14:54

not feeling so great about. Boba Fed, how

14:56

Tassooine was, and all that. Like, I believed

14:58

in this place Andor believed in these people Andor

15:00

believed in the fight they were in. I believed in the empire

15:02

Andor they felt.

15:03

I loved the way that this show was dealt with the

15:05

empire being really just a quick

15:07

clip of Tim Getty saying I believe in the

15:09

empire. Yeah.

15:10

Yeah. Don't

15:10

don't clip it out. Don't don't clip it out.

15:13

Definitely don't clip that out a condom. Just clip

15:15

that out. I

15:17

believe in where the characters of the

15:20

empire we see in this show, the way that

15:22

they speak to each other, the way that we've

15:24

countlessly seen them be like, We

15:26

should use this for practice or like, we

15:28

should get better at this. It's like, we're seeing the

15:30

beginning of this evil. And it's been

15:32

how happening for a while and to see them all, to

15:34

see the one dude that's kind of like, I guys

15:36

go for it. Like, we can't let this happen in this funeral procession

15:38

as the music's so beautifully rising

15:41

and like what Sage was saying, like, not only

15:43

was the somber stuff great, the moment it like

15:45

kicks off, it just that

15:47

song, that funeral procession, this episode

15:49

feels like just such a

15:51

great endpoint reminder of

15:53

what we felt this entire season, of how

15:55

detention is, has risen the entire

15:57

time till its breaking point. And this episode's kind of

15:59

just like the inclusion of

16:01

the beautiful essay that was on our

16:03

horse hand or season one. 1 wanna

16:05

say, I was I I wanna III

16:07

was saying the show needs to have a post credit that's gonna

16:10

get the norm he's talking. They pulled it

16:12

off. They didn't it wasn't a person, but it

16:14

was a iconic thing. We all

16:16

expected it was the death stock. But

16:18

seeing it and seeing it the way that they showed

16:20

it, that's the type of thing that people are gonna

16:22

go,

16:22

oh, shit, really? Yeah. I'm into the

16:24

show. I'm good. Because there's way more ice. And

16:26

and

16:26

y'all called it with the the the

16:28

building the parks at the prison and stuff like

16:30

that. and seeing

16:31

that contextualized is was really

16:33

really cool to see. It

16:35

just Yeah. I

16:36

mean, Cassian

16:39

and or being so

16:41

woven into every level of the thing

16:43

without even realizing it before he's even

16:45

ready to, like, come to terms with it,

16:47

that was just such a perfect that was

16:49

such a perfect button on it. You know what I mean? Like, he

16:51

was gonna be in this whether he wanted to or

16:53

not. It was just

16:55

absolutely lovely. And, of course, I wanna shout

16:57

out Nicholas tell again for the

16:59

amazing music in this show because I feel

17:01

like he's I'm not hearing his name as

17:03

much as, like, Ludwig Gorenston's name or as much

17:05

as, like, you know, or as much as Giacchino's

17:08

name. But I want I want people to

17:10

be saying his name when it comes to Star

17:12

Wars music because I think he's done such an amazing

17:14

job and he's just such a versatile

17:16

composer all the way through this

17:17

season. Speaking on the music, I I've

17:20

always loved the the use of the theme just

17:22

for the title screen itself where you see Andor

17:24

like how it sets the stage for, like, how the vibe and tone of

17:26

the episode's gonna be. I love it for this one.

17:29

1, like, a sarcophonic noise

17:32

of just blooming sounds of

17:34

the theme Andor just, like, cuts into

17:36

Here we are. The funeral is about to

17:38

happen. We know all the players are about to be

17:40

in the same

17:40

place, like, what is about to go down?

17:43

That's such a chess game. It was such a chess

17:45

game. It was so fun to watch from

17:47

that where you're just like, how How does this

17:49

all

17:49

work? I would love to talk about Bix.

17:51

Yeah. We

17:52

gotta talk about Bix. I mean,

17:54

we were going back and forth on whether

17:57

or not she was, like, completely hopeless and gone.

17:59

And I loved

18:01

her ending for this season. I thought

18:03

it was incredible on

18:05

the ship taking off. He'll find us. He'll find

18:07

us. And maybe part of me love

18:09

that because I'm like, thank God someone's there to

18:11

comfort be too. But like,

18:14

setting them off together as both characters that I have

18:16

loved in this show that,

18:18

like, door being

18:20

opened to a new path forward

18:22

for those characters makes me so excited

18:24

for season two. I'm

18:27

so glad that they didn't give us a

18:29

hopeless end to

18:31

Bix's

18:31

story.

18:31

Mhmm. Well

18:32

and I also enjoyed I wanna jump in there.

18:34

Just just real fast, I just wanna say, I really

18:36

appreciate that how the nolly tied everything together because we've

18:38

been theorizing what we think might happen and came

18:40

up with a lot of really logical ways

18:43

things could play out. I love that the way

18:45

that this played out makes perfect sense satisfies

18:47

all of us, and it wasn't what any of us really expected

18:49

in terms of, like, character by character endpoints.

18:52

Yeah. Or, like, when

18:54

does they when does he join the rebellion? When does this character die? When does

18:56

this happen? It's just Wow. They did a

18:58

great job of giving

19:00

us what we

19:01

need, not what we want. They're

19:03

expecting And

19:04

I think, you especially with this, the

19:07

great thing about giving

19:08

us those kinds of endings is

19:11

like,

19:12

he'll find us, and he

19:14

goes, oh, yeah, I'll find you. And you

19:16

see that look in his face, that Cassian

19:18

look of, like, man, I don't know that I'm ever gonna find you and I

19:20

don't know that I'm ever coming back I don't know

19:22

that you can trust me because I'm

19:25

I'm still I still

19:27

don't think very much of myself. And

19:29

just because I came through for you this one

19:32

time, I wouldn't put all

19:34

your hope in me. Yeah. You know what I

19:36

mean? When when this whole series in the

19:38

first third of this series, he was

19:40

like, man, why doesn't Bix just like believe in

19:42

me? Why that's Caffeian's problem. And I love that it's

19:44

always Cassian's problem. He's like, hey, man, why don't

19:46

you trust me until somebody trust me? He's like,

19:48

whoa, whoa, don't trust me? I never

19:50

come through. And I

19:52

just love that that continues even in

19:54

that just that little moment

19:55

there. Seeing but seeing Bix

19:58

totally, like,

19:59

totally broken down

19:59

where it's like, no, we can't leave. They'll be

20:02

angry. I know. That was hard. And

20:04

that's when she said that too,

20:06

I was like, oh, she's too

20:08

far gone. Because they they do, again,

20:10

when we're jumping back and forth between so

20:12

many different threads, every time

20:14

you see her, and just like the way she's

20:16

kind of like kind of tuned into the

20:18

funeral, kind of humming along while

20:20

crying and stuff. You're like, she's she's

20:22

kind of there and, like, you're scared of, like,

20:24

how much is really gonna there

20:26

when Cassian shows up to try to

20:28

and save

20:28

her. Yeah. I was I was

20:31

really scared that it was gonna be more of

20:33

a a fight to get her out

20:35

of there. I mean, she even says She's like, Martha was

20:37

here. And he goes, I know, wasn't she great? And it's

20:39

just like, oh, man, you don't know

20:41

what's going on. Like,

20:43

beautiful. But I

20:45

do love I I also love,

20:47

like, the empire, something that

20:49

they show throughout this entire episode,

20:52

is a regime like the empire, a

20:55

government that's trying to be totalitarian like

20:57

that, thinks they have control

20:59

over everything and forget like

21:01

the human connections that make up an

21:03

actual community, when Cas breaks

21:06

into the hotel and pulls

21:08

the gun on the cook, Andor

21:10

he goes, oh, hey, Tennant, and he goes, hey, Cass.

21:12

Sorry about your mother. Like,

21:14

there's nobody on that planet that

21:16

is loyal to the empire that didn't

21:19

show up with the empire. And the

21:21

empire just believes they have control. And I

21:23

think that's one of the wonderful things that they keep

21:25

showing with this. It's like -- So -- and it comes

21:27

back to Mimics. Yeah. It

21:29

comes back to manifesto. Right? Where it's like, this

21:32

is like, it's an

21:34

impossible thing to keep

21:36

up. It's brittle. It falls

21:38

apart. Because it's not the natural

21:40

order. You can't impose that order. The

21:42

other half of that is Marva's speech

21:44

because a, and again.

21:46

But Marva's speech is

21:48

we've been sleeping because we've

21:51

had each other. And like as

21:53

beautiful as it is to be

21:55

able to find goodness in

21:57

your community, and to be able to ignore the

21:59

outside world because you

22:01

have each other. It's

22:04

made them completely unaware of them

22:06

being completely infiltrated in their community.

22:09

Yeah. And so much of her speeches about that. It's

22:11

like, I know we love each other.

22:13

What the hell are we gonna do

22:15

with

22:15

it? Yeah. It's useful and not just

22:18

surviving? Well, and it's funny

22:20

because you wonder watching this episode.

22:22

Something they don't do, which I

22:23

think is wonderful, is

22:25

they don't show little

22:28

minutia of how much of

22:30

how much of marvelous funeral,

22:32

how much of Rick's Road was

22:35

planned. How much did everybody know about everybody

22:37

else's plan? When Brasso looks

22:39

over at Willeman, pop Pax

22:41

Kid, who by the way, is named for Bob

22:43

Willeman, who's of the writers on the

22:45

series. When Brasso looks over at

22:47

Wilman and kinda gives him this eye

22:49

and Wilman looks back at

22:51

him You get the feeling like Brasso

22:53

knows Wilman's about to pull

22:55

something. Does Brasso know that there's

22:57

a bomb? Does Brasso know how big

22:59

this thing that he is going to

23:01

be. And you get the feeling that not everybody knows

23:03

what everybody else is going to do.

23:06

They all

23:06

everybody knows that they're ready to fight.

23:08

Yeah. They're ready to fight back,

23:10

which

23:11

Like, how much does how much do the daughter of the daughters

23:13

of variks know about all this? Right. How much do

23:15

they

23:15

know about, like, the speech that

23:17

was left behind? How much, like,

23:19

who's watched that speech? Has anybody watched that

23:21

speech? Like, how much

23:24

did b two know? Right?

23:27

B2B2.

23:29

Yeah. By the way, the b two moves when the

23:31

music changes, the band

23:33

knew something was up. There is some coordination

23:35

level within the

23:36

community, and I love that we didn't see it.

23:38

I

23:38

love it. Yeah. It's the moment it's like But we

23:40

do what you're saying? We're talking about Star Wars, you

23:42

guys? Yeah. I hope it helps. It's like, this is

23:44

this is awesome

23:45

TV, man. It also

23:46

sounds good. Star Wars.

23:49

Yeah. I think Marva saved Bix.

23:51

I think it says, Marva

23:54

was here because you can he's you

23:56

can see her leaning up against the wall listening

23:58

to Marva's

23:59

speech. Andor think that is the only

24:01

reason -- Why she got back? -- to roll out.

24:03

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I also wanna point

24:05

out that we're talking about B2I

24:07

think the first time he actually speaks at all

24:09

is at the end of the episode, and he he

24:12

says Cassian. Because, yeah, he

24:14

does not talk at all. I think throughout

24:16

the the funeral, or

24:18

anything like that. And it was just like, when he just

24:20

does the little chazian you're

24:22

just like,

24:22

oh, my guy. You're just forever

24:24

sad it makes me sad

24:26

all the time.

24:27

I know. I love it so much.

24:29

And extra extra hell

24:32

goes to the person who kicked over

24:34

b two. When did you 1 one

24:36

shit caught

24:36

off? Do we love that it was the kicking

24:39

over of b two that really fucking ended

24:41

it for everybody? You know

24:41

what I mean? That's what I

24:43

that's when

24:44

everybody was like, alright, now it's time to fight. Don't

24:47

know what he's been through.

24:50

But I I don't know. This this episode

24:52

was so good at at so many

24:54

things. We got that

24:56

that's that seen with Kemp in

24:58

the beginning, where he's like where

25:00

he's like nobody looks down, nobody looks at

25:02

the rust, nobody

25:04

sees beyond the rust. They got rid of

25:06

these because they're they they

25:08

wanna sell you a new one. And it's just like,

25:11

what is that? Oh, well, that thing, that part

25:13

right there is called an intergalactic metaphor.

25:15

Like, that's

25:19

literally all it was. And I just but I

25:21

loved it though because you see the two different

25:24

sides of Cassian's upbringing.

25:26

Right? Where we've seen Marlboro who's, like, fight the

25:28

you know, fight fight for this fight for

25:30

this. And Cassian's, like, whoa, calm down. And then

25:32

you see Clement who's, like, hey, man,

25:34

get by. They won't see you.

25:36

Nobody's looking. You can do what you need

25:38

to. And you just sort of like,

25:40

two parents who were

25:43

who separately were

25:45

a little too idealistic in two different

25:48

ways. Coming together and you see these ideals come

25:50

together in Cassian and finally make whether he

25:52

knows it or not, one 1, really

25:55

good rebel. Yeah. And it's lovely to

25:57

see that. You know? And even in the

25:59

even in the what Brasso is

26:01

told by Marva to tell

26:03

Cassian where it's like, he

26:05

knows everything he needs to know. He feels

26:07

everything he needs to feel. And when those two

26:09

pull

26:09

together, he's going to be an unstoppable

26:11

force for good.

26:12

And I

26:13

just love that. I love

26:16

it. I wanna keep talking about

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the ad. So one of the things I I loved

26:50

about this episode as well was seeing the

26:53

empire kind of in disguise

26:55

as the more rebel side, like, seeing

26:57

schedule walk around, like, in the town,

26:59

kind of, like, do an old sneaky sneak

27:01

thing. I was, like, this is cool because we

27:03

don't often see that side of things. Right?

27:05

Like, we always see people pretending

27:07

to be Imperial Officers or whatever, but

27:09

I I like that they built

27:11

this character and characters with mister

27:14

serial. To kind of like be the IDs

27:16

of the bad guys. And we we don't believe in

27:18

them, but like we understand what they're doing and

27:20

why they're here. And I just love that they're both

27:23

so obsessed with getting Andor at this point and like

27:25

figuring this whole thing out. Love the light about

27:27

today was about wiping the taste of Aldani

27:29

from the emperor's mouth like,

27:31

just such a such a good good

27:33

to single line. The the the poetry,

27:35

the lyricism of that line. I love

27:38

so much the delivery out of it from our

27:40

from our boy over there. So good,

27:42

but to get to the the rising tension

27:44

where we're we're seeing it obviously from the

27:46

protagonist's point of view. We're rooting for the the

27:48

good guys. But it gets

27:50

scary for deadpool at the end when she's,

27:51

like, getting trampled and kinda beat up, and

27:53

then the the space cop pulls her out. I

27:55

was, like, I am

27:56

a young man. Agent. I thought it feels

27:58

like you didn't get it. But also, at

28:00

the same time, I was like, yeah, get her

28:02

ass. Like, got it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I

28:04

feel that loud when she started getting

28:06

rampled

28:06

himself. I

28:07

was like, fuck, yes. And

28:08

it's funny. It's funny because you

28:10

forget that her title throughout the

28:12

series is analyst.

28:14

Yeah. She's a data analyst. Yeah.

28:16

She's not She

28:17

has been on herself just, like, literal.

28:19

But there's

28:20

chat go out there. Where

28:22

Cyril pulls Deidre

28:24

into there. Way too much

28:26

sexual tension between those

28:27

nazis. Right? Yeah. I didn't love that. I honestly

28:30

she was like, I should stay thank you right now, and he's like, you

28:32

don't have to. And I was like, that's

28:34

I really wanted her to kill him there.

28:36

I don't know why. I like, I really wanted

28:38

her to be like, no, you

28:40

fucking followed me when I told you not to. Like, I wanna

28:42

kill and and granted my boys'

28:44

year old figures here, a very fascinating

28:47

boy. Not my boy. Hold on.

28:49

No. Not my boy in that sense, but

28:51

just like

28:51

but still thing is Flip that out. Can we click that

28:54

out? Have a bad next to James?

28:56

I love the entire shit.

29:00

My my boy in the sense that he is a

29:03

fascinating character Andor he's a

29:05

great character study. III that was

29:07

like the one thing where I was like, alright. I get why they

29:09

wanna keep him alive because he is

29:11

fascinating and what they're gonna do with him in

29:13

season two is gonna be a

29:15

very interesting second half to

29:17

his story. But at the same time for her

29:19

character, I really wanted her to be

29:21

like, no, you fuck it. Like, I I get

29:23

that you just saved

29:23

me, but no. I told you to if

29:26

I can stay away from me. And

29:27

I think I feel that I have a brief kiss.

29:29

I well, I went both ways with

29:31

him. Right?

29:32

I thought zero was gonna have his

29:34

first kiss. Me too. I lied

29:36

to. So so I went both ways with it. I

29:38

was like, he might try to

29:41

kiss her. I don't

29:43

know. But, like, her energy was

29:45

like, he just saved my life. no.

29:47

I looked like an idiot out

29:48

there. Oh, no. He's the one that

29:50

saved my life. Right. Oh, no. Like, there was

29:53

just, like, a lot

29:53

of reports Andor her address.

29:56

Like getting all of that across. Yeah.

29:58

I do think that there was that element of

30:00

the field that she's not a field agent. I do think

30:02

that there was a a humbling

30:04

moment to her where she was

30:07

like, this guy saved me, and III

30:09

kinda needed him. And I didn't I don't

30:11

wanna need him. But I did. And I think there

30:13

was that moment of reflection where she was

30:15

like, I don't have this all

30:17

figured

30:17

out. I can't do this all by

30:19

myself. Well, and that's the thing is the two of them coming

30:21

together like this is, you know,

30:23

we're seeing we've seen in this season

30:26

the partisan Sagarrera. We know that

30:28

there are extremists on the

30:31

side of the rebellion. You

30:33

think that you don't really need streamest within the empire because

30:35

they're the empire. They're already, like, far,

30:37

far, far, far, fascist. Right? Like,

30:39

whatever. But here's the thing.

30:41

We're watching throughout the entire season especially through

30:43

this episode, when part of Gaz

30:45

is like, no, this was about, like you

30:47

said, getting the taste of Aldani out of

30:49

the emperor's mouth, It's like everything

30:52

is for show. Everything's for a

30:54

promotion. And she's like

30:56

somebody needed to be in the room to tell you

30:58

not to kill this guy because he

31:00

has information. throughout this entire

31:02

episode, she's telling everybody else they're like,

31:04

oh yeah, we can put a guy right there Andor she's like,

31:06

no, don't kill

31:08

him. We need to ask

31:10

him things, and they're

31:12

just like, they don't get it.

31:14

And the fact that Cyril is

31:16

the only other person that gets what

31:18

she's saying is starting to make the

31:20

two of them very dangerous

31:23

and very very putting.

31:27

You know?

31:28

Like, they're gonna get weird. They're

31:30

gonna get weird. Oh, yeah. It's gonna get

31:32

real weird. I'm That's that's

31:34

one 1 that I'm not excited to to see where

31:36

that goes because it's gonna be it's gonna be

31:38

creepy, baby. That moment with him

31:40

and him and Musk on the

31:43

on the transport -- Well, there's a

31:44

-- with the with the hats.

31:47

Why were why were they switching hats? So

31:49

so serial had the imperial hat

31:51

Okay. And Musk had Musk had the Musk

31:53

had a civilian hat, and

31:56

Musk offered his civilian hat

31:59

to Cyril, to help

32:01

his to help his

32:03

disguise. Right? Because that's his

32:05

commanding officer. Andor all I

32:07

could think about the two of them was just

32:09

like these two fucking

32:11

written houses, just these

32:13

two little these two little online

32:16

militia idiots

32:18

and and just mosque just

32:21

putting all of his faith into cereal,

32:23

and then that that shot at the end of mosque

32:25

drinking alone because cereal has

32:27

left him -- Oh, yeah. -- cereal has left

32:29

him in the dirt. For

32:31

Dedra. Mhmm. Andor it's

32:33

just it was

32:34

gross. Everything they did was gross. Yeah.

32:36

The the happy 1 the day you first explained

32:38

it because I was a little confused there too. But

32:40

just loved even the public transportation that we've

32:42

been seeing in these shows. Like, we saw it we

32:45

saw it in in both of that now,

32:47

in in Obi wan, now seeing this, it's like, I

32:49

it just makes the universe in these worlds and

32:51

planets just feel so much more, like,

32:53

real places. And I love just

32:55

like these these guys it's

32:57

exactly what you're saying. Like, they're they are assholes that are just

32:59

the online Fortune motherfuckers. But it's

33:02

like seeing them take public transportation to

33:04

their to

33:04

their, like, little meetup spot.

33:06

It's just very funny to me. And III

33:09

love the the moment too where the the funerals

33:11

popping off then cereal cereal

33:13

trying to get through he just gets

33:15

pushed back like the little fucking nerdy is

33:17

by the by the empire

33:20

or he's just like, oh, he walks in like he

33:22

owns the place. It's, like, just a reminder of,

33:24

like, no, dude. Like, you're just a

33:25

guy. Yeah. Sit the fuck up. Well, they're

33:28

arriving too. You know, we also have we

33:30

have Louthan arriving and

33:32

Vell arriving. Louthan, I just wanna

33:34

give a shout out to Louthan rails'

33:36

Arctic storefront. Because that

33:38

dude is buying the best ponchos

33:40

and hoodies Andor freaking

33:43

That dude is like his

33:45

his his when when Louthan is in

33:47

the field, his

33:49

wardrobe is all like a

33:51

cold wall. You know what I mean? He is tech wear to the max,

33:53

and I love it. Did you notice

33:55

though? I love and and Barrett, I feel like you

33:57

would you would have been the the guy to really

33:59

clock

33:59

this. He comes and goes exactly like Mall

34:02

does. Yeah.

34:04

He

34:04

comes and goes exactly like Mall does in

34:06

the prequels. Mhmm. He

34:09

lands in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. He gets on his little speeder. He

34:11

pulls his hood up. He doesn't get

34:13

his guy -- Mhmm. -- and

34:15

he drives

34:16

away. Yeah.

34:18

So you're saying here

34:19

is that there is going to be an

34:21

eventual mall connection with Luke

34:23

I'm saying a mall. Mall in season

34:25

two. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to talk about getting his guy. Ugh. Okay.

34:27

I wanna talk about how all of a sudden

34:29

all the stormtroopers

34:31

have impeccable aim and one

34:33

hit kills for this whole

34:36

series.

34:36

Oh, yeah. Yeah. One

34:37

shot this plaster is now deadly.

34:40

Like, deadly. For

34:41

those good ones real quick. You know

34:43

what

34:43

I mean? They burn through those good ones real quick, and then they'll

34:44

and then they don't get the best in listing. You know what I

34:47

mean? They're not stealing the best bait. Andor the time you

34:49

get to the original trilogy.

34:51

Yeah. Yeah.

34:52

Yeah. And we also again, the one shot, one kill, it's like it

34:55

it made the stakes feel real, and it like,

34:57

you worried about every character when they were

34:59

in precarious situations. Like,

35:02

Sinta running through that beautiful shot, that run

35:04

through the smoke, the one shot following, going in

35:06

stabbing the guy. It's like, she's gonna die, and

35:08

I'm like, I'm happy she didn't because she's

35:11

awesome. You know? And I I work. The dynamic

35:13

between her and Val and Val just as a character,

35:15

we need to stop my mom, Martha. Yeah.

35:17

Yeah. Who's seen of her in the

35:19

car, just sitting there,

35:20

just breathing. But,

35:21

yeah, we gotta put a we gotta put a pin

35:23

in Mon Mothma for sure. Yep. But when we're

35:25

talking about sis Cynthia and Val Val

35:28

just like, taken forever to read

35:30

the room, Like, read the room, though.

35:32

Like, it's not about you today.

35:35

It's unfortunately not gonna be about you

35:37

for a bit. until the death stargets

35:39

destroyed. You know what I

35:39

mean? Yeah. It it reminds

35:42

me of the of the the character

35:44

in the Asoka book who, like, had

35:47

kind of fallen a little bit for ahsoka, but she

35:50

could not think about that

35:52

at at that time because now

35:54

it's it's

35:54

wartime. We can't think about that kind of stuff.

35:57

Which is

35:57

such a badass. Yeah.

35:59

Yep. Since it's so cool. She is

36:02

so cool. And what I do love somebody Andor

36:04

I think somebody pointed this out and somebody's

36:06

watching live pointed this out as well, it's

36:07

easy for

36:08

the rebels to pick

36:11

out an imperial undercover.

36:14

There's something about an Imperial undercover

36:16

where they just can't blend in.

36:18

Yeah. It's, you know, it's Corvos, Corvos,

36:20

Corvos, or whatever his name is

36:24

Corvos, posture sure. And the way he carries himself when he's walking through

36:26

and since it just clocks him immediately

36:28

as

36:28

ISB, because they

36:29

just can't blend in. And she's also

36:32

just good at her job, man.

36:34

Yeah. Yep. She's so

36:35

good. And poor Val is

36:38

just like

36:39

I think

36:40

Val is still reeling from

36:43

really from the revelation

36:45

she had last episode where she realized

36:47

that she put Mon into the situation

36:49

that she's in that

36:52

Louthan doesn't Louthan doesn't care about her anymore than anybody else

36:54

does. Vela is learning that

36:56

nobody in the rebellion is cared for any

36:58

more than anybody else when it's

37:00

mission time. Andor it's really

37:02

starting to hurt Val's feelings a lot.

37:04

And I wonder 1 was

37:05

raised, like,

37:05

basically royalty there. She was

37:08

raised wealthy.

37:09

Right. And that's the thing, right, is it's just

37:11

like, I wanna go do something worthwhile,

37:13

but still I'm

37:15

used to being

37:16

treated like

37:17

a little princess.

37:20

So what's going on

37:21

here? I wanna

37:21

know the story of why

37:24

mom got in

37:26

this whole, like, pathway of the marriage and all of that

37:28

Andor felt

37:29

didn't. Yeah.

37:30

You wonder if it's

37:31

older or 1 it's older and

37:33

younger? Or something like Or she's

37:34

a cousin if she had passed or something?

37:36

Yeah. If maybe maybe because she's

37:38

a cousin, her family doesn't have

37:41

the same station that Mon's

37:43

family does, like, you know, how in every in every, like, in

37:45

every, like, fantasy,

37:48

like, royalty sort

37:50

of thing or real royalty. It's like you've got

37:52

the family that's next in line Andor then you've

37:54

got their cousins who are like dukes and

37:56

like duchesses and things like that

37:59

where it's like Vel's just not as important, maybe, is

38:01

what I get the feeling for. And so

38:03

she's able to not she's able to,

38:05

like, not have to, like, carry

38:07

herself as well. As mom does. But -- Mhmm. -- you're

38:09

right, Tim, in that our Lady

38:12

Geraldine needs to get her

38:14

flowers because she's in this

38:16

episode for

38:17

two minutes, and it's

38:19

so good. I'm just

38:21

She's so sad, the

38:24

end. Yo. I I in

38:26

the beginning of this episode, I go to I

38:28

think to myself.

38:30

She's she's figured it

38:31

out. Why not throw a parent

38:33

under the

38:34

bus? Everybody knows that parents a terrible guy. Yeah. All you have

38:36

to do is say, I know my driver's

38:38

a spy. Aaron, you're gambling

38:40

again. We're losing money.

38:43

It felt like it felt like

38:45

such a desperate attempt too, though. And

38:47

it it it did

38:50

feel really even in the moment really

38:52

week and you get, like, the follow-up on it where you you see that

38:55

kinda deadro's rival. Who's

38:58

the one who is, like, really looking into to to mon there.

39:00

And

39:01

Actually, it's, like,

39:02

blevice or whatever. Yeah. And he's, like,

39:04

this is interesting. Keep listening

39:07

in. Stuff like that? And do you do you

39:10

think that the end there where

39:12

they're walking in in, you know,

39:14

having the the children meet? Do

39:16

you think that's heard just also not

39:18

believing in that attempt that she tried to make of, like,

39:20

blaming it on him because III felt like

39:22

even in the middle of her performance in the

39:24

back of the

39:25

car, she's not even really

39:27

feeling it in a in a way of like trying to sell

39:30

this lie. She she she gives

39:32

like a little there's a slight

39:34

moment where she gives like a little bit

39:36

of like this work, but she,

39:38

like, barely in the car.

39:40

But at the end, when when you

39:42

see when you see Davos

39:44

Scaldon's kid, Andor you're just

39:46

like, you did it. You sold her

39:48

out. You sold your daughter

39:49

out. You sold your

39:52

daughter out. We were we

39:54

were trying to give you more credit than

39:55

that, and you did

39:58

it. Because here's the thing. Let's say she

40:00

covers up that four hundred thousand credits

40:02

that's missing. The empire or

40:04

the rebellion's gonna need more money, and it's gonna need to be hidden better, and she's

40:07

gonna need Davoskelden.

40:10

Is it bad that I don't think it's that

40:12

bad? Like, the the structure in

40:14

itself is pretty bad, but, like, your

40:16

daughter's an asshole that wants this.

40:20

I'm sure she didn't

40:21

know any better. I know she's such a kid.

40:23

I do get that, but right now

40:25

it is just an introduction supposedly.

40:27

For right now, we all

40:29

know what that means. But in this scenario where

40:31

the kids, like, I want this

40:33

old school structure. It was the thing we were

40:35

talking about last week of all

40:37

these, like, history idealists of, like, I wanna

40:39

be a housewife.

40:43

In

40:44

the consequences of the importance we understand

40:46

Monmouth might be. When

40:48

the ultimatum was

40:49

given, I was

40:52

like, yeah.

40:54

Yeah. That's

40:54

probably what you're

40:55

gonna have to do. 1

40:56

would do anything

40:57

for bravo

40:57

to to green light real housewives, of

41:00

course, on. Oh

41:02

my

41:03

god. Sorry. Say it's continued. No. That's

41:05

perfect. That's absolutely perfect. I was

41:08

just like, yeah, that's probably what you're gonna have to do to

41:10

save the galaxy. it's

41:12

not like it's not a game of Thrones

41:14

situation. So maybe the like comparison

41:16

of our like fan disease is

41:18

a little bit off. game of their own

41:20

situation. We don't know anything bad about

41:23

this boy yet. Sure.

41:24

Yet. Sure.

41:25

But he got but we know

41:27

he goes from Herding family.

41:29

I mean, we

41:31

know

41:32

that you're marrying your kid is All we

41:34

know With all

41:35

we know he could be another joffrey

41:37

here, I'm

41:37

just saying. He

41:38

could be. That's what I'm saying is we don't know anything

41:40

to tell us he is yet. Right. Right.

41:42

I think

41:43

it's a terrible structure Andor obviously

41:45

a horrific tradition. But in the

41:47

scale of saving the galaxy right now with the

41:50

information we

41:50

have, it didn't make me dislike Mon mothma

41:52

in any way. I got a

41:55

little bombed at Mon moth for for doing

41:57

it. I I understand that she's been painted into a corner, and I certainly

41:59

am not now I'm certainly not

42:01

anti

42:01

mothma, I would never be.

42:04

But I but can't

42:06

be. I do think

42:08

I do think

42:09

that, like, if

42:10

you're trying you know, throughout this whole season,

42:12

we're

42:13

like, She's not

42:13

as bad as her family thinks she's just

42:16

doing more important things. She she does

42:18

care. And it's like when you see this at the

42:20

end, it's

42:22

like, oh, I wish you'd I wish you'd tried a little harder or taken a little

42:24

more time to find another way here in

42:26

Mon

42:26

Mothma. I thought just heartbroken

42:28

that she had to.

42:31

But that's what I felt about. I didn't feel like there was

42:33

another option she didn't try hard enough or take.

42:35

I felt heartbroken that she had to do this because

42:37

here's the thing. Her husband doesn't have a problem with it.

42:39

Her daughter doesn't have a problem with

42:40

it. The rest of the family doesn't have a problem with

42:42

it. She's actually the only one

42:45

who's against it. Oh. It's

42:48

rough. It's rough. It's rough. I don't like it, and

42:50

I'm very interested in seeing because season

42:53

two, we know is

42:56

an accelerated timeline. If this if this

42:58

arranged marriage happen or this arranged courtship

43:00

happens, we're gonna see it

43:03

in super speed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It'll be a very interesting to see that. It'll

43:05

be a very house of the dragon season one there, which

43:08

will be interesting to see the see them

43:10

pull that off. A

43:12

couple of things I wanna talk about

43:14

before we wrap up. In

43:16

the middle of everything. Right? This

43:20

whole battle between the empire and

43:22

the locals is happening, all

43:24

this stuff. Louthan's been there

43:26

the entire time. He hears

43:28

this speech from Kazians, a mother of this guy that

43:30

he hired as a, you know, a hired

43:32

gun, not really believing in him

43:34

a lot, but then

43:36

he hears what his mother has to say sees what's going on

43:38

with the local population

43:40

who weren't even an official rebel

43:44

cell like yeah, big seem to have had more contact with him

43:46

than they might have let on,

43:48

but it's not like

43:50

the entire local

43:52

population there was a part of the thing

43:54

that he was building. And then seeing all of

43:56

that then him, you know, leaving not getting

43:58

his man and stuff like that, there was a

44:01

shot where he's kinda, like, looking over the town before you see him

44:02

leave. And I was

44:03

thinking of, like, does this moment

44:06

where he

44:08

finally, like, is, like, maybe I don't know Kazian well,

44:10

but maybe he's not as maybe

44:12

he's not as much of a risk as

44:14

as

44:15

I thought. Originally. Yeah. Well,

44:16

the note that I took was like

44:19

was like, you

44:21

know, Louthan is here, and

44:23

he still wants Andor dead. And I

44:25

mean, like, it's been months Cassian

44:27

hasn't said shit. How much of a loose how

44:29

much of a loose thread is Cassian at

44:32

this point? Right. Like, why

44:34

is Louthan obsessing over this one

44:36

thing? I understand that Louthan is starting to

44:38

get a little nervous and he's coming apart at the seams

44:40

a little bit, but, like, Damn, man.

44:42

I think I think at this point, I'm I'm

44:44

more worried about velve than I'm worried about

44:46

Cassian. Right. You know?

44:48

There's a question. If I'm really paying attention to to

44:50

my agents, Like, it's it's

44:52

very interesting to me. I don't I don't know.

44:54

But I do love that he finally,

44:56

like, understands where Cassian comes

44:58

from. And the the the scene between the two of at

45:00

the end where he's like, or the subtext

45:01

with Cassian is like, hey,

45:03

man, if this gets you off

45:05

of my remaining families

45:08

back,

45:09

then, yeah, kill

45:10

me. Go ahead.

45:11

Yeah. Millie, go

45:12

ahead. There's there's no comment.

45:14

You love it. Kill me or take me

45:16

in. Because Here's I got things to say. If you don't wanna

45:18

hear them, you don't have to hear them. But just please

45:21

leave these people

45:21

alone. Yeah. Don't chase them

45:24

because you're chasing me. They don't deserve

45:26

it, which

45:27

is like, Cassian being

45:30

selfless -- I know. -- the first

45:32

time. Yep. We love

45:34

it. We love it because we know we've

45:36

established there's no therapy in Star Wars.

45:38

So for him to come

45:39

to this, on

45:40

his own is a huge deal. Yeah. A huge deal. Again, the

45:43

shit the entire shows about

45:45

the radicalization of

45:48

people. And Andor was the one who was slowest to,

45:50

like, kinda get to that point, but he got

45:52

there. Like, I love the

45:54

end. Right? Where it was, like because

45:56

I the wheel's returning for me

45:58

in the scene, right, where he's letting them go. He's

46:00

gonna stay behind. I was like, why what

46:02

is he planning? And then you kinda think

46:04

back to the moment where Now, you know,

46:07

we're talking about Louthan's great fashion style

46:09

when he's trying to be low key, but it's

46:11

almost like too low key that he

46:13

does stand

46:14

out. So he you

46:15

know, Cassian is able to see him from

46:18

literally, like, a mile away and he's like, oh, so

46:20

that's the guy trying to be sneaky.

46:22

Yeah. Yeah. And so he's

46:24

like, that's interesting. He's probably here

46:26

to to kill me. And

46:28

I I love how that kind of all came

46:30

back together and you know, seeing him

46:32

seeing Louthan leave the the town.

46:34

I was like, man, I really wanted one more moment

46:36

between him and Cass and, like, when

46:38

you when you see him, like, walk onto the ship,

46:40

you're, like, oh, no. He's already here. Yeah. Yeah. And

46:43

III love the kind of

46:45

the interesting non

46:46

ultimatum, ultimatum when he gives them. Right? Or

46:48

he's, like, kill me or take me in where

46:50

it's just

46:50

like, fuck, yes. He is he is now ready to fight, which

46:52

I I goddamn love that,

46:56

like, that's that's this the entire first season was just

46:58

about this, and now season two

47:00

is Andor's fight. The -- Right. -- fight

47:02

that he now knows he's a part

47:04

of. Season

47:06

one was him being a part of

47:08

a fight he didn't know he was in, and then season two will be him actually partaking

47:10

in it in

47:12

it. Consciously.

47:14

Yeah. A couple a couple threads

47:16

that I wanna that I wanna mention here. I

47:18

I do love the thread of Nerci, the

47:20

guy who sells who tries

47:23

to sell out Cassian and ends up getting taken

47:25

in by the imperials

47:26

then, like, blown up. And he just

47:28

signs him.

47:29

Right? And it's just, like, what the fuck

47:31

is he doing here? Again, so many throws looks at him and goes, oh, I

47:33

know

47:33

that. Like, he just gives this look like Yeah. Oh, that

47:35

guy. Who's that?

47:37

Guy. Yeah. like nutchy. Right? Like -- Yeah. -- I

47:40

mean, he he he wanted to collect money for me,

47:42

and and it was like one of those things where I

47:44

love

47:44

that. At the beginning, you're like,

47:46

oh my god. So many different people are looking

47:48

for Kazian

47:49

for their own gain. And then, like, in the middle

47:51

of the episode, it's like when you

47:53

realize he's actually like kinda working for the

47:55

ISP because you assume it's like, oh, he's to get the the money back from from

47:57

Cazion or whatever. But no, now he's just like,

48:00

oh, I'm just gonna collect this bounty or whatever

48:02

from the

48:04

ISP. And just kinda seeing that. I I loved that little moment where

48:06

he was just like, he wouldn't probably never know

48:08

that story. Never know why he was

48:09

there. Never know that he was working with the

48:12

ISP to

48:13

to find them or whatever. You're just like, oh, shit. They got

48:15

nerdy man. I

48:19

also do love

48:22

Brasso, III don't know if we mentioned it, but

48:24

Brasso is starting to knock out

48:26

imperials with Marva's

48:28

stone. Yes. So good. That's

48:30

a moment. That's an

48:32

image. That's a

48:33

vibe. Him

48:33

also just, like, head butting people at a

48:36

certain point. He

48:36

was just,

48:37

like, was just, like, fucking I'm I'm destroying

48:40

myself to fight these people too. Oh, man. I

48:42

love it too because the the Marlboro speech

48:44

is so good, but it

48:46

ending with fight the

48:48

empire. Oh, I know.

48:49

You're the freaking rage mode head button

48:52

motherfuckers all day. This is great, but I

48:53

love him. I the empire as

48:56

the world. It's

48:57

it is exactly what it is. It's so

48:59

simple, but it's just it there's an elegance to

49:01

it. If I could do it again, I would wake

49:03

up early and fight. Fight the -- Yeah.

49:05

-- fire fire. That It's again. Oh. Like I've been

49:07

saying, they've been in their fucking duffy

49:10

in a

49:12

dialogue Andor salilatively

49:14

writing here this entire

49:16

show. Yeah. The Sorry.

49:19

Go ahead. I was gonna

49:21

say with the with another thing

49:23

that I loved about that scene is when they set up oh, yeah. We gave them a

49:25

we gave them a permit for thirty people. They wanted more,

49:27

so we gave them forty.

49:30

Andor then they show that wide shot of the funeral procession. When you

49:32

realize the funeral procession is going to

49:34

turn into a

49:35

riot, is when

49:38

they show that wide shot and you're like, oh, everyone shows up

49:40

for Marva. Yeah. 1 which Andor in

49:42

the beginning, we were like, man, Cassie,

49:45

knows everybody money Cassian seems

49:47

like such a prick. Why does everybody deal

49:50

with Cassian? And then throughout this

49:52

season, we find out it's because

49:53

Farrick, the entire planet

49:56

of Farrick's. Loves Marva and or.

49:58

Uh-huh.

49:58

And she loves Cassie more

50:00

than anything Baty could ever do. Yeah.

50:02

So they're all like, just

50:05

Marva's Jackass

50:05

son. It's so good. It's so

50:08

good.

50:08

That we

50:09

got one last climb. This

50:12

episode. Yes. He held them at the

50:13

very end. He's like,

50:13

once you get out of the water, climb.

50:16

Oh, let's go, baby.

50:18

You've

50:18

gotta climb. That's the only way you get

50:22

out. Yeah. A couple threads that, like, we didn't

50:24

get answers to,

50:26

where is

50:27

the sister? Are we talking

50:30

about the sister anymore? I

50:32

mean, Marvin told him to give up on finding

50:33

his sister. Yeah. Sure.

50:34

Marvin says a lot of things. Cassian

50:37

doesn't listen? It's interesting. III

50:39

wouldn't be surprised either way if she we

50:41

get a plot in season two or if

50:43

no. That's just kinda how things go.

50:45

She's not there. Yeah. I wonder I

50:47

wonder if they're gonna pay that off decided to let it go.

50:50

I do wonder, of course, what's gonna happen

50:52

with with Kendra

50:54

and Cyril. I wonder

50:56

if after if after Bix

50:58

and Brasso and b

51:00

two separate

51:00

off, are they gonna

51:03

see Cassian again? I my prediction is that

51:05

he because he becomes an

51:08

actual spy at a certain point. I

51:10

think he

51:12

might run into

51:14

them without them being aware while

51:16

he is undercover as a spy and

51:18

not really being able to to

51:21

say a goodbye at one point. And that'll be, like, the kinda

51:23

last time that they

51:26

unknowingly see each other from their

51:28

perspective

51:29

at least. Cassian is such a deadbeat

51:31

dad to that droid. When he when he

51:33

says when he says I'm counting on you

51:35

Andor two goes, you always say that. You

51:37

know what? You always come through

51:39

through. It's just like that's such a deadbeat dad shitty thing

51:41

to say. Like, yeah, and you always do buddy.

51:43

Alright. Bye. Yep.

51:48

Dad's gotta go do some greens in space Miami.

51:52

God. Say, do you have any final thoughts

51:54

on this episode in Andor as

51:56

a whole?

51:57

I'm so excited for what this means for

52:00

everything. I am also

52:02

sitting in the space of this is sitting up at the very

52:04

top of my Star Wars. I think that,

52:06

like, The rebellion is

52:08

what I love about Star Wars, the uprising and

52:10

the gathering of it. And I'm sure it hits in

52:12

a lot of people's hearts, like, particularly intensely

52:14

right now, like, it does in mind. There was one

52:16

more moment that we didn't get to talk about. There was just

52:18

one point where as soon as he gets into the

52:20

room with Bix and he sees her, There's

52:23

a point where I just wanna shout out the

52:25

editing where there's just a tiny sound and

52:27

he reaches for his gun Andor it's very subtle and

52:29

they cut away from it. they didn't make it

52:31

like a big thing in a cliffhanger, but like

52:34

it spoke to how well timed this whole

52:36

episode and this whole season

52:38

was. I'm very excited to

52:40

see more about the

52:42

rebellion. And I was never seen less

52:43

Jedi. And now I'm like, yeah.

52:46

Whatever, man. No Jedi. Let's just see a

52:48

bunch of rebels k.

52:49

Off bell towers? Yes. Caballi final

52:51

thoughts? Yeah. It's

52:53

a per it's been a

52:55

perfect show so far. I

52:58

love it's just built and built. Everybody

53:00

who's been coming in late, welcome to

53:02

the best Star Wars thing there's been in

53:04

a good long while, if not of

53:08

all time, And I can't believe we've gotta wait,

53:10

like, a year for

53:11

more. Yeah. They just they just

53:13

started production on season two. Right? Like Yes. It's

53:15

gonna go nuts. Oh, and

53:17

one last thing I wanted to say to everyone about

53:20

this episode. The name the

53:22

the title of the guy who bangs

53:24

the Anvil on the top of the

53:26

bell tower is time

53:27

grappler. He's the official time grappler

53:30

of Farrick's. That's

53:31

awesome. Awesome. That And Supposed

53:35

thoughts. I've got two things

53:38

because we've been talking

53:40

about this in connection with the with rogue one.

53:42

We did the rogue one rearview things

53:45

like that. And I think this finally delivered on the

53:48

substance I was looking from rogue

53:50

one 1 that I think

53:52

can be said with just

53:54

the what you brought up earlier, Tim,

53:56

where the guy is choking out the stormtrooper

53:58

he gets blasted just one single blast

54:01

and you they linger on him for a while on the

54:03

floor. And it's the buddy who's part of, like,

54:05

the local transport who kind

54:07

of Rasche.

54:10

Yeah. Rasche his arc in

54:12

just this episode where he

54:14

kind of realizes that he might be

54:16

the reason that as Cassian is

54:20

is coming back, might not know what he's coming back

54:22

into, you know, the the the

54:24

guy who wants the is now

54:28

secretly working for the ISP is trying to, like, manipulate him while drinking and stuff

54:30

like that. Just all of that

54:32

and how much that weighs

54:34

on him throughout the

54:36

episode then how much he is willing to

54:38

fight at the very end then seeing

54:40

his death and feeling like it all

54:42

kind of like just got taken away so quickly from him being

54:44

able to really do anything major to

54:46

make up for whatever guilt he was

54:49

carrying. I think that character in and of

54:52

itself is way heavier

54:54

than anything that's that happened in

54:56

row one. I'm gonna be honest.

54:59

That that's just my takeaway at least.

55:01

And and I think that's just how

55:03

they wrote it and how they wrote

55:05

a lot of the season. But

55:07

just with that, there's just a lot more substance here that I I

55:09

love that we're finally getting from this section of

55:12

Star Wars. Mhmm. That

55:14

actually carries the

55:16

thing I have loved about Rogue One, how visually

55:18

it just looked so visually

55:20

is the best looking Star Wars. And I

55:22

think the writing has finally caught up with

55:25

that. Andor then the last thing I'll say, we

55:27

said it before, but I wanna say it one more time.

55:29

We are pharex. We were sleeping. If

55:31

I could do it again, I would wake up

55:33

early and

55:34

fight. Fight the empire. note,

55:36

I metzan,

55:37

not rashy. Thank you.

55:39

I'll switch

55:40

out to the Kanto BiTE right

55:43

Andor said this last 1

55:44

year, didn't expect that in in

55:46

Andor. Yeah. Fantastic show. I love that

55:48

that that a Disney plus show, that a Star

55:51

Wars show, could be this good I will

55:53

always take my Jedi and lightsabers because that's the type of shit that I

55:55

love. I want this too. And they don't need to be the

55:57

same thing. I want them

56:00

to coexist. Andor I love that this show was

56:02

just like, we have our own place. We're gonna do our own thing. It is a ten. It

56:04

is perfect. I love it so much. Can't

56:06

wait for

56:07

more. Sage, where could people

56:10

find you? You can find me ever on the Internet

56:12

at not Sage or you can find me on twitch dot

56:14

tv pixel circus hanging out with Anthony all

56:16

the time for a morning Andor and pop culture news

56:18

show called It's too

56:19

early. Fantastic.

56:20

Cariboni, where can people find you?

56:23

You can find me everywhere on the Internet

56:25

at a Cariboni except for on Twitch I

56:27

am at Anthony Carboney Twitch, who cowards its

56:29

mind. Give it back to me. Also

56:31

tomorrow morning at nine AM

56:34

Pacific Time, if you'd like

56:36

to join me for we're gonna be watching on my Discord,

56:38

the Garfield Thanksgiving

56:41

special. We're gonna get

56:43

garfed. Source. We're

56:45

gonna get garfed real early

56:47

tomorrow.

56:47

Good. Good. Oh, that

56:50

is fantastic. Stuff. Before we end this last round of page show producers give

56:52

a shout out to Ryan Anderson, Kenny Kimball,

56:54

Eric, Alaska's Ivan Quiz, Scotty

56:58

Wyatt, Alex Gradel mama mayor. Al tribes have been the predator.

57:00

Jacob Meyer, Stefan Stryker, Gordon Maguire,

57:02

Bert May, Jason l. James Davis makes

57:04

nanobiologist, aero Joe, d j Kentow

57:07

on Twitch, Ryan from Tennessee, Derek

57:10

Gerrick, Donald Echols, Short Fuz o

57:12

six, Jordan Harrison Sean, Balorek, thank

57:14

you all. So very much. And for everyone else till next

57:16

time, may the force be

57:18

with you?