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1:44
do something a little bit different today
1:46
we are are gonna do like an
1:48
An on called Summary. So.
1:51
I as a private practice
1:53
ophthalmologist, I take call. Three.
1:56
To four times a year to for
1:58
a week at a time. Don't.
2:00
Feel sorry for me. I know
2:02
it sounds rough but the I
2:04
get through it so. I.
2:07
Just had one of those weeks not
2:09
too long ago and so I figured
2:11
I would just it could go over
2:13
some of the highlights and we talk
2:15
about the that the the patients that
2:17
I saw it all out. Changed.
2:20
The details of i'm a little bit
2:22
of to protect identities and everything obviously
2:24
better some of the not summers the
2:27
pacers but the diseases and what happened
2:29
and and how I dealt with these
2:31
types of issues on call or they
2:33
can be helpful and hopefully we all
2:36
learn a thing or two or so
2:38
before we get into that though and
2:40
me we talk about Mike whole week
2:43
as matchday just happened. Recently met this
2:45
is I spent as a I was
2:47
working I was in clinic on. Matchday,
2:50
but I tried to spend as
2:52
much of the day as I
2:54
could liking tweets. On. Twitter.
2:57
Liking. The matchday tweets as one
2:59
of my favorite traditions. It's it's It's
3:01
an edge. It really is. It's like
3:03
it a day. On to it now
3:05
ex Twitter What I write: I'm subsidy
3:07
always call it Would Roads Will. It
3:11
it. It makes you feel like you're back
3:13
when like. The. Medical twitter community
3:15
was still really active in like a
3:17
very interesting. Now it's not so much
3:20
but it's a day when all these
3:22
med students who just match they they
3:24
they They post their their email, the
3:26
says they matched and how excited they
3:28
are to do whatever specialty it is
3:31
that they matched in and all of
3:33
these this there's thousands of them, thousands
3:35
of them and a lot of them
3:37
are there people that they they don't
3:40
really sweet that much for the don't
3:42
have a big following but every single.
3:44
Match a tweet there's there's
3:46
hundreds of like like they
3:49
get so much love from
3:51
the community, from the medical
3:53
community as from people outside
3:55
of medicine. A lotta times
3:57
Matchday ends up trending on
3:59
a on. Whether it's just it's
4:01
it's just a lot of fun and
4:03
so I've I've probably liked by like
4:05
five hundred different tweets every time I
4:07
saw that one of those matchday tweets,
4:09
I would like it. and it's just
4:11
a try to spread the love and
4:14
get get that energy and excitement going
4:16
because you can just feel it from
4:18
these posts from these med students. They're
4:20
They're just so excited. He worked so
4:22
hard to get to this point and
4:24
and others as they're all so happy
4:26
to to see that email. And.
4:29
As so I would it would it.
4:31
I thought I would do here at
4:34
the beginning before we get into the
4:36
die ball stuff is it's I made
4:38
me think about seeing all this all
4:40
the happiness maybe thing about the the
4:42
most the happiest days of my med
4:45
school years. Like what were the days?
4:47
the moments. The. Events where
4:49
I felt the happiest.
4:52
In. Med School. And. So I
4:54
wrote them down and monsieur I'm with
4:57
the of So we're going to go
4:59
from from Five my fist happiest day
5:01
that I can remember down to number
5:03
one guy. So we'll start with them
5:05
or five hour up at my white
5:07
coat ceremony and number five I still
5:09
remember a lot about it it was
5:11
I had a we we had our
5:13
way could ceremony Dartmouth did a little
5:15
bit differently. we have it of like
5:17
of about a month in to turn
5:19
to to to med school so we
5:21
already had the are made like or
5:23
friend group. San and we were really
5:25
get in the know each other as
5:27
classmates and we're getting into the. All
5:31
that the course work in everything's for
5:33
tagging in the swing of things that
5:35
we had arm or white coat ceremony
5:37
where we receive our short white coat
5:39
as opposed to the long white coat
5:41
that fully formed doctors get to. Where
5:43
are we as med students get to
5:45
wear a half size coat and me
5:48
on. I'm tall, I'm super lane Keith
5:50
and so it look like a quarter
5:52
sized code on me and so my
5:54
excitement. For that day the reasons number
5:56
five on my list is because makes
5:58
Imo was quickly tempered. The fact
6:01
that I looked like
6:03
a i'm a Giants.
6:06
Like. Person wearing a child sized coat.
6:08
It it's I looked ridiculous and I
6:10
realize oh I have to wear this
6:13
thing every time I go into the
6:15
hospital for those the out for the
6:17
foreseeable future So of it it was
6:19
very exciting has all the families there's
6:21
a lot of excitement we're starting this
6:24
this huge journey and where were all
6:26
very excited and and is looking forward
6:28
to turn to just getting into it.
6:30
Ah we have who had not been
6:33
beaten down by the medical system at
6:35
that point so it. Was just a very
6:37
exciting, very fun time. As number five
6:39
number for. Ah, I put
6:41
down. I'm walking out of
6:43
my general surgery rotation. That
6:46
was a happy day that
6:48
was fantastic. I spent eight
6:50
consecutive weeks on vascular surgery
6:52
which is a rough rotation
6:54
lives toward the beginning of
6:56
my third year so on
6:58
my first clinical rotations and
7:01
I still remember how I
7:03
felt that last day. Sensing
7:05
knowing I did a really
7:07
good job, I tried. I
7:09
worked hard. I worked very hard
7:11
as I really wanted honors. I really
7:13
wanted to. that was the one rotation
7:15
like. I wanted to get a good
7:17
recommendation from Ah because I was going
7:20
into a surgical feel ophthalmology and and
7:22
so I I am. I tried really
7:24
hard, I worked hard and an hour
7:26
but I I hated most of it.
7:29
Him. So I was ecstatic that final day when
7:32
I said when I the last thing I saw
7:34
on the last days or anything else I can
7:36
do for you. To. The fellow and
7:38
they're like now you should go home
7:40
Thanks for all your hard work And
7:43
I last and I just had this
7:45
the biggest giant smile on my face
7:47
as I left that rotation and got
7:49
to do something else. Finally! So that's
7:51
number for a number three of the
7:54
said the time I diagnosed a feel
7:56
chromosome Toma. These.
7:58
Sites The Things: These opera. It is
8:00
don't come along very often. Others are
8:02
you don't know what I feel. Chromosome
8:04
it is. It's an extremely rare tumor.
8:08
I. Don't even remember. I think it's on
8:10
the adrenal gland. It's it's it's just.
8:12
it's one of those. It's like a
8:14
joke diagnosis among med students as they
8:16
are. You going to diagnose the feel
8:18
like no one notices. No one does
8:20
it. It's it's it's This is one
8:22
these things that you learn about. Everyone
8:24
knows about appeal chromosome us but you
8:26
never see it and. Of
8:29
daggers it I I I I
8:31
suggested that this might be the
8:33
diagnosis on my internal medicine rotates.
8:35
I suggested this could be the
8:37
diagnosis or a patient and imaging
8:39
was done. The lab test the
8:41
cat a cola means were ordered
8:43
of a because it was a
8:45
reasonable thought and turns out that
8:47
pays it out of feel promo
8:49
site Toma it's It Left such
8:51
an impression on me that I'm
8:53
talking about it right now like
8:55
as of all the things I've
8:57
diagnosed in my life. Like that
9:00
is probably top of the list or
9:02
right and that again it's just like
9:04
you know as a med student you're
9:06
you're just you're trying to to contribute
9:08
and what for for his you can
9:10
And and so when I threw that
9:12
out there like part of he was
9:14
like oh i'm in the sound smart
9:16
by saying this But then I ended
9:18
up being right. Oh
9:20
man. I'm. Just A
9:22
right? I'm just and I'm still thinking
9:24
about. I'm just reveling in in my
9:27
in my intellectual prowess in that moment.
9:29
I didn't get a lot right A
9:31
during that rotation whenever I got asked
9:33
questions, but I got that one soused
9:35
as very proud of very proud of
9:37
myself in their moments. That was number
9:40
three the third happiest day of my
9:42
life of and as a Med student.
9:45
Or number two. Matchday: My.
9:48
Matchday. not everyone elses matchday.
9:50
So ophthalmology has a different
9:52
match odds only a couple
9:54
rotations, just that the deep
9:56
the ball centric specialties ophthalmology
9:58
and urology. How are we
10:01
do a separate match? ah which
10:03
is in January I believe it
10:05
was. It's much more anti climactic
10:08
then the that than than the
10:10
match that just happen in March
10:12
where all the other specialties figure
10:15
out that whether they master not
10:17
ah it's it's it's lot of
10:19
more low key but I I
10:22
remember getting the email. Seeing.
10:24
It a I'm the kind of
10:26
person like I'd I didn't want
10:29
anybody around me. I've seen tic
10:31
toc videos ah where he ever
10:33
has their family there and they're
10:35
checking the email or on camera
10:37
or and then again very excited
10:39
I doubt with i dove know.
10:42
I. My saw was like I need
10:44
to be. Alone when I
10:47
rice I find out either
10:49
yes, I matched all as
10:51
well. X
10:53
Ecstatic Ya is just very happiness all
10:55
around or of absolute shame that that's
10:57
that was my thought process at the
11:00
time is that I just I need
11:02
to be by myself. I don't want
11:04
to subject whatever energy was in that
11:06
room to other people and needed to
11:08
just in but this is the introvert
11:11
of me though. so anyway but it
11:13
either matching and ophthalmology and so is
11:15
very happy so as never to be.
11:17
That's why it's are too because as
11:19
a lot of stress lot of anxiety
11:22
involves around masses. Was not total happiness
11:24
all day is a lot of happiness
11:26
when you find out you match but
11:28
a a leading up to it it's
11:30
just a like your stomachs a nazi
11:33
want to throw up as dumb or
11:35
to number one graduation day. By.
11:37
Far I have. I still I
11:39
remember Azad either. I have all
11:41
the pictures with my classmates and
11:44
my family and and there's There's
11:46
no better energy than a commencement
11:48
ceremony like it is. It's I
11:50
don't merely member of like the
11:53
college that wasn't as big of
11:55
a deal to me. Med school
11:57
was a big deal and ends.
12:00
That I've been very fortunate to
12:02
be able to deliver some a
12:04
commencement addresses since I graduated med
12:06
school and I love doing. I
12:08
try to do one or two
12:10
every year if I have the
12:12
opportunity. And up the the just
12:14
the excitement, the energy. There's nothing
12:16
like it, there's it is just
12:19
pure happiness. Know there's there's There's
12:21
no bad vibes anywhere during commencement
12:23
for med school and so that
12:25
was a number one by far.
12:27
the has. So there you go,
12:29
My. Top Five Happiest happiest days I'm
12:31
at school. Okay let's take a quick break
12:33
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12:36
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All right so we are doing it
13:16
on on call summer out of of
13:18
like of fun name for for doing
13:20
this but about probably I'm guessing three
13:22
or three to four times a year
13:24
I'll do this we're just gonna. Go.
13:26
Through my call week ah that
13:28
I had on record tell you
13:31
when it's very important when talking
13:33
about things that really happen with
13:35
patients, aids or tell us to
13:37
other people time obviously everything that
13:39
we have a compliant so when
13:41
necessary I have changed details of
13:43
these things about tell you but
13:45
also it's really important to keep
13:48
it. Time. Immemorial. Like.
13:50
I'm not going to tell you I
13:52
had. My. Call week last week like
13:54
I just got off the call weeks
13:56
because it's better that you don't know
13:58
when it happened because honestly, It.
14:00
Doesn't even matter your was a two months
14:02
ago as a three months ago and I
14:05
can't tell you and you don't need to
14:07
know just know that it was in the
14:09
recent history of my life that I had
14:11
a week of call and I have are
14:14
we talked about it until now so I
14:16
had some interesting things to go on. is
14:18
actually a more interesting call week then I
14:20
hadn't quite awhile. Ah an interesting is not
14:23
always good when you talk about on call
14:25
so just die. They have tagged by the
14:27
city as before but. I
14:30
cover for different community hospitals
14:32
or nothing higher than a
14:34
level two trauma center. so
14:36
really bad traumas. Mostly open
14:38
globes though something. they will
14:40
typically go to the main
14:42
hospital. Occasionally
14:45
some trauma come sense and I'll get
14:47
to one of those as well. So
14:49
so. For community
14:52
hospitals plus. All.
14:54
Of my practices patients so it ends
14:56
up being mostly phone calls from patients.
14:58
They'll get a lot of those like
15:00
they have questions about their job so
15:02
he them on or they they had
15:04
surgery recently in there have been some
15:06
problem and or or their new home
15:08
their established patients and they have an
15:10
eye problems to have gone to the
15:12
emergency department they give us a call
15:14
which I always encourage people to do.
15:16
If you have an established relationship with
15:18
an eye doctor and you have something
15:21
that you don't feel as an emergency
15:23
but it's bothering. You liked. This
15:25
just called just call your office Dig
15:27
dig. They're going to have someone on
15:29
call for you. They will. They said
15:31
if they don't get that's that's not
15:33
great. I think all. All.
15:36
Physician practices should have some kind
15:38
of on call option for their
15:40
patience, but that's just me Saudi
15:42
what I was on call and
15:44
I'm the first base Lemme tell
15:46
you about his patient data Was
15:48
in a car accident. And
15:51
I got called because
15:53
the patient was no
15:55
light perception vision. So
15:57
remember. Them. Or how we checked
15:59
vision. Right You start with the the the
16:01
chart they can see the chart then you
16:04
gotta hand motion you wave your hand in
16:06
front of the patients face the can see
16:08
that or sorry you got a cow fingers
16:10
first the can see com fingers you gotta
16:12
hand motion they can do hand motions than
16:14
you hold on line front of their eyes
16:17
or the station could not see that like
16:19
they were know like perception vision and a
16:21
C T scan because the patient have a
16:23
trauma so they got it a city scans
16:25
showed that there was propped houses there was
16:27
bulging of the I am what looked like
16:29
a. Retro Bowl Bar: Hemorrhage.
16:32
So Retro Ball bar. that's.
16:35
The. Patient I came in, I got the call. And.
16:38
Of this is this is an interesting
16:40
one and I'll think I've talked about
16:42
this with regard to all the pants
16:44
patients. Why started doing is not like
16:46
I episodes we went over a lot
16:48
of the pants patients. we didn't do
16:50
a specific pants patient episode on Ritual
16:52
were him as others have you heard
16:54
have only been listening to this. These
16:57
episodes maybe does the first one you've
16:59
heard your bike was on earth as
17:01
a pain patients so I should probably
17:03
because I'm talking about the Zola or
17:05
this is a patients were am when
17:07
I. Get the call as the
17:09
on call ophthalmologist. It read it
17:11
and makes me put my pants
17:13
on to come in to see
17:15
the patient which is not that
17:17
frequent for an ophthalmologist start. So
17:19
it's notable is notable when a
17:21
pants space incomes and for me
17:23
so. Irritable bar
17:26
hemorrhage. Let
17:28
me just talk about. Physiologically.
17:30
What's happening and why this is such
17:33
an emergency? Or as so, a retro
17:35
bulb or hemorrhages act. exactly what the
17:37
sounds like. So retro behind Bowl Bar
17:40
I Okay, so. Behind.
17:42
Your eye is the orbit. The
17:45
orbit is surrounded by bones.
17:47
It's made up of bones.
17:50
Are. So it's like a little K's
17:52
the Orbiters and your I sits in
17:54
that case in behind the I within
17:56
that cave your ear you can think
17:58
of, your eyes. That's what the front
18:01
of the cave rights And so there's all
18:03
this space behind the I, which is. In
18:06
the orbit. And. That space
18:08
is enclosed by bony walls on
18:10
three sides. Up or four
18:12
sides, Up, Down, Left and right
18:14
is this Bonnie Orbits and all
18:16
lot of blood vessels. There's some
18:19
sat in there. there's nerves as
18:21
a ton of stuff behind the
18:23
I, all the courts, all the
18:25
things that plug your I into
18:27
your brain endured the urge to
18:29
cardiovascular system. All that stuff is
18:32
in the orbit. so the very
18:34
important structure. If you have
18:36
a major trauma what can happen as you can.
18:39
Break. Some of those blood vessels that
18:41
are in the orbit they can start
18:43
to bleed in if he a tear
18:46
an artery the of an arterial bleed
18:48
which is high pressure bleeding than that
18:50
orbit that space can still up with
18:52
blood. And you can
18:54
imagine if you're filling up an enclosed space,
18:57
it's going to increase the pressure. And
18:59
so what's gonna happen? As that blood
19:02
starts to fill up the orbit? It's
19:04
gonna start pushing the I forward. What?
19:07
we call propped hostess. The.
19:09
Problem is it can only push the
19:11
I. So. Far forward.
19:14
Before. The I can't go forward anymore.
19:17
Because. Member. The. I. Has
19:20
an optic nerve that connected to the
19:22
brain. Fortunately, There is
19:24
some redundancy to the optic nerve.
19:26
The optic nerve can stretch. Are
19:28
just like a ping pong ball with
19:31
a with a with a with a
19:33
with a string attached or it's you
19:35
can it can push it forward but
19:37
eventually that string that optic nerve is
19:39
gonna be taught. And the
19:42
I can't be pushed anymore forward
19:44
from the orbit or and so
19:46
what'll happen is the of that
19:48
pressure pushing on the ice and
19:50
it'll it a cut of what
19:52
happens is the I gets gets
19:54
trapped by the eye lids. And.
19:57
So it's kind of that the to think of the eyes as can be
19:59
getting. Mashed from all different directions,
20:01
it's gets being pushed against the
20:03
eyelids which aren't allowing the i'd
20:05
go forward anymore. That optic nervous
20:07
taught the I has nowhere to
20:09
go so it's gonna get compressed.
20:12
Silly get compressed. In
20:14
that increases the pressure inside
20:17
the. And. That's
20:19
what's called orbital compartment syndrome.
20:21
So retro bulb are hemorrhage.
20:24
Leaving behind the I causes an
20:26
orbital compartment syndrome or pressure go
20:29
sky high as that normal I
20:31
pressure. It's about eleven
20:33
to twenty. Ritual. Barbara
20:35
hemorrhage because you normal compartment syndrome
20:38
that can increase the pressure to
20:40
sixty seventy eighty. It only takes.
20:43
It. Takes minutes for you to permanently
20:45
lose your vision when you have.
20:48
A High pressure. Like debts it can.
20:50
You can start to really lose vision
20:53
very quickly because high pressure. It's a
20:55
pressure so high blood can't get into
20:57
the I said space just as diseases
21:00
lose all blood flow to the eye
21:02
and that's what causes things to the
21:04
I did gonna die off so. This
21:07
is a Penn Station but a different
21:09
way. This is the pants patient mostly
21:11
for the emergency physician. As I mean
21:13
as like almost all of their patients
21:15
are pants patients right? I mean there
21:17
are we? to the hopefully they're already
21:19
wearing pants because already there. but this
21:21
this this is of I don't know
21:23
what the equivalent of a pants Patients
21:25
For Murder Seasons of Physician. You guys
21:27
help me out with that. but it's.
21:30
This. Is this is basically it's not.
21:32
Is this the type of patient were you
21:34
treat? it? The. Emergency Physician a
21:36
really nice to be treated right then
21:39
and there. You can't wait for an
21:41
ophthalmologist to get out of bed, Drive
21:43
to the hospital and do and is
21:45
to be done for this patient. It's
21:47
gonna be treated faster than that. This
21:49
is like even more emergent than a
21:51
pan space or right there's no time.
21:53
it's gotta be treated before I can
21:55
even get there. In the way you
21:57
treat this. Emmerich as the
21:59
eye is being pushed forward but it gets
22:01
trapped by the eyelids. So what You gotta
22:04
do? Yeah. To remove the eyelid.
22:06
And. That's how you treat. Orbital.
22:08
Compartment Syndrome so is the lower
22:11
eyelid. He basically just take the
22:13
outside part of the eyelid. In
22:15
This it takes. Two. Seconds
22:17
to make a couple incisions
22:19
and just release the I
22:21
Live from. The. The
22:23
orbital bone right there. To. Can
22:25
feel the bone right on the earth hour
22:27
outside edge of your eyelid, your eyelids attached
22:29
to the bone and so you just. Just
22:32
make. A little incision, And that
22:34
allows that allows the eyes to push
22:37
forward a little more. That helps relieve
22:39
the pressure on the eye. And.
22:41
You can save someone's vision. So.
22:45
My. One of the as
22:47
he was the first I use a
22:49
Friday night I believe. Ah bad trauma,
22:51
a sad or block compartment syndrome and
22:54
city and I was actually getting the
22:56
call because we have wonderful very good.
22:59
Emergency Physicians and our community there
23:01
were calling me because they there
23:03
was an orbital compartment syndrome. Patients.
23:06
Are they had already treason. So they
23:08
did the lab. what's called a lateral
23:10
cantata Me Tampa Lysis They were they.
23:12
They just cut away that lower eyelid
23:14
and the I pressure was down to
23:17
like the twenty five thirty range which
23:19
is. Much much safer.
23:21
That's. Saving. Someone's vision. So
23:24
shoutout to that Emergency Physicians out to
23:26
all of this emergency Physicians who do
23:28
that because they don't do that very
23:30
often. As. I know, for fact
23:32
it's Very. It's a challenging thing for them
23:35
to do because they don't get that opportunity
23:37
to do that very often and as said,
23:39
scary as well. There
23:41
been a couple times when I
23:43
just happened to be in the
23:45
emergency department. Susan and training. ah
23:47
I just happen to be there
23:50
when a patient needed one and
23:52
everyone gathered around there was like
23:54
I was doing this. This lateral
23:56
cantata Me A has the ophthalmology
23:58
residents and like every emergency. The
24:00
position and the department was
24:02
like watching because it's rare
24:04
So. A way that was
24:06
exciting. I didn't actually do the treatment but
24:09
I heard about it afterwards and got their
24:11
patients to see me and clinic the next
24:13
day. Ah actually no sorry that one I
24:15
I went in to see that basin sorry
24:17
that's because it's still a pest haitian for
24:19
me. So I went and saw the patient
24:22
and as your made said looked for the
24:24
other injuries and everything so a way that
24:26
I was very exciting that was That was
24:28
like. That's. Enough for
24:30
one night. Really? That's enough for
24:32
a whole week to be honest.
24:34
the rest of the week when
24:36
pretty routinely. I had a viral
24:38
conjunctivitis case I got called about
24:41
an emergency department. That patient followed
24:43
up with me the next day.
24:46
And as that meal as interesting talk
24:48
about. ah but one thing was very
24:50
interesting. Ah, I had
24:53
an eyelash extension case.
24:56
I've. Been needing to talk about this for a.
24:59
Because. I'm so
25:01
I'm sitting this more and
25:03
more. Because the
25:05
eyelash extensions are very popular these
25:07
days, I think we all know
25:09
that we all see a lot
25:11
of people that have i like
25:14
extensions. Ah well, a lot of
25:16
sometimes. They end up in my
25:18
chair and my clinic or an
25:20
emergency department because they're having some
25:22
kind of problem. Reaction.
25:24
Typically as to the glue. The.
25:27
Glue for my last extensive less.
25:29
Talk about Glue. Eyelid,
25:31
Injuries Glue. Super Glue Eyelash.
25:34
Blue of this happens more
25:36
frequently than you'd think. I
25:38
bet a lot of emergency
25:40
physicians are listening probably have
25:42
seen this or some form
25:44
of this. so I'm. The.
25:46
Patient that I got called about well
25:48
as on call was a base who
25:51
had just at the earlier that day
25:53
had. Had eyelash extensions
25:55
done and the eyelids. words
25:57
were like swollen shut. So.
26:02
Those. Are you may not be familiar
26:04
with Alice extensions? basically the synthetic fibers.
26:06
That. Are at applied to
26:08
your natural lashes for this
26:11
is a cosmetic thing right?
26:13
So ah and. Usually.
26:16
Think to different ways to attach them
26:18
but the most common way too attached
26:20
is Alice. Extensions is using glue now.
26:24
Glue and the I does it
26:26
mix very well. Now there are
26:29
certain blues that we will use
26:31
during surgery. We use glue on
26:33
the I in fact but this
26:36
is special sino acrolein type like
26:38
as a special glue that safe
26:41
for the service of the I.
26:43
The glue that's use an eyelash
26:45
extensions is is not that and
26:48
so it's very important to keep
26:50
this blew out of the I
26:52
because it contains chemicals. Like
26:55
formaldehyde. even the lead.
26:57
Been zoellick acid. These are
27:00
not great for your mucus
27:02
membranes. In. Particular the
27:04
I Okay so ah.
27:08
Appease their patient. I can't come
27:10
in and was clearly having a
27:12
reaction to whatever glue was applied.
27:14
so. Let's
27:16
just go over some of the things that can
27:18
happen from this glue. So.
27:21
Basically. You. Can get.
27:23
It, it's It's like an allergy
27:25
sufferers are certainly. Oh, it's that.
27:27
That's one thing that can happen.
27:30
You can get an L Like
27:32
what we call an allergic bluff,
27:34
right? A spliff rises, inflammation of
27:36
the eyelid that the you get
27:38
redness, itchiness, irritation, swollen eyelids and
27:40
that can happen of hours. It
27:42
can even happened days after you
27:44
get the eyelash extensions applied. And
27:47
so the older like a said as
27:49
harmful chemicals formaldehyde I'd actually the look
27:52
it up. what's what's an. Eyelash
27:54
Glue freakin' Formaldehyde. It's
27:57
like when how you preserve frogs
27:59
and endured by high school science
28:01
class. I mean come on. Formaldehyde.
28:04
On the I as I kissed You gotta be kidding
28:06
me. Anyway, all these
28:09
allergies. these are all allergens. I
28:11
can cause your immune system to
28:13
go crazy and get real big,
28:15
swollen, irritated, itchy eyelids. You.
28:19
Can also get that glue can get
28:21
on the surface of the eye and
28:23
cause. Cause erosion
28:25
of the cornea. Ah it can
28:27
also cause you don't to permanently
28:29
lose your eyelashes. if the inflammation
28:32
get so deep and the eyelid
28:34
that it affects the hair follicles
28:36
you may have actually losing some
28:39
your eyelashes or it and thus
28:41
the opposite of what you want.
28:43
So the point is. With.
28:45
I like I'm not gonna go see her
28:48
until you shouldn't get i last extensions because
28:50
of. Their. There are worse
28:52
cosmetic procedures for the I out
28:54
there, and the vast majority of
28:56
places do it well and safely
28:58
to prevent any of that glue
29:00
from getting onto the surface of
29:02
the I or really even touching
29:05
the skin. I guess at that
29:07
that's really what you want, you
29:09
don't you wanna? Put those
29:11
I last extensions. Not right. On.
29:14
The skin of the eyelid a little bit
29:16
up above the skin so it's you're you're
29:18
just applying the glued to the i last
29:20
and not to the to your actual skin.
29:24
And. So most places do fine with
29:27
that. But. This. Is not
29:29
like a super well regulated thing
29:31
right? Like I don't know. I
29:33
I've never had them done. So
29:35
how do people choose what places
29:37
to get eyelash extensions? I don't
29:39
know. That
29:41
had you control for a what kind
29:43
of products they're using, what can a
29:46
glue they're using? I don't think there's
29:48
a way to do that. I'd I
29:50
don't know. So you can be really
29:52
careful and there's some some preventive things
29:54
that you can do that they can
29:56
help with. This. Are
29:58
you wanna avoid the big? The
30:00
thing is, avoid washing your face.
30:03
Or the first few hours after these
30:05
extensions are applied. That's one thing if
30:07
you're gonna get I extensions personally I
30:10
would say don't bother doing it, but
30:12
if you're gonna do it. You
30:15
want to avoid getting your face
30:17
wet for the first few hours
30:19
because it sometimes it takes. Like
30:22
four. Hours Six hours for the
30:24
this glue to to to solidify completely
30:26
and self Youths If you wash your
30:28
face you get water in your face
30:31
you go swimming or something than that
30:33
glue still liquid and it can it
30:35
can tell you get into the i
30:37
am cause lots of problems side so
30:40
does the biggest thing or and and
30:42
maybe like read the google reviews I
30:44
don't know talk to friends like go
30:47
to places that that you feel like
30:49
you can trust. I wish I had
30:51
a better. Way of helping you
30:53
determine how to trust. Likes an eyelash
30:56
extension place but I'm that as I
30:58
can help you there. Just do your
31:00
due diligence l I should say and
31:02
if you ever on the stance. Maybe
31:05
don't do it. I don't know because
31:07
I am me. I'm biased because as
31:09
an ophthalmologist, I see it when it
31:11
goes wrong and none of this is
31:14
like permanently scarring. That's why I'm not
31:16
like railing against a like I do
31:18
eyeball tattoos. You know nothing here is
31:20
going to have Ilyce extensions. even if
31:22
you have a reaction to them like
31:24
you're gonna be fine or I'd never
31:26
seen some would go blind or even
31:28
close to it from a reaction to
31:30
I last extensions. but it can land
31:32
you in the Emergency department because you're
31:34
you're You're. In pain and you're not sure
31:37
what's going on, but it's probably that people
31:39
are reacting to the glue. So.
31:42
The other of a as it
31:44
is also reminds me of the
31:46
other kind of glue injuries that
31:48
I have seen from time to
31:50
time which is a super glued
31:53
to the I super glue. Ah.
31:56
Yes, It is. It'll happen every so
31:58
often where someone will come in and. You
32:00
know, The most likely
32:02
reason is because they get their I
32:04
jobs mixed up with Superglue who had
32:06
spring is made for my eyeball tip
32:09
of the week. Don't keep your eye
32:11
drops in your superglue in the same
32:13
place in your house. If.
32:15
we have like a drunk just had drunk
32:17
a junk drawer which we all have a
32:19
junk drawer and right I got a doctor
32:22
just junk junk drawer to but it just
32:24
drawer of as it is not a place
32:26
where you want to keep stuff that you
32:28
are supposed to apply to your eyeball and
32:31
stuff you're not supposed applaud your i so
32:33
keep the that the i'd drop. Shaped.
32:36
Bottles away from each other. Unfortunately, a lot of
32:38
superglue bottles look kind of like eyedropper bottles and
32:40
so you get people that don't see very well
32:42
and they can grab the wrong thing. They put
32:44
a job a super glue and their i. Is
32:47
always really scares people. But you.
32:50
Might be surprised to know that even gorilla
32:52
glue like super like the super glue. that
32:54
stuff will not make it go blind. Worst
32:56
case scenario, you get a corneal abrasion. But.
32:59
Your I scared about it because what
33:01
was what's the first Syria? Do you
33:03
feel something going? Your I like oh
33:05
that's.in I drop. That's. Something else
33:08
you close right? As which
33:10
go, that's a reflex. You close your eye
33:12
on. what is that? you're trying to wipe
33:14
it away. but it's freaking super glue and
33:16
so it were. Acts very quickly and so
33:18
all the sun. oh. Crap. I
33:21
can open my eyes and people freak out.
33:23
So they go in emergency that we as
33:25
understandably right. Like if you don't know anything
33:27
about this you're going to be scared about
33:30
the so they freak out they go in.
33:32
And. Most I'd say most emergency
33:35
physicians are pretty good about that skill though.
33:37
Try that to open the I Emanuel eased.
33:39
Use their fingers to try to get the
33:41
eye open or if you can't get it
33:44
open. I've gotten calls about this. The
33:47
reason the I is is closed
33:49
and unable to open as because
33:51
it's just because the eyelashes are
33:53
glued down. The. Upper eyelashes
33:55
are glued down to the lower eyelid
33:58
or the eyelashes are glued together. So
34:01
it's not that the idol lid
34:03
is glued like onto the eye
34:05
and you can open is is
34:07
because the lashes are glued down
34:09
and so the easiest way to
34:11
get die open cystic. Caught
34:13
the eye lashes. Now. People are
34:16
gonna like the color sacrifice. My last know
34:18
grow back I promise I'll isis go back
34:20
but it off. If you just trim the
34:22
eyelashes you can get the eye open real
34:25
easy. Yeah. And then just rinse
34:27
the eye out. Login! That glue Il
34:29
is actually superglue as much closer to
34:31
the type of glue that we use
34:34
an eye surgery. Compared
34:36
to like eyelash extensive glue. That being
34:38
said don't That doesn't mean you can
34:40
use put Zuberbuhler in your i don't
34:42
do that like the never reason to
34:44
do that but my point is is
34:46
not have a glue that you're you're
34:48
not gonna go blind from it or
34:50
I'd so really no type a glue
34:52
you're going to go blind from arms
34:54
by by. just didn't even say that
34:57
because I don't give anybody reason to
34:59
feel complacent about glue and their i.
35:01
It's is a it's not a good
35:03
thing or I suggest just again. Don't.
35:06
Do that I will tip of the week
35:08
typically to who in the garage somewhere else?
35:10
where are you near not going to be
35:12
the or in his and nowhere close to
35:14
your I draw bottle. Or
35:16
it. That's about all I can tell
35:19
you about glue and the I. So
35:21
that was my colleague. Not too bad.
35:23
I went in twice over the course
35:25
of a week. And. I'm
35:28
sure there's gonna be people who have much busier
35:30
colleagues are like I can believe is complaining about
35:32
I'm not complaining you guys are not the plane
35:34
and I recognize. I'm. Very lucky.
35:37
I'm very fortunate also that I work
35:39
with extremely capable emergency positions that are
35:41
are able to take care of a
35:43
lot of things that we work well
35:45
together. I can help them out over
35:47
the phone to us. I can't easily
35:49
get the split lamp work and but
35:51
that's a whole other issue. Ah n
35:53
n they do great. They can take
35:55
care of a lot of things and
35:57
but you know I can then when
35:59
I need to a game and a
36:01
couple times. It's mostly the
36:03
phone cause lots of phone call them answer
36:05
and over the course of the week self
36:07
but again three weeks a year I can't
36:10
really complain so that's my colleagues. Ah thank
36:12
you all for listening. I'm your host Will
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