Diabetes education has positive effects not only on psychosocial and behavioral aspects of diabetes care, but also known to be a cost-effective treatment by reducing hospital readmissions and lowered risk for complications. Yet, many patients often do not receive DSMES (Diabetes Self-Management Education and Support) referrals. Listen to Nancy D’Hondt, a certified diabetes educator and registered pharmacist, Dr. Lillian Khor, a cardiologist and Dr. Jay Shubrook, an osteopathic family physician, discuss how they work with CDEs and the benefits found from referring patients to diabetes self-management programs and a certified diabetes educator.