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I'm

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sick of them posing as

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if they're the

0:09

good guys saying

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we are the

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bad guys, knowledge fight,

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knowledge fight, need money, Andy in

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Kansas, Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas,

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Andy

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in Kansas, it's

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time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're

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on the air, thanks for holding. Hello

0:52

everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm

0:54

Dan, I'm Jordan, I forgot who I was for a

1:05

second. We're

1:08

a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at

1:10

the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex

1:12

Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan,

1:15

Jordan, quick question for you, what's up? What's your bright spot

1:17

today buddy? Why don't you go first? My bright spot Dan

1:19

is over the weekend I spent Father's

1:22

Day

1:22

with my family, my

1:24

father specifically as you might

1:26

expect. We had a fantastic

1:29

time, there was some

1:31

barbecuing, there was some smoking

1:33

of ribs, there was plenty of talk, my brother,

1:36

he's trying to build a deck or

1:40

something, not completely finished and instead of stairs

1:42

he wound up with a ramp which my wife

1:50

slipped and fell down so it's a little bit of a mixed

1:52

bright spot and dark spot because she

1:55

really hurt herself. Oh man

1:57

it hurts so bad. I'm very sorry to hear that. Yeah,

1:59

yeah,

1:59

I got a huge bruise on my hand because I fell

2:02

immediately after her you are so

2:04

codependent Oh, no, no, no, no, you fell and then

2:06

you had to fall. No, no, no, it was even worse It was even

2:08

worse It was it was comical

2:11

in so far as she fell outside and

2:13

then when I went to check on her cuz I didn't

2:15

see any Of it happened. I went to check on her and they were

2:17

like what happened and they she fell and I

2:19

went what? exact same

2:21

way exact same way Story

2:25

of Everest it was a cartoon. It really

2:27

was Absolutely, oh

2:29

man,

2:29

was there more talk or more meat?

2:32

There was more smoked

2:34

meat. There's plenty They have

2:36

a membership That

2:39

shall not be named that gives

2:41

you large quantities of stuff. So

2:44

yeah, so they made way too much. Awesome

2:46

Yeah, how about you? What's your right spot? Well,

2:49

I just we just got a package indeed. We did

2:52

see in the mailbag and This

2:55

is so cool We

2:58

got this from Dave up

2:59

in Northern, Ontario Sent

3:03

the McDonald's glasses

3:06

from Batman forever the

3:09

set of the four glasses with Batman Robin

3:11

and face and And

3:14

they are I don't even know what

3:16

pristine condition would be for McDonald's

3:18

glasses, but these are in mint condition I'm

3:21

certain that like

3:23

We have to have talked about it

3:25

at some point Talked about but I can't

3:28

for the life of me remember when I but

3:30

I do I'm like I had these Maybe

3:33

not the whole set but I had I had

3:35

some of them and I

3:36

like when I was a kid Oh, no, we

3:39

we opened to the point.

3:41

It's such a child memory Yeah,

3:44

like these are so much smaller

3:46

than I remember Yeah

3:54

There's also a letter along here that

3:56

I unfortunately found right after I

3:59

You were a fan of them? It was all so much of me talking

4:02

straight. And so I

4:05

don't know if it explains when we talked

4:07

about it, but also just a fantastic

4:10

cartoon that has been

4:12

drawn of us here. Oh yeah, it's a nice comic

4:15

strip. A comic strip, yeah, not a cartoon. I guess

4:17

that's motion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

4:20

Thank you, Dave. I

4:23

have many lines, but most of them are

4:25

essentially, I'm Jordan. That's

4:29

well done, thank you so much. Our

4:33

past is coming back to haunt us. Honestly,

4:35

this may be something, I think I almost

4:37

remember us talking about this like 10

4:39

years ago, drinking at like 4

4:42

a.m. yelling at each other about how

4:44

great Batman Forever cups were. It might have been there

4:46

with somebody who just overhired us. It might have been podcasting.

4:48

Yeah, absolutely. Someone at that bar

4:50

that you took me to where they were playing

4:52

bingo. Yes, yeah, yeah,

4:54

yeah. They knew what was coming, and they recorded

4:57

our conversation. Right near Fullerton, yeah.

4:59

Yeah. So

5:01

Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Oh, indeed we

5:03

do. With that,

5:05

our last episode, the past, and

5:08

today we're gonna be talking about Tucker's second

5:10

episode of his Twitter

5:12

show. And part of the reason we gotta

5:14

record these in advance a little bit, because this week I'm

5:16

working on some housing stuff.

5:19

So, gotta knock

5:21

this out a little bit to give me free

5:23

up a little bit of time. You're moving on up.

5:27

To the east side.

5:29

Well, I mean, north east side. Hey,

5:31

don't talk to me, man. But

5:34

yeah, so I have a bit of that

5:36

business to take care of and stuff, and it's always

5:39

a hassle. It will probably be for

5:41

a little bit, but

5:43

we'll get to the other side of it and hopefully be

5:45

able to buffer it with some

5:48

episodes here and there. We

5:51

talked about the present day for a fucking

5:53

week and a half. I mean, what I appreciate most

5:56

about this is that this is us saying that we're

5:58

gonna need to take

5:59

some time off. You're only gonna get three

6:01

episodes this week. Yeah From

6:04

the past or Tucker's which is

6:06

what maybe we would have been doing anyway Enjoy

6:12

your time here No,

6:15

not really. I doubt it you'll Yeah,

6:18

so before we get down to business on Tucker's

6:21

episode to

6:22

Taboo boogaloo, okay.

6:25

I don't know. I'm trying to give it a title. Yeah,

6:28

they're for the episode itself sure I'm

6:30

stuck. I'm sticking with Tucker man

6:32

and his Twitter. Mm-hmm. Even though I've never seen

6:35

Tucker man in his dream I

6:37

know it's a movie. Hmm. Don't know what it's

6:39

about Tucker's

6:42

twit

6:43

twits

6:45

Tucker no can't do it Tucker's

6:47

man and his Twitter is about as good as yeah,

6:49

I think that's not too bad Yeah, I'm a fan of

6:52

bad titles. Mm-hmm as is evidenced

6:54

in all the things we've ever done Darius

6:57

Tucker's I It's

7:07

too late now, but it's

7:10

not too late to say hello to some new one.

7:12

Oh, that's great idea So first two guys one hammer.

7:14

Thank you so much. You are now

7:15

a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

7:17

Thank you very much. Next quimby in

7:19

Colorado is still waiting for Dan to sing Tarzan

7:22

boy and AJ's voice Thank you so much. You're now

7:24

policy wonk.

7:25

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Lights

7:28

I'm far away from nowhere on my

7:31

own like Tarzan boy Beautiful

7:34

light night and sleep. I

7:37

pray across the board a monkey business

7:40

out of Sunday afternoon Praise

7:46

sing it. Oh, okay next.

7:48

Thank you so much to Jan and dordon. You're

7:50

now policy wonk.

7:51

I'm a policy one Next

7:54

halcyon the beautiful unicorn. Thank you so

7:56

much. You're now a policy one. I'm a policy one.

7:58

Thank you very much and damn

7:59

to Grand Prix. Thank you so much. You are now a

8:02

policy wonk.

8:02

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And

8:05

we got a technocrat at the mix Jordan. So thank you so much

8:07

to Can Be An Anzis.

8:09

You are now a technocrat.

8:11

I'm a policy wonk. For stars, go home to

8:13

your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone,

8:15

someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy

8:18

Shark. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

8:20

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean

8:23

black action. He's a loser,

8:25

little, little kitty baby. I

8:27

don't want to hate black people. I renounce

8:30

Jesus Christ. I realize that

8:32

the lyric is a night in

8:34

sleep. It's hide and seek. Ooh. I

8:36

don't know what I panicked. Cold

8:39

reading this request trying to

8:41

remember the lyrics to Tarzan Boy. I think

8:43

you're okay. I think people will

8:45

probably not notice. That song, man,

8:48

that's a banger. Yeah.

8:51

I'll stand by it. Okay. It's better

8:53

than its appearance in Ninja

8:56

Turtles. Sure. And it's better than,

8:58

it's used as a Jungle Boy, a

9:00

wrestler, AEW. It's his

9:02

theme song. Better than that.

9:04

Okay. Better than all of it. Better than all of that.

9:07

Yep. Okay. So from

9:09

what I can tell, Tucker doesn't give names to

9:11

his Twitter shows.

9:13

And so you kind of just jump in and you're like,

9:16

I

9:16

wonder what this asshole's going to talk about today. Okay.

9:18

So it is, it is just a man

9:20

who turns a camera on and then shouts

9:23

for 10 minutes and then stops. But it's written.

9:25

You can tell it's written. Right. Right. Right. There's a

9:27

path that you're supposed to be going along.

9:29

Yeah. But

9:31

you never know what you're going to get. Okay.

9:33

It's really, it's like a box of C's

9:36

candies, except

9:38

those are labeled, I think. Yeah.

9:41

My mom and my grandma and my aunt,

9:43

I think those are the, that's the full list.

9:46

They loved C's candies. They're always around

9:48

like on holidays and stuff. Yeah. And I recently

9:50

found that you can order

9:52

bespoke boxes of

9:54

C's candies. Okay. You can specify

9:57

which ones you want in it. Oh, that's

9:59

perfect.

9:59

That's almost, I feel like that's almost in

10:02

defiance of the process. Exactly. And

10:04

thank God it is. That's wrong. No, no way. You're

10:07

supposed to buy a box of chocolates that goes half uneaten.

10:09

No, no, no, no. You should have little

10:12

bits of things that have holes in them

10:14

where you go, oh, this is gross. I'm probably gonna

10:16

order a box of Sees Gandy because

10:18

I can control it now. See, that's the problem.

10:22

Now you don't have to work for it. The

10:24

kids these days are weak. That

10:27

is not the subject of today's

10:29

Tucker monologue. But

10:35

maybe you can suss out what he's talking about.

10:38

Hey, it's Tucker Carlson. Let's say you

10:40

wanted to control a country. Hi

10:42

Tucker. How would you start? Well, you'd wanna make

10:45

sure you had the complete obedience of everybody

10:47

inside your borders who was authorized

10:49

to use deadly force. You would start with the military

10:51

and then federal law enforcement and move your way down

10:54

ultimately to agencies like the IRS.

10:56

Controlling the guns would be a top priority

10:59

for you if you ever wanted to go dictatorial,

11:01

if you wanted to be baby doc. But

11:03

let's say you had deeper ambitions. Let's

11:06

say you wanted the power not simply to control

11:08

people's behavior, but to control

11:10

how they think, not just their bodies, but

11:13

their minds as a God would. In

11:16

that case, you'd need to take charge of the society's

11:18

taboos. A taboo is

11:20

something that by popular consensus is not

11:23

allowed. A taboo may not be illegal,

11:25

but it doesn't need to be. Over time,

11:27

social prohibitions are more powerful and more

11:30

enduring than laws. Societies

11:32

are defined by what they will not permit

11:34

as are famously religions.

11:36

Muslims don't eat pork, neither do Orthodox

11:38

Jews. Traditional Christians oppose

11:40

extramarital sex, the Amish avoid electricity,

11:43

and so on. This is an interesting suggestion

11:45

as a way to start out an episode.

11:48

Ah, okay. Yeah,

11:50

you're frustrated. I'm already frustrated.

11:54

Why? Because I reject his premise. Okay.

11:57

I mean, let's say- You walk through it then. Let's say you want

11:59

to control a country.

11:59

All right? Gain

12:02

a monopoly over the most important resource.

12:05

Well, yeah, I mean, I think that...

12:08

Or, conversely, create

12:10

a weather machine. Well, I mean, there's that or, like,

12:13

you know... There's a lot of supervillain plans you could

12:15

come up with. No, I'm talking about, like, the Saudis being

12:17

complete control of oil. Then you

12:19

will have control of that country, and not just that

12:22

country, but you will have control of many other

12:24

countries as well that are dependent on that resource. Or at least heavy

12:26

sway, yes. Yeah, I'm talking about hydraulic despotism,

12:28

Dan. If you want to take control of a country,

12:31

I'm gonna tell you a little bit about a book called Dune.

12:33

All right? Oh, boy. Now, if you've got the melange,

12:36

the spice must flow! Heh heh heh

12:38

heh.

12:40

Who is the worm? Heh

12:42

heh heh. Oh, do you mean Lido too? No. God Emperor

12:44

of Dune? Dennis Rodman. Oh, okay.

12:47

So, I

12:48

think that you're right

12:50

in a sense. You know, like, that is

12:52

a very effective way to hold sway

12:55

over a country's policy and what have you. Yeah, yeah,

12:58

no. I think he's... He's making the false equivalence. I

13:00

think so. But I also think that, you know,

13:02

you wouldn't be able to have total control. I think

13:04

almost in any scenario. Even if

13:07

you owned all the police and all

13:09

the military and controlled

13:11

all of the cultural taboos, I don't think you'd

13:13

be able to have complete control over people's

13:15

thoughts and minds. No. But

13:18

I kind

13:18

of do gotta give it up

13:20

to him a little bit that I think that,

13:23

you know, social norms

13:25

and cultural, if you want to call it

13:27

taboos, are things

13:30

that lead often to law. Sure.

13:33

You know, like, things like the, you

13:35

know, changing opinions surrounding civil rights

13:38

led to codification of the Civil

13:41

Rights Act. Sure. It

13:43

flowed in that direction. And

13:45

so you could kind of argue that, you know,

13:47

cultural opinions

13:48

have more of a powerful

13:50

effect, you know? Um, I

13:53

mean, I suppose... I

13:56

think that's a question for whether or not

13:58

we are... I mean,

14:01

how about we ask it this way. Are we governed

14:04

or do we govern ourselves is the question.

14:06

Do you know what I mean? So if we govern ourselves,

14:09

then cultural opinions are laws.

14:11

You know, if we are governed, then laws

14:13

are laws and cultural opinions are really kind of

14:16

our own business. But now if it's possible

14:18

to force cultural norms and taboos

14:21

on people, then you're back to being governed.

14:23

There you go. But yeah,

14:26

and that,

14:27

this is circular. Exactly. A little bit. That's

14:29

the problem with it is because they come

14:31

from each other. They create each other. You know, the

14:34

the laws create the cultural taboos. The

14:36

cultural taboos create the laws and so on.

14:38

Yeah. And different cultures have different

14:40

cultural taboos, you know, within,

14:42

you know, different countries, different different places

14:45

and people being in conversation with each

14:48

other often affect those those

14:50

cultural. I think it's all fluid

14:53

and constantly ever changing. Indeed. But

14:56

also it's worth noting

14:57

that Tucker is saying at the end of that

14:59

clip,

15:00

it says a lot about what he thinks religions are. Yeah,

15:02

I know. Right. Just like things, the different

15:04

sets of things you can't do. Muslim Muslims

15:07

don't do pork. Christians don't have sex.

15:10

Everybody doesn't like electricity. Like, what are

15:12

you talking about? I think it's supposed

15:14

to be about like a connection to the divine. And

15:16

then.

15:17

Oh, no, it's just rules. No, no, no. It's rules,

15:19

Dan. It's things that you can't do

15:21

that I can do. And definitely

15:23

that list of things that Muslims, Christians,

15:26

everybody does. There's definitely no examples

15:29

of people in those religions constantly

15:32

doing those things, in fact, more frequently

15:34

than not. Sure. Yeah. So

15:37

we're going to, you know, talking up here, we

15:39

have the setup

15:40

that cultural taboos are

15:44

more important than law. Sure. And such controls

15:46

those. I'm going to go with as go the taboos

15:48

go the

15:50

I'm going to throw this out there. Uh huh. I

15:52

think it's going to be the libs who are causing the problem.

15:54

Oh, maybe. And

15:57

also he does get into.

15:59

some discussion of like child

16:02

abuse and stuff. So if you're, you

16:04

know, but sensitive about those topics, you might wanna

16:08

give this a pass because

16:11

he's going to talk about that for a little bit. You don't need

16:13

Tucker in your life. No, you're better off

16:15

without him. Yeah,

16:16

American society isn't overtly religious,

16:19

but it's governed by taboos and it always

16:21

has been. What's interesting

16:23

is how fast our taboos are changing.

16:26

This is not happening organically. What

16:29

we're allowed to dislike is being

16:31

dictated to us from above, sometimes

16:33

by force. Until fairly

16:36

recently, for example, it was taboo

16:38

in this country to attack people on the basis of their

16:40

race. That was the main lesson. Until

16:42

fairly recently? We were told again and again,

16:45

the one thing we learned from the Nazis

16:47

is that it's dangerous to reduce human beings to

16:50

their genetic code.

16:51

There is no master race.

16:53

That made sense, but apparently we no longer

16:56

believe it.

16:57

Punishing people based on their skin color is

16:59

not only permitted in modern America, it is

17:01

mandatory

17:02

throughout business and government and higher education,

17:04

as long as the victims are white. At

17:07

one time, that would have been unimaginable.

17:10

Okay. If

17:12

there's one thing we learned from the Nazis,

17:15

please let it be anything but just that. There

17:20

should be, I'm not saying that that's

17:23

not an important thing that we should have learned from the

17:25

Nazis. I think we should have learned it elsewhere. I

17:27

think we should have been there way before. Yeah.

17:31

That's

17:32

a real weird articulation

17:34

of a thought. The way that that man

17:37

thinks. And here's why it's even

17:39

more disconcerting to me than with Alex.

17:41

With Alex, it's chaotic

17:44

flying through the brain sphere. Who knows

17:46

where it's gonna land on the Plinko board. It

17:49

could go anywhere. Good job, good job, good job. Oh,

17:51

we got $500 this time, you know that kind of thing. Tucker

17:54

had to have sat down

17:56

and organized his thoughts into

17:59

this.

17:59

Yeah, and in theory

18:02

in collaboration. Yeah with writers

18:05

or you know what? It's the difference between like

18:07

you see somebody who's just winging a stand-up

18:09

set Yeah, and like maybe things go off the

18:11

rails a little bit It's

18:13

not that it doesn't really reflect that poorly

18:16

on you if it wasn't all that funny You know

18:18

maybe yeah you win some you lose some when you're just

18:20

making it up on the spot Yeah, you wrote something

18:22

down

18:23

that hurt you'd hope it's a reflection

18:25

of your effort exactly Yeah, you

18:27

can value yourself by how much work you

18:30

put into the words you wrote down and

18:32

this is that that 50 seconds

18:35

was Interesting yeah, it's

18:38

so much like

18:39

until recently you couldn't

18:42

You know be right. I mean I yeah,

18:44

there's so many like little thing I want to dive

18:46

into each collection of three words in a row

18:48

and be like can you unpack a mind

18:51

that thinks this makes sense? Well because you also

18:53

have like even at the beginning the introduction of the

18:55

premise that he's saying I disagree with that

18:58

like things are being forced from top-down Telling

19:01

you what you can or can't like and dislike

19:03

it's like I sometimes by force I get

19:06

it you want to hate certain groups you

19:08

can we're just gonna criticize you for

19:10

it right it's illegal

19:11

We're going to be mean to you

19:13

yes for your meanness These

19:19

are the things that happen when you're a piece of

19:21

shit that's not dictated from on high no You

19:24

are being responded to yeah, yeah,

19:27

and I think that he's just Trotting

19:30

out an old sort

19:32

of Affirmative action

19:35

yeah Complaint there I

19:37

do appreciate that

19:40

He's he's already like

19:43

you know when we were talking about euphemisms And

19:45

how that's kind of messed with our ability to understand

19:48

what people actually mean in the same

19:50

way Tucker has found such a strident

19:52

and and like a Arrogant way

19:55

to wine like a little baby. Yeah, you

19:57

know like just like uh Wow

19:59

Waaah! WAAAAAAAH! That's

20:02

why you worked with a bow tie. I mean, I hate

20:04

to keep going back to that. It makes sense. Yeah.

20:07

It really does. He has like a very cherubic, I'm

20:10

a whiny baby, but you know, you can take me

20:12

seriously, I guess? I don't know. Someone

20:14

takes me seriously, but I am a cherubic

20:16

little baby. You're a little baby! He's a little whiny

20:18

baby. Yeah. Yeah. I

20:20

also jumped the gun with my content warning. Uh oh. It's

20:22

coming a little bit later, but anyway. So

20:25

we got these norms, they're creeping. Sure.

20:28

One time that would have been unimaginable.

20:31

So with the current behavior of our politicians,

20:34

as recently as the 1992 presidential campaign,

20:37

adultery was considered disqualifying

20:39

for anyone seeking higher office. Bill

20:42

Clinton was very nearly derailed in the

20:44

presidential primary by his affair with Jennifer Flowers.

20:47

Clinton went to elaborate lengths to lie

20:49

about the relationship because he had no

20:51

choice. But he was the last presidential

20:53

candidate who had to meet this standard. By 2008,

20:56

it was obvious to anybody who was paying

20:58

attention that Barack Obama had a strange

21:00

and highly creepy personal life. Yeah,

21:02

yeah, sounds right. We know the other person about it.

21:05

By that point, a leader's behavior within his

21:07

own marriage, the core relationship of his

21:09

life, had been declared irrelevant.

21:11

It was Barack Obama's business, not yours. What?

21:16

Oh, man. Obama had a strange

21:18

and creepy personal life. I guess.

21:21

And no one asked about it? No one ever asked a

21:23

thing about Obama's personal life. What are you talking about?

21:25

I'm telling you this right now. No one knows anything

21:28

about Obama's personal life. No one ever demanded

21:30

multiple versions of his birth certificate. Who would have

21:32

asked for it? Nobody. Nobody even thought to ask

21:34

those questions. Nobody made documentaries

21:36

claiming that his dad wasn't his dad. We

21:39

were so young back then. We didn't know to

21:41

ask these follow-up questions, Dan. We

21:43

just saw him and we went, oh, we believe

21:45

you. How

21:46

could we have been so foolish and

21:48

naive, Dan? I mean. Oh

21:51

my God. Dan? Ridiculous.

21:54

Dan. Yeah.

21:54

Yeah. politicians

22:01

in the United States. I guess it was

22:03

in the sense that like you didn't talk about it. You didn't talk

22:05

about it. Yeah. And it was in the sense that

22:07

they didn't report on it out of being nice

22:09

to you.

22:10

Right. So actually the cultural

22:13

norm is we just didn't talk about that

22:15

shit. Protect people from the consequences

22:17

of their actions. Yeah, and so maybe if you wanted

22:19

to say that. Yeah, that I think is what

22:21

he wants. Yeah, we didn't we

22:24

didn't hold our leaders to any kind

22:26

of personal life standards. So

22:29

it's actually a little bit different. But

22:31

also, hey ding dong weren't you the

22:33

guy who was a super into Trump?

22:36

I mean, I don't. So come on and

22:38

then get off that high horse. Furthermore, how

22:40

we

22:43

had a president named Jack

22:45

Kennedy, my friend. Yeah, we had a president

22:48

who did the fucking. Yeah, he did. And

22:50

he had a bad back and he still went

22:52

for it. That's how fucking crazy you have

22:54

to be to be president. He was committed. He was he

22:56

was down for it. Yep. Yep. So

22:58

here's where things get messy. Yeah, our taboos.

23:01

They're falling apart. Sure. Everyone is

23:03

just,

23:04

you know, going along with

23:06

everything or something. What decade are we in one

23:09

by one with increasing speed? Our old

23:11

taboos have been struck down. Those

23:13

that remain have lost their moral force

23:16

stealing,

23:17

flaunting your wealth, striking

23:19

women. I'm sorry. I want to on the

23:21

street. Shameless public hypocrisy.

23:24

Taking other people's money for not working.

23:26

Are you fucking with me? These things used to be considered

23:29

unacceptable. Are you fucking with me? Not anymore.

23:32

So it probably shouldn't surprise us. The

23:34

greatest taboo of all is teetering

23:37

on the edge of acceptability.

23:39

Child molestation. A

23:41

generation ago, talking to someone

23:43

else's children about sex was widely considered

23:45

grounds for a thrashing. Touching

23:48

them sexually was effectively a death

23:50

penalty offense. What is happening?

23:52

I think he's fucking with me. He might be. He's

23:54

personally fucking with me. He literally just said

23:58

flaunting your wealth. And taking my

23:59

for not doing work. That's bananas.

24:02

I have a point I want to make about that

24:04

list that he had there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's

24:07

a lot going on in there. There is a lot. But

24:09

if you look at that list, he has six

24:11

examples of these norms, and

24:13

two don't really fit the mold

24:16

that I would categorize these in.

24:18

Right. Shameless public hypocrisy isn't

24:20

really a taboo because shameless hypocrites just

24:22

pretend that they aren't shameless hypocrites and

24:24

their audiences don't care. Exactly. This

24:27

has probably always been the case. We're just inundated

24:29

with so much more media now, and social media ends

24:31

up giving rise to many more invasions of people's

24:33

privacy, which allows you to see their hypocrisy.

24:36

Yeah, I mean, you figure you're in the Acropolis,

24:38

and there's probably a bunch of assholes yelling stuff at you

24:40

all day. Yeah, sure. Or like,

24:43

you know, Walter Cronkite. Yeah. What

24:45

was he up to? He

24:46

didn't have a Twitter. Lord knows. He

24:48

could've been anywhere. So the other one that doesn't really fit is

24:50

striking women. I think, generally

24:52

speaking, most people still feel pretty negatively towards

24:55

hitting women. Personally, I'm not a fan of anyone

24:57

getting struck, but what Tucker is talking

24:59

about here is assault. Yeah. I

25:01

don't think anyone's making that better.

25:03

I don't recall that being a taboo that

25:05

we were concerned about. We were always

25:08

like, yes, the law says don't hit.

25:11

I mean, when I was a kid, it was don't hit. Right.

25:13

And I think what he's talking about is like

25:16

domestic violence, maybe. Or

25:18

no, actually, if I had to guess, I'm

25:20

gonna bet that what he's trying to signal

25:22

to is like trans women

25:25

in fighting sports. I think

25:27

it has to be something like that. Yeah. That

25:29

has to be what it's a signifier for, but

25:32

society still is quite against.

25:34

Yeah.

25:35

It's something that they would know a

25:37

reference to that we do not because we're

25:39

not that

25:40

undated with their lunacy. That's

25:43

the closest I can get with some of their talking points. But

25:45

still, the point remains, it doesn't really fit the mold

25:47

of the rest of these. Because the other ones

25:49

that he listed, they fall into a particular

25:51

category that you could call things that society

25:54

decided to look down upon because they were associated

25:56

with marginal groups, mostly the

25:58

poor. Steeling has never been taboo

26:01

in this country as long as you're rich. Corporate

26:03

theft and wage theft have been the order of the day for

26:05

generations, and if anything, the prevailing

26:07

attitude towards the rich people who did the stealing

26:09

was of aspiring to be like them. The

26:12

people who were stigmatized because of stealing were the people

26:14

who had to steal to survive. That

26:17

was the taboo. Needing to steal.

26:20

Flaunting your wealth has also never been taboo

26:22

so long as you're rich. It's only taboo

26:24

to flaunt your wealth or to be perceived to be if

26:26

you're a member of a group that society expects to

26:29

be poor. Consider the example of the

26:31

editorials about millennials needing to stop buying

26:33

avocado toast. If you aren't rich,

26:36

showing any signs of affluence would typically cause

26:38

accusations of irresponsibility or even

26:40

make people suspicious. Like Master P

26:43

said on More to Life from Delast

26:45

Dawn,

26:45

the feds follow me like I'm slinging crack wasting

26:48

tax dollars because I'm young, rich, famous, and black.

26:51

The

26:51

ghetto's got me crazy. Yeah, no. I

26:53

mean, that is an entirely appropriate use

26:55

of that reference. Yeah. People

26:58

society expects to be rich can buy

27:00

castles, but for people society

27:02

expects to be poor, you must be a criminal if

27:04

you're driving a nice car. Smoking

27:06

weed on the street has also probably only

27:09

been taboo because of the history of how propaganda

27:11

about the drug was used to malign black and hispanic

27:14

populations and the criminalization

27:16

of it was the driving force of a drug war that

27:18

needlessly destroyed countless lives. Smoking

27:20

tobacco

27:21

on the street isn't taboo and yet you're theoretically

27:23

causing harm to the people around you. Marijuana

27:26

is no less of a drug and you can drink coffee

27:28

on the street. Yep. Marijuana was seen

27:30

as the drug of the lower classes, dangerous

27:32

classes, not like the aristocratic cocaine

27:35

and that legacy lived on through that taboo.

27:37

Yeah, in the same way that crack is not cocaine

27:40

and yet, and yet. Taking other people's

27:42

money for not working is Tucker's way of saying

27:44

accepting social assistance. Again,

27:47

this is only an issue when you're poor. If

27:49

you need help and accept that help, you

27:51

take on a stigma. When you're a big corporation

27:53

or a rich asshole and you profit from subsidies

27:56

or government largess, you don't take on

27:58

any of that stigma. If you're a landowner

28:01

who takes a paycheck from the government for not

28:03

using your land to grow crops like a friend of mine

28:05

from my childhood's dad did, you don't

28:07

get scolded for taking other people's money for

28:09

not working.

28:10

Society doesn't have a taboo against taking

28:12

public money for not working. It has a taboo

28:15

against being in a position where you need

28:17

help.

28:18

And stigmatizing that. Yeah,

28:20

I mean... Tucker is

28:22

guilty of all of those. Simultaneously.

28:25

And most especially the taking money for not working

28:28

thing. He's still getting paid by Fox News! Well

28:30

maybe that... We'll see on that

28:32

one. I know, but that's fucking spitting

28:35

in your face.

28:36

Taking money for not working... Come on,

28:38

come on! But largely that list

28:40

is just a mess. Four of the examples

28:42

are really only things that are conditionally

28:45

taboo. And the other two things are hitting women

28:47

and being a hypocrite. No one really cares

28:49

if someone's a hypocrite and hitting women is still very

28:52

much not... Uh... Smiled

28:54

upon by society. Yeah. The other four

28:56

examples are things where it's becoming less

28:58

stigmatized to be in a marginalized class.

29:01

And to do the thing that rich people have been doing all

29:03

along. Yeah. The issue with the way

29:05

Tucker is using this list is that he tries to transpose

29:08

this diminishing of these taboos onto the idea

29:10

that child molestation is a taboo that's falling.

29:13

This is ridiculous and pretty offensive on its

29:15

face. The argument fails

29:17

in a bunch of ways. But what's important here

29:19

is to track the argument that Tucker is

29:21

making and how it flows. Here

29:24

he's set up an establishing point, which is that

29:26

society's taboos are eroding in their moral

29:28

force and that means that child molestation

29:30

will soon lose its status as

29:33

unacceptable to society.

29:35

So that's where we

29:36

are. That's sort of the

29:38

base which this house is going to

29:40

be built on. Right. And by the way, when I said

29:42

house right there, I want to point this out. I

29:45

knew that house was Holmes. Sherlock Holmes.

29:47

Oh my god. I understood that. Oh my god. I've

29:49

gotten some feedback on this. I don't need this.

29:52

My disagreement was with who was Watson. I

29:54

get it. I get it. I understand Wilson's name is close

29:56

to Watson. I can get it. Alright.

30:01

Okay. So

30:04

you probably will have no ability

30:06

to predict where

30:08

this train of argumentation leads.

30:11

Because it's...

30:13

I mean... Serpentine

30:16

comes to mind. I'm gonna

30:18

go with... I wanna

30:20

say this is going to somehow be something to

30:22

do with TV. Hmm. Not

30:25

really. No. Okay. Dang. No.

30:27

Um, but here we go. When Jeffrey

30:29

Dahmer was bludgeoned to death in the bathroom

30:32

of a Wisconsin prison in 1994, the

30:34

Milwaukee District Attorney had to caution the public

30:37

not to turn Dahmer's killer into a folk hero.

30:40

Jeffrey Dahmer had molested and murdered children.

30:43

People felt justified in celebrating his

30:45

death. Twenty-five years later,

30:48

that standard had changed dramatically in

30:50

the state of Wisconsin, as in the rest of the country.

30:53

In the summer of 2020, during the BLM

30:55

riots in Kenosha, 17-year-old

30:57

Kyle Rittenhouse defended his life from

30:59

a convicted child molester called Joseph Rosenbaum.

31:02

This is amazing. Rosenbaum was trying to kill Rittenhouse,

31:05

so Rittenhouse shot him in self-defense. Ah.

31:08

But it was Joseph Rosenbaum whom the

31:10

media cast as the victim of the story. Um...

31:13

Kyle Rittenhouse was an underage

31:15

boy fending off violence

31:16

from a child molester. Excuse me? Was

31:19

denounced as the villain.

31:20

Ultimately, he was indicted for murder.

31:22

One of the things that this tells us is

31:24

that people who run our country no longer see

31:27

child molesters as the worst among us. I

31:30

did not see that coming. Right? I

31:33

was not expecting for the...

31:36

of all the... listen, we've heard

31:38

them associate child molestation with literally

31:40

everybody at this point. I still was not

31:43

expecting them to somehow be like, See, Rittenhouse

31:45

is not a murderer. That was just out of my mind.

31:47

That's out of my mind. I did not see that coming. I

31:49

guess his complaint is that people didn't

31:51

celebrate

31:52

the death of one of the guys that he killed.

31:55

I suppose. What? What are we doing? So

31:58

Tucker conveniently leaves off...

31:59

there that Rittenhouse was acquitted of that

32:02

charge, and that he's made a bunch of

32:04

money off his killings and has generally faced

32:06

minimal consequences. No! Before

32:09

we get into any of that clip, let's keep track of

32:11

this argument. In this section, Tucker is

32:13

trying to provide evidence for his conclusion that

32:15

child molestation is no longer taboo. The

32:18

evidence is that people wanted to make Jeffrey Dahmer's

32:20

killer a folk hero, and people were mad

32:22

at Kyle Rittenhouse.

32:24

That's not good evidence. For one thing, Dahmer

32:26

did a whole lot more than molest children. He

32:28

ate them. He did eat people. Eating

32:31

people is a bit of a... I would

32:33

argue that's a bigger taboo than most. He

32:36

was killed in prison, and it's always

32:39

a good policy for officials to not condone

32:41

murders taking place in custody for human

32:43

rights issues. Plus,

32:46

you have to remember that anyone who would

32:48

be in jail at the same place as Jeffrey Dahmer

32:50

probably isn't a great person to uphold as a

32:52

folk hero, since they

32:54

almost certainly would be a murderer themselves

32:56

prior to the murder of Dahmer. The

32:59

person who killed Dahmer may have killed him because

33:01

of his crimes, but he also killed another

33:04

inmate at the same time, so it might have just been a violent

33:06

flare-up that we're attributing to Dahmer's crimes

33:08

so that we can have narrative satisfaction of feeling

33:10

like Dahmer got what he deserved. The

33:12

other guy this inmate killed was just in jail for

33:15

killing his wife, so who knows. The

33:19

Rittenhouse situation doesn't really track well to this,

33:21

and Tucker's argument really only works if you

33:23

assume

33:24

that Dahmer was killed in jail because of his crimes,

33:26

and that Rittenhouse killed Rosenbaum because

33:28

of his past crimes. Otherwise

33:30

the crimes become kind of superfluous.

33:33

There's only one way of looking at this, which I think

33:36

is what Tucker is doing, there's one

33:38

other way, which is to say that you can post-hoc

33:40

justify any violence committed against someone

33:43

if their past is bad enough. Joseph

33:45

Rosenbaum had done time for molesting children,

33:47

so there's no moral consideration for

33:50

shooting and killing him, even if you had no

33:52

idea who he was at the time of the shooting.

33:54

It's a horrific way to approach any

33:56

ethical or legal structure, and Tucker fucking

33:59

knows

33:59

This is absurd. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:02

No, I mean, because here's his argument

34:04

though, and I'm going to personalize

34:06

it, and it might seem extreme, but

34:09

if I shot and killed Tucker, right,

34:11

and then he's dead, I murdered him, but

34:15

what if we find out that Tucker had molested

34:17

a kid in the past, then I'm fine, I'm a hero.

34:19

According to the way that he's- Yeah,

34:22

and I don't have to know this. I do not have

34:24

to know this in advance whatsoever. If I

34:26

go and murder somebody, doesn't matter.

34:29

As long

34:29

as I think in their past, or even

34:31

if I don't care, as long as we find out

34:33

later in their past, then I'm a hero. Well,

34:35

the thing is, the veneer

34:37

of self-defense and stuff comes into

34:40

it too, so you'd have to somehow have Tucker

34:42

coming at you. Well, I mean- Well, he could be unarmed,

34:44

because Rosenbaum was unarmed. Exactly. So

34:47

there could be that. I mean, now that we know what his past was, I can

34:49

recontextualize him even looking at

34:51

me as something by way of saying that,

34:53

oh, see, the way that Tucker looked at me reminded

34:56

me of the way he looked at the kid that he molested 20 years

34:58

ago. So it's totally fine that I shot

35:00

him.

35:01

I mean, it's a mess. And even

35:03

if you accept this argument that

35:06

Rittenhouse was shooting him in self-defense, it's

35:09

a little bit,

35:10

I'm gonna say, a lot of a bit of a dramatic

35:13

overstatement to say that he was defending his life

35:15

or describing Rittenhouse as, quote, an underage

35:17

boy fending off violence from a child molester.

35:20

That's ridiculous. Yeah, that's absurd. Tucker

35:22

is intentionally distorting the situation in order

35:25

to suit his premise that child molestation is no

35:27

longer taboo. Because society thinks

35:29

it's not cool to kill an unarmed person at a

35:31

protest and that people deserve

35:33

moral consideration regardless of past crimes,

35:36

that means that the powers that be are fine

35:38

with child molesters now. This is beyond

35:41

nonsensical. And that's not even considering

35:43

that Rittenhouse also killed Anthony Huber, who

35:46

Tucker doesn't even bring up because he can't hand-wave

35:48

away his human rights. Yeah, that one's tougher. So

35:50

cultural taboos, mostly around stigmatizing

35:53

the poor or falling, and that has led to child

35:55

molestation becoming socially acceptable as

35:57

evidenced by people being mad at Kyle Rittenhouse,

36:00

killed a guy who it was later determined

36:02

had been arrested for child molestation. This

36:05

is solid stuff

36:06

and we're not even close to done. Yeah I mean

36:08

I will say that it

36:11

is hard to imagine this

36:14

type of insanity right compared

36:17

to what we've been doing for so long. This

36:19

is a weird weird type of insanity.

36:22

Yeah it's not to say that it's more insane. No

36:24

no no no. It's different. It's a flavor

36:26

of insanity that I think is easy

36:28

to maybe let go unnoticed because

36:30

it seems so much more innocuous.

36:33

I think in in language and delivery.

36:35

Yeah a lot of the aesthetics of it. Yeah yeah

36:38

yeah. You can kind of ignore.

36:39

Superficially it seems like a

36:42

TV broadcast like you would otherwise

36:44

see and so that can kind of hypnotize you into

36:46

avoiding that these are completely

36:49

unrelated insane connections. Yes.

36:51

Like these are unrelated. Yeah. I

36:54

mean it's bonkers.

36:55

The messaging is absurd

36:57

and dangerous. Yeah. And then what is being

37:00

said doesn't track. No.

37:02

I

37:02

mean it's crazy. It is. It is crazy.

37:05

So he has another reason

37:07

here. Okay. One of the things that this

37:09

tells us is the people who run our

37:12

country no longer see child molesters

37:14

as the worst among us. That's

37:16

not been more obvious than it was yesterday when

37:18

the Wall Street Journal

37:19

ran a long expose about kiddie

37:21

porn on Instagram.

37:23

Instagram the journal found quote

37:26

helps connect and promote a vast network

37:28

of accounts openly devoted to the commission

37:30

and purchase of underage sex content.

37:33

Okay so it's meta. Instagram connects pedophiles

37:35

and connects them to content sellers. So it's a

37:37

private corporation.

37:39

In one instance the paper discovered that Instagram

37:41

was recommending the phrase incest

37:44

toddlers to users who'd expressed interest

37:46

in similar material. Right. Private corporations.

37:48

By the way no one at Instagram denied that any of this had

37:50

happened

37:51

nor did Mark Zuckerberg who controls the company.

37:53

Right. The journal story was accurate.

37:56

It was all pretty shocking but

37:58

not as shocking as what happened. Next, which

38:01

was effectively nothing at all.

38:03

So we talked about this story when Alex covered it, but

38:05

now we're seeing some of the concrete topical overlaps

38:07

between Alex and the most important man

38:09

in the world. As we follow this argument,

38:12

Tucker is now asserting that the powers that be

38:14

don't view child molesters as the worst of the worst

38:16

because the Wall Street Journal reported on this

38:18

Instagram stuff and nothing was done. But

38:21

that's not entirely true. In the wake of

38:23

this revelation, Meta set up a specific task

38:25

force to address this and provide more human-based

38:27

moderation, as well as blocking certain

38:30

search terms and hashtags. That's

38:32

definitely not enough, and it's probably a fundamental

38:34

problem with social media sites as a whole. There's

38:37

so large, so many users, with so

38:39

many, only so much

38:41

moderation capability, that people who wanna

38:43

do horrific shit will probably continue to

38:46

find ways to get around those rules. Even

38:48

if that is the case, that just means that the

38:50

people running those sites have to dedicate far

38:53

more resources towards being aggressive than

38:55

their approach towards moderation. Try to be one step

38:57

ahead. Meta has said that they're gonna do

38:59

that, but

39:00

we'll see. I'm not sure, I don't

39:02

know how much faith we

39:05

can have in that as

39:07

a private company. And because

39:09

too

39:10

restrictive of a way

39:13

to, let's

39:15

say, for instance, they wanted to try and cut

39:17

down on all this stuff by requiring a social security

39:19

number, or some kind, like Twitter

39:22

did with the verification, or

39:24

something, that is going to cut down on

39:26

your user base, which cuts into your overhead.

39:29

So trying to fully safeguard

39:32

this stuff, things that they could do,

39:34

unfortunately, run into their

39:37

bottom line. So they'll do things that'll try

39:39

to help,

39:40

and ideally, hopefully, will help. But

39:43

as long as the motivation and their primary

39:46

reason to exist is financial, they

39:49

can never really actually solve

39:51

the problem. Yes, you have understood

39:53

exactly why capitalism is

39:55

an issue. Market

39:58

forces determine that there will...

39:59

be this child exploitation material

40:02

on Instagram.

40:03

Or at least it'll always be like a

40:05

real risk. Well, I mean, it will be there. Yeah. I

40:08

mean, market force is determined. That's what we've decided

40:10

is an acceptable way to describe things. And it's,

40:13

yeah, it's bad, but I don't

40:15

think that this means anything about

40:18

prevailing social attitudes towards it.

40:20

I mean, honestly, if he would like to have

40:22

a conversation about that and

40:24

changing the idea of a structure that allows

40:27

this implicitly, in fact

40:29

encourages it in many forms, then

40:32

we can talk about that. But I don't

40:33

think that he really wants to dismantle

40:35

the entirety of the economic system.

40:38

But that's just me. Well, I

40:40

mean, I look forward to you and Tucker

40:42

sitting down with Rogan and

40:45

debating this out.

40:46

I think it'll be interesting to see if he wants to dismantle

40:48

the entire state. So

40:51

here we take another bit

40:53

of a pivot. Like you can see

40:55

this is moving all over the place. And

40:58

here's this was jarring.

41:00

Of course, everybody at Instagram, in fact, everyone

41:03

everywhere in authority will still claim

41:05

to think that child molestation is bad, but

41:07

the tone has changed unmistakably.

41:10

When they say it's bad, they mean it in a kind of abstract

41:13

way. Bad like a civil war in

41:15

Central Africa is bad.

41:17

You wouldn't prefer it, but there are reasons it happens.

41:20

What? That's what we now refer to pedophiles as

41:22

minor attracted persons, because honestly, who

41:24

can judge. These people are a sexual

41:26

minority, so pause before you attack them.

41:30

And in any case, it's not like pedophiles are barging

41:32

into the Capitol building to sit in Nancy Pelosi's

41:34

chair. We're asking uncomfortable questions

41:36

about the last election.

41:39

What? What? What

41:41

is happening? What? So here's where you start to see Tucker

41:43

getting to, you know, kind of maybe what he actually has feelings about.

41:45

Yeah. This is about extreme right wingers

41:47

being the new child molesters in terms

41:50

of being the worst people in society. This

41:52

is exactly the argument you would expect from someone who

41:54

takes the abuse and exploitation of children very

41:57

seriously. Yeah. Most people

41:59

aren't into the use of the U.S. of the term, minor attracted person,

42:01

and one of the higher profile people who have

42:03

promoted its use got a lot of shit over

42:06

it. That was Dr. Alan Walker

42:08

of Old Dominion University, who was put on an administrative

42:11

leave and then resigned due to the fallout.

42:13

There is a conversation that people have

42:16

surrounding harm reduction that says that there's

42:18

a difference between someone who's attracted to underage persons

42:20

and doesn't act on it, and someone who does

42:23

act on it. There's a sign to that

42:25

discussion that contends that you can't really

42:27

control who you're attracted to, so someone

42:29

doesn't choose that attraction, but they can choose

42:31

to act or not. This school

42:34

of thought argues that people who choose not to act

42:36

on that attraction should be treated differently

42:38

than those who offend, and that by

42:40

doing so it might be possible to minimize the harm

42:43

that's actually done in the real world. Part

42:45

of that different treatment may be something

42:47

like coming up with a different term. Marrow.

42:50

I'm not sure where I come down on this necessarily because I

42:52

haven't done enough looking into it to feel confident either

42:54

way, but I do know that there's a very

42:57

concerted effort on the part of the right wing media

42:59

to use terms like minor attracted person to argue

43:01

that society is trying to mainstream child exploitation

43:04

and that it's being adopted by the LGBTQ

43:06

plus community. This is obviously

43:08

just a means to target, marginalize,

43:10

and slander the LGBTQ plus community. That's

43:13

the use that Tucker has for it in this narrative,

43:15

and it's entirely disconnected from any

43:17

desire to minimize harm that's

43:19

done to children. The pivot to talking

43:22

about the 2020 election deniers and January

43:24

6th rioters is incredibly forced because

43:26

it has to be. This is the kind of the destination

43:28

that Tucker was aiming towards, and he didn't really have

43:31

a sensible path, so you had to go with

43:33

a shoehorn.

43:34

It's bizarre. I mean, I don't

43:40

know if I have anything more to say about the

43:42

specifics of what Tucker said than

43:45

that if Tucker, a

43:47

professed Christian, says

43:51

to me that pausing

43:53

and thinking before hating is a bad

43:55

idea.

43:56

I hope he reads a book. there's

44:00

this really famous thing about where it's like,

44:03

hey, before you hate somebody with violence

44:05

and kill them, like stop and pause

44:07

for a second. I've heard

44:09

that before.

44:11

I'm just saying. Rings of vague battle

44:13

in my head. It's familiar in some way, and for him

44:15

to denigrate that as a thought process

44:17

so viciously

44:19

seems kind of indicative

44:21

of something. Yeah, so here's where we're

44:25

rolling down the hill, and this is where you trip

44:27

and start going, you know. Oh, now

44:29

we're going too fast. Oh, no. Oh, no, no,

44:32

no, now we're Chris Farley and black sheep. Yes.

44:35

And in any case, it's not like pedophiles are barging

44:37

into the Capitol building to sit in Nancy Pelosi's

44:39

chair. We're asking uncomfortable questions

44:42

about the last election. For

44:44

miscreants like that, no punishment

44:46

is too harsh. So far this month,

44:48

the FBI's Washington field office has issued 11

44:51

press releases. 10 out of 11 have

44:54

been about January 6th. Keep in

44:56

mind that January 6th happened more than 2 1,000 years

44:59

ago. That's practically

45:01

a forever ago. On Instagram,

45:03

they're too busy to respond. They've

45:05

got much more important things to do, like

45:07

finding white supremacists. White supremacists

45:10

are America's new child molesters. We've

45:12

got zero tolerance for white supremacists because

45:15

no one threatens the life of this country more than they

45:17

do. Here's

45:18

Joe Biden once again making that very

45:20

clear last month. So Tucker should have

45:22

waited a few days because there's so many

45:24

more press releases about convictions and guilty

45:26

pleas on arrest in January 6th. He

45:29

could have bumped that number up to at least 24. You

45:32

can see a bit of the form of the narrative that's

45:34

taking shape here. Society doesn't hate

45:36

pedophiles enough anymore because people

45:39

who stormed the Capitol are being arrested and charged.

45:41

The FBI isn't taking child abuse seriously because

45:43

they're focused on white supremacists. Obviously

45:46

this is stupid on its face because people can

45:49

care about two things at the same time. I'm

45:51

not sure what Tucker would want the FBI's

45:53

Washington office to do. Would he be satisfied

45:55

if some of those Instagram users were arrested

45:58

also? Or does this require Zucker?

45:59

getting indicted. I don't

46:02

know what would be the condition where he'd

46:04

be like, all right, this complaint has been satisfied.

46:06

This is like, this is like,

46:09

I feel like we're in 1867

46:11

and Lincoln's been dead a couple of years and

46:14

Andrew Johns is like, come on, what are we doing with the reconstruction?

46:16

It's slavery was forever ago. Ah,

46:19

we move on. Everybody, come

46:21

on, stop blaming slave owners for all this.

46:23

Oh, there's a problem. What is that? They're

46:26

as bad as pedophiles? What do they own,

46:28

slave children? Oh shit, oh fuck, I mean, no, everybody

46:30

move on. What's the slavery

46:33

equivalent of like, how do you

46:35

paraphrase it or sort of dress it up the

46:38

same way as just wanted to sit at Nancy Pelosi's

46:41

desk? Yes, yes, absolutely. It's a

46:43

big deal. They just

46:44

wanted to have people do stuff

46:46

for them without payment. It's

46:48

like, they were just asking people for favors

46:51

all the time without their ability to

46:53

say no. They were just aggressively

46:55

opposed to the minimum wage. They

46:59

were worried about everybody's housing

47:02

situation.

47:02

So they had to make sure they kept him in the same place.

47:05

Sure. At all times.

47:07

You can also tell here that Tucker's a shithead

47:09

because he's using an arbitrary cutoff date that

47:11

allows him to make this argument. A bunch

47:13

of J6 resolutions happened at the same

47:16

time but if you look just a little harder,

47:18

you'll find a press release about an arrest that happened on

47:20

May 10th that very well may have been

47:22

someone who's using Instagram to distribute child

47:24

exploitation material. It was probably

47:27

a different app but the press release just says that he was using

47:29

a quote online messaging application.

47:31

True. And Tucker should go and check out

47:33

the press releases from the other FBI field

47:35

offices. Or maybe I should

47:37

just play some dumb ass games like him and complain

47:39

that three out of the three press releases

47:41

from the Las Vegas office this month have

47:45

been about child exploitation arrests. Suspiciously

47:47

no January 6th arrests in Las Vegas.

47:49

That actually is kind of suspicious. I

47:53

bet there are some people hanging out. Yeah, as

47:55

if there's one field office. Oh

47:58

man, no, this is a very small.

47:59

asshole like just such dumb

48:03

such dumb shit he's trying to pass off

48:05

it is it is I I mean It's

48:09

a testament to the ability

48:11

to sell You know like

48:14

this is a sell

48:16

kind of level You know like if

48:19

I'm if I'm did my if my materials

48:21

week on stage I gotta sell

48:23

it you know it's like if I want

48:25

to get my laughs And I don't have the strongest stuff.

48:28

I have to perform way way harder.

48:30

Let me get he has got nothing Let me give

48:32

you another Stand-up

48:35

metaphor sure

48:36

This is not like someone selling really

48:39

hard. This is like Somebody

48:41

who doesn't really like isn't really great

48:43

at stand-up who's coming in Who'll be and

48:46

do getting a headlining spot because they're on a

48:48

show right right right or something like that So

48:50

so you're saying it's Dustin diamond. I think Carlson

48:53

is a dusting though.

48:55

Yeah, I did like I remember

48:57

true when Piven came and headlined

48:59

the last factory That's what I'm thinking of what

49:01

am I one of my early friends? Well

49:04

actually opened for him on the road for a long long

49:06

time Yeah, go to go to casinos

49:09

buddy nothing like not have been pleasant nothing

49:11

like a good Dustin diamond casino gig Yeah,

49:15

no fun But

49:17

I'll turn out great oh no so now we've

49:20

we've gotten to white supremacy We've shifted

49:22

over to that and he introduces

49:24

this Biden

49:25

clip Here's Joe Biden once

49:27

again making that very clear last month

49:29

to stand up against the poison White

49:32

supremacy as I did my inaugural address

49:35

to a single out as the most

49:37

dangerous terrorist director of homeland is

49:39

white supremacy And

49:49

I'm not saying this because I'm in a black

49:51

HPC you I Say

49:54

wherever that seems redundant pardon

49:56

the feedback, but you heard the point white supremacy

49:59

is the most dangerous

49:59

threat to the American homeland. Joe

50:02

Biden just told us that. It's more dangerous

50:04

than the threat of nuclear war with Russia. It's

50:06

more dangerous than the threat of the Mexican drug cartels,

50:08

who've already killed hundreds of thousands of

50:11

Americans and are now in control

50:13

of swathes of our southwestern states. Are they coming

50:15

for the government? Is that bad, Joe Biden

50:17

says. In fact, it's worse. Is the cartel coming for

50:19

the government? But what is it? That's the question.

50:22

Can

50:22

anyone in authority actually define

50:25

white supremacy? Yes! What

50:27

is it? Do you like white people too much?

50:30

If so, that's good for those of us with white children in

50:32

a pretty tough spot. Sure. Or is

50:34

white supremacy something much more obviously

50:36

bad, like trying to expel all

50:38

non-whites from America and creating some kind of ethnostate?

50:42

If that's Joe Biden's definition, what

50:44

exactly is the scope of this threat? How

50:47

many people are currently working on this American

50:49

white ethnostate project? One

50:51

of the chances are going to fall

50:52

off. Our guess is not

50:55

very many and precisely zero. But

50:57

we can't say for sure because no one has showed

50:59

us the numbers. How did we get here?

51:01

Tucker, you are working

51:03

on it now! This

51:05

is you working on it! So white supremacy

51:08

is probably a bigger real world issue than nuclear

51:10

war with Russia, seeing as that seems pretty unlikely,

51:12

whereas white supremacy is something that definitely

51:14

exists. It also seems like a bigger

51:16

problem than these drug cartels that apparently control

51:19

large swaths of the country and have killed hundreds

51:21

of thousands of Americans. I'm

51:23

guessing Tucker means that these deaths

51:25

happen because of the drugs, not

51:28

through murders, but he's vague enough

51:30

that the image is terrifying. It does seem that way. And

51:32

as to the question of defining

51:33

white supremacy and white nationalism, Tucker

51:35

should just ask his staff. They definitely

51:37

know. He could ask his old buddy and former

51:39

head writer Blake Neff, who had to resign after

51:42

his racist message board posts were revealed,

51:44

including some weird instances where things

51:46

posted on the forum mirrored things that

51:48

would show up on Tucker's show. The former

51:50

editor of his site, The

51:52

Daily Caller, named Scott Greer, got busted

51:54

posting racist articles for Richard

51:56

Spencer's outlet under a pen name. They used to publish the

51:58

writing of Jason Kessler. one of the organizers

52:00

of the Unite the Right rally, I think if Tucker

52:03

is looking for some clarity on exactly what white nationalists

52:05

and racists want and are about, he has access

52:07

to a lot more primary sources than most people.

52:10

We've certainly gone far afield from what seemed like

52:13

the topic of this piece, which was the erosion of

52:15

taboos in America leading to child

52:17

molestation being normalized as evidenced by people

52:19

being mad at Kyle Rittenhouse on the fact that there have been

52:21

more January 6th related FBI press

52:24

releases this month. This is a pretty

52:26

poorly constructed monologue, I

52:28

have to say. Yeah, yeah.

52:30

I never really watched his TV

52:32

show, so I don't really know if this is better or worse.

52:35

Yeah, yeah, what are we doing? I might have to watch some

52:37

of his shows to see if like

52:38

the standard has gone far down,

52:41

but if it was this bad when it was on TV, holy shit. I

52:43

don't know what people think. I mean,

52:46

how about this? How about this? Maybe,

52:49

maybe you're telling on yourself a little bit

52:52

based upon who you want to be compared

52:54

to. Do you know what I'm

52:56

saying? Like maybe if I say something like, hey

52:58

listen, I'm an asshole, but I'm not as

53:00

bad as somebody who fucking takes all

53:03

day at the self checkout line with 50 items,

53:06

right? Kind of have an idea

53:08

of where I place myself in society.

53:10

You know, if you say, well, at least I'm not a

53:13

pedophile, I think you're kind

53:15

of saying a lot. I think you're kind of

53:17

saying a lot more than maybe you think you're saying. But

53:19

he doesn't consider himself to be a part

53:21

of the group that is labeled white supremacist

53:24

and white nationalist. Yeah, yeah.

53:26

I think he does. I think he does. I

53:28

think he's presenting. I think through

53:31

his actions he reveals that

53:34

maybe he thinks he does, but he would

53:36

not present things that

53:38

way. Yeah.

53:40

Yeah. Yeah.

53:42

Not good. No, this is a ride. This is insane.

53:45

Yeah. So

53:47

the issue here that he's coming

53:49

to is he got this white nationalist,

53:52

white supremacist terms that Biden's throwing

53:54

around, but we don't have any definitions

53:56

for these things. We need definitions for crimes.

53:59

are currently working on this American white ethno-state

54:02

project. And what are the chances they're gonna pull

54:04

it off?

54:06

Our guess is not very many and

54:08

precisely zero. But we can't say for sure

54:10

because no one has showed us the numbers.

54:13

These are not rhetorical questions. When

54:15

the president of the United States describes something

54:17

as the worst possible crime Americans

54:20

can commit, you have a right to

54:22

know what that crime is.

54:25

You used to have that right.

54:26

Under our pre-revolutionary legal code before

54:29

George Floyd, questions like these were

54:31

easy to answer. A crime was defined

54:33

as something that an elected legislator had

54:35

explicitly banned, usually an act

54:37

that hurt somebody else. What? In

54:40

America, crimes were described precisely with

54:42

words in English and then preserved in books,

54:45

which you could read yourself. What? If

54:47

you ever wondered whether you were committing a crime, you could just

54:49

look it up. You could know for sure

54:52

whether you were a criminal. Now

54:54

you can't. And needless to say,

54:56

that's the point. The point of

54:58

the exercise is to keep you up balanced, keep

55:00

you afraid. No one's willing to

55:03

define the offense. You can't be sure whether

55:05

or not you're committing it. You could be

55:07

accused at any time in everything you have taken

55:09

from you. This sounds a lot like Tucker

55:12

complaining about the idea that being a racist

55:14

or white nationalist could be considered a thought crime.

55:17

Nick, we've already seen him support

55:19

the idea of punishing people for thought crimes

55:21

though, so that's weird. Is

55:23

he broken? I feel like he got broken somewhere

55:25

here. I don't know. He was just repeating weird

55:28

stuff. Uh-huh. I'm just like, you

55:30

used to be able to look at laws. Before the revolution

55:33

of George Floyd. Laws used to be elected

55:34

officials saying no to things. Things

55:37

used to be things that had names, and names

55:39

used to be things that you had. So

55:41

I guess, you know, just

55:43

like

55:44

being racist and white nationalist, those aren't

55:46

crimes. So, you

55:49

know, there's acts. Right.

55:52

You'd have to do. There are acts

55:54

that you take that are then crimes, and they can

55:57

be based on you being, you know, racist

55:59

or whatever.

55:59

You know that's the actions that you

56:02

take that's the that's you know You could be racist

56:04

all you want the government's not gonna stop you from that

56:06

right? It's all nonsense Tucker's just

56:08

painfully feigning ignorance. Yeah,

56:11

it's absurd I he knows what Biden was

56:13

saying he's just pretending it's so Incomprehensible

56:16

to make the audience think that the people pointing

56:18

out racist trends in America Including

56:20

Tucker's own show or just making completely baseless

56:22

and confusing arguments. I think it's cute, but

56:24

it's transparent. Yes It's come

56:26

on man. Yeah. No, this is like if you were if

56:29

he was doing this in a conversation

56:29

Without like a TV

56:32

crew. I just you could just be like no no no

56:34

no no no no stop just stop just

56:36

nope Stop,

56:38

I can't I can't I can't imagine him going about

56:40

his daily life with this

56:42

poor level of it's absurd of Processing

56:45

information. Yeah, like how could you justify

56:47

buying something if you oh,

56:50

right? Okay, so oh so it's five

56:52

dollars a That's just because

56:54

of bullshit like what are you trying

56:56

to do right? Yeah, like it's something

56:59

is 499 and you get caught up in your head about how it's actually

57:01

five dollars But you're trying to trick me Self

57:06

that's not a good business. You know you're burning

57:08

down the store

57:12

Yeah, so there's these crimes

57:14

that you don't know but you used to know You're

57:17

using the middle days of a few years

57:19

ago days back when you used to know what

57:21

the crimes were and you could find

57:24

out Dan do you remember? Do you remember

57:26

those years before George Floyd when we used

57:28

to go around being like wait am I gonna commit

57:30

a crime? I better look it up in the cold

57:32

you can't I know now. Yeah,

57:34

I didn't even know and Tucker has

57:36

an example When no one's willing

57:39

to define the effect you can't be sure whether

57:41

or not you're committing

57:42

it You

57:43

could be accused at any time and everything

57:45

you have taken from you You

57:47

live in fear Remember this

57:49

guy the manual Cafferty was driving

57:51

near a black lives matter Protest

57:53

in Poway in his SDG and e-truck

57:56

when he says he noticed somebody following him

57:58

and trying to get his attention later

57:59

Later, that person posted a picture of

58:02

him making what some believed is a

58:04

white supremacy symbol on Twitter. Cafferty

58:06

says he had no idea about any white power

58:09

symbols and was just cracking his knuckles outside

58:11

his window when the picture was taken

58:13

of him. Later that day, he says he was notified

58:15

by SDG&E that he would be suspended

58:18

pending an investigation. And a few days later,

58:20

he was fired.

58:22

What that man did was so offensive, as you

58:24

just saw, that local news had to blur the photograph

58:26

of his hand. He was fired from

58:29

his job. His life was destroyed for

58:32

cracking his knuckles. He

58:34

didn't know cracking his knuckles was racist in

58:36

his defense, but then nobody did until the day that

58:38

poor Emmanuel Cafferty was unwise enough to crack

58:40

them.

58:41

When a crime has no definition, anyone

58:44

can be guilty of it. It's hard

58:46

to relax in a country like that. Relax?

58:49

You

58:50

would get a D in

58:52

elementary school for that kind of shit.

58:54

Yeah. That is really bad.

58:57

It's pretty, ugh. So

58:59

the case of Emmanuel Cafferty is pretty interesting.

59:02

Most of the basic details that are given here align

59:04

with what I can find. He was driving past

59:06

a protest in his SDG&E truck, and

59:11

someone took a picture of him flashing what appeared to

59:13

be an OK sign. And this picture was posted on Twitter

59:15

with the SDG&E, ugh,

59:19

low and feel right. Yeah, it's not a good one. And they

59:21

were tagged on Twitter. So SDG&E

59:24

suspended him and put him under review, and

59:26

then he was fired. Right. This seems like a really

59:28

unfortunate case of people being a little

59:30

overzealous and calling this guy out, and that's

59:32

no good. But I have two points that I want to bring up.

59:35

One, this isn't a crime. Nope. Two, I

59:37

suspect that Cafferty's termination didn't come about because

59:40

of this tweet. I obviously have no

59:42

way of knowing for sure, but if I had to guess, I would

59:44

assume that in the course of SDG&E's

59:47

investigation of his employment, they found cause

59:49

that merited termination. Here's the

59:51

basis for my suspicion.

59:53

The first point is that there was a massive

59:55

outcry about this case, and not just from the normal

59:57

right wing shithead cancel culture crowd. Rantik

1:00:00

wrote about it and Cafferty was featured on

1:00:02

an episode of Monica Lewinsky's series Fifteen

1:00:04

Minutes of Shame. The person who tweeted this

1:00:06

picture came forward and said that they misinterpreted

1:00:09

it even. Like everyone was like, you

1:00:12

know, this was no good. Okay, so everybody

1:00:15

preempted

1:00:17

Tucker's bullshit by going, hey guys, maybe

1:00:19

we went a little this too far. Yeah, Monica

1:00:21

Lewinsky even did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

1:00:23

Tucker is scooped by Monica Lewinsky. Quite,

1:00:26

quite a bit. Another issue that I come

1:00:28

to on this claim is that Cafferty,

1:00:30

you know, they say that Cafferty was just cracking his

1:00:33

knuckles in the picture, but this is what it

1:00:35

says in the Atlantic article about that day. Quote,

1:00:38

Cafferty told me a few days ago the other

1:00:40

driver began to act even more strangely.

1:00:43

He flashed what looked to Cafferty like an okay

1:00:45

hand gesture and started cussing him out.

1:00:48

When the light turned green, Cafferty drove off, hoping to put

1:00:50

an end to this disconcerting encounter.

1:00:53

But when Cafferty reached another red light, the man now holding

1:00:55

a cell phone camera was there again. Do

1:00:57

it, do it, he shouted. Unsure

1:00:59

what to do, Cafferty copied the gesture

1:01:02

the other driver kept making. The man appeared

1:01:04

to take a video or perhaps a photo.

1:01:06

So that's what it says in the Atlantic. On

1:01:08

the GoFundMe, his family set up. Before

1:01:11

you go any further.

1:01:13

Sure. But continue. On

1:01:15

the GoFundMe that his family set up and in that

1:01:17

news article, you know, it says,

1:01:19

you know, quote, on June 3rd,

1:01:21

a stranger posted a picture of Emmanuel Cafferty

1:01:24

on social media and falsely accused him of displaying

1:01:26

a white power hand gesture in his company

1:01:28

truck. Emmanuel had his arm

1:01:30

extended out the window and was merely stretching

1:01:33

his fingers unaware of any such hand gesture.

1:01:36

There are wildly different accounts of

1:01:38

what happened that are coming from

1:01:40

him. The same guy. And I don't think

1:01:42

that he was doing

1:01:43

a white power hand gesture necessarily. Like,

1:01:45

I don't have any reason to think that. But something

1:01:48

that doesn't match up about what like

1:01:50

the details of this. You can't tell more than

1:01:52

one story in a short period of time on

1:01:55

our show. You can if the details

1:01:57

are fairly close. Well, that's what I'm saying.

1:01:59

Cracking my knuckles or just relaxing

1:02:02

my fingers. And then also there's the story

1:02:04

of I was being harassed by someone who was yelling at me

1:02:07

to do an okay sign. You can't do that one. That's

1:02:09

so far apart that one's a

1:02:11

lie. Yeah, once you did the, oh no,

1:02:13

no, no, no, it was somebody else. Once you did that,

1:02:16

now I'm out. One of these stories

1:02:18

has to be a lie.

1:02:19

And he's telling it. And I don't know what

1:02:21

to think about that, but I still don't necessarily

1:02:24

think that there's any reason to believe he was

1:02:26

being racist. Oh, I mean, I believe

1:02:29

he's lying about one thing. Something. Yeah.

1:02:32

So there was a groundswell and near universal desire

1:02:35

for him to get his job back, but SDG&E

1:02:37

did not go for it. And then Cafferty filed

1:02:39

two lawsuits, one against SDG&E

1:02:41

and the other against the guy who tweeted the picture. Sure.

1:02:44

On October 26th of last year, Cafferty himself

1:02:47

filed to dismiss the case against the tweeter with

1:02:49

prejudice, meaning that it's not an action he can

1:02:51

reintroduce. His

1:02:53

suit against SDG&E

1:02:55

for defamation went the exact same route, except

1:02:58

that he requested to be dismissed without

1:03:00

or with prejudice on June 1st, 2023, only

1:03:04

two weeks ago. There are some other

1:03:06

possibilities of what could be going on. It's

1:03:08

imaginable that Cafferty realized that he would

1:03:10

have a very difficult time proving defamation

1:03:12

claims, but he may be still intending

1:03:15

to pursue like an unjust termination

1:03:17

case against SDG&E. They've

1:03:19

stood against their, they've stood by

1:03:21

their decision though. And I can't find any evidence

1:03:23

of other suits being filed. So I'm not

1:03:25

sure what to really think. It's

1:03:28

a weird situation. Like I don't know

1:03:30

if any reason or evidence to suggest that he was making

1:03:32

a racist hand gesture when he was photographed and all

1:03:34

indications point to it being really

1:03:36

inappropriate that this person tweeted what they did. Having

1:03:39

said that, I don't know enough about this case

1:03:41

to say that this is the ultimate reason he got fired.

1:03:44

In the case that it was an employer trying

1:03:46

to cover their ass by firing someone, then I would

1:03:48

be on Cafferty's side.

1:03:49

In the case that there was grounds for his termination

1:03:53

and that thing only came to light because of this

1:03:55

incident, I think that sucks and it's bad luck,

1:03:57

but I don't know what to do.

1:03:59

You know?

1:03:59

I'll say this. I

1:04:02

wouldn't base an entire moral

1:04:04

philosophy around dealing with

1:04:07

what happens in this particular situation

1:04:09

and then claim that it's all because people

1:04:12

hate white people now.

1:04:13

I think that it is. Yeah, the hunt for

1:04:15

white supremacists is so extreme

1:04:18

that this guy lost his job a couple of years ago.

1:04:20

Right.

1:04:21

Right.

1:04:22

I mean, this is unfortunate.

1:04:25

Yeah. True. I don't think it's worth

1:04:27

upending all of the- But it

1:04:30

also doesn't satisfy

1:04:32

the argument that's being made. No, absolutely

1:04:35

not. And also, as we're listening to

1:04:37

this as part of Tucker's presentation,

1:04:39

at the end of the day, this isn't an issue

1:04:41

involving a crime at all. At

1:04:43

most, there was an act of defamation by

1:04:45

this Twitter poster, which would have been resolved through

1:04:48

a lawsuit, which was filed and then voluntarily

1:04:50

dismissed with prejudice by Cafferty.

1:04:54

You know, there is no crime.

1:04:55

Yeah, what I find interesting is

1:04:57

that a through line here, and

1:05:00

I don't know if this is on purpose or not, but

1:05:02

a through line here is that the government

1:05:04

should be more oppressive. The

1:05:07

through line is that all of these private companies,

1:05:10

the powers that be,

1:05:11

are the ones doing everything and that the government

1:05:14

needs to do more to stop them. Or

1:05:16

the government isn't doing enough so everybody else

1:05:18

needs to enact

1:05:21

harsh social taboos. Exactly.

1:05:23

Yeah, it is very much- It's

1:05:25

almost the definition of regressive. Yeah.

1:05:28

Like pushing things backwards. Yeah.

1:05:31

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is legitimately

1:05:34

like,

1:05:35

but women, they shouldn't be outside.

1:05:37

What are they doing outside? Nah, that's

1:05:39

the taboo of women. The taboo of seeing a woman

1:05:42

outside. Why did we- I mean, where are we?

1:05:44

Why did we lose that taboo? I am not going to go

1:05:46

back to arguing about whether or not women can wear tank

1:05:48

tops. That's not happening. Okay,

1:05:50

it's not happening. Give it six months. God damn

1:05:53

it. So we

1:05:56

come to the dismount here. Yeah. And

1:05:58

Tucker wraps up his-

1:05:59

argument, his point. I

1:06:03

don't even know what to make of any of this. Okay. It's

1:06:05

hard to relax in a country like that.

1:06:07

The old system was better. Government

1:06:10

operated on the basis of laws, not

1:06:12

amorphous moral terror.

1:06:14

Politicians couldn't use you of something they

1:06:16

couldn't define.

1:06:18

The legal code was straightforward. Child molestation

1:06:20

was a crime. What? Having unfashionable

1:06:23

opinions was not.

1:06:25

Outside of the public sphere, the population

1:06:27

mostly governed itself as it does

1:06:29

in every society and used taboos

1:06:31

to do it.

1:06:32

You knew what was allowed and what wasn't

1:06:34

because the rules didn't change very often. The

1:06:37

taboos were organic. They derived

1:06:39

from collective experience and instinct,

1:06:42

the two most reliable guides to life. What?

1:06:44

They evolved for a reason.

1:06:47

They still do. We wrote books since then.

1:06:49

Our job at this point is to protect them, despite

1:06:51

the hectoring, the nonstop hectoring from

1:06:54

the people in charge. You know the

1:06:56

outlines of right and wrong. You're born

1:06:59

knowing them.

1:07:00

So don't let them talk you out of what

1:07:02

you can smell. Don't let them rationalize

1:07:05

away your intuitive moral sense. Cling

1:07:07

to your taboos like your life depends

1:07:10

on them because it does.

1:07:12

Cherish and protect them like family heirlooms.

1:07:15

That's exactly what they are. Great news.

1:07:18

What Tucker is describing as the old system is still in place.

1:07:20

Yeah, Toronto station is still a crime and it's still

1:07:22

not a crime to have unfashionable opinions. If

1:07:25

that's how he wants to describe being a white supremacist.

1:07:27

Amazing. Further, the government isn't

1:07:29

accusing people of anything. No, this

1:07:31

is coming straight off of him talking about Cafferty

1:07:33

and the government isn't involved in that story at

1:07:36

all. Right. Biden brought up in a speech that white

1:07:38

supremacy was a threat to our country, but I assure

1:07:40

you he wasn't talking about your private beliefs and

1:07:42

micro

1:07:42

aggressions. The culmination

1:07:44

of this monologue, the go home message seems to

1:07:46

be a bit weird. On the one hand,

1:07:48

Tucker is saying that our country should be governed by taboos

1:07:51

which grow and evolve with the times. But

1:07:53

simultaneously, he's saying to the audience that they need

1:07:55

to hold fast to their taboos as

1:07:58

if their life depended on it.

1:07:59

Fastly refusing to change from the innate

1:08:02

wisdom about right and wrong that they had from birth

1:08:05

Those

1:08:05

seem to be at odds with each other. I was gonna

1:08:07

say this is just don't coexist completely

1:08:11

I mean is his closing. Yeah

1:08:13

is an incomplete disagreement with his opening

1:08:15

Well and his closing is in complete disagreement

1:08:18

with his closing. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

1:08:20

Yeah, absolutely I don't know what

1:08:22

he means. I think I think I know intuitively

1:08:25

Right he means

1:08:26

you hate people and don't let anybody

1:08:28

tell you to stop right yeah, I get what you're saying

1:08:30

right I'm furious that you have to say it differently

1:08:33

because this is Excruciatingly

1:08:35

bad yeah,

1:08:36

just get to I hate people Yeah,

1:08:39

and I should be allowed to yeah, and no one should

1:08:41

be mean to be about it right and if people hate

1:08:43

me It's because they're filled with hate, but I hate because

1:08:45

I'm a good person take a page out of the Dennis

1:08:48

Leary playbook And just do it Just

1:08:52

do it This is

1:08:54

exhausting and silly man What

1:08:56

think about how much effort you have

1:08:58

to put in

1:09:00

to trying to justify just

1:09:02

being a hateful piece of shit? Hmm, and

1:09:04

this is what you came out with yeah,

1:09:07

wow it's

1:09:09

It's an interesting experience

1:09:11

to listen to it because you know how you

1:09:13

were surprised along a lot of Pat like

1:09:15

a lot of the Ways the road

1:09:17

twisted why I I was I

1:09:20

was as well. It's it's it's I

1:09:22

have an unfair advantage of having heard this

1:09:25

before yeah You know but the first time I heard

1:09:27

it I was like

1:09:28

I can't I can't believe that this is where we're going This

1:09:30

is but will I can make it neither hide nor hair of

1:09:32

it It does it does this make sense to other people

1:09:34

and we're crazy like am I crazy.

1:09:37

I don't know I Don't

1:09:39

think so I feel I feel I

1:09:42

cuz honestly no we started listening to Alex

1:09:44

He makes more sense to me than this does

1:09:46

hmm Just because

1:09:48

it's like oh, yeah, he's out. He's why

1:09:51

do you know what I mean? That's that's fantasy

1:09:53

stuff familiarity. Yeah, well yeah, you're

1:09:56

eventually right be the same with Tucker if we keep probably

1:09:58

but it's so

1:09:59

jarring

1:09:59

It is and I when

1:10:02

you say it doesn't make sense That's

1:10:04

not what you mean like it's not

1:10:06

that it doesn't make sense the messaging makes sense

1:10:09

Right and like I get the point that he's trying

1:10:11

to make right and I get the ways that he's

1:10:13

using like some

1:10:16

the poorly Designed

1:10:19

rhetoric tricks in order to pursue

1:10:21

his point, right?

1:10:22

What doesn't make sense is trying

1:10:25

to follow the logic that he's using

1:10:27

to get to those points I feel like

1:10:29

he is speaking a different language that

1:10:32

I kind of understand You know, like I feel

1:10:34

like I speak Portuguese and he speaks Spanish

1:10:36

and I'm like I get enough to know

1:10:38

what you're saying I

1:10:39

get enough to know what you're saying But when

1:10:41

you put all those words together if

1:10:43

you were speaking the language correctly

1:10:46

They don't mean what you say They mean

1:10:48

right, you know what I mean? You have to be using those

1:10:50

words to mean different things than what

1:10:52

they than what they mean Yeah, yeah, and

1:10:55

it kind of feels a little bit like

1:10:57

if I could put this into like just sort of a logic

1:10:59

construction Mm-hmm. It kind of comes off

1:11:02

as like if a then B, right

1:11:04

if B then C

1:11:05

if C then D Pickle

1:11:09

therefore ham sandwich. Yes, like

1:11:11

what? Yeah, what are we doing? That is a

1:11:13

great way of describing it You're like,

1:11:15

okay You've given me four completely unrelated

1:11:17

things saying that three of them are related

1:11:20

to each other I guess and then

1:11:22

you've said pickle and sandwich. Yeah, okay.

1:11:25

All right, I get it I mean you

1:11:27

are mad that people don't like white supremacists.

1:11:30

I think you're more mad that you can't

1:11:32

think good Maybe maybe

1:11:34

episode three will be better

1:11:37

Well, I know he's not mad at the crew yet

1:11:40

no, oh god, I can't wait So

1:11:45

I guess we'll be back and We'll check

1:11:47

in on him see what see what else Tucker has to

1:11:49

offer see what Alex has to offer but Until

1:11:52

then what a ride Ride

1:11:55

we'll be back, but we have a website indeed we

1:11:57

do it's now the trite comm. Yep. We're also on

1:11:59

Twitter

1:11:59

We are on Twitter, it's Adam Halogenterscorefight. Yep,

1:12:02

we'll

1:12:02

be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo,

1:12:04

I'm DZX Clark. Skit, skit,

1:12:06

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1:12:09

wish I remembered the tune to Master

1:12:11

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1:12:21

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1:12:21

woo, yeah, woo! And

1:12:24

now here comes the sex robots. Andy

1:12:26

in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

1:12:30

Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan,

1:12:32

I love your work. I love you.