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Welcome everyone to another edition

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of the KSR pre Show. Today

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is Friday, May tenth. I

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am Billy Rutlives along with Shanon the Dude. You can give us

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a call on the Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. It's eight

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Uh.

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Get in early and often today.

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You can also tweet us at Billy our Sports and at

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Shannon the Dude. A Friday with no remote,

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so we do have a little bit of a special guest

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for you. I am in Lexington. Shannon

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the Dude is in Louisville, but joining me in Lexington

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is a seven time SEC champion. He

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is a national champion and head

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coach at the University of Kentucky of

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the volleyball team. Craig Skinner is joining

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us in studio. Good morning,

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Craig. How are you doing, Billy?

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Great morning, Wait, great way to start the morning

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here on Friday.

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Absolutely. Shannon the Dude is alongside

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in Louisville. Good morning, dude.

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How hey, hey doing well? Yeah? Good to have coach

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with us today and looking forward to it. Yeah.

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Not many fridays that we get that we're not actually out

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on remote, so this is a little awkward being on

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a Friday and actually in studio for the

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first time in a while.

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It is, you know, a couple of fridays ago,

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we had Aaron Koffer from the softball team on.

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She was great.

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Now having Coach Skinner on, who was just telling

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me how much he loves your music selections

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on KSR.

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Okay, Yeah, it's awesome.

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A little bit of a rockhead in the studio, Craig, is

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that what you're listening to?

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Big fans, Shannon, keep playing him

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out there. It's awesome.

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I appreciate that. Yeah, Unfortunately you can't hear it

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if you listen on podcasts. We still haven't figured

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out that that licensing issue with

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the podcast music.

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But yeah, I appreciate that. Good to have you here

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with us this morning.

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Absolutely, we've got a lot to talk about.

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Coach.

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We were just talking about getting on the links sometimes.

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Because your son is starting to play golf. He's

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playing on a high school team right now.

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He is. It makes a little bit easier for

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me to get out and play. When I'm telling my wife

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me to go play golf and not going to be gone for

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six hours, I'm actually taking one of our kids. So

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it's cool. To get him on the course.

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I gotta work harder now because he's starting to get pretty good,

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so I gotta, you know, tee it up a little bit.

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Well, it's it's no longer just leaving the family

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at home, right, It's like you can.

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Bring him along, bring the sun along.

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You know, you guys are just doing some father son bonding.

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That's right, that's I absolutely love

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that. We'll get into some of the news of the

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day, and I especially want to talk

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to Coach about his trip to Japan coming

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up with the UK volleyball team.

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They are leaving is it.

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Next week to go to week

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for tomorrow? So a cool team

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bonding experience that we can talk about here in a

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little bit. I did want to start with a topic

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that was talked about yesterday on KSR,

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and that was kind of like the surreal

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moments that you've had in throughout

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our careers, the what is it, Shannon,

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The act like you've been there before.

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Moments, They act like you belong moments

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which I feel like my career is just full of

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those. I feel I could do an entire show off

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of talking about moments

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that I probably shouldn't have been been

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in that situation. But you know, you get to act

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like you belong there type moments, and I gave

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yesterday was the time that we went to

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the White House and we sat there and did

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Kentucky Sports Radio in the press room, and

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I'm going, we do not belong here, but

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we've got to, you know, act like, act

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like we're a part of the media, know which we

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are just basically fish out of water

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in that in that environment. But that was

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probably the biggest one for me, Billy.

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I was part time at the time, and since you were

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there, I was running KSR back in the studio.

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Run on the board.

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But you're producing that show, a legendary show,

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because at one point, I think the entire room

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was looking at you guys, like, who are these

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people in the middle of the White House.

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These other media members are

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professionals right there, you know. I

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look over, there's the Dallas Star and the New York Times,

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and they've got like these little markers where

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people sit representing those particular

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brands of media. And then here is

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three goofballs because Matt wasn't there.

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You know, Matt's usually the one that has to keep us on track.

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So it's me, it's Ryan and it's Drew.

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It's just three goofballs sitting there. And at one

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point during our show, Ryan

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starts doing his Mitch McConnell impersonation

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in the press room and the White House,

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and he's so like he's louder than what he realizes

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he is, you know, and it's it's really kind of quiet

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environment, you know, in that room. And and

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then here's Ryan doing his this Mitch mcconnaell

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ipersonation very loudly, and we got

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a death stare from just about everybody in that room.

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So I believe it, Yeah, I absolutely do. That's

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definitely my number one.

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You know, you've taught me a lot about just walking around

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into places and people won't say anything

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if you walk with a confidence right going backstage

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two venues, or walk with your.

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Head high, you know, give a little wink and a nod, maybe

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a point, how's your family doing? You know, just walk

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right in and I feel like you own the place,

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and usually nobody will question you.

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Going through the side door at Repperino. We've known

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that you've done that.

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Or two, if it's open, coach, I'll

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let you think about your moment.

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If you have one.

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In a second, I will give you mine, And honestly,

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it was a lot more recent than you might think

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it was. Honestly, just last weekend, Channon at

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the Kentucky Derby, I was inside

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the new two hundred million dollar paddock area

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interviewing some of the most famous jockeys

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in the world, some of the most famous broadcasters

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in Mike Tarico and eventually

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getting to interview Stacy or yeah,

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Stacey and and Jeff Shephard.

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That was so cool to me, Shannon. That was a pinch

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me moment for me.

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And you know, I wanted to ask Mike

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Trico for a picture, man, but you can't do that.

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Right on your sidecade When

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are you ever going to have another opportunity to

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be face to face with with Mike Turco?

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And by the way, you took advantage of him.

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You said you were going to take one minute of his time. You

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took two minutes of his time, all

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right, So I think, what's another two seconds

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to just take a selfie.

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With the guy?

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That's true, Coach. He did not want to talk to me. He was

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he was trying to walk away, Like

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Mike, one minute of your time, he goes one minute,

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okay, And then I got two minutes out of him.

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So I did take

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advantage of there.

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You know, I didn't originally start as a UK

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fan, So I met these guys inn Issel and

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Rex Chapman early on and I didn't even

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really know who they were. And to a degree,

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sometimes they appreciate that well. They definitely

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get treated differently when they don't

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when people don't. But honestly, to

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be at the one hundred and fiftieth Kentucky Derby

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and doing something like that was definitely

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a pinch me moment or act like that, you've

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been there, act like you belong.

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Moment for me.

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Coach, you've been is it nineteen years

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at Kentucky.

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It is going to number twenty yes.

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Going into number twenty wow.

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And obviously at Nebraska at a time

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before that you've risen up the

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coaching ranks.

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Was there ever a moment where it was like you needed to act

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like that you.

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Belonged, you know, just

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speaking of the White House. When I was in Nebraska,

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the first year we were there, we won a national championship

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and we went thirty four and oh and we ended up in the White House

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in front of George W. Bush And I'm sitting

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in the Oval office. I'm like, what's

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happening right now, you know, And I just had no idea,

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and he's given us a talk about respect and all

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that type of stuff, and it was just a surreal moment.

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And then another one when we wanted in the COVID

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year of twenty twenty one. It's April twenty fourth,

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and we just beat Texas and

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we you know, and I'm walking towards to

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do an interview and I just had to sit down, you

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know. I just was like, I'm just a kid from Muncie,

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Indiana, and you know, I like to coach volleyball, and here

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we are, and you know, it gives you goosebumps

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thinking about stuff like that.

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Well, it's a culmination of a career, right

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to get to that level, to do it as the

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head coach instead of and his

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assistant like you did at Nebraska, and

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talk about a weird tournament to win too, right,

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I mean, you're the twenty twenty champion,

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but it happened in April twenty one due to the

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circumstances and in the bubble

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as well.

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I mean, that was a bizarre time.

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For college athletics.

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Man. Talk about anxiety, I mean, the uncertainty

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that whole year was just overwhelming.

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I mean, you had no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. You had

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no idea if you're going to even play, You had no idea

7:29

if your opponent was going to be ready to play. Be based

7:31

on testing, and then get in the bubble and

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every single day you're tested. You get in a

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queue with your whole team and you wait,

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everyone gets tested and three or four times

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false positive. You know, our best player false positive,

7:42

Chris Shouls false positive, one of our staff

7:44

members false positive. And you just don't even know

7:46

if you're gonna get to play the match. And then so when you sit

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down at the end, and I sat there and I'm like, holy

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you know what, what the hell just happened? And

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we're here. You

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can't really describe it. It's just a feeling.

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You have to experience to know what it feels like.

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There's only one national champion winner

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on the show, Shannon, and it's not either one of us.

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You know, I've never won a championship at anything,

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not even wrestling. Well, you know what, you know what, Hold

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on a minute, I got to back that up. Of course,

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am I what am I saying, I mean,

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I am the longest reigning champion in

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ov W history. I mean, do you

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realize, Billy, some of the names that have come through ov

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W, John Cena, brock Lesner,

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I mean, Randy Orton, Batista,

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and I've held the title longer than any of those guys. So

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yeah, I have won the championship. I met

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like like in college, is.

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What I meant.

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Okay, yeah, you have your belt on now.

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No, I haven't done last night though it's

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out in the car.

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I got security guards around it to make sure nobody tries

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to break and steal it.

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He's very elite at picking and choosing his

8:42

opponents too. It's either old man Tony Venetti

8:45

or the female royal rumble.

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That's what I've learned over the years is you can't

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lose a championship if you never defend

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it.

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I mean, that's so that's the key. Don't

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ever defend it. You can't ever lose it.

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You know. It's like it's like when Coach Skinner, you know when

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when when you guys won the championship, if you just never played

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another football, magic just quit right there

9:02

and you're always the champion forever.

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That's right, that's right. You just should have went out on

9:06

top. But obviously

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you're making a difference in a lot of people's lives,

9:11

not only the athletes that come through Kentucky,

9:13

but the fan base and everybody that you

9:15

interact with. It's an exciting time for

9:17

Kentucky sports. We'll talk about a little

9:20

later. The baseball team taking on Florida.

9:22

They're getting ready to possibly make a run to the

9:24

College World Series. You've got the UK tennis

9:27

team in the Sweet sixteen. They're going to be playing

9:29

Harvard this weekend. So coach,

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tell us about where your team's at right now.

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How's this offseason been going so far.

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Well, we're kind of in a you know, our team starts

9:37

coming back this weekend to start practicing for Japan.

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We had a spring season, which is kind of exhibition.

9:42

You play for exhibition dates and you

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don't have your outgoing seniors, you don't

9:47

have your incoming freshmen, a couple of transfers

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out on transfer in and so it's

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a little bit limbo this time of year, but you really get

9:54

to spend time and training and getting your kids ready and

9:56

team ready for the fall, and this

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trip to Japan is just huge time

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for us to kind of get some things ironed out before

10:03

we get to preseason in August, and just

10:06

a big head start for us and others to get to

10:08

do these foreign trips once every four years.

10:10

You said you're entering year twenty at the Helm

10:12

at the University of Kentucky, and so

10:14

you've recruited a lot of players, You've done this a

10:16

certain way for a long time, and I feel

10:19

like you had to change absolutely everything about

10:21

that with the additions of name,

10:23

image and likeness and the transfer portal.

10:26

It's it's very nice to have a sitting

10:28

head coach in with us because you can kind of

10:30

maybe give us some of those details about how

10:33

much of a crazy world it is out there. With

10:35

those two things.

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Man, it's completely different than it was when

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I first started. I mean, there's no question about it. And

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you know, but as you say as a

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coach to your players, we have to be able to adapt.

10:44

We have to be able to just you've got to go with the flow in the middle

10:46

of matches, after matches, before the next

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match. If you don't adapt, you're going to die.

10:51

I mean, it's it's a cliche, but adapter or die,

10:53

and it's true and This is one

10:55

of the biggest adaptations that all of us

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have had to go through, and it's very It's

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like you don't even really know what's

11:02

going to happen a week from now, a month from hour, a year

11:04

from now. It's like you jump jump in with Christopher

11:06

Columbus to explore the world and you

11:08

have no idea where you're gonna end up. And it's that's

11:10

the way we feel. But it's

11:13

you know, it is what it is, and you've got to navigate

11:15

it. And you've got to still hold true to your principles

11:18

of who you are as your program and you're and

11:20

you know how you want to go about this,

11:22

but you got to throw in some curveballs and

11:24

adapt to what's happening.

11:26

Yeah, and Shane and I have talked about this a

11:28

lot. The change from kids

11:31

coming in wanting to play and be a

11:33

part of your program to now coming in and saying,

11:35

how much money you're gonna give me? How much starting

11:37

time am I going to get? I can understand Shannon the dude's

11:39

saying that to OVW and it

11:42

his line of work, But was it that a little jarring?

11:45

Yeah, it's it's I I don't think

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that our sport is what you're seeing and hearing

11:50

in football, basketball, you

11:52

know, but it's there, and you

11:54

know, kids are wondering asking,

11:57

you know, coaches, and so it's

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I don't think it's a direct pay for play at this

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point in time, you know, but it's you

12:03

know, we are taking advances of namage likeness. Our

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players are getting some opportunities and plenty

12:08

of opportunities. And do I think they

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deserve more opportunities, yes, but it's you know,

12:12

it's it's a battle. I mean, you're trying to raise money

12:15

for from people and that

12:17

they don't necessarily get a huge advantage

12:19

for. But that's starting to change. And you

12:22

know, Club Blue nil and W nineteen seventy

12:24

four of these collectors that are helping our players. I

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appreciate what they're doing because a lot of people are volunteering

12:30

their time to do this and it's not a you

12:32

know, paid position within these deals so

12:34

far to you know, make it happen for our players.

12:36

But they're getting opportunities.

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They deserve those opportunity. I mean, hell, five years

12:40

ago or three years ago, our kids couldn't even run a camp

12:43

and profit off of it. I mean that's the dumbest thing ever. It had

12:45

to happen. Names likes had to happen.

12:47

They needed to be able to do this. Now we

12:49

got to figure out what's the right way to do it.

12:51

I think you hit the nail on the head. There

12:53

there were some changes that definitely needed

12:55

to be made. But do you feel like there are still

12:58

some changes that still need to be made with the system?

13:00

Well, for sure. I mean, I mean, can you imagine

13:02

being you know, coach Pope has zero

13:05

players, zero players and zero staff

13:07

and try and put something together. I mean, it's it's

13:10

crazy, you know. So whether

13:12

that means it's all comes in house and we navigate

13:14

it that way, so there's a little bit more control over

13:16

it. You know, I don't I'm

13:18

not smart enough to figure out what those things

13:20

are. But it just can't be, you

13:23

know, a free for all and you know

13:25

it's it's a free market completely. It's it's

13:27

there's got to be some guidance to what we're doing.

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Billy r Sports and at Shannon the dude, Shannon,

13:38

were you ever a volleyball player?

13:40

Only recreationally?

13:43

No, not on any

13:45

sort of I guess, really competitive

13:47

level, you know, I mean either.

13:49

No, I didn't.

13:49

I didn't never was in a boys volleyball

13:52

league. Did you play, coach? Is that how I got into the

13:54

story?

13:54

I fell into it, Leo, Louisville's got a lot of good boys

13:56

volleyball. I fell into it because I grew up

13:58

in Muncie where Ball State University was. They had a varsity

14:00

men's program, and the coach's

14:02

son was on my baseball and football team

14:05

in sixth grade and he's like, Hey, you want to play volleyball. I'm

14:07

like, what the hell? I didn't even know what it was basically, and

14:09

so kind of fell into it that way. And it's

14:11

a you know, it's an addicting sport, and it's it's

14:13

it's the second most popular sport in the world

14:15

for guys and girls. If you know watch

14:17

would you wouldn't know, but around the world it's

14:20

massive.

14:20

No, I didn't know that.

14:22

I was doing a little research on you, coach

14:24

before this interview today, and I did want

14:26

to mention before we take our first break. Is it true

14:28

that you played on the University of Michigan football

14:31

team for a year.

14:31

I did put the uniform on. Yes, I was part

14:34

of the Michigan football team for a short stint.

14:36

I was a kicker and punter. I walked on.

14:39

Count. Did you put the jersey on?

14:40

I did. It was the same recruiting

14:44

class as Desmond Howard and

14:47

you know, Elvis Gerback, you

14:49

know people like that. But I'm

14:51

clearly not in that level. And I quickly realized

14:54

that this is way over my abilities and I'm going to stick.

14:56

I'm gonna do something different, So ended up transferring

14:58

back to Ball State for volleyball.

15:00

Wow, that you know that there's an unprecedented

15:02

level pressure when it comes to kickers and punters.

15:05

Right, Oh my gosh, there is absolutely

15:07

you know, so much respectus and

15:09

even as much for punters. I mean to be able

15:11

to drop the ball accurately where

15:13

it needs to be and get it on your foot and get it to the

15:15

right yard line and avoid that, you

15:18

know, guys coming at you a hundred miles an hour. It's

15:20

there's an immense amount of pressure. And if you're

15:22

only noticed if you shank it.

15:24

That's true, that's the only time is you

15:26

got to come.

15:26

In launch one. They just care

15:28

if you shank it.

15:29

Now, if we got you on a field, I mean, what are

15:31

we thinking? Thirty five forty yarder you could

15:33

probably put down.

15:34

Currently, Oh it's been a few years.

15:36

I'll kick some fifties. Back in

15:38

the day when I first got here, I did

15:40

win a bet and kicked a forty

15:43

five yard and I took the cash with Nope,

15:45

who knows right now? Maybe thirty hours.

15:47

Oh that's funny.

15:48

I'm just imagining Coach Skinner hitting fifty

15:50

yard bombs right now.

15:52

Not now, well, I mean, what do you think you could

15:54

hit, Billy? You have a cold?

15:56

You could you hit an extra point?

15:58

The irrational confident bill sports

16:00

here. I think I'm gonna know my limits,

16:03

probably like a twenty twenty five.

16:04

Yard or maybe just out of the end zoner.

16:06

So the questions, would you guys go soccer style

16:08

or like super toe? Remember super toe?

16:10

Yeah?

16:10

See, I'd have to kick straight on. I

16:12

don't know how those guys kick on the inside of

16:14

their foot. I'm amazed by that. I have to go just

16:16

straightforward, which is, I mean, not the best approach.

16:19

But there has to be some repetition involved

16:21

too. Because I do it once and I have to sit down because

16:23

my foot's hurting so bad, So maybe you have to

16:25

go to the soccer style. But absolutely

16:28

love that you were wearing the uh, I guess the

16:31

the Maze and.

16:32

Yellow family growing

16:34

up, so it was it was tough.

16:35

All right, we're gonna need to take our first break again. Eight

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five nine two a two two eight seven. Any questions

16:40

for coach Craig Skinner, a national championship

16:42

winner in the house. We'll talk about his team

16:45

and much more on the way here on the KSR pre Show.

16:48

All right, welcome back to

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Pre Show. Eight five nine two A two two

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eight seven Here in Lexington

16:57

with UK Volleyball coach Craig Skinner

17:00

and the dudes in Louisville. Shannon, one of those days where I wish

17:02

you were here because the stories off the air are better

17:04

than the ones on it.

17:05

Yeah, that's always the story.

17:07

Anytime we have a guest in some of the stuff you

17:09

can't maybe or maybe you don't feel comfortable talking

17:11

about on the air, the stories you get off the air are always

17:13

better. Absolutely.

17:15

Also, our resident dirt Finder Corey

17:17

Price tweeting out a picture of.

17:19

An old photo of coach Craig Skinner,

17:21

which I don't know.

17:22

Coach, what year do you think that was from? And is

17:24

a young coach Skinner there?

17:26

First of all, that's a long time ago. Second of all, I

17:28

don't know if that's pre or post mullet that I

17:30

had a Camaro mullet probably back in the day.

17:33

The looks of that picture you were working on your mullet

17:36

right there. I mean it looks like it's a it's a mullet and

17:38

progress.

17:39

A budding mullet. Yes, I like

17:41

that, So.

17:41

That had to be from high school. I'm guessing it looks like there.

17:44

That was Yeah, good old Munthsye, Indiana.

17:46

But I guess Corey says it's eighty four

17:48

eighty five, so that's freshman year in high school.

17:50

Wow, freshman year high school. And then the mullet

17:52

came shortly after that.

17:54

I don't know. It's probably a couple of different stints of the mullets,

17:56

so you probably an ear ring here or there

17:58

too.

17:58

So well, well, we will reiterate

18:01

the saying bald is beautiful.

18:02

You pull it off nicely.

18:03

Coach symmetry is good

18:05

when you have a good round here.

18:07

That's the key right there.

18:08

If you're going to be bald, you have to have the right

18:10

shape of head, because there's some people that have

18:12

an oblong head and it doesn't

18:14

work if you.

18:16

Don't have hair the

18:18

right shape ahead. And then also you

18:20

know, you have to decide to go fully

18:22

through it right. You know, some people try to hang on to

18:25

it for a while.

18:25

And the moment, there's

18:29

that moment. I was about twenty five years old, and that

18:31

moment came. I was running and I went by a barbershop

18:33

on like it's time. I

18:36

lost it early. So here we go. I been wearing it

18:38

proudly for a long time.

18:39

Before we move on, Shannon, what happened

18:41

to your Celtics?

18:42

I don't really want to talk about it, to be honest with

18:44

it. They didn't show up last night. I don't know if they

18:46

were just just just they thought

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they could cruise through this series or what, but they

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slash basketball terms. So holy night,

19:24

get back on track after last night's

19:26

debacle.

19:26

I know I bet on the Cavs a game too late.

19:29

I thought it was going to happen in game one. It happened in game

19:31

two.

19:32

They may need Larry Legend or Robert the Chief

19:34

Paris to barshoo the locker room tomorrow and give them

19:36

the pet talk.

19:37

They need something.

19:39

They wouldn't need a player like that. There's no doubt

19:41

Brad Stevens trying to get a title there. Not the

19:44

coach anymore, but the general manager. A

19:46

big night for PJ. Washington in that second

19:48

game as well. He had twenty nine points in

19:50

seven threes. Shay Gilgis Alexander had

19:52

thirty three points. Thirty

19:54

three points from Shay.

19:56

The guy's a machine.

19:56

He's a guy that not really many people

19:59

I think thought would have the success at the

20:01

next level that he's having. Coach, are

20:03

there any players for you that come to mind on the volleyball

20:05

team that maybe you didn't expect them to

20:08

be that much of a contributor that they were

20:10

by the time they left Kentucky or even when

20:12

they turned professional.

20:13

Oh man, there's there's several of those. I

20:15

mean, every coach has those stories. But

20:18

I'll tell you what. Watching Shy, you know, when he

20:20

was here, you saw moments You're

20:22

just like, wow, how did he do that? But

20:25

there's a couple kids, you know. One one

20:27

kid named Whitney Billings came in. She read to her freshman

20:30

year and I remember one of our junior senior setters

20:32

walks up and she goes, Coach, what are we doing?

20:34

This kid's never going to play for us? And I'm like, WHOA,

20:36

Okay, that's bold. And then she ended up being

20:38

a two time All American, you know, stuff like that. And there's

20:40

a kid that complained about every meal

20:42

that we ever had on the road. And whined

20:45

about this, wind about that, and then she went and played pro

20:47

for eight years and I have You know, when people wind to

20:49

complain about food and then go to Europe and play pro, it's

20:51

like, how did that? You know, crossover? But yeah,

20:54

there's several stories that that's happened, and

20:56

those are the most rewarding stories that keep you coming

20:58

back as a coach. None of us got in to

21:01

win championships. I mean, if they say they got into

21:03

win championship, are lying. You know, walk into coach

21:05

and say I'm gonna win championships. You walk in

21:07

to coach because you're a teacher, communicator,

21:10

educator, and you want to see people do

21:12

something better tomorrow they than they did today.

21:14

And that's what that's why we

21:16

do it.

21:17

Fulfilling to you a career that you have.

21:19

I mean you you you try and convince

21:22

your players, like, don't don't strive

21:24

for happiness. You want to strive for fulfillment.

21:26

I mean, fulfillment is long lasting and happiness

21:28

is a byproduct of fulfillment. So for us

21:31

as coaches, it's seeing people do things they've never

21:33

done before, seeing teams do things that maybe

21:35

people expect them to do, and that's

21:37

what keeps you coming back and gets you up every day.

21:39

Listen to these lessons he's spitting out, Shannon,

21:42

I'm ready to go right you know, Nick

21:45

Minchione doing Monday motivation.

21:47

I'm starting to get hyped right now.

21:48

Maybe we get you know, Coach Skinner on here for a little

21:50

motivation motivation Friday every week.

21:52

I'm ready. Let's go with that.

21:54

I absolutely love it. Uh eight five nine

21:56

two two eight seven is our phone number

21:58

if you'd like to jump on. We need to head to a break

22:00

here soon, Coach. We've

22:03

got a lot more we need to talk about, including your trip to

22:05

Japan coming up. I mean, that's insane.

22:07

I would be brushed up on your Japanese at all.

22:10

Can eat you wi. I don't even know what that means, but someone

22:12

told me that's a word over there, so I'm

22:15

working on it.

22:15

We'll work on that a little bit, but much

22:18

more on the way. Keep it locked where you got it. It's Shannon

22:20

the Dude and Billy Rutlish and Coach Craig Skinner here

22:22

on the ksrpre Show.

22:23

Welcome back.

22:24

It is the ksrpre Show Billy Rutledge

22:27

and Shannon the Dude, UK volleyball coach

22:29

Craig Skinner in the house with us if

22:31

you want to give us a call or tweet us at Billy

22:33

Our Sports and at Shannon the Dude. Nineteen

22:36

consecutive NCAA tournaments. It

22:38

is the school's all time leader in career

22:40

wins. Coach, it's a honor to

22:42

be with for you to be with us this

22:44

morning. But maybe was it your

22:46

two thousand and five season, your first season

22:48

with Kentucky that may have been one

22:51

of the more special ones for you. Kentucky hadn't made

22:53

an NCAA tournament in five years. You

22:55

come from Nebraska, it's your first head coaching

22:57

job, I believe.

22:58

Is that correct?

22:59

Do you look back at that time fondly or

23:01

you know kind of how far the program has come since

23:03

then?

23:04

Yeah? I mean I try and keep perspective

23:06

and try and even tell our players

23:08

we can't take anything for granted. But

23:10

that was absolutely one of the most rewarding

23:12

years because two reasons.

23:15

One, we get absolutely annihilated

23:17

in our first SEC match by Auburn three zero,

23:19

and then then two days later we beat Auburn

23:21

and I get or beat Alabama. I get in the locker room

23:23

when one of our seniors is crying. I'm like, what are you crying

23:25

for? We just want They go we haven't beat Alabama

23:28

nine years and I'm like what. And

23:31

then you know, the NCAA Tournament selection

23:33

show comes up and it goes all the way

23:35

through the bracket, all the way through the bracket. We are the

23:38

last pod that has shown, and

23:40

the kids are just emotional, crying, They're jumping

23:42

up and down. And so when you see those

23:44

things happen, you don't ever want

23:46

to take for granted making the NCAA Tournament because it is

23:49

not easy. And you

23:51

know, I think sometimes, you know, people

23:53

in our program get a little comfortable and it's like,

23:55

oh, we've done this, this is what we're gonna do. No, it doesn't

23:58

happen that way. You got to earn it every single season.

24:00

Shannon, He's been a model of consistency

24:02

for twenty years now at the university.

24:04

I mean, hell, any sport that's hard to do.

24:06

So I mean, i mean we've got not only a national championship

24:09

winner, but a guy that's been doing it for a long time.

24:10

Long as tenured coach at Kentucky. Is that right?

24:13

Trying to think is the other coaches the

24:16

other sports, I don't know.

24:18

I bet you got a name one. There's only

24:20

one.

24:20

There's one other one.

24:21

Yep. He's won a lot more national

24:23

championships than we have.

24:25

Oh, rifle, rifle here, Okay,

24:28

I got it.

24:29

Oh you're right there, though, No.

24:30

Cedar Kaufman was an assistant for Dennis Semmery,

24:33

so I think he's Yeah, it's

24:35

I mean, in the Joe Craft Center, there's

24:37

I mean, our staff is intact, but the

24:40

entire basketball staffs, I mean, there's it can't

24:42

tell you how many people have come and gone, but

24:45

model of consistence like you guys, I mean, you guys have been

24:47

killing it for the last few years. And KSR has

24:49

been killing for a few years. I mean, that's that's

24:51

the rocks in the community of sports here in Lexington.

24:54

KSR has been doing it for about a decade now. Shannon

24:56

the dude much longer as an intern

24:58

with iHeart years.

25:01

This is about twentieth year.

25:02

Let's go.

25:03

I feel old.

25:04

I mean looking at that picture yesterday

25:06

of Trent and Noah and he

25:08

was doing the John Wall dance and he's a little kid.

25:10

I'm going now that kid is playing for Kentucky, who

25:13

it goes by quick. Hey, I want to ask you about

25:15

your trip to Japan. So first of all, have you

25:17

ever been to Japan or is this your first

25:20

trip there?

25:21

Never been to Japan, And that's a big reason

25:23

why we're going. I get a little bit selfish

25:25

sometimes when we decide where we're going to go with these

25:27

foreign trips. We went to Europe in ten, then we went

25:30

to China in twenty fourteen, in Brazil and nineteen

25:32

and now Japan. So I'm

25:34

super thrilled yet getting.

25:36

I'm looking at your match schedule here,

25:38

looks like you got three matches. You're

25:41

there for what eleven days? So

25:44

we'll like, do you have a checklist of things that you want

25:46

to see while you're there when you're not focusing

25:48

on volleyball.

25:49

Yeah, it's so fluid too, because

25:51

when you're on trips like that, you just got

25:53

to adapt and go with the flow. And because we

25:55

already have we have two more matches that we got to get

25:58

on the website, and yeah,

26:00

we'll do a lot of different We'll be in three different cities,

26:02

we'll see some sites and I don't even know exactly.

26:04

We have a company that we've been using

26:07

called Bring it that does these tours

26:09

all over the world, and they'll have it all

26:11

mapped out for us. We have a guide with us

26:13

who's a men's coach in California, then a guide

26:15

on the ground in tokyot to

26:17

be this the whole time. Another guide will be in one city.

26:20

So it's just such a life experience that

26:22

our players have no idea about what they're about

26:25

ready to experience. And that's as much of doing

26:27

something like this as it is for the volleyball. I mean, we might

26:29

get a couple of good volleyball matches, but I mean,

26:31

you know how the basketball tours are and sometimes

26:33

they annihilate them. So are you really getting something out

26:35

of it? But you're getting a life experience

26:37

when you go to some place like Japan.

26:39

Billy, do you say, Billy, do you have your

26:41

passport?

26:41

Maybe you know we do these trips on extra ticket

26:44

there you go, see we travel with the Kentucky basketball

26:47

team. Maybe we can make a trip to Japan with the volleyball

26:49

team.

26:49

Billy, I do have my passport, Coach,

26:51

so you know, maybe we talk off there about talk

26:54

off air, but you.

26:55

Know, Billy always, Billy has a good way of

26:57

like just squirming his way into situations,

26:59

you know. I mean, hey, you want to include me just

27:02

trying to get the extra ticket to the John Legend

27:04

Show tonight from me? I mean he's you know, he's

27:06

at he's in the paddock, he's interviewing, interviewing

27:08

jockeys, and he has a way of getting

27:10

into places.

27:11

Listen, I learned the answer is no unless

27:13

you ask. That's true, that there's no doubt that's right.

27:16

Okay, we will do anything to get more time on the

27:18

pre show or part of you guys. I mean, anything

27:20

that you need, we will do.

27:21

Did you find that in years past when you went on

27:24

a trip like this that the team was closer

27:26

maybe the team bonding aspect of a trip like.

27:28

This, Yeah, there's no

27:30

way. It's impossible for them not to be because

27:33

every single player is out

27:35

of their daily routine comfort zone.

27:37

So they have a common shared experience. And

27:39

if you have a common shared experience, then you can pull

27:41

from that for the rest of the season. And

27:44

some of it's positive, so much tough. I mean there's gonna

27:46

be some tough times that they're like, I'm tired,

27:48

you know, we just why are we going again? Why

27:50

are we traveling this and we have to stay

27:52

at this you know, tour facility, whatever

27:54

it is, for another forty five minutes. Yes, we

27:56

do, and we have to you know, overcome it. And

27:59

so the food, I mean, there's already

28:01

a few players are like sushi. I

28:03

don't know, is there anything else? I

28:05

mean a package are a peanut butter. I don't know what to tell

28:07

you. Yes, you're just gonna have to figure it out.

28:09

So it's hard to order chicken nuggets

28:11

at every restaurant that you go to. And I'm

28:13

sure some people still have that palette.

28:15

Yes, and Kentucky Fried Chicken in China is

28:17

not the same as Kentucky Fried Chicken Kentucky.

28:19

I can promise you that, Oh, you're gonna have to try

28:21

it and compare.

28:23

There's no doubt. You know.

28:24

Something else to be excited for is Memorial Coliseum.

28:27

I mean going through a huge renovation that should be

28:29

ready by the time the season starts.

28:31

Right, we're supposed to be playing there in August

28:33

twenty third, and my good friend and Capital

28:35

Projects says there's no plan B, so we're

28:38

totally planned on being there. We yesterday

28:40

just went through some plans for a locker room and things

28:42

like that. So just an amazing

28:45

time and to have that facility is going to

28:47

be significant and it'll be,

28:49

you know, arguably the best volleyball facility in the country.

28:51

And obviously we're sharing with basketball gymnastics,

28:53

which is awesome, but what a great venue

28:55

for women's athletics.

28:56

Absolutely, Shannon. Maybe we can get there down

28:58

for a game this year.

29:00

You know, we we've been talking about doing a baseball game

29:02

and a volleyball game and this and that. I

29:04

think we finally just got to start doing that and put together

29:06

our own checklist and go and

29:08

and do a show there.

29:09

From it, I want to take it personal. If you guys

29:11

don't show up for a game, we got you.

29:13

You got to buy lunch for you. We're all really

29:16

was talking about some nice steak restaurant here

29:18

in town. I'll all take you guys to get some get

29:20

some food there if you come.

29:21

And we'll try the crab cakes, not the crabs and the oyster

29:24

sham.

29:24

Oh yeah, away from that. Did

29:26

you tell a coach about that?

29:28

Yeah, I had to talk about that, Lucky

29:30

for some I don't know if I saw it that way,

29:33

Coach. I got another old story for you.

29:34

I want to confirm it.

29:35

We talked about you suiting

29:37

up for the University of Michigan as a kicker

29:40

and punter. I also read that when you

29:42

were at a as an assistant at Nebraska,

29:44

that they made a metal monument for

29:47

you that you said that you didn't

29:49

want.

29:49

Is that true?

29:50

Oh my gosh, some someone probably

29:53

made that up. I don't remember that. No, I

29:55

do not remember that.

29:56

I was going to say, if they were making monuments for you

29:58

as an assistant coach, you must made.

30:00

Absolutely not that no assistant

30:02

should take credit for the success we had at Nebraska.

30:04

I can promise you that.

30:05

Well that's that. Wikipedia strikes again,

30:07

Shannon, dude. You can't ever close it. You

30:10

can't ever trust.

30:11

You're doing your show prep on Wikipedia.

30:13

No, it's it's one of many sources. I

30:15

don't think that's one to poop

30:17

poop. So now we know we can remove

30:19

that from Wikipedia. We have confirmed that is

30:21

not correct. We'll take that one off and add

30:23

another falsified story. Coach,

30:26

Right, that's right.

30:27

Well, we don't want to spread misinformation.

30:29

But I thought you were going to bring up pole vaulting in eighth

30:31

grade or something. But we wait a minute, now,

30:33

is.

30:35

Did you do that? Does that?

30:36

I did pull vault in the City champ

30:38

in eighth grade and months the Indiana pole vaulting, so that

30:40

that was an experience. I did crush the

30:43

concrete on the side of the mat at one point

30:45

when I missed when I missed the mat on the other side,

30:47

But yeah, that was enjoyable.

30:49

Wow, City champion too.

30:50

Well, let's let's take in perspective where

30:52

I was.

30:53

How big was like, what's the population of that

30:55

set?

30:55

Four?

30:57

Seven or eight? I mean, come on, give me a little credit.

31:00

That's great.

31:01

How do you how do you even get into

31:03

pull vaulting? Coach?

31:04

Is that just something you picked up as a kid or.

31:06

What it's the coach says, say

31:08

Skinner, you look like.

31:12

You're trying to fill the roster.

31:15

Talk about an interesting sport to be in. Yeah,

31:17

Craig Skinner, the head volleyball coach at the University

31:20

of Kentucky. Uh, you've been around

31:22

for a while, so you've been able to develop

31:24

relationships with people in the athletic department,

31:26

whether it be Mitch Barnhart, maybe we with coach

31:29

Caliperry who just left, with nickmngione,

31:31

who's on a run for himself right now,

31:33

and and.

31:34

I'm sure that's probably an under.

31:37

An overlooked thing when it comes

31:39

to the coaching profession, is getting along with the people

31:41

that you work with.

31:42

Yeah, there is not one person that

31:45

I have come in contact, whether you head, coaches,

31:47

you know, administrators, Mitch, you know Capaluto,

31:52

and that you haven't pulled something from

31:54

them, you know, I mean you all coaches

31:57

have egos and think that their message is the greatest

31:59

things in slice spread, but you know it's

32:01

not. But we've were good thieves. We've

32:03

stolen a lot of things from different people and claim it

32:05

to be our own or try and mold

32:07

things into what your philosophy might be. But so

32:10

many awesome coaches that I've come in conflict

32:12

and gotten to know, and administrators and people

32:14

have really impacted me personally and our

32:17

program. So it's what a There's not a

32:19

better learning environment than a situation like

32:21

that.

32:21

A lot of humility in your voice there saying

32:23

that all coaches are thieves, taking

32:26

ideas from other people and then implementing as

32:28

their own. You know, I think there is a

32:30

degree to that because you had to learn it from somebody

32:32

else. And I'm sure as your time as an

32:34

assistant at Nebraska, you kind of learned

32:36

what you wanted to do and then you were able to implement

32:38

it at your own program.

32:40

Yeah, it's got to be your voice. I mean, your player's

32:42

got to know that it's coming from you and this

32:44

is your way of doing it. So you can't try and act

32:47

like Nick Saban, you can't try and act

32:49

like Mark Pope, you can't try and act like Nick Min's

32:51

Jem. But you have to be yourself and

32:53

pull things from other people and really form

32:55

your philosophy. And there might be times

32:58

when like, you know, what a great idea that I have

33:00

here, when that's actually three or four different things

33:02

from three or four different people. But

33:05

man, it's such an awesome time in

33:07

our in our department with you know, the way

33:09

things are going and exciting times, you know, come

33:11

up for basketball and football in the fall, and and

33:14

but tennis and baseball killing it right

33:16

now. So it's it's awesome.

33:17

And before we take one of our final breaks of the

33:19

show, our final break, you know, I'm

33:22

sure you're The way that you coach these kids

33:24

has also changed over the years. I mean, would

33:26

you agree with the generational difference

33:28

between the kids that you're getting today compared

33:30

to the ones maybe back in two thousand and five.

33:32

Well, I think it's both evolving

33:35

with the times, but also as a coach maturing. I

33:37

mean I was telling kids in my

33:39

car, my son and a couple of buddies. I used to you know, scream

33:42

and yell at different times, and people weren't you know, lack of

33:44

effort. And I don't need to do that as

33:46

much just because the way. Look, it's

33:48

we're structure our way. This is a learning environment.

33:50

We will figure it out. We're going to get there. We're going to fail,

33:53

but we got to get Now. There's a certain level of

33:55

intensity you have to have as a coach, but it

33:57

definitely changes over time. And I

34:00

think that athletes are a lot more a

34:02

lot better at receiving information instruction

34:04

as long as they respect the person's coming from

34:07

you know, So you have to you have to earn that trust

34:09

and respect before you get them to really buy

34:11

in. And that's that should be the case.

34:13

Well, we've seen them buy in.

34:14

Coach.

34:15

I mean, you've had a lot of postseason's success

34:17

as of late. You've been doing a great job, and that's

34:19

a testament to your coaching style.

34:21

There's no doubt.

34:22

We do need to take one more break eight five nine

34:24

two oh two two eight seven Billy Rutli, Shannon

34:26

the Dude and UK Volleyball coach Craig Skinner.

34:28

And we'll be right back.

34:30

Welcome back. It is the KSR

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pre Show. KSR is next from ten

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34:39

UK Volleyball coach Craig Skinner. Before we do that,

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A couple of housekeeping notes. We mentioned it earlier

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in the show. The UK tennis team plays tomorrow

35:26

against Harvard here at the University

35:29

of Kentucky. Meanwhile, the baseball team's

35:31

game got moved up today due to weather. So

35:33

I believe first pitch is at one pm on

35:35

the road in Gainesville against the Florida Gators.

35:38

Coach you know, our own Shannon the dude was a former

35:40

college baseball player as well.

35:42

So he's he's stranger

35:45

one Bellerman University.

35:46

Let's go.

35:47

Yeah, how many of the back then we were D two? Wasn't

35:49

like it was a D one player. Hey, I'll take

35:51

it.

35:52

You know, So, what do you like better, wrestling

35:54

or baseball?

35:56

Well, you know, baseball required

35:58

a lot of running. Most of my baseball

36:01

career as a pitcher, we spent more

36:03

time conditioning than running.

36:05

Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.

36:07

While the rest of the team was out there taking

36:09

BP, we were running

36:11

polls and just just doing

36:13

anything that we could to build up our

36:16

cardio. So I actually hated that.

36:18

That was the worst part about being a pitcher.

36:20

So that's the worst part about being a parent when you have

36:22

to pick up your son after baseball a baseball

36:24

game and the pitcher's got to run ten poles and the other

36:26

kids are waiting for the coach.

36:28

Yeah, exactly, So

36:30

I think I'd probably pick wrestling at this point in my life.

36:33

And don't let him fool you. He may have been a pitcher,

36:35

but he mostly played left out or right

36:37

bench.

36:39

Yeah, that's exactly right.

36:41

Now, You're right.

36:43

I cannot dispute that, you

36:46

know something outside of the sports world. It was announced,

36:48

i think yesterday, that Peacock it

36:50

will have a spin off of The Office that

36:52

is in the works right now.

36:54

It's in the same universe.

36:55

It will follow the same documentary crew that

36:57

filmed The Office, but they will be filming

37:00

a historic Midwestern newspaper

37:03

that is dying and the publisher is trying

37:05

to revive it with volunteer reporters.

37:07

So all the Office fans that is in

37:10

the works. Coach, do you have any TV shows

37:12

that you're watching right now? Any recommendations.

37:16

That's a good question. I

37:18

wouldn't say I'm a huge TV person. I

37:21

just I love sports, you know. I just watch a ton of

37:23

sports and love watching golf and ment

37:25

to that, I only watch the NBA when it's the playoffs.

37:27

You know, I just love the playoffs and college

37:29

basketball, college volleyball. But

37:33

you're locked in on sports. I'm locked in, and that's

37:35

what you should. I got to do a better job of watching

37:38

things like the office and parks and rec and things

37:40

like that that my staff is all, you know, knows all

37:42

about. But you know, we'll get there.

37:44

I'll throw one out there for you. What

37:46

do you got, you know, Billy, I like documentaries,

37:49

not necessarily big on shows because

37:51

it just takes too much of my time. You know, when

37:53

you've got seven or eight episodes

37:55

on, they're each an hour long. But if

37:57

you haven't seen it yet, check out the Michael

38:00

J. Fox documentary called Still. It

38:02

talks about his battle with Parkins's

38:05

disease and just throughout

38:07

his career and how that, you know, sort

38:09

of changed his life and changed his career when

38:11

he got that disease. It's a really powerful documentary.

38:14

So it's not that long maybe an hour twenty

38:16

something like that, but I would definitely suggest watching that if

38:18

you get a chance.

38:19

Good for your short attention span, Shannon, I love

38:21

the recommendation. I'll quickly throw one out there.

38:23

Amazon has a new series called Fallout.

38:26

It's based on a video game, and it's a lot

38:28

like the Last of Us, which is that zombie apocalyptic

38:32

show on HBO. So if you're looking for

38:34

something, you got Still and you also

38:36

got Fallout Coach, so there you go.

38:38

I liked, you know, the Jordan documentary that

38:40

was I grew up through that in the thirty for thirties.

38:42

And my daughter actually wrote her

38:45

college entrance paper on

38:47

Dennis Robman after watching thirty for thirty

38:49

on the Bad Boys back in the day, which is crazy,

38:51

but she wrote a really cool paper for

38:54

college entrance exams.

38:55

You could write much more than just an entrance

38:57

exam on Dennis Rodman Man.

38:59

She was very creative with it. It's his own documentary.

39:01

Well, you know, you got that long flight to Japan,

39:04

so you could download if you have an iPad, just download

39:06

these documentary recommendations

39:09

and there you go.

39:09

There's your entertainment for.

39:11

Your there's thirteen hours.

39:12

Let's go there you go exactly. I

39:14

think that is perfect.

39:16

Some other news just announced yesterday

39:18

the NCAA approved a blanket waiver

39:21

allowing unlimited official

39:23

visits for recruits starting in July

39:26

thirty first, twenty twenty five. It's

39:28

good we're getting that out of the way, coach, right, Or is

39:30

it that does that unleash the floodgates for anybody

39:32

to just come visit your program?

39:34

I mean, it just raises costs, and I think the INSTABA

39:37

is just trying to, you know, cover

39:39

up the you know, the issues that are going on and try

39:41

and catch up because it's it's happening so fast

39:43

that the whole governance structure trying

39:45

to keep up with all the change that in Double A, you

39:48

know, is is really hard to keep up with. So

39:50

it's but the number of visits, man,

39:52

I just can't imagine the official visits that they're going through

39:54

right now in BASS, both wins and men's of basketball. It's crazy.

39:56

They may not even be interested in your school, but

39:59

they can now go on official visit.

40:01

Right and if they feel like they're gonna

40:03

get what they need both playing wise

40:05

and financially, then or they don't, then

40:07

they're going somewhere else. And yeah, I mean it's

40:09

it's a tough You want to have a good idea that

40:11

they're super excited about your school before you bring

40:13

one a visit. If they're kind of lukewarm, it's like whoa.

40:15

Yeah, and you used a good word catching up.

40:17

I feel like the NCAA has been doing a lot of that lately

40:19

as they've been behind the eight ball as of late.

40:22

Coach, we don't have a lot of time left, so I do want

40:24

to thank.

40:25

You for joining us here on the pre show this morning, and

40:27

best of luck to your trip to Japan. It's

40:30

gonna be a great team bonding experience with the

40:32

group. And I'm sure you.

40:34

Know we're gonna keep our word.

40:35

We're gonna be heading up to one of these games, and we'd

40:37

love to have you on the show before the season starts

40:39

to kind of you know, preview what's next and check

40:42

in after the trip.

40:43

I'd love to be here, And yeah, let me know any

40:45

time, and I'll give you some feedback

40:47

on the trip when we get back. I'll give some critiques.

40:50

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I have one fortune cookie left at the house,

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and I left it at my house. Okay, so I'm

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sorry, all right're gonna have to go to Happy China

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gets disappointing fortune cookies. But

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we've we've dropped all this knowledge

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today. Coach Skinner has been our fortune cookie.

41:33

I feel like so we thank him.

41:35

Thank you again, Coach. Appreciate you, guys, Thank

41:37

you, Coach Shannon.

41:39

I will I won't see you tonight. My dog's

41:42

in the hospital, so I can't.

41:42

Go to the show.

41:43

All right, get well soon, great, we'll have a good time tonight.

41:46

All right.

41:46

For Shannon the dude, I'm Billy Reutlius. This has been the ks A

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pre show