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Time for that. Once a welcome

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1:38

Sean. Davis Shot: Are you doing. I'm

1:41

doing alright and excited to to

1:43

talk smokers basketball finally with no

1:46

expected interruptions this time. We've

1:49

got. We do have a lot to talk

1:52

about but we just watch the game just

1:54

ended what you're twenty thirty minutes ago that

1:56

the next go up to all. Over.

1:58

the pacers add I

2:00

just hope the Knicks have a team left by

2:02

the time they get to the end of the

2:05

series OGN and nobody hurt Jayla Brunson is now

2:07

dealing with an injury Like

2:09

they just lost lost Mitchell Robinson

2:13

And look, I'm not a huge Knicks fan But

2:15

all I see is the path for

2:18

the Celtics getting clearer and clearer It's like

2:20

every team is just falling by the wayside

2:22

and just going up go ahead go right

2:24

on ahead to the finals It's driving me

2:26

crazy Yeah,

2:28

no, it's insane There's

2:32

a part of me that hopes that this

2:34

lack of like opt I was about to

2:36

say optimism this lack of adversity that Boston's

2:38

seeing in the Eastern Conference is going to

2:40

get them Messed up in

2:42

the in a potential files match up against whoever

2:44

comes out of the West because whoever

2:46

comes out of the West is gonna be battle tested and

2:49

If they throw a punch at Boston, that's

2:51

really awesome I'm worried about or I'm curious

2:54

about rather Trev is when that

2:56

team does finally throw a real legitimate

2:58

punch at Boston How are they gonna

3:00

respond? So yeah, New York, please Be

3:03

like have a team heading

3:05

into that a conference files

3:07

matchup with with Boston a

3:09

potential. Yeah Yes, definitely

3:11

need that definitely need that. All right on

3:14

the Lakers front We've got plenty to

3:16

talk about on today's show the coaching

3:19

search in particular. It's starting

3:21

to get It's getting

3:23

a little bit more crowded it why I've been talking about

3:25

this that you know This isn't this

3:27

isn't the type of situation where you're gonna hear

3:29

five names or something and that's gonna be it

3:31

cuz that's really What we've heard so far. It's

3:33

been it's been Jason Kidd who signed the extension

3:36

with the Mavs It's been ty Lou who probably

3:38

is gonna sign the extension with the Clippers hasn't

3:40

happened yet, though Probably gonna

3:42

happen. We've heard Mike Boudin Holzer. We've

3:44

heard Kenny Atkinson. We've heard JJ Reddick

3:46

It's mostly been those five names Dan

3:49

Woyke of the LA Times had a piece out today Where

3:52

he explained there's some other names that

3:54

are in the mix as well. He's

3:56

got Denver's David Adelman Minnesota's

4:00

Mike and Nori. We've got Bostets, Charles Lee.

4:02

We've talked a little bit about him. And

4:04

then Dallas is Sean Sweeney. I

4:06

think there's going to be even more names than just this,

4:08

Sean. I think they are going to continue to cast a

4:10

wide net, but the fact that we've

4:13

heard we're now adding more names to

4:15

the mix, that's a good thing for

4:17

the Lakers in my opinion. Yeah,

4:19

absolutely. It gives me some optimism about

4:21

the that they're, you know, doing their

4:23

due diligence with this process. The

4:26

Sean Sweeney name kind of surprised me a little

4:28

bit. I didn't think they would, they

4:31

would internally view him as a

4:33

potential candidate. I do personally

4:35

need to do more research on Sean Sweeney.

4:38

I've got a couple people that seem that they

4:41

would be interested, people talking about him in my

4:43

mentions. The other three

4:45

names, I mean, we already heard about Charles Lee, but I'm

4:49

excited that they are giving

4:52

David Adelman and Mike and Nori, you know,

4:55

actual looks and giving them consideration. There

4:59

was a, I don't know if it's a part of this

5:01

quote, I don't think it is, but there was a part

5:03

of the damn winky piece that,

5:06

yeah, my bad. There's

5:10

a part of the piece that refers

5:12

to the Lakers would like a

5:14

veteran head coach, correct? Yes.

5:20

There is a desire to find someone with

5:22

experience. Sure. But

5:24

they aren't solely focused on that. And

5:26

there's a part earlier where

5:28

winky makes it sound like they're really just

5:31

looking at, here it is. There's

5:33

a strong sense Lakers are putting a

5:35

premium on experience in this search, following

5:37

trends where they have, of course,

5:40

corrected from one decision by doing the opposite.

5:44

But then he does say, hey, but that doesn't

5:46

mean they're not going to consider first

5:48

time head coaches. So, so when

5:51

I read that, my mind immediately goes Kenny, acts

5:53

in Mike Bruno's or that that's

5:55

where my mind immediately goes because Tyler and

5:58

Jason kid are. Probably

6:00

out of this right? Jason

6:03

kid already, you know signing extension

6:07

He's out Tyloo I

6:09

would almost bank on being out at

6:11

this point So now you're

6:14

really just kind of boiling it down to

6:16

but Boonos or Kenny accident in my opinion,

6:18

right? Just based off the guys we've heard

6:20

that absolutely kind

6:22

of like Ax

6:26

is out JJ Riddick although like the

6:28

rest of the piece says they are

6:30

willing to like give somebody with the

6:32

with no head coaching experience and opportunity

6:34

Based off obviously how the process works out how

6:36

they interview stuff like that. But Kenny

6:39

acts and the more I think about it the more and more

6:41

I Try to convince

6:43

myself. I do like it a little bit more

6:46

the more I the more I do think about

6:48

it primarily if he is able

6:50

to Take some of

6:52

the stuff you learn from Golden State in

6:54

a Martin a Mike Brown Esquae where Mike

6:56

Brown had his trials and tribulations

6:59

if you will goes to Golden State

7:01

and is there for a

7:03

few years with a couple of playoff games with Steve Kerber's deal

7:05

with that back issue and Goes

7:08

to Sacramento and oh my

7:10

god Sacramento is now amongst like the

7:12

five most fun offenses in the NBA

7:15

So that's kind of what it broke from

7:17

an outsider perspective That's what I would be

7:19

like kind of selling myself on I would

7:21

need to go back and kind of watch

7:23

Kenny Atkinson's Nets offenses to try to get

7:26

a better idea or just the net doesn't

7:28

seem in general to get a better idea

7:30

of What if we don't get

7:32

that what is Kenny Atkinson's so it'll

7:34

be fun You know, I

7:36

think part of it too is gonna come down to what

7:39

are they willing to consider from the assistant coach

7:41

side of things? I

7:44

think the Lakers if they do pick Somebody

7:46

who doesn't have head coaching experience if it's not Kenny

7:48

I could say if it's not Mike Boonholzer It's

7:51

not say a Terry Stotts or somebody like that

7:53

Mark Jackson Whoever else you want throw in there

7:55

that has had coaching experience if it's not any

7:57

of those guys You

7:59

guys out of wonder how much influence

8:02

are the Lakers going to want to have with

8:04

the assistant coach choices

8:06

because as Dan noted,

8:09

and I think rightfully noted that what

8:11

the Lakers tend to do is

8:13

they go for the opposite of what they had

8:15

previously, which is pretty normal, right?

8:17

I mean, it's kind of, it's what, it's what

8:20

we do in general. Sometimes that

8:22

can lead you to overcorrect, but

8:24

as human beings, we go for the, if something

8:27

is not working, we go find something that's the

8:29

opposite of that. If you're dating a blonde and

8:31

it goes terribly, you probably go try to find

8:33

a brunette, right? Oh my God. Hey,

8:38

it's true. It's true. But

8:41

in this case, the leather, the blonde before, maybe

8:43

I should try it. I

8:48

wouldn't recommend it, but all

8:53

blondes out there are immediately now

8:55

sending people DMS to Trevor. Oh

8:59

no. Past experience. Past experience. I need to

9:01

hit my line. So

9:06

we've got, you've got a Lakers

9:08

team that went from Frank Vogel who struggled connecting,

9:11

communicating with the players, right? That was an issue.

9:13

So they go to Darvin Ham who, his whole

9:15

thing is he's going to be this great communicator.

9:17

The players are going to want to run through

9:19

a brick wall for all that kind of stuff.

9:22

Downside being he's the first year head coach, that

9:24

type of thing. So the

9:26

belief would be that since they went

9:28

with the opposite of Frank Fogel, they found a guy they

9:30

thought was going to be great at communicating

9:32

with the players. She was going to be a player's coach.

9:34

All that the opposite of

9:37

Darwin would be somebody who is

9:39

really good tactically, really good with the X's

9:41

and O's really great in terms of in-game

9:43

adjustments and that sort of thing. Does

9:46

that, is that still Kenny Atkinson?

9:48

Who does that suggest to you

9:50

if, if we

9:52

are looking for the anti-Darvin at this

9:54

point? about

10:00

Kenny in Brooklyn I think

10:03

isn't good enough right now

10:06

to have a true answer about that with Kenny Atkinson.

10:10

Part of me almost kind of wants to say Bud a

10:12

little bit right I don't think Bud's really been you know

10:16

noted as a player's coach if you

10:18

will right I think actually

10:20

Bud tactically is pretty fine it's just

10:22

when you when a team does

10:26

the thing that like counters Bud's scheme so I

10:28

always go back to that Boston series in 22

10:30

ironically the year he gets fired right and

10:33

Boston is just killing them with

10:36

threes right and obviously Middleton gets hurt and

10:38

that does change the series but

10:41

Middleton is just I mean Boston is just

10:43

killing them with threes and

10:45

Bud's just saying they're going

10:48

nope we're gonna keep running drop

10:50

coverage and we're gonna help off the

10:52

corners and we're gonna keep giving Jaylen

10:54

Brown and Jason Tatum wide-ass open threes

10:56

use my language but like that's what

10:58

they were doing. We just live

11:00

that. We just live that. We get to last year

11:02

living that life. Now I'll give

11:04

him credit in his own right like he is he

11:08

did a much better job of getting that

11:10

kind of scheme to work in

11:13

Milwaukee very much done

11:15

a great he also had Drew Holiday so you

11:17

know takes that with the greatest

11:19

off there but I think

11:21

that I am

11:24

really excited honestly about like I'm starting to

11:26

get excited about like the the list of

11:28

options we have I mean so far we've

11:30

heard Kenny Atkinson, Bud, Mike

11:32

and Nori, David Adelman,

11:35

Artie Atkinson, Charles Lee, Sean

11:38

Sweeney, JJ Redick. I'm

11:40

surprised unless I missed it Trevor like a Chris

11:43

Quinn from Miami has been mentioned a

11:45

ton recently. Terry

11:49

really hasn't been mentioned a ton but those are two

11:51

guys that I would expect to get thrown

11:53

into the hat pretty soon if they

11:56

haven't already and then

11:58

you have JJ Redick So I have

12:01

all right actually do this then chat and Trevor

12:03

if you had to give a top

12:06

three right now What will be your top three? You

12:08

don't have to like rank them. You can rank them everyone to

12:10

do it it's probably

12:12

a Boudinhoser at Atkinson

12:15

and I'm

12:19

intrigued by David Adelman. Okay

12:22

chat BC

12:26

says anyone news Already

12:28

been a head coach. So Atkinson

12:30

Jackson Lou bud kids, so we'll

12:32

scratch off Lewin kid I

12:35

can almost assure you Mark Jackson isn't really

12:37

an option. So I'll replace Mark Jackson for

12:39

you with Terry stops How about that? Okay

12:42

Jay Wicks a shard Trevor and see

12:44

what? Mike

12:49

an or II David Alma JJ says how the

12:51

case so my would probably be right

12:54

now I'm Against

12:56

just the idea I think of Atkinson really kind

12:58

of intrigues me right now So

13:01

I would go Atkinson Adam and Nori. I

13:04

Would go the two assistants in Atkinson. I

13:07

have to refresh myself on both Atkinson

13:09

and Boudinhoser but those

13:11

would be So those would

13:13

be my for technically if I was

13:16

cheating but that's my

13:18

top three so Regardless

13:21

we know the Lakers they're going to

13:24

take their time with this That's what we've heard right now

13:26

that was mentioned in the Dan Wike piece. They're gonna take

13:28

their time with this There they haven't

13:30

even started interviewing or even requesting interviews with

13:32

anybody just yet So it's not like they're

13:34

gonna announce tomorrow They pick person X as

13:36

their head coach But I think part of

13:38

that is they're waiting to see do the

13:40

extension talks with Tai Lue and the Clippers

13:43

Actually come to fruition or

13:45

do they start to fall apart because if they

13:47

fall apart if Tai Lue suddenly becomes in any

13:50

way available Remember he's under contract with the Clippers

13:52

for another year. Yeah, but if he becomes in

13:54

any way available I think the

13:56

Lakers would hire him tomorrow like they would just

13:58

they would they would That's that's my

14:01

belief because I don't think they're a

14:03

guy Yeah, I think that's the

14:05

guy that they that they want. Yeah,

14:07

I love it. I don't think he's gonna be available

14:09

I think it's a long shot, but they're

14:11

probably thinking hey, you know What if we

14:13

start interviews next week and that way if

14:15

anything, you know happens to fall

14:17

through with the Clippers and Tyler? Where

14:20

we haven't hired somebody yet and we can you know

14:22

get him into the mix. So Alright,

14:25

let me get into some of the questions and comments here Tyler

14:28

said what do you think about the rumors of

14:30

Jimmy Butler to LA? Those are real.

14:32

I Have an

14:35

Ivan heard anything real? I

14:38

haven't heard anything or seen anything real about Jimmy Butler

14:40

to LA but I'll tell you this He

14:44

wants an extent. He wants a

14:46

max contract. That's what Jimmy Butler wants.

14:49

Yeah For him to get

14:51

that there have to there has to be other

14:53

teams out there that want Jimmy Butler There

14:55

has to be has to be a credible threat, right?

14:58

And so Philly Philly's gonna be

15:00

the boogeyman for a lot of soon

15:02

to be free agents guys in that situation Same thing

15:04

with Orlando. So I Don't

15:07

know that I buy it like if if

15:09

Jimmy Butler was just a he's

15:11

on an expiring contract and he wants to

15:13

come to LA Sure. Okay, but

15:16

if you got to give him a max contract, I Would

15:19

be a little concerned about that given his age you'd be

15:22

good Look, he'd be a great fit with LeBron ad no

15:24

problem there but I

15:26

Don't think Jimmy Butler is the guy you

15:28

go all in to go get and Pat

15:31

Riley flat-out said no We're not trading him

15:33

now that could obviously change in the next

15:35

month and a half or whatever But I

15:38

don't think that's happening. I don't think Jimmy Butler to

15:40

LA is a thing I think Jimmy Butler needs other

15:42

teams out there to act as a threat to tell

15:44

Miami Hey, these teams want me these teams would give

15:46

me a max extension. Now you guys need to do

15:48

that I

15:50

don't think him coming to the Lakers is a

15:53

real thing though This

15:56

really quickly goes back to the coaching

15:58

discussion we were having Um,

16:01

no chauncey bilups. I'm i'm

16:03

already thinking a little bit Absolutely

16:06

not That's

16:10

fair that's fair mama

16:12

do some minnesota reminds me of the 2020 lakers yes That

16:17

I mean it's kind of how you know, a

16:19

lot of people talk about oh minnesota was built

16:21

to beat denver Uh

16:24

initially minute, I mean the go bear piece

16:26

sure But I think the initial

16:29

idea behind minnesota was Looking

16:31

what the lakers did Super

16:33

switchable on defense. They've got this

16:35

length. They've got guys like kcp

16:37

caruso danny green Anthony davis,

16:39

of course lebron james. They've got all these all

16:41

these lanky defenders that can go do things That

16:44

it's really the lakers model from

16:47

2020 That the wolves

16:49

are built around so when you say they they

16:51

remind you the 2020 lakers, yeah, they they probably

16:53

should I mean you've got

16:55

your three bags that you can rotate through

16:59

um You've got Your

17:02

really good wing defender. You've got

17:04

your guards that are pretty quick and pretty

17:06

scrappy There's

17:08

some differences for sure but The

17:10

idea is we're going to shut you down defensively and

17:12

we're going to let that Be our

17:15

bread and butter and that's what minnesota is doing and they're

17:17

and they are great at doing it Minnesota

17:21

Has been so fun to watch this playoff

17:23

run one because anthie outwards is just ridiculous

17:25

and he's he's incredible to watch But

17:28

I I haven't seen anybody guard

17:30

Uh denver's three-man actions or the

17:32

split cut game or the ryok

17:35

into two-man stuff um

17:38

I haven't seen anybody guard it better than minnesota

17:40

has over the past two and a half years

17:42

or so. Um, It's

17:44

it's been incredible watching them in the series

17:47

I'm incredibly excited for game three on

17:50

friday night Um, which are

17:53

we gonna do a playback for? Yeah, we'll

17:55

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17:57

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Um, let's see. By

19:49

the way, one of the things I want to do is we're going to take a

19:51

look at the Lakers roster, and we're going to see if

19:53

you're trying to build a Minnesota-esque team, what

19:56

can you do? What players would stay, what players

19:58

would go, and all that. That's something we will...

20:00

that should get into, um, Mavadou also

20:02

said, hope we keep Vanderbilt defense wins

20:04

championships. Yes. Vando would

20:07

very much fit in a Minnesota style

20:09

defense. It ironic cause it came from

20:11

Minnesota, but, um, Vando

20:14

would fit in that type of

20:16

defense. The only question is, and again, we, we talked

20:18

the same thing last summer. Can Jared

20:20

Vanderbilt be any kind of a credible

20:22

threat, even, even specifically just

20:25

on the corner three, if he

20:27

could shoot 33% on corner threes, that's

20:31

all you need. And it, it

20:33

increases his value so much. And unfortunately we

20:35

barely saw him this season. It was basically

20:37

a lost season for Jared Vanderbilt. So

20:39

I, but I do think

20:42

that even though he will be trade eligible, I

20:44

think he's a guy the Lakers should hang on to. I

20:47

think they're going to prioritize keeping Vando

20:50

around unless they absolutely need to trade

20:52

them. Right. Um, I think

20:55

he's one to three to five

20:57

at worst, best one-on-one

20:59

isolation defenders amongst

21:01

the wing position. Uh, excuse

21:04

me. In the, in the entire league. I

21:06

think if you look at like on-ball

21:09

defensive general amongst the five to

21:11

10 best wing defenders in the

21:13

NBA, for sure. Um, I,

21:16

I, I, again, really,

21:18

really defensively for Vando. I

21:20

really wanted to get better as a screen navigator

21:22

because I kind of got

21:24

roasted on Twitter for, there was a take

21:27

that Vando's the top three perimeter, like our on-ball

21:29

defender in the world. I'm like, eh, I'm gonna

21:31

push back on that. I list off a few

21:33

guys just focusing on the wings that you get

21:36

to the guards. It's a few more, obviously, but

21:40

I wouldn't push back on that.

21:42

Vando was a legit screen navigator,

21:44

especially in on-ball situations because with

21:47

Vando, you kind of can't

21:49

play drop because he isn't a good screen. He's

21:51

a, let me refrain from using the word good.

21:54

He is a consistent screen navigator. There'll

21:56

be games where he, where he does navigate well. I

21:58

think game one's the game a lot. people

22:00

look at for and say, see, he is

22:02

a good screen advocate. I'm like, okay, cool.

22:04

That is a really good game from Vando,

22:06

but more times than not, you don't get

22:08

that type of performance out of them from

22:10

a screen navigation standpoint. And if that

22:13

is a more consistent thing, then

22:15

absolutely you can get top three

22:18

perimeter defender in the, in

22:20

the world. So, um, I want to keep Vando

22:22

around. I do like Vando and yeah, I think

22:24

he's going to be a big part of your,

22:26

your defense next season. Yeah,

22:29

I agree. I agree. I think he's

22:31

going to be an important piece for them. They just need

22:33

to stay healthy. At third, they're a very different team when

22:35

Jared Vanderbilt is available. Uh, Chad says

22:37

Trevor, I've listened to you recently.

22:39

Sounds like the Westbrook trade gave

22:41

you guys off season PTSD three

22:43

star trade nightmares. Yeah. Right. It's

22:46

one of the worst trades in sports history

22:49

in terms of the overall negative impact of the

22:51

trade. So yeah,

22:54

I mean that, that should definitely be the stuff on

22:56

nightmares. Right. If you're not going to have nightmares about

22:58

that, what are you going to have nightmares about? Uh,

23:01

as far as the three

23:03

star model, though, I

23:06

keep coming back to this Sean. I

23:10

know a lot of it depends on who is

23:12

this third star, this mystery third star. Is it

23:14

Trey young? Is it Donovan midget? And somebody we're

23:16

not talking about is a Lowry marketing, but

23:18

I keep coming back to this. The

23:21

NBA doesn't want this. The

23:24

NBA at a league

23:26

level is trying to

23:30

spread out the stars. They don't

23:32

want a bunch of stars in one

23:35

place. They try and do they put

23:37

in competitive disadvantages from stacking up three

23:39

max stars on one roster.

23:43

So I do wonder if

23:46

you stack those three stars together and

23:48

you're dealing with maybe a hard cap at

23:51

the second apron. Maybe it's a

23:53

hard cap at the first day, but depending

23:55

on what you do, how big of a

23:57

negative impact would that make on the Lakers and their ability

23:59

to. filled out a roster around those three

24:01

stars. I think we may, because those most

24:04

punitive measures haven't even kicked in yet, that's

24:06

coming this summer. I

24:08

think we may be underselling how

24:10

difficult the league is making it to

24:12

put three stars together and

24:15

that it might be futile to try to

24:17

go against what the league is trying to

24:20

do here. Yeah.

24:23

Um, that, that is a, that is

24:25

a really good point. And I

24:28

think that even if you look at teams that,

24:30

you know, do have three stars or have a

24:33

big three, if you will, a

24:35

lot of those teams have, you know,

24:37

kind of drafted their younger players and

24:40

have let them develop and let them grow. And I've

24:42

just used their other draft competition

24:44

to surround them with that. And maybe

24:46

you get that third star. Okay. See

24:49

two of their, two of their big

24:51

three, if you will, drafted SGA traded for

24:53

obviously in the now infamous

24:56

trade, which actually helped them get

24:58

Jayla Williams. So thanks Clippers. You

25:00

guys stink. Um, the

25:02

Minnesota Timberwolves drafted cat drafted, Anthony

25:04

Edwards traded that the buck load

25:06

of picks, obviously for Rudy go

25:08

bear, uh, Boston drafted Jayla Brown,

25:11

drafted Jason Tatum traded for everybody

25:13

else essentially. Um, and

25:15

I'm missing anybody else. Dallas drafted Luca trade

25:17

for Kyrie, but they don't really have a

25:19

three star model. Um,

25:21

Denver drafted their three

25:23

best players in Jamal,

25:26

Yocha and, uh, and,

25:28

and MPJ and traded for KCP Aaron

25:31

Gordon and helped fill out that course.

25:33

So, um, I think

25:36

in a cool way, I think if this is the direction

25:38

that NBA does only to, I think it's kind of fun

25:41

to see like from a,

25:43

from a content standpoint, like, Hey,

25:45

you want, you want these teams to

25:47

actually value the draft? That's the end.

25:49

They don't write, but like really value

25:51

the draft, almost at an NFL level

25:53

where it's all right, these picks are going to

25:55

value more because we have to build through the draft

25:57

a little bit more like you kind of. Have

26:00

to do an Nfl for example. That's.

26:02

Really exciting Burmese even. I have a kind of

26:04

party the table for trade. That is a good

26:06

point that server brings up an yeah I think.

26:08

It. Can be a to see how the the

26:10

the rest of the and be a adjust said

26:13

you know this off season. Of.

26:15

Am glad that you mention the Nfl because

26:17

I see some parallels. They're not only as

26:20

the Nfl. What? The and Be

26:22

A is jealous of another that I'm not talking

26:24

about, viewership numbers and all I can as we

26:26

know the Nfl is going to dominate and all

26:28

that but short on socket about in terms of

26:30

parity. The and Be A looks

26:32

the Nfl and the parody they have the by

26:35

and they have from fans across across the league.

26:37

And they want that. They. Want that feeling

26:39

where fans feel like a This year

26:42

we sucked but next year. We.

26:44

Could be the Lions now thirty

26:46

miles away in the Nfl. or

26:48

they're usually members. Yeah. Right?

26:50

But but also look at the Nfl.

26:53

Look at what happened now with Cj Stroud. And.

26:55

The Texans. The. Good Cj Stroud.

26:58

They get Cj Stroud on a rookie

27:00

contract, right? It's one of the Texas

27:02

do cool. We got the guy stuff

27:04

on digs. Let's go let's start spend

27:07

the money. right? Yup,

27:09

That's also part of now what allows you

27:11

to really fill out because we're seeing it

27:13

around the league. Not. Just

27:15

a two star model. But two

27:17

stars Plus that? That's. How you

27:19

get that it's would one of those to start just. Oh

27:22

and a rookie contract And that's why I'm glad you

27:24

brought up that your Denver drafted a lot of their guys.

27:26

Boston. Drafted their guys. The Minnesota drafted

27:28

the guys. They added a piece or

27:30

two. Vs. Reward or diary embark

27:33

and case you're right but you still you

27:35

got those guys said you were able to

27:37

lay the foundation while the stars that you

27:40

got our on rookie contracts and get easier

27:42

said than done. But for it and be

27:44

a that is very much jealous of the

27:46

Nfl model in terms of parody. I

27:49

think the Nfl model for roster building to

27:51

where it's found gold. If you could find

27:53

a way to get your quarterback on a

27:55

rookie contract and you can add the weapons

27:57

and problem. I. Think we're starting seasons.

27:59

Some similarities in the and Be I. I'm.

28:02

So glad you brought the rookie quarterback

28:04

peace because you accidental exact right now

28:06

what what their goal is? So. The.

28:09

By this way, Chicago Bears just or

28:11

the number one overall. Pick the Rg

28:13

Cowboy. I'm obviously. they're they're they're Hope

28:15

is killer. Blames can be around for.

28:17

The. Decade and a half or so. maybe

28:20

longer. right? with their goal? Is organization

28:22

Economic Dear to you is. We're.

28:24

Gonna try to win. In the in

28:26

this five your window. Like. We're going

28:28

to lot of really gave cannibals. get an

28:30

album Good yeah from a do they are

28:32

do their and nine or it ever. We

28:34

have some work to do sure it's neighboring

28:36

actually be great. This the of organ to

28:38

make strides this year to wear. Okay, we

28:41

haven't and another three years is while we're

28:43

on the Cowboys window. Okay cool. A rookie

28:45

contract window. cool. Now we're going to really

28:47

attack the chief did it. They wanted Super

28:49

Bowl as he will ever since the seat

28:51

did it. Ah now the wrestling is like

28:53

oh crap let's get our Qb aren't guy

28:55

in yonder with the contract. Then. I.

28:57

Think. Again, that Nasa by model the kind of

28:59

build with and like you said, I'm glad you brought that

29:01

up at how the N B A and A job than

29:04

the Nfl for nothing point. So. For

29:06

the Lakers though, they're nowhere close to be

29:08

able to draw workouts. But. That's

29:10

where where people get up, get frustrated,

29:12

or like, well, why does team acts

29:14

have like these three? These four guys

29:16

in the Lakers have nobody to spend

29:18

because the Lakers guys they brought in.

29:21

At a point where they were already making tons

29:23

of my Le Bron and a D they brought

29:25

in, they're already making tons of money they didn't

29:27

get the benefit of building with those guys on

29:29

rookie contracts out. You. Made up for

29:32

that some ways by having guys like Austin breathes

29:34

on to Cost Control contract for but they're right.

29:36

I think he still value on his current contract

29:38

but. It.

29:40

Just underscores how important it is that you hit on

29:42

your draft picks which are not trying to throw. Say

29:45

that J just. But. It's so

29:47

important to hit on your draft picks. If.

29:49

You are a team that's in. The. Lakers

29:52

situation. Because. You don't have.

29:55

The. Ability to load up your roster while

29:57

you're while at least one your main guys

29:59

are stolen. That cheaper contract a rookie deal.

30:01

So that's where things get tough. A they

30:03

are gonna get creative the Summer, The Figures

30:06

and Exile. I've. I do

30:08

have. I want to get

30:10

into. A lot of

30:12

people as he about the center position. And

30:15

so what to show? this? Because.

30:19

Everyone is asking about cerebral who is the true center

30:21

the Lakers and go get. I'm an

30:23

avid take. I don't think people are ready for

30:25

Obama to go. Okay, so this

30:27

is the free agent center list. Of

30:31

like. Jonas valid soon as

30:33

I don't know have enough for a baby

30:36

if they have like a taxpayer but levels

30:38

of the maybe get him for like Isaiah

30:40

Hartenstein Nope. Easily too expensive. Or

30:42

Nick Claxton. know it's gonna be too expensive.

30:45

Resort. Home. James Wiseman

30:48

sure. Daniel.

30:50

Tice. You know

30:52

those guys but your maybe you could get

30:54

some of those guys but Andre drummond. I.

30:57

The Lakers need to walk away. From.

31:00

This summer weather to be a traitor free

31:02

agency with the Trebek I firmly believe that

31:04

they need a true bag and it and

31:06

crucial would picking up as player option. Does.

31:08

Not change that. But. I

31:12

don't know what I'd look at this list of people say

31:14

I'll get. Get Nick Claxton.

31:17

He says I don't have the spending power

31:19

to do it. That's the

31:21

problem so that would you look at severe the

31:24

names of people are less inspired by getting say

31:26

a. Arrow A, Daniel Pies

31:28

or whoever. I. Don't even know if

31:30

they're gonna have the ability to get so be

31:32

like it like it's It may have to come

31:35

via trade to add that of the big about

31:37

it becomes what other pieces are you willing to

31:39

package unless you could find a way to get.

31:43

I mean, can you get Andre Drummond on a minimum

31:46

or something like that? That

31:48

may be are your options are but would give me

31:50

your thoughts on the center position to you said you've

31:52

got some people will like. oh

31:55

peter says nick richard i love like

31:57

richard that i've i've been peggy president

31:59

try to get them for like a year or two now, I

32:02

don't think it's gonna happen, but that'll be fun. All

32:05

right, so everybody's a fan of getting a

32:07

big and it's kind of ironic that we

32:10

just had a conversation surrounding this. If

32:12

you really, really want a big and

32:15

you really want to go depth

32:17

especially, right? Draft,

32:20

use the pick. I don't think people

32:23

are gonna like that option, but

32:26

like dog, Kaleel Ware at 17, really

32:30

freaking intrigues me, right? If you're a,

32:32

okay, think about this, where you're gonna

32:34

have your option, I almost guarantee you.

32:36

Now, maybe Kaleel Ware, I

32:39

heard something today that says,

32:41

well, that if he gets there, so take that

32:43

with a grain of salt, I suppose. Kaleel

32:45

Ware, seven foot one, I think big

32:47

from Indiana. Can stretch the floor, can

32:50

shoot it, have some post work.

32:52

In theory, could be a really fun fit next

32:54

to AD where you can kind of work his

32:56

way in. And what I mean

32:58

by that is not start him obviously, but

33:01

like give him minutes, year one,

33:04

go Yves Missy from Baylor, right?

33:06

If you want more of a

33:08

true rim protecting, lob threat big.

33:11

If you are a Zach Edie fan,

33:13

you are a Kyle Filippowski fan, I

33:16

personally don't like Filippowski or Edie fit,

33:18

really with the Lakers, but hey, you

33:21

know, whatever, two to two if you

33:23

will. Rashawn

33:25

Holmes is fun. You're gonna have

33:28

your pick between, even if you wanna like

33:30

trade back, Osodiyaro from Marquette, more of a

33:32

stretch five, six, nine ish, kind of in

33:34

the Al Horford ish, or that's like, I

33:37

just kind of disrespect what Al Horford, like

33:39

a Trace Jackson Davis type

33:41

of build. That's actually a really good pro

33:43

comp from last year's

33:45

draft that I did personally miss on in

33:47

Trace Jackson Davis. So we're

33:50

talking six to seven,

33:52

I'm probably missing a couple. The only two bigs you're

33:54

absolutely not gonna have a shot on is Alex

33:57

R and Diamond Clingan,

33:59

the. Yukon big yeah,

34:01

he'll be gone you're you're you

34:04

can really pick your poison more than

34:06

likely at 17 and It

34:10

goes back to the conversation. We just

34:12

had about the the draft right where you

34:14

can get a cost

34:16

controlled contract and You

34:20

would essentially I think probably be saying hey look

34:22

we really need you to play Your

34:24

one reason why I said that because you

34:26

bring up the the big market. I pull

34:28

it up one more time It's not very

34:30

inspiring whatsoever. So unless you

34:33

can guarantee me that There

34:36

is a legit option on the trade market

34:39

and you don't use 17 on A

34:42

big or you trade 17 in another deal.

34:44

Well Jackson Hayes Christian wood. Welcome back We're

34:46

running it back with our big spot or

34:49

we're getting a big that doesn't really add to

34:51

the room in my opinion So that's

34:54

what that that's what is in my process process

34:56

there Trevor again I know a lot of fan

34:58

base is not gonna like that take but that's

35:00

what I'm thinking The

35:03

problem isn't that the fan base isn't gonna like

35:05

that take the Lakers are gonna do it The

35:07

problem is LeBron is it gonna you

35:10

go to LeBron who's got a

35:12

player option and you say hey LeBron

35:14

remember that guy we got at 17

35:16

last year. Yeah, we kept the pick then we

35:18

think we're gonna keep the pic this year, too

35:22

You're still gonna sign that player option, right? Right

35:25

LeBron That's

35:27

yeah, I think LeBron's gonna want them

35:29

to trade this pic and I think they should shop the

35:32

pic Because even

35:34

if you do get a big that

35:36

there's no guarantee that rookie big is gonna be

35:38

ready to step into the role The Lakers need

35:40

them to I

35:42

do think there's some options there and I think

35:44

you're right. I think without that LeBron situation Hey,

35:48

we need LeBron if the Lakers just

35:50

needed a big and it's not and

35:52

LeBron is 30 instead of 40 Okay,

35:56

right. They keep the pic use it on a

35:58

big off you The

36:02

problem is LeBron's not gonna wait for

36:04

a rookie and I think he's expecting these picks to

36:06

be moved or to use it be used in trade

36:08

talks. So I'll

36:11

be surprised if the Lakers wind up making their pick. If

36:15

they do, though, which I thought they weren't going to keep

36:17

their pick last year and they obviously did. If

36:19

they do, I think you're right and that there's some

36:22

bigs that will be interesting in this year's draft to

36:24

go and take a chance on it. Anybody

36:27

on the trade front that doesn't treat you?

36:33

On the trade front? Yeah, like

36:36

a big that you could potentially

36:38

trade for. The problem is

36:41

they would all have to be kind of

36:43

like a package deal. You know what I mean? Like

36:46

you would have to be you're getting this

36:49

guy in a bigger trade for

36:51

somebody else because what pieces are you

36:53

going to trade unless the team suddenly wants Gabe Benson or something? Like

36:56

that, but like I think I think

36:58

he's probably gonna cost too much, but Wendell Carter would

37:00

be great. Orlando Magic probably not going to move on

37:02

from him, but he'd

37:04

be an interesting addition guys like that. But

37:07

it's going to be tough, I think, to get that

37:10

guy that you want, which is not

37:13

the way it's been in recent years, but

37:16

the big market is going to be difficult. There's guys

37:18

on the list that we're looking at right now that

37:20

if you said, hey, better a minimum, I'd say, okay,

37:22

sure. You take a chance

37:24

on that, but it's

37:27

hard to say you're getting the guy that

37:30

you need, the solid

37:32

night in, night out. You can play him

37:34

15, 20 minutes a night, no problem. Finding

37:36

that guy, it's going

37:39

to be difficult and getting that

37:41

player for a minimum or finding that

37:43

guy in a trade

37:45

that also doesn't cripple your ability to go make

37:47

another trade because we're probably talking about multiple trades

37:49

for the Lakers this summer. Sorry,

37:53

you proving my point there then? What,

37:55

that you need to drop the big? That

37:57

you should. Now, I should. Ammy's going to run for

37:59

it. It's

38:01

not a question of should you draft the bag or

38:03

not. It's a question of if you use the pick

38:05

period Yeah, bronze not gonna be thrilled with

38:08

that, right? Yeah. Yeah, cuz I

38:10

agree with you Yeah, if

38:12

you're gonna if you're gonna keep the big drop the bank.

38:14

I'm with you Yeah

38:19

Alright, let's see what else we've got here Oh,

38:23

I'm dread said LeBron is getting

38:25

all the heat from him being

38:27

fired, which is so stupid It

38:30

is like I already

38:32

went on a rant the other day about this on

38:34

YouTube Talking about

38:36

how you'd Kendrick Perkins You had Mike

38:38

Wilbond going off on how the players who are

38:41

to blame and none of it's on Darvin all

38:43

that stuff I said my piece where do you

38:45

fall Sean? I think it's

38:47

so freaking stupid, right? Honestly for both

38:49

situations I'm referring to Frank in Phoenix

38:51

and ham in LA first off Frank

38:53

isn't even fired yet So like can

38:55

we chill the hell out hot on

38:57

Phoenix? But with

39:00

with with Darvin and the whole Braun being

39:02

a coach killer thing Okay, is

39:04

it brought me a coach killer or is it

39:07

the coaches? He's had to work with

39:09

have been like not great So I'm

39:12

gonna bring up the two instances where LeBron was

39:14

or tries to be a coach killer. Absolutely killed

39:16

David black David

39:19

black is LeBron. He tried to

39:22

kill Eric Spolta coach kill Eric Spolta, right?

39:24

And Pat Riley said no, we are not

39:27

doing that. Eric Spolta is the guy and

39:29

kudos to Pat Riley. It worked out, right?

39:31

Right Outside

39:33

of that he was given Luke

39:38

one which I Must

39:41

I continue given Luke one so post

39:43

Miami on spo try to

39:45

coach kill him didn't work data black tried

39:48

to I don't know I didn't try to

39:50

did got Tyler. Okay cool is now Tyler

39:52

then it's Luke Walton Yeah, Luke Walton is

39:55

not a good at a coach then

39:57

it was Frank Bogle, which really isn't

40:00

That's the front office and

40:02

kind of really the Russell Westbrook situation where they're

40:04

like They didn't know what they were going

40:06

to do long term with Russ So assuming

40:09

that hey Russ is just give me back next year

40:11

kind of regardless and the rust and Frank Vogel thing

40:13

didn't work Cool Frank you're

40:15

gone and we're gonna hire

40:17

a coach that Honestly could just put up

40:19

with the Russell Westbrook nonsense essentially Darwin am

40:22

insert you go and we trade Russell Westbrook

40:24

at the trade line and we realize Oh

40:27

Darwin isn't really the guy that is

40:29

not Braun being a coach cool like

40:31

please I beg of you

40:34

watch More than

40:36

50% of Laker games over the past two seasons

40:38

and you will say huh wait 98%

40:41

of the fan base doesn't like this dude. I Don't

40:44

think they're tripping and I think you

40:46

would like talk. This isn't Braun the

40:49

I think it's interesting with Frank Vogel

40:51

that the past two spots where

40:55

They are very much like star

40:57

driven veteran oriented teams They

41:00

kind of lost the locker room now

41:02

Phoenix. It happened a lot quicker than

41:04

it did in LA obviously And

41:07

I think Phoenix they are kind of doing

41:09

them a little dairy and Phoenix organization Some

41:12

some of the players I think some of the way

41:14

that like they they treat Frank is at least

41:16

in the media Obviously don't know what happens beyond

41:18

beyond closed doors, but I'm just more so referencing

41:20

in the media Like

41:23

dog it's not bronze fault. He

41:25

gets handed Luke Walton in

41:27

Darvin ham for a total

41:30

of three of us what six years in LA

41:32

and it's not his fault that The

41:34

front office cheaped out on the guy. He

41:37

wanted his second year in LA and When

41:41

they do win a championship with the guy that ultimately

41:44

gets here, but then they fire

41:46

him at a press conference Which cost

41:48

them the ability to get anybody like

41:51

of note worth Anybody

41:53

noteworthy excuse me in the next hiring cycle

41:55

like a quince nyter for example, which I

41:57

would freaking love that quince nyter I bought

41:59

now And bro,

42:03

it's insane. It's insane, man. I

42:05

think the idea of LeBron getting

42:08

ham fired or yada, I

42:10

think it flew to Chris. It makes absolutely no

42:12

sense. I think

42:14

the problem is the people that are

42:16

trying to put the blame on LeBron are trying to

42:19

put all the blame on LeBron, not

42:21

some of the blame, all of them. They're trying to take all

42:24

of the blame of the season off of Darvin Ham and they're

42:26

trying to put it all on LeBron and you just can't do

42:28

that. It's not

42:30

accurate to say it's all

42:32

on any one party. It's not. And

42:35

to count what you're saying there, if

42:37

LeBron right now, or not right now, because

42:40

he's already gone, if LeBron James went on

42:42

Thursday to Rob Polinka and G.D. Butts had

42:44

said, I'm a fan of Darvin Ham.

42:47

I would like Darvin Ham to get kept around here.

42:51

I almost guarantee you Darvin Ham's still here.

42:54

Almost, not a thousand percent

42:57

confident, but if LeBron advocated

42:59

for- If LeBron said I will sign

43:01

the contract, if Darvin stays. Darvin

43:03

Ham is still here. So, like,

43:08

could LeBron have helped this situation? Sure,

43:12

technically, but it's not

43:14

all LeBron's fault. And

43:16

there's very little blame that I can even personally

43:18

give him here. So, it's whatever.

43:22

Thomas said, Rondo and LeBron

43:24

player coach. No. They're

43:28

not, the player coaches aren't a thing anymore.

43:32

I would love Rondo as an assistant

43:34

coach. Sure. Let's go. Why

43:37

not? I'd be good with that. This

43:40

one says, watching the wolves, what Ham

43:43

did with Max Christie was malpractice. Someone

43:45

with his play type and build should have

43:47

been in the rotation to get better yet

43:50

Cam played. And

43:52

Spencer Dinwiddie, who are journeymen, shaking my

43:54

head. Yep.

43:58

You look at that series and you see- all these guys that

44:00

can shoot from the outside, that can defend and you

44:03

take man. That's Max Christie.

44:05

Maybe it's Max Christie in three, four years. I

44:07

don't know. It's going to take a while for

44:09

him to like really become the player that he's

44:11

eventually going to be, but his skillset

44:15

sure does fit that type of model. And

44:19

now, I mean, like Bobby Marks, I believe

44:21

I could be misquoting here. So don't, don't

44:24

assume that he said this, but I'm

44:26

pretty sure it was Bobby who

44:28

mentioned that Max Christie could wind

44:30

up being a cap casualty because

44:32

the second tier record, not, not like

44:35

that's what's happening. Not that's news, not that's

44:37

a rumor, not whatever. He was just going

44:39

through the math and

44:42

realizing that, Hey, it gets tough. If

44:45

you're trying to stay below that second tier

44:47

apron. So yeah, it's frustrating that

44:49

we didn't see Max getting more

44:51

of an opportunity. I hope the Lakers keep

44:53

him. I hope he sticks around. He's a

44:55

restricted free agent. They should be able

44:57

to keep him, but these,

45:00

these, these, that second tier apron, it's

45:04

tough, man. It is

45:07

really tough. It's

45:09

going to be, it's going to be difficult for the Lakers.

45:12

I mean, they execute a trade where they take back more

45:14

salary than they send out. Suddenly you've got a second tier.

45:17

You've got a hard cap at that second tier apron. And then

45:19

maybe next thing you know, you can't pay Max Christie, which wants

45:21

you. So it's

45:24

unfortunate. I wanted to see Max get

45:26

more of an opportunity to this season

45:28

than what he did. And I just

45:30

hope if there's any silver lining, it's that the Lakers

45:33

can commit more of a long-term deal to

45:35

him this year and maybe get

45:37

them at a cheaper rate. But

45:41

I don't know. I don't know. I

45:43

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45:46

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46:50

I think the frustrating thing with

46:53

Max this season is that,

46:56

and I've talked about this a ton, when

46:58

Max Christie was actually using a roll that

47:01

made sense on both

47:03

ends of the floor with any semblance

47:05

of consistency with his playing time, he

47:08

looked like a rotation player. When

47:10

you put him in a spot-up roll,

47:14

he's a 41.5% spot-up 3.2, if I recall correctly. He

47:20

has the ability to attack closeouts,

47:22

hit the pull-up mid-range. There's actually

47:25

a really cool play. This

47:28

is going back, I found this

47:30

earlier, this is against the Raptors

47:32

in Toronto late season. The

47:34

Lakers go double drag

47:37

with D-Lo, and

47:39

the ball ultimately finds Spencer dead with

47:41

his hands on the left wing. He

47:44

swings it right away, one more pass

47:46

to Max. Max attacks a wild closeout,

47:48

rips baseline. With his left hand, it

47:51

makes, like, completely collapses the

47:53

defense. Makes a great kick-out pass, finds D-Lo,

47:55

hits the open 3. Like,

47:57

bro, that's all you need Max to do. Make Max.

48:00

Bought a player make max the gather country

48:02

softball. He had some really really good moments.

48:04

We did guard the point of attack against

48:07

good players legitimately. And

48:09

again, he was like rotation player, but

48:11

just the lack of actual minutes, the

48:13

lack of an actual opportunity consistency with.

48:16

Ah with with his role is the

48:18

the real frustration fabric of the max

48:20

just flat zoc. I would come on

48:22

this show and say. I was

48:24

wrong about Max crazy as a player he bled

48:26

out thinks he does not put up think his

48:28

role. Flat. Out done it is.

48:31

Opportunity. Miles don't. Agree.

48:34

With everything he said there ah

48:36

of dread. Stephen. A Will Baud

48:38

Byron Scott Kendrick Perkins I'll kill him The broad

48:40

we are to address that. but yeah, Im. There's

48:43

There's a lot of that going around. as

48:46

long as I've gone wrong of of people that are. Using

48:50

that as a way to deflect blame off of

48:52

carbon? Him and you gotta have something to put

48:54

that blame. And so

48:56

they're putting it on to Le Bron and and

48:58

eighty in some ways. Yeah.

49:01

Odd that Jared set of an experience

49:03

coaches the Lakers priority with the team.

49:05

Go for Jj or Rondo as an

49:07

assistant. My. Thought is if

49:10

you're Jj Redick. You're

49:13

making. I would assume he's making more money

49:15

now doing what he's doing than he would

49:18

make as an assistant. Now. Maybe

49:20

his longtime goal? Is. To.

49:23

Is. To be and I'd be a head coach. And

49:25

if that's the case, the assistant spot, even if it is

49:27

a step back, salary wise would be seen as a stepping

49:29

stone up there, and I can see it going that way.

49:32

But. I. Don't know that

49:34

he be willing if he is. No. Yeah

49:37

again brought Rondo? Jj?

49:39

sure. I. Have no problems with

49:41

that. I think that's a good idea. I think it's

49:43

a good idea to have. Somebody.

49:45

Like that that you're building up because

49:47

we know. Show. That in the

49:49

at be a the lifespan of a coat is

49:52

not mortgage. It's only so long before Reagan's how

49:54

good they are. Before. The locker

49:56

room starts to turn them to and about.

49:58

There are certain coaches that. The exceptions.

50:00

But they're not the rule. When you

50:02

think about pop, you think about spoke

50:05

Phil Jackson right. These are guys who

50:07

are the exceptions. Most coaches at some

50:09

point. They're. Coaching lifespan

50:11

with that particular team runs out

50:13

and so if you bring in.

50:16

Jj. Rhonda, Whoever did you

50:18

say? We're gonna show you were

50:20

going to let you cut your teeth here. At

50:24

Sunday. You're. Gonna move over

50:26

to the picture. I'm

50:28

no problem with that. I think that's a

50:30

fantastic idea. I will

50:33

say if you do pick jj.

50:35

Say. To be the head coach the team.

50:38

A. Prerequisite should be you've got

50:40

and be a experience head coaches

50:42

I was areas of next to

50:44

Jj redick without a meme audibly

50:47

like if if we get. To.

50:51

Vote. Obama three who ever

50:53

are not fair may make I

50:55

don't care who ah announcing the

50:57

the are that the hiring for

50:59

Aura for Jj Redick I need

51:01

attached to that same sweet. There.

51:03

Have also decided to make carry

51:06

start the lead assistant on the

51:08

bench alongside our or something along

51:10

those lines Share my opinion. See.

51:13

Your tie the brown says what are we here

51:15

When do we hear about bank undies? Jackson starts.

51:18

I. Get those names haven't really come out yet connection

51:20

the Lakers but again I say yet they're not even

51:22

at the process where the. It's not like they've got

51:24

their interviews all schedule the their set. Never.

51:27

Done that yet? I'm

51:29

I also think so. The remember is. That

51:32

they just interviewed a bunch coaches two years

51:34

ago. And. Has it? Has

51:36

it been that long? Says they interviewed some

51:38

of these guys already. So. It's.

51:41

It's guys like Jj. If

51:43

Rondo somehow gets into the begs right if we

51:45

start here and his them. The

51:48

assistant coaches. Those are

51:50

the guys who. The

51:52

interview process is gonna matter more for

51:54

the guys who have had dodging experience.

51:57

It's. Not going to matter as much. Not nearly

51:59

as especially. Does he have somebody

52:01

hurdles declared to prove like a i can't

52:03

be. A that be a head

52:05

coach. I don't need coaching experience all that

52:07

sorta stuff but. The

52:09

interview like for my poodles are.

52:12

Arab people know what he is as

52:14

a coach. Your. He

52:16

he's not the in my you in all manner

52:19

of his much. My. Bird houses

52:21

basically mortars coming in selling you

52:23

on his idea for the team

52:25

where for example. A. David

52:28

our men and to a much

52:30

larger degree to your point: a

52:32

Jj Redick or a Rondo. Would.

52:34

Be selling you on their ability

52:36

to actually be in a upon

52:39

show. And yeah, Coach exactly. Exactly.

52:41

I will do a few more

52:43

money said. Why Is Chris Quinn

52:45

not in consideration here? He. Spoke

52:48

right hand man. Been learning from the best coach

52:50

in the league. As I said. Now.

52:53

From the from the stuff I've I've found

52:55

and kind of like dug into doing some

52:57

research on. It does seem like

52:59

he is more charge like the player development

53:01

stopper like how they've had operated that program.

53:04

I could be wrong idea do more research on

53:06

some these guys, but if that is the case,

53:09

That. Could make some sense in

53:11

terms of while he said as

53:13

we respect your. Your. Your

53:16

your journey in a house party Been so

53:18

the heat, culture and stuff like that but

53:20

we are going to stray away from that.

53:22

they're not and player development most certainly not.

53:24

That's not where they're at right now. I

53:26

think that alexander mean I'm right that make

53:28

that I kind of leave so that sounds

53:31

right. That's. Which makes us. Are.

53:33

At the same thoughts on a tour a Mussina,

53:35

five years of a system for Popovich we're back

53:38

to Italy. Want to titles as head coach? A

53:40

prisoner of Azkaban. Does he want to leave. Italy

53:43

uttered Avi That's always a factor to

53:45

does that coach wants to be. And.

53:48

And be a head coach? Is that something that they

53:50

want to do? Sometimes. The Answers:

53:52

not as people much Phil Jackson. Phil. Jackson

53:54

doesn't want to be in and be a head coach right now. That's

53:57

that's not a thing so that that would

53:59

be my. Because I don't know specifically

54:01

why it's or a mussina his neighbors are

54:03

popping up. but I do wonder he's having

54:06

success over in Europe. Does he want to

54:08

leave at this point? Yeah. And.

54:10

A turning point. The. Point.

54:13

Ah, Miguel City the Body Heal does

54:16

out of our price range at a

54:18

really want but he's hopeful both may

54:20

free, but he just struggled so much.

54:23

We. Could never. That's the.

54:25

that's not an ideal situation for him. I.

54:28

Could fly out of the question anymore. He

54:30

adds up on game six of us I came

54:32

six. Against. Against.

54:36

New York what game was our? He was really fun

54:38

in that series of the was games that fits with

54:41

handed over to get right the Cubs Game six. But.

54:44

Yeah, like I'm I'm good. A

54:47

joke of under says he'll for camus

54:49

I ever swapping out body heal, venue

54:51

cameras we are living life right now

54:53

account of his buddy he'll be anti

54:56

can reddish like a Bunny Hills basically

54:58

invented clam right? Yeah of. Are.

55:01

So ably he will be more sort

55:03

ram replacement right in theory. I

55:07

suppose. Yeah. I

55:09

mean smaller. but. Yeah. Sharper.

55:11

nobody's what. Sucks for. Something.

55:15

Away thought he was bigger like whenever

55:17

like late watching him went. In. His

55:19

younger days on like oh wait, he's on six or.

55:21

Allowed wouldn't. I wouldn't hated of

55:24

the Lakers kept torrent of they found a way to

55:26

her and to hang onto my thought he was fine

55:28

when he came off the bench. Yeah

55:30

from foreign. Threats. A fine player

55:32

I remember really be excited about the getting story and

55:34

Prince the prom was Darwin hand was flying. I'm thirty

55:36

eight, thirty five minutes a night. At one point the

55:38

season. Yeah. Foods and starter that

55:40

can start again over the as a

55:43

Russell at and is things like are

55:45

over really really weird Pilots are in

55:47

the whole. Bambee against

55:49

them. but we'd. Turn. Into one

55:51

player. Or. It

55:53

let's go is here. One thing I'd like to

55:56

see Lakers they should do more of next year

55:58

is more in person watch parties. We didn't

56:00

do what does your We did what last year

56:02

for the playoffs. Obviously files didn't last long enough

56:04

this year. But

56:06

yes that would be fun to do

56:08

more of those are it can be

56:11

a challenge to organize those but. With.

56:13

A They sure are fun so I would doubling

56:15

like to do more of those are that he

56:18

said. Feels like we should build upon our depth.

56:20

And know third star. I

56:23

think I'm leaning that way to, but all the

56:25

depends on. Who. Is the

56:27

dup. Who. Is the third star

56:29

option? What Are they caused? All of

56:31

that? There's a lot more to those.

56:33

the just. All. In this

56:35

way, all that way, it depends on. What

56:37

are the costs associated with each one of

56:39

those directions? Absolutely. That's a great

56:42

way to put it. And. Yes, rerun more

56:44

free game watch by I doubt they have been

56:46

a one yet, so yes we absolutely need to

56:48

do when I'm going to the crap. I.

56:51

Am getting bigger and or on Trevor said to make

56:53

it happen next season. Ah,

56:55

Ryan says, why Atkinson, what has he

56:57

done or can he do to help.

57:01

Again, or more so by again I have

57:03

you want experience had codes and by again on

57:06

the fact that he taking something of a breeze

57:08

of the with i'm from from going state If

57:10

you want more about like his time in brooklyn

57:12

i guy you do more of a like the

57:14

Kyrie watching get my my back east so i

57:17

can accept was doing in brooklyn's have a better

57:19

idea on on but. I. Mean, I

57:21

brought up Achatz in primarily earlier on in

57:23

the show because. There. Was there peace

57:25

in the article? Or. The I Times

57:27

article to be talked about where. They

57:30

were like hey look L a. Is.

57:32

Going to have a premium. On.

57:34

A better and head coaches are are

57:37

people with head coach experience. I'm like

57:39

okay that only like. Your. List

57:41

is kind of small there. And.

57:43

A. I'm looking at them look

57:45

at Bhutto's Us can a banking on the

57:47

upside of hey look at isn't has coats

57:50

recently any happened, a coach and a one

57:52

the best systems. the mask of ongoing state

57:54

so more so kind of banking on that

57:56

but the Brooklyn A that the refresh my

57:58

memory on that. Yeah. All

58:01

right. Oh, shots get a cold out

58:03

here. Bucks says Saudis to stop a

58:06

dismissive of players and coaches without explanation.

58:10

Who. Is a dismissive of her as a platform and it's

58:12

to be responsible with it. I

58:15

have the occasional ah. Back

58:18

and forth spat on on twitter.

58:20

I feel like I'm relatively responsible

58:22

with my platform. Which. I

58:25

am always very appreciative of up

58:27

the dismissive of of coaches and

58:29

players though with we is specially

58:31

without explanation. That.

58:34

Part. Kind of baffles me. I'm I'm

58:36

I would love to like a more. In

58:39

depth. Ah, Reason.

58:41

Behind that comment I'm I'm curious is more so who

58:44

are we talking about and in particular here from run

58:46

ads on going to say there. Are

58:48

at. We've got this Would said. What's your

58:51

take on Brandon Ingram? If. Available

58:53

would you trade for? I'd Here's the problem

58:55

with Brandon Ingram and has nothing to do

58:57

with him. As a player on the court,

58:59

I'm A I'm. A yeah that's what

59:01

is now. I. Think bread it

59:03

a grub a make it makes sense for

59:05

the pelicans to look to potentially move him

59:08

the season or this summer. I

59:10

don't know they will or not, but it makes sense for the

59:12

do At least poke around and see what their. Eyes.

59:15

He has a pretty extensive

59:17

injury history. He rarely plays

59:19

at. What is the point? Like fifty

59:21

sixty games? The sees that will have the the numbers

59:23

right in front of you, but he misses large substances.

59:25

That's a concern and of itself. But.

59:28

Beyond that, The

59:30

pelicans have. Not

59:32

just do they have no incentive to help

59:35

the Lakers, they have incentive to hurt the

59:37

Lakers. Because. I believe the

59:39

pelicans like we've been talking about the twenty

59:41

twenty four pack. Number. Seventeen as the

59:43

Lakers have it. They

59:46

might not. But. I believe the

59:48

pelicans are going to wait until twenty twenty five. I.

59:51

Think the pelicans will be do with the Lakers a big favor.

59:53

If they took the seventy pick this year. That.

59:55

Would be beneficial because I think the twenty twenty

59:57

five pick is more valuable. assuming.

1:00:01

The Pelicans do what they should, and I like

1:00:04

The Lakers. keep twenty twenty four and they take

1:00:06

twenty twenty five. The. Pelicans was partially

1:00:08

have zero a set of. To.

1:00:10

Do anything that could help the

1:00:12

Lakers. So. The only reason why

1:00:14

the Pelicans would said branded a grub to

1:00:16

the Lakers is if they knew the Lakers

1:00:18

were giving up so much in a deal

1:00:20

that they were going to be worse. They're

1:00:24

just they're not natural trade partners

1:00:26

because the pelicans have a have

1:00:28

an investment. In. The Lakers

1:00:30

downfall. That's really what it is when we talk

1:00:32

about that one. Pick that Stallone. Yeah.

1:00:37

Brain. Room I do they is going to

1:00:39

get traded of the summer. I think that's something

1:00:41

that's going to happen if I'm curious to see

1:00:43

where it is. I think be I just can't

1:00:45

stay healthy as a you did have a bad

1:00:48

policies and run but I think and rights by

1:00:50

I still have some stock and Brandon Ingram as

1:00:52

a player. Yeah.

1:00:55

I like the I but again he's

1:00:57

he's injured a lot. Of

1:00:59

yes And so that's. A lot from.

1:01:03

As a proper Lakers team that already is dealing

1:01:05

with, you know those sorts of things. Second,

1:01:07

Most injured team. On. The season

1:01:10

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