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instructions and I thought, yeah, that sounds like something
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useful. And I can think of stuff that
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I might need when the end does
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come like Wikipedia and
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all of those websites
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about killing rabbits and how
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to skin them and stuff like that, but
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I haven't quite let myself go that far
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yet, but it's coming. Yeah.
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This is one of those things where it's like on
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your to-do list. This has been
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on my to-do list for ages, but I haven't got around to
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it yet. But the internet and
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the web is much
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less permanent than you think it is. Sometimes
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shit just disappears. Yeah.
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And we're lucky that we've got services like Internet
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Archive that are trying to preserve
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the history. One of my concerns
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with politics being the way it is, is like
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all of the revisionist stuff that is happening
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now is if you point
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to a reference material on a website in
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a paper or in a blog post or in a
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tweet or something, and somebody comes along
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and changes what it says, what do
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you do? One, you've got to be incredibly
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diligent and looking for things that change
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and making sure that you're not caught out. And
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two, you risk being made a fool
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of in public, like something we all
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know about. And it just, it
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would be useful to have a copy.
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I can imagine that a lot of journalists
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would want to make sure that they've got an
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automated and up-to-date replica
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of any reference material they need. So I think there
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is a real genuine need beyond just
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people being paranoid. And
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I hadn't really thought of that until you said it, Joe.
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So yeah, I think you're right. And it's not
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something that we should just totally rely on the Internet
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Archive for because they do great work,
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but you don't want a single point of
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failure, do you? And there are other
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archive sites out there, but something that is self-hosted
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means that you can have a copy
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of all the stuff that is important to you.
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This conversation has just reminded me of something
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I discovered a couple of weeks ago, which is the
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I.A. published by the Internet Archive.
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You can download it as a binary, it's an open source project, and
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it's basically a command line interface
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to their API. So you can use
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it to query their metadata, you can use
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it to upload as well, but you can also use it to download
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files and automate the things
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that you need to keep on top of on the Internet
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Archive. There's also a UK
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web archive run by the British Library,
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which I didn't know about until I think Popi
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brought it up maybe a couple of weeks ago, where
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you can go and tell them about
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a UK-based website, and they will
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add it to their archive, and then it is actually
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physically available in the British Library,
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which is quite cool. Alright,
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Faehan, I, Voyager. This
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is a web-based planetarium.
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A planetarium doesn't really sort
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of give the right feeling for what this
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is. So a lot of
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software like Stellarium and the stuff, you can
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see a planet, you can go to a moon or
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whatever like that. This is a bit different in fact that
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it's more like the orbits of stuff.
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Now, if you want to try it
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right now, there's a section at the
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bottom center of the page where it starts up
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with the sun and where things are, but there's a button
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that you can click on that says Asteroids. And
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this is the coolest thing that I found about
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this, is it can show you there's apparently
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a bunch of different asteroids I didn't know about.
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I knew we had an asteroid belt, but I didn't realize that
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there was like near-Earth, Mars
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crossers, main belts, inner,
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middle, outer, Hilda's, whatever
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the hell they are. Jupiter Trojans,
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which are apparently wooden horse-shaped
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asteroids, I don't know. But the thing
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is that you can scroll around it, zoom
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in and out, and you can see the fact that
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the sort of cloud shape of the
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asteroid belt is like the pink ones, which
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are the near-Earth ones, I think.
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No, they're Jupiter Trojans. They're out and
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they're kind of in two sort of chunks,
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and they're quite flat and they go quite high
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up from the elliptical plane and stuff. It's
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just really cool. that I hate
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about this entire thing is the fact that the mouse scroll
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wheel, which does the zooming, is the wrong fucking
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way around. It is driving
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me mad, but it's a fantastic
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thing. You can see all the orbits and I did
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see somebody say, try not to switch
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on all 48,000 or whatever
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it is orbit levels and watch your machine
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catch fire. Quite amazing that
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this is running inside a browser. Now,
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if you were totally lost at what Faehling was saying there,
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I can sum it up in seven words for you. Google
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Earth, but for the solar system. No.
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Yes, that's what it is. You can have
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a 3D version of the solar system and you
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can move around and zoom and stuff.
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As you say, the scroll wheel is natural scrolling
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or evil scrolling as I like to call it. Is that what
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it's called? Okay, wrong scrolling
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is what I would have gone for, but yeah. Yeah, not
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when it's zooming in and out, but when it's scrolling up and
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down a page and they call it natural
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scrolling. No, it's unnatural freak show, yeah.
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You know what it reminds me of is Celestia.
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Do you remember Celestia? It was an application
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that's probably 20 years old and it was like
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on Linux, it was like it did exactly the
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same thing in an app and the
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solar system, the universe looked amazing.
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And just while you were talking, the
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project had been abandoned for
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like 10 years and I've just Googled
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it while you were talking and the project
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has come back to life. So I'm going to have to
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try it and I'll report back on
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another discovery. Has anyone got poor
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old Pluto? Well, I
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was going to say, so people
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who think that Pluto should be a planet, Ceres,
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which is a large asteroid or
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I don't know what they call it, a minor planet
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or something or a planetoid, has a better
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orbit than Pluto does because it's more circular
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and it's more aligned with the plane. So Pluto
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is just full of shite is what it is and
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it can go and fuck right off. Charlotte's
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another planet. It is. And I only
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discovered something recently was that I could never remember
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the order plans to remember everything up to Mars.
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But then after that, I got a bit dodgy. But if you're
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remember that the last three planets spelled
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the word Sun Saturn Uranus
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Neptune so Jupiter's obviously
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just before them so there you go I think they say Uranus
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these days to avoid well
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they're missing out because
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they were gonna have a lot more people
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interested in astronomy but they ruined it all failing
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my very eager mother just served
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us nine pizzas that's how you
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remember it oh dear god well
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she didn't serve you pizzas there was nothing arrived
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that's what happened there yeah I've
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never heard that one before that's quite good damn
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it what's the F4 okay
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you started with failing Oh took a while granny Graham
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you are a monster who likes to have
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multi column view
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in master on what is wrong with you is
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this not common I mean I wasn't
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big putting things on Twitter but I
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used it a lot for consuming things
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and I had to use tweet deck tweet
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deck let you follow hashtags
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of things and let you follow people's
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posts and their responses without following them
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and let you put in searches
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and keep a search in a column basically
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you could open up tweet deck in a web
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view it used to be an app and get the
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whole status of everything I've got
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an ultra wide monitor so that helps I
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just relied on it first seeing what was
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going on with the things I was interested in and I think
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I've mentioned it in discoveries I've been
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trying to find an equivalent
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for mastodon and foster don and
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I think the last app I cried was called the deck
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which is really good I hadn't
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appreciated that the web
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app actually has this feature built
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in in mastodon why
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would you want to see five fucking columns
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of posts at the end the same time.
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Because each column is a category of things
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that I'm interested in. So there's one column for
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synths or indie games or a hashtag
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or a music artist. I
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don't want it all mashed up into a single timeline.
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So I have my post
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on the left, home notifications
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and then whatever I happen to be looking at. So
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yours has got more than that then. I
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did post actually on Fostodon
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with a screenshot of mine. Yeah, I've linked
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to that. I usually have a lot more than that. I
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usually have 15 or 16 and scroll across.
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What? Wow. Okay.
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I don't keep on top of everything in the
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timeline. Oh yeah, I mean, I'm terrible
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to be honest. Sometimes it's a
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column that nothing else very much happens in. It
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might be somebody, an artist or something.
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But when they post something or something,
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a conversation related to what they post comes
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up. I don't miss it because it'll bubble up
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to the top of that column. I don't know. Maybe
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it's just me. It's just me. So
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you can do that. And it's a really great interface
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apart from adding the columns, but you just go to
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the advanced view from the settings page. You
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go to settings, preferences, appearance,
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and then enable advanced web interface.
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And then when you've done that, you can basically add
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as many columns as you want. And whenever you log into
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Mastodon or Fostodon, whatever, you
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get the same columns that you've set
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up. Okay, so I
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have that enabled. Why don't I see more than likely
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you do? So if you've got the getting started
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thing on the column.
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On the right hand side. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
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See, this is the thing. I don't notice things on this interface very
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well. If you go to hashtags
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in that, for example, the second column, and
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then choose one, that will appear as
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a column. And then there's a little settings
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thing at the top right of that column, click on pin.
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Oh my God. Wow. And that
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becomes a permanent column. And then you'll always
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get the updates for that thing, the hashtag
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that you've just added. And you can do that for searches
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and people. Yeah, okay. And then
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whenever you log in again, it'll just... the same
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setup you don't lose it. Wow. Did
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it work? Yes. And I've
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had that enabled for possibly months
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and not noticed or not realized that it could
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do all that. Yeah and it seems to be quite an old feature
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when I looked at it. It's been there for a few years
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so I didn't know that it did that either. Wow. Okay.
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Will, Curl supports MQTT.
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Who knew? This is just a little one but
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yeah, you can subscribe to
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an MQTT topic using Curl
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and you can post to an MQTT topic
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using Curl. Amazing. This
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is just a really handy yet
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another tool in the Swiss Army
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Knife that is Curl. Getting web
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stuff. Yes, fine. But now you can use it with
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MQTT as well. Just really
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handy for doing those very simple listen
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to a topic, see everything that's coming
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out of it. Really nice way
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of doing it. I was using the Mosquito
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sub command which comes with Mosquito
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and so it's probably already installed in your machine.
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But the Curl one, just kind of nice,
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kind of easy, really useful tool. Roger's
13:04
come around to snip your internet cable to
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show you. Yeah, sorry Roger. I do feel
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a bit guilty
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about that Roger, sorry. But it's just it's quite
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handy. Well, I hate
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to be negative, especially about Firefox.
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I don't believe you. Well, I
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use Chrome and Android. And then the
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other morning I woke up and all my
13:28
tabs just disappeared. They're just
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fucking gone. Like a fart
13:32
in the wind. That must be your phone because I've had
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so many tabs for so long and I don't
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have any issue. No, this was Chrome and
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Android. Oh, Chrome, right. Okay, sorry.
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Yes. And so that made me think, right, it's about bloody
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time I tried Firefox again. And
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so I did. And I tried
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it and I hadn't set it as default but I was trying
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to use it. I was making an effort to use it. And
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then I'm doing something
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cooking or whatever and my phone makes
13:58
the noise. And it was a
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saying, hey, set me as your default browser.
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And
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you get
14:05
zero chances to spam my notifications.
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And so it was fucking uninstalled.
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And I know people are gonna say, oh,
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you can control your notifications. No,
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sometimes I want to have notifications from
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my browser when I've downloaded
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an image or whatever. I wanna know it's up
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there. My notifications on Android
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are sacred. I keep them empty
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at all times. And I
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sometimes leave stuff in there to just annoy
14:30
me into dealing with something. And
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I don't understand these. Some people post
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screenshots and they've got a thousand fucking
14:37
notifications that they aren't clear. That,
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I don't understand that mindset. And so
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presumably it was people with that mindset that decided
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it was a good idea to have Firefox
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spam your notifications. And I complained
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about it on Mastodon and people
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said, oh, well, people need to know
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to set it as default, otherwise they're not gonna use it
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and whatnot. But no
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fucking wonder no one uses it when
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they pull shit like this, quite frankly. Fail
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him, retort. Yeah,
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I have a bit of an issue with their
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notifications too. And the fact that I don't know where
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some of the notifications come from because
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I use Mastodon, Discord. What's
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the other one that we use? Matrix? Yeah.
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Yeah, Matrix. And oftentimes, I've
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used the same username in all of them. So it
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says, such as such account has a notification.
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I'm like, cool, where? Where's this
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notification? And I have to dig for it and I
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can't find it. What, on the desktop
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or on Android? Well, Firefox pops it
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on the desktop, which I then get. I mean,
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I don't get notifications on my mobile one
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at all. I don't know whether I've turned it off
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or what I've done, but I keep that very limited.
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Like I've got loads of tabs open and it's
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fine, but I just find Firefox notifications
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on the desktop. They're really annoying because
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they could just add the site name. That'd
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be the simplest thing they could do. At least you
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would know or stand some chance of knowing
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where it came from. But what's really annoying
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is that. I was getting on quite well with it and
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I was thinking about seriously
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making the change, but then the
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reason that I uninstalled it last time was the same
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thing. They spanned my notifications and
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I just will not have that. I don't get
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that at all.
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Weird.
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I'm with you, Joe. My notifications
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are not a mechanism for you to push
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your adverts to me and as soon
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as you do do that, then the app
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is gone or the notifications are off. So
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I have absolute sympathy with
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you here, Joe. I would have done the same thing.
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Same thing. Password thing. Working
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with clients, oftentimes you have to
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at some point transfer a password
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to get somewhere, or a key
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or whatever, but usually there's going to be a
16:43
password involved. You may have
16:45
a third party and control the actual server
16:47
so you don't have keys there anyway. A
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few clients have used some internet-based
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ones. You always think, oh,
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geez, which is even better? Is it better to send it to me
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via SMS or some website? I'm not in control
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of. I don't know. And then you told me
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you need Amalith's password thingy. And
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I went, what? And yeah.
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So Amalith has a very
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cool idea of essentially this. It's
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your own self-hosted password
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generation transfer one-time
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password thingy. And yeah, that's
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exactly what it is. Nice and simple and
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very, very good. And I will be very much
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installing this. I've been away for work so I didn't
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get a chance to install it yet. Yeah,
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it's very straightforward to set up and
17:31
very good. It is a name for it though,
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he said to me. He does. I'd
17:36
say Shibboleth, but that's actually
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a product. I
17:40
did come up with a couple and googled them and
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know that's something else and that's
17:44
something else. So yeah, it's very hard to name
17:47
things. This is Amalith from Linux downtime,
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by the way. And it
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seems like a very simple
17:54
way to solve it that
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doesn't involve having to make a GPT
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file. Yeah, you know
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hint at what the password is or send the
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password a different way or whatever That's
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fine If you're dealing with people even know that
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is but like they could be just network
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admins are working a university or
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something They're like what I feel like
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oh god. I'll post it to you
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on a in a letter yeah,
18:18
I tried to send someone a GPG file the other
18:20
day and I know that
18:22
they sort of somewhat into Linux, but they
18:24
mostly use Windows And it says
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to me can I just up this with 7-zip or
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what I'm like no, you know you're gonna
18:31
need Linux Well, there's probably a way in Windows. I'm sure
18:33
but Just you know I told
18:35
him look GPG the file and then this
18:38
is a password
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But no
18:40
normal people don't want to deal with that bullshit, so
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Something like password thing
18:46
is the solution
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Graham it's audio time again Cardinal a
19:54
fork of VCV rack. Yeah, so
19:56
hopefully I won't go on too long about
19:58
this But I've talked about CVRAC
20:00
before it's one of the best open source
20:03
audio synth projects. It's modular
20:05
synths but in a
20:08
visual way. Yes, that's
20:10
right. So EuroRAC is a physical
20:13
format for small tiny little synthesizers
20:15
and audio processing things and controllers.
20:18
Yes, you make a sense out of components,
20:20
aren't you? You have different like LFOs
20:23
going into filters, going into all
20:26
different ways of connecting stuff
20:28
and we've talked about Reason before which is
20:30
the connecting rack mount gear virtually
20:34
and this is sort of the modular synths
20:36
equivalent of it but open source. But
20:38
there's been some politics there
20:40
is my understanding. That's exactly right,
20:42
yes. Right, and that's why there's a fork of it. Well,
20:45
VCVRAC became very successful,
20:48
became hugely popular but the project,
20:51
it was open source, it is open source, there's
20:53
a single custodian to this and the
20:56
project has tried to become more
20:59
commercial by offering modules
21:01
on a subscription or modules
21:05
that are maybe not open source and
21:08
that was not in the spirit
21:10
necessarily of how people wanted to use something
21:13
like this where a lot of those modules
21:15
are based on real modules from the real world and
21:18
sometimes even use the real world firmware
21:20
in the virtual equivalent because
21:22
a lot of them are open source as well. What?
21:26
Yes, some amazing examples
21:29
of your rack modules using open source
21:31
firmware. That's crazy and they've
21:34
been virtually recreated in VCVRAC.
21:36
I spent a couple of hours in VCVRAC once and
21:39
I managed to get sort of
21:42
and then you see what people have made with it and it's just
21:44
unbelievable. The patience
21:47
these people must have or I don't know maybe I just
21:49
didn't take enough time to learn it but it is amazing.
21:52
Yes and the physical side
21:54
of it is very expensive. These modules
21:56
are kind of, they'll call them boutique
21:59
and they'll be... 100 or 200 euros.
22:02
BCV rack, it's all free. All of this stuff
22:04
is free and you can run out on your machine and you don't need any
22:06
physical space to do it. Cardinal,
22:09
it's not like an angry
22:11
fork of the project. It's a copy of the
22:14
project at a certain point but adds a load
22:16
of new features and puts open source development
22:18
at the heart of the whole project.
22:21
It bundles all of the plugins. They're
22:23
not add-ons. They're not compiled as add-ons. There's
22:25
over a thousand now, different
22:27
modules that are part of Cardinal.
22:30
One of the problems with BCV rack was you couldn't
22:32
use it as a plugin because the developer
22:34
wanted the plugin to be a commercial project.
22:38
So as a plugin you can use it inside
22:40
your own door, for example, inside Arda.
22:43
Cardinal has supports CLAP, supports
22:45
VST, it supports LV2
22:48
and it supports LV2 and
22:50
interconnecting between LV2 plugins
22:52
which is a feature specific to LV2.
22:55
So it's a big upgrade if you care
22:57
about open source on BCV rack and
22:59
just as powerful. It sounds to me like
23:01
the Libra office to VCV racks
23:04
open office. Yeah, I think hopefully,
23:07
I mean I'm all for open source and seeing the whole
23:09
thing carrying on developing in a flourishing
23:12
open source community. So yeah, I
23:14
hope so. Cardinal, I suppose, has some
23:16
of the naming problems associated
23:18
with the Libra office that VCV rack does
23:20
say what it does. But hopefully.
23:22
Yeah, Cardinal's better than VCV rack
23:25
though. Cardinal kind of sounds good. Yeah,
23:27
but are they going to get the mindshare?
23:30
I would imagine that music
23:32
tech nerds are going to be
23:35
more on it. This is not something
23:37
that normal people use like open office.
23:39
Normal people use spreadsheets
23:41
and docs whereas
23:44
the only kind of person who's going to do this
23:46
is someone who's like a bit of a nerd anyway.
23:48
So hopefully, you're
23:51
not going to have that same problem then. What
23:53
was that publication that you talked about before Graham
23:55
that actually exists by audio
23:58
nerds and it's still existent?
26:00
And then yes, there in fact is
26:02
a format for that, which is apparently actually
26:05
not quite that new But it's a fairly
26:07
simple text string and I've linked
26:09
to a page on how you can generate your own
26:11
with your own network password We're using
26:13
the QR and code tool, which is really handy
26:15
I use that all the time for loads of projects
26:17
like wire guard configs and stuff like that It's very handy
26:20
to run them through that so you can just hand somebody
26:22
a QR code that they can get their config
26:24
done that way But this is a format then
26:26
Android knows about Probably
26:29
iOS can as well I don't know and
26:31
once you click on that it then automatically figures the network
26:33
and it knows what the Access point is not a lot
26:35
and then you have to worry about it You don't have to go right
26:38
now have it on the clipboard. Can I paste it? Oh,
26:40
no, the wankers have now disabled paste
26:42
into that field because they love doing shit
26:44
like that Let's do some feedback
26:47
then Richard says I thought
26:49
I would share a nice simple PDF editor
26:51
called PDF arranger
26:53
It does most of the things I need to do to a PDF
26:56
like adding removing and moving pages
26:58
Plus a few frills like booklet
27:01
printing. Yeah, that looks really good I
27:03
still would love to find some simple PDF
27:05
reader that allows you to fill in field. It's
27:07
for forms you've given I Don't
27:10
know why that's so difficult. I know ocular
27:12
sometimes does it I was gonna say Graham
27:15
I Just had
27:17
some this week from the school and found
27:19
it really in the end just ended up printing it and
27:21
scanning which is like crazy, yeah,
27:24
I know done that too. Yeah, I
27:26
remember having a Windows 7 partition literally
27:29
just for that because I had to do a lot of PDF form
27:31
filling at the time for my job and It
27:34
was just a nightmare that either have to in Linux
27:37
print it out fill it in scan it and I did that a few
27:40
times This is just madness. I can't
27:42
do that. And so I ended up just using the official
27:44
Adobe one which worked perfectly obviously
27:47
so It's nice when
27:49
you find one in Linux, but it generally
27:51
sort of Isn't going to work a hundred
27:54
percent at the time is it there's always going to be that one
27:56
little thing that doesn't quite work And requires you to
27:58
just print it out further in at it and
28:00
yeah so I will have to
28:02
check this one out though. It's gonna be the weirdest standard
28:05
PDF it really is it's
28:07
like open but not. Yeah
28:10
exactly I just don't understand
28:12
it bloody adobe. Right
28:15
well we'd better get out of here then we'll be back next
28:17
week when who knows probably some news or something
28:19
but until then I've been Joe. I've
28:21
been Adam and I've been Graham and I've
28:24
been Will. See you later.
29:00
you
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