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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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KIM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio

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app. And joining me of course, as you know, is Jackie Ray.

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Jackie Ray is good to talk to you. I hate being right sometimes,

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I really do. But we had predicted run oh on just one,

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you know, and we called this there was going to be a major gambling

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scandal in professional sports. We said it back in March. We said within

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the next three hundred and sixty five days. We've had more than one since

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then. One of them we did not, I should say. The other

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one we did not get a chance to discuss was John Tay Porter. He

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was a backup center forward for the Toronto Raptors. Last week, he was

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banned for life from the NBA. The NBA said that Porter had wagered money

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on his own team to lose, pretended to be hurt for betting, per

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says, and shared confidential information with gamblers. That is pretty damn bad.

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And I always assume that we don't know the full story. Let me go

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one step forward. How many more out there? How many? Yeah,

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he's the scapegoat in my opinion. For sure, he's the one that they're

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using to set an example and say, hey, this could be you as

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well, which I think he's the great. Unfortunately, I think he is

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a great person to make an example of because ultimately the person who made the

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bet made up like an eighty thousand dollars bet. He's he did make some

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bets. I believe he won just over twenty two thousand dollars in those betting

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where he bet against his own team, but his salary was something like two

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point five million or something like that. So the risk and the reward just

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didn't make sense. And I think the league is saying, hey, we're

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definitely gonna come for you. It'd be interesting to see if it was one

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of their bigger stars, because I don't think if this was a Kevin Durant,

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we're seeing a lifetime ban. I just don't think that we would see

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that. If it was Giannis Anstakupo, we are not going to see a

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lifetime ban. So now becomes what are the checks and balances to make sure.

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Adam Silver said something that I was like, ooh, I don't know

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if you should have said that he's like it's our mission to maintain the integrity

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of the NBA and make sure that it is things like this don't happen.

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In my opinion, if that's really your mindset, then you don't have partnerships

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with gambling entities. Me like FanDuel, Fandle you don't have You don't have

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partnerships with gambling entities. They also have a partnership with the MGM, betting

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and DraftKings. Because there's a difference between hey, having letting them be advertisers

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and then saying we're gonna have your logo on the floor, because that's a

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sponsorship. That's a partnership. And when there's partnership, there's a mutual benefit

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to working with each other. And it just it's a slippery slope and the

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optics do not look good. Well, I do know there's an old saying

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in the Game of Bones slash Dominos, not all money is good money,

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and I think that would apply here. Since we were pretty good with our

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problem agnostication last time we broached this subject, let's do it again. It

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said in all of the published stories regarding John tay Porter that he shared confidential

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information with gamblers. It does not mean that he didn't also share information with

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other players who were gamblers. It's not explicit in that regard. And our

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reason I bring this up is because he is the brother of Michael Porter Junior,

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who presently is a star on the Denver Nuggets, who are in the

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middle of a series with the Los Angeles Lakers. I do know for a

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fact, and you know for a fact that players have inside information. Anyone

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connected to the NBA has inside information as far as injury status or utilization types

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of playsets that they may run, anything like that. I'm not accusing anyone

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of anything, but it's hard for me to believe that Michael Porter Junior didn't

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know what his brother was doing, or that John Tay Porter hasn't used information

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through other sources in his gambling career. Am I wrong to believe that No?

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I was thinking the same thing. It's the kinship of pillow talk.

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This is just something when you're around friends and family you would talk and the

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temptation is always going to be there. Unfortunately, it's just the NBA has

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built this relationship. It's very prevalent the ads that run during games. If

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you've been to a game recently, you've heard the announcer come on, like,

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get your fan duel on today. You know, there's this temptation that's

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always put out there by the league. I don't want to say by the

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league, but the league definitely allows it. So there is It's difficult for

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me to believe that he is the only one that he lives in a vacuum

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and he is the only one with all this information at his disposal that has

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made this mistake. I just don't believe it. I believe that the league

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is protecting certain people and making an example out of him. I think people

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have miss under Stuart who may not understand this topic. Think of betting in

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the traditional sense of either using a bookie or going to Las Vegas. It's

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not that anymore. To your point, it's fanduelists, DraftKings, it's prize

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picks, where you get this app on your phone and you can be betting

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on all the major sports and even some minor sports inside of ten minutes.

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You know, you can link it to your an account or friends account or

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whatever, and you can do it by third party proxy and you are betting.

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To your point, there's no reason to believe that John tay Porter was

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The only NBA player or NBA affiliated individual making bets on one of these apps

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is two damn Easy. And also they have these versions of bets called prop

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bets, where you can bet someone is going to have fewer than three rebounds

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in a game, not to win or lose, just prop bets, or

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so and so is going to only play thirty minutes. Things that can be

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very controllable by a player. That's I mean even the fans. The last

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Super Bowl, the gentleman that ran out on the field to streak, he

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did that specifically because he had placed a prop bet that a streaker was going

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to run out at that time. So and that is technically not betting on

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the game. That's betting on an event that takes place in the game.

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So if what they're saying is true, you know that he had this random

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illness that was one of his bets that he wouldn't play that well in that

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game. And so it's difficult for me to believe. We see these random

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injuries all the time that all of a sudden, the players running to the

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to the locker room, and you know, somebody is saying, well,

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we'll look into that, and then he comes back in the next quarter and it's like, Oh, he just had a slight illness or a slight sickness.

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That's always going to raise a red flag for me. Now, okay,

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explain that. So that means if a bet was made on that player,

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they're most likely going to hit the under. They're not going to hit

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the total points. They usually get their rebounds or assists or minutes played and

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by extension, can impact the overall results of the game or the point spread.

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Yes, there's too many things that a player can do without going out

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there, and you can you'll be able to see, like if they're tanking the game. So there's things that they can do all of a sudden,

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Oh I got a little cramp, Let me run to the locker room for

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a second, and then he can come back. That's not him tanking the

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game. That's him taking a few minutes to do something that could potentially be

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financially beneficial to someone else. Before we come back, I want one more

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prognostication from you. We predicted this, and we were made right inside of

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a week that there will be a major gambling scandal in a major sport inside

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of a year. We got it in the week we got two, I

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get two in a week. Here's the proposition, no pun intended again,

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how long before we see a sport defining scandal which will impact the future integrity

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of the sport? Allah a Pete Rose a la Chicago Black Socks A la

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Tim Donaghie the referee. What's the next big thing? Do you think?

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Since we're just prognosticating, I'm just gonna say that by this time next year

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there's going to be a huge scandal. That's says NBA refs have been impacting

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games to have financial gain in sports betting in the next three hundred and sixty

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five days. So we'll talk about it next week. Right when we come

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back. I had to talk to you about this, Jackie Ray, because

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you may know something about this. I know you know something about football.

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I know you know something about Colorado. I know you know something about women's

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sports. When I tell you that girls flag football is becoming a thing in

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the state of Colorado and possibly the United States, I know you got thoughts

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about that. I do. Indeed, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly

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on demand from KFI AM six forty. We're still live everywhere on the iHeartRadio

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app with our regular commentator Jackie Ray and Jackie Ray. After two years of

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what has been termed as explosive growth as a pilot program in Colorado, girls

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flag football may be officially sanctioned as a statewide sport. Talk to me about

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the significance of this moment and should I connect it to the events of the

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past two years, the growth of women's soccer, the growth of women's college

9:09

basketball, obviously, the ongoing prevalence of women's tennis. How does it all

9:13

fit together? It fits perfectly together because it needed that attention. I'm not

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going to tell you guys how long ago it was, because I'll be telling

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my age. But there was a time when Colorado had this pilot program where

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they were trying to start a professional women's football league, not this lingerie league

9:30

that we've kind of seen happen. And when I tell you, I went

9:33

out for the tryouts for the women's professional football League, and I just because

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I thought it was going to be a few people at be an easy end.

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It was not. It was thousands of women that came out to try

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out. The interest in professional sports and playing these types of sports has always

9:50

been there with women. But when you're talking about creating a league, you

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have to have the dollars, which means you have to have the viewership,

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which means you have to have the belief that you can get those dollars in

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those viewers. So I think what we've seen in the NCAA and the growth

10:03

of that specifically, and like you said, soccer, now is the time

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I think people who have the money are seeing, oh, this is something

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that can be profitable if I do it right. Women have always had the

10:13

interest, now they just have to tap into that. This Colorado, in

10:18

fact, is just a sports town. If I'm from Colorado, so at

10:22

a sports town, this is going to be an easy kickoff for them.

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That's one of the problems that they're having. They were expecting a small gathering

10:28

of women to come out, and schools are having like eighty five to one

10:31

hundred people come out to try out because again, it's a sports town. So I'm super proud of Colorado in this aspect and really pushing this needle for

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women's sports. But I just want to make it clear women have always had

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the desire to perform at a high level when it comes to athletics, but

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context is not just Colorado. Ten states have sanctioned girls flag football so far.

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Tennessee was the most recent one. It says to me that this is

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not only the now, it is the future, and it's not just girls

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flag football, but girls sports in general. Am I wrong? No?

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And with that though, it still needs to be a push. There's still

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some sports that we need a stronger push for women's sports. And because we

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still have to make this sport different sports viable for women, we need to

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make sure that we're protecting women's spaces to be able to do that. But

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the flag football narrative has been around since I was a kid. It's a

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very competitive sport. I've played flag football and flag football leagues. It's very

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competitive. It's not as easy as some people might think. You can still

11:33

get injured. But it is a great sport and it's a great sport.

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To see that it's starting to grow, especially for women. When you talk

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to young girls, and I'm sure that you do, what do you hear

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from them? Do they talk about one day going to the WNBA. Do

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they talk about playing soccer on an Olympic level or a World Cup level?

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What do you hear from young girls? You always hear they admire certain people

11:56

and they look up to certain people. One of the biggest names that I

11:58

hear because I talk to a lot of kids who want to play basketball,

12:01

it's Candas Parker. Candis Parker is still the goat for a lot of people. But now the energy is shifting. Now you hear the Caitlin Clarks and

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the Angel Reeses. But I love that. I also talk to a lot

12:11

of young girls who say, I want to be the first wide receiver in

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the NFL. And I'm like, you say that now until you take that

12:16

hit going across the village and you're going to say your whole mind. But

12:20

they do still aspire to play the sports that they love to play with their

12:26

family or friends in the backyard. And there's just like little boys growing up.

12:31

They see these people do these amazing things on the screen and they want

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to emulate that. So I think it's important for us to make sure that

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they have the spaces to emulate that. Okay, sorry, but I have

12:39

to do this. I'm getting ready to urinate in the Cereal Bowl. As

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they say, I'm going to connect these disconnected issues, but I'm going to

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get out in front of this, how long we see girls flag football?

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How long before we have to deal with the trans woman aspect in high school

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girls flag football? Probably about a week? Probably probably about it's probably happening

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right now. And again, that's one of those things that I say,

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and I'm trying to I wasn't trying to be intentionally up to, but yeah,

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just be kind of delicate in that, Yes, we have to protect

13:13

women's sports because obviously there is still a fight for women to be to create

13:18

safe places to play sports. There's no woman on this planet that is gonna

13:22

take she she might get up for me just fine, but her taking that

13:26

hit across the middle in the NFL is not going to be the same as

13:30

you taking that hit across across the middle. There are differences in our physical

13:33

beings, and gender is as a flu is not It's not fluid to me.

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Sexuality and how you identify is very fluid. But there are definite differences

13:45

between men and women, and I don't think pretending that there's that doesn't exist

13:50

is a logical thing, and it's not safe to do that. When you're talking about athletics and sports where people can get physically hurt. It doesn't make

13:56

sense to do that, and it doesn't make sense to give someone a physical

14:00

advantage because of their size, because of their muscle mass and things of that

14:03

nature. So it's very important that we continue to protect women's sports. I've

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said it before, I'm gonna say it again. I don't mind us creating

14:11

a co ed league. I don't mind creating a transgender league. But let's

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not mix. Let's not muddy muddy the waters and pretend that everything is the

14:20

same when it's not. She's Jackie Ray, host of The Jackie Ray Show,

14:24

regular commentator here on Later with Moe Kelly, and most recently joined KFI

14:30

as a news anchor. So you're going to be hearing much more of Jackie

14:33

Ray here on KFI more generally, Jackie Ray is always great to see you.

14:39

Let's make sure we do this again sometime. We'll do it again next

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week. Okay, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Shoplifting retail threat.

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I think it's on everyone's minds, just about everyone's minds. It's something

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that we're all aware of. It's something that we're thinking about on some level.

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Smashing grabs, however you want to enter into the discussion, and the

15:13

question is what is it we're not doing or need to do better in which

15:18

to handle the problem. And of course, since it's an election year,

15:22

politicians are more likely to be sensitive to our calls for a solution to that.

15:30

They're going to be more responsive to that. And there are some new

15:33

bills which are trying to make its way through the state legislature to address this.

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I don't know if it will actually be beneficial. I don't know if

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it will be effective. Just let you know what some lawmakers are trying to

15:45

do. Let me give you some statistics and background. Shoplifting jump by eighty

15:50

one percent in just the city of Los Angeles last year, eighty one percent,

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sixty six hundred reports in twenty twenty two to almost twelve than in twenty

16:07

twenty three. Again, those are just reports. Not all theft probably goes

16:14

reported. There's probably some theft which goes unreported. Statewide, reports of shoplifting

16:19

rose around thirty percent between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two. Commercial burglary rates

16:26

were up in fourteen of California's fifteen most populous counties. The stats are the

16:34

stats, They're undeniable and basically I would say they're unforgivable. Honestly, if

16:41

you've been listening obviously with John Cobal, he's been leading the way as far

16:45

as overturning Proposition forty seven. There is a submitted of ballot measure state ballot

16:52

measure that would overturn at least key components of forty seven and reinstate harsher penalty

17:00

for shoplifting and drug possession in a statewide sense, I'd agree with that.

17:04

You'd have to make the penalties stiffer. You'd have to make sure that there's

17:10

some level of deterrence. And even if it's not a level of deterrence,

17:14

there has to be a level of punishment. If people think they can steal

17:17

nine hundred and fifty dollars and only get a misdemeanor, and if you're in

17:21

La County just a citation and then you're back out on the street, then there's really no deterrent from you going out and doing it again and again and

17:29

again. It's actually financially more viable for you to engage in that behavior,

17:33

maybe make some money fencing those stolen goods and actually worrying about being arrested and

17:37

imprisoned. Now here's the thing that I'm not so sure of. I'm not

17:44

so sure that it's going to make a difference. Well, we can do

17:48

what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to at least do what we can

17:52

and control what we can. But if there is a mindset where lawlessness is

17:59

to prefer motive behavior, I don't know if the law is going to make

18:02

any difference. There's a degree of behavior in civil society which really doesn't have

18:07

anything to do with the law. In other words, I'm not going to

18:11

go out and steal something, not because I'm afraid, per se of getting

18:15

caught and going to jail. It's because that's the difference between right and wrong,

18:22

and I don't need you to lengthen the penalty or worse than the penalty

18:27

from misdemeanor to felony for me to do it. That was the case when

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I was twelve years old, It was the case when I was twenty two years old and thirty two and forty two and fifty two. That has always

18:37

been who I was as a person. The law didn't necessarily have anything to

18:42

do with it. I'm quite sure my father had a lot to do with

18:45

it, because I knew he would beat my ass, and he did regardless

18:48

if I engaged in any type of that behavior. That was the deterrent in

18:51

my household. I can't speak for anyone else, but I was more afraid

18:55

of my father than the police. I was afraid that if I were to

18:57

get caught doing something, get arrested. I was afraid of that phone call

19:02

that I would have to make to my father and those consequences that I had

19:06

to deal with because he was trying to bouncing around. But there's a point to this. He was trying to teach me consequences and being responsible before the

19:12

world did, before I ended up in somebody's prison or a morgue or a

19:18

cemetery. There are two components of this. Yes, we can strengthen our

19:25

laws. Yes we can strengthen our enforcement of the laws. I mean,

19:29

George Cascon doesn't have to do with the whole of the state. He only

19:32

has to do with Los Angeles County. But there are more things that we

19:34

can do. But having said all of that, I don't know if that

19:40

changes the mentality of people. When we're talking about people who may get on

19:48

a subway platform and stab someone in the neck, that person wasn't worried about

19:53

the penalty for murder. Yea. And we live in a city in which

19:57

they're talking about well, you know, well, we're dealing with drugs and

20:00

mental health issues just like the rest of the country. No, there are

20:06

two different conversations there. Strengthen the laws, yes, enforce the laws,

20:11

yes, But no, I'm not so sure that's going to change anything immediately

20:15

or consequential, consequentially and a consequential nature. I may be wrong. I

20:22

may be wrong, but I've lived long enough to know that just changing the

20:26

laws doesn't change people. And there's a deficiency I think we have in our

20:33

civility. There's a deficiency in our respect for one another. There's a pervasiveness

20:37

that we have in our society for all sorts of ills which cannot be solved

20:42

or cured with just changing laws. There's a sickness that we've been enduring and

20:49

dealing with for quite some time now. I've lived in Los Angeles my whole

20:52

life, and I've never seen anything likeness. The wanton lawlessness, which which

21:00

is not directly connected to the Prop forty seven in and of itself, because

21:07

Prop forty seven doesn't have anything to do with what happened on the metro platform,

21:11

for example. It's more than just retail theft. When we talk about

21:15

lawlessness in La County and California, or even America more broadly, it is

21:22

much more pervasive and I don't know if we can legislate our way out of

21:26

it. That's just from my particular point of view of watching La change over

21:33

the years, watching California change over the years, and again, I love

21:37

home. This is my home. California is my home. Los Angeles is

21:41

my home. There's no other place like it, and I love it despite

21:45

all the warts it has. And I'll be the first person to say that

21:48

La slash California has all sorts of problems, but it's still my preferred place

21:53

to live. It's still home. I understand it, I think better than

22:00

most. It's not just what happened in the past two years. We could

22:03

talk about the stats of the past two years of how shoplifting has jumped eighty

22:08

one percent, but it's just not a location thing. It's a mentality.

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It's a it's a lack of respect, it's a lack of concern for other

22:18

citizens and other civilians. Changing laws won't change that. You're listening to Later

22:25

with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty six forty is Later with

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mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And leave it to to Wallas

22:34

Sharp Well, I tell you this is to Wallace fault. It's all his

22:40

fault. Here comes the Jupiter Uranus conjunction horoscopes for the BFD transit of change.

22:48

We'll leave that alone. Aries, you're going to start seeing major shifts

22:52

in your finances Arees. You may even start to take steps towards a new,

22:56

more prosperous career path that you had thought to explore before. Now.

23:02

Trust that your growing self confidence will only help you now, Taurus, your

23:07

sense of self is being redefined by this conjunction. As in Jupiter Uranus Tarus,

23:12

you may start to put yourself out there more often and in more risky

23:17

ways. Trust that the right eyes are on you now. As you get

23:19

vulnerable and begin to live your truth, Gemini, there are old wounds from

23:26

the past that have marred your ability to see yourself clearly until now you're waking

23:32

up to the idea that your past does not define you, Gemini. In

23:37

fact, you can alchemize that pain into something very beautiful. Now, Gemini,

23:41

where does uranus come into this? Don't be afraid of what arises.

23:48

You are stronger than ever and ready to face it. Uranus is right in

23:52

front of your face. What else is new? Damn it? Cancer?

24:00

The forecast for the people of the Crab. Your social circle can either make

24:06

or break you cancer. You will use your deeply intuitive senses during this transit

24:11

to discern who's bringing you up and who's dragging you down. Love yourself enough

24:15

to take action as needed. You would benefit from spending time with the right

24:19

aligned crowd. In other words, don't spend so much time around Mark.

24:22

He's a bad influence. Fair warning, Leo, good is coming for the

24:29

Lion Pride. The transit is bringing your career to new heights, Leo.

24:33

A promotion, new client, or incredible opportunity awaits you. The universe is

24:37

supporting your success. However, however, you have to be willing to partake

24:41

in the dance, make the right calls, hang out in the right places.

24:44

The rest is inevitable, kind of like Thanos Virgo. If you're an

24:49

MCU fan, you get that I am inevitable. It's high time for Virgo

24:55

folk to transition to enthusiastic, expansion minded exclamation. Using yes, you may

25:00

find that you have new opportunities to travel, go back to school, or

25:03

enter into a training program. Virgo. Your spirit is craving novelty, and

25:07

now is the time to say yes to experiences that will expand your consciousness.

25:12

Libra. All Libras need to breathe deep and take heart. There will be

25:18

several endings that feel sudden, but you are being protected by allowing these things

25:22

to fall apart in your life. The best blessings often come after immense difficulty.

25:29

Birth and rebirth are at play here. Your feelings of confusion or sadness.

25:33

They're both valid, But if you can stay optimistic about what's coming next

25:37

to fill this void, it will arrive more quickly than you could have hoped

25:41

for. Scorpio, this is all you tuaa yea. Scorpios need to relax

25:45

and trust that the best is yet to come. Your relationships are growing at

25:51

rapid speed, and you are going to realize that there is no other shoe

25:55

to drop. You have finally finally secured the right alignments in your life and

25:59

it's only going up from here. Take time to celebrate the people in your

26:02

life that bring you so much love, and it will only multiply. I

26:07

did that, Well, yeah, won't be the first time they got this

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wrong, Sagittarius. That's me Archers must make themselves high prize. In high

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priority, you're starting a new habit that will make you feel alive again,

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Sagittarius. Regain your agency over your life by changing who or what you are.

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Giving your energy to your habits eventually become your life. Make it a

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good one filled with self prioritization. Capricorn. Romance is in the air,

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Capricorn. If you're willing to put yourself out there, getting out of the

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house, trying somewhere or something new or someone new. If you know what

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I mean and let your creative and enjoy as side show, will attract the

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right people. Some may even be showing up to stick around for a while.

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Aquarius, you are redefining what home means to you. Finding a sense

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of safety and security in your own presence allows you to say no more easily

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to the wrong people or things. Do something special for yourself during this transit,

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like a weekend away or a spa day. You deserve it. Pisces,

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a major upgrade is coming to your social circle. If you felt isolated

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or left out, that will no longer be the tune. Moving forward.

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You realize though, that you were never the ugly duckling. You are a

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swan amongst ducks all along. Let yourself shine and take up space now.

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And I have absolutely no idea what any of that means. What are you talking about it? This is literally the connection between Jupiter and Uranus. What

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No, he didn't know, he didn't earn that laugh? Come on,

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funny, funny, This is dead pan humor. I don't know about all

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that. Come on, Uranus jokes? Really? Okay? Are above your

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aim as jokes? We're not. We're not. I was hoping for like

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a Michael Hunt Sacker joke. Oh boy, wow wow, Michael wow wow.

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See we're going with the highbrow humor. Now, that's what we're doing.

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Okay. There are levels to this, getting into the Parker territory.

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Here they're scraping the bottom and there's just kind of walking across the bottom.

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It's not the exact same. Sure, don't leave me. Hang in Stephen

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at the Algonquin round table in session here. Wait, you're you're way too

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Terrek they don't know what that means. It's okay, it's they don't have

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to know everything. The right people will know, the right people will know.

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