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You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. Before we leave the subject altogether, regarding what happened what transpired at USC today, let me briefly reset. I said that what happened at USC today, those protests seemingly, and it was later confirmed, had nothing to do with the original reason for why students had amassed over the past weekend in support of Valedictorian Ostina Tobassum, who was not whose opportunity was rescinded to give a speech at graduation. The protest today seemingly had nothing to do with her at all. And I have always said, be careful who you allow to co opt, Be careful of who you allowed to speak on your behalf, Be careful who's the loudest voice at your protests. Your goals may not be their goals. And next thing you know, they have co opted your moment, your message, and then they're the ones speaking to media, and the whole point of you being there in the first place is gone, is gone. And now I found go ahead, Tiffany, you found the stated demands of the protesters today at USC. Yeah, we found, and those demands are in order from one to seven. The students want a full transparency of USC endowment and investment. Who are the students, just the students. It's a very vague every student title right right exactly, And that is a problem because it's not clear. The second and it's not true and it's not true. And the second demand is that the students want USC as an institution to quote divest from Israel. The third is complete, a complete academic boycott of Israel. The next one is to provide amnesty for all Palestinian activists and activism. The next one is to stop displacement of the South South Central community. I know what that means in terms of word meanings. I have no idea what that means within the context of this protest. Yeah, completely unrelated. Then to end policing on campus by defuncting the Department of Public Safety DPS, and to disclose and severtize with lapd oh come on. And lastly, to denounce the genocide of Palestinians and call for an immediate and permanent cease five. Waitmit, that was number seven? That number one and not number one, and nor is number eight or nine or ten on this list anything? And you mentioned of Asna to Boss, Well, that just verifies exactly what we were talking about. This had nothing to do with the actual issue on which the original protests was predicated. This had nothing to do with ostmen to Bostom, had nothing to do with the speech, had nothing to do with commencement of graduation, did not mention her or it at all, and all these other things completely unrelated have now been put in the mix. And the only reason we mentioned is to show how outside forces and agitators tried to co opt the moment and force their message on everyone. We're not saying it to give them sunlight, but we're trying to say it to show how these protests unfortunately go many times, and that is a lynchpin of what a lot of activism in recent years, at least in my experience, has become, and you lose sight again of the original issue, it becomes exploited and again co opted is the best word, and then minimized and reduced. We in the media have a responsibility, especially news organizations, have a responsibility to not only recognize it, but call it out, because if you don't get it right, then you've allowed these agitators and outside influences, you allow them to distort and abuse those who may be of genuine and sincere desire. You may not agree with the whole absence to Boston issue, you may not agree with the idea of pro Palestinian protests, but at least let it be coming from the people who are actually there for that reason, not these interlopers and these vagabonds who are coming in and trying to take over a protest for reasons having nothing to do with anything which was actually going on in that area today, but in policing on campus by defunding the Department of Public Safety, And that has never been a thing on USC's campus never. And you say the students, I'm quite sure this is not any student at all. Now, and let's say, let's say I wanted to take this seriously, Who am I supposed to contact, good luck? Right? Who am I supposed to negotiate with on behalf of the university? Who if I wanted to have an interview with and and have them explain this more thoroughly. Who am I going to talk to? I bet you it's not actually a student, right? I agree? You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty. Most of the night was spent discussing what was happening on USC's campus. From what we understand, nothing else has transpired on the campus. It has been quiet. We've been monitoring it from afar. Of course, if anything should change, we'll let you know. Keep it right here. I'm quite sure Amy King with what call will have anything on it if it should transpire. Course, after that you have Bill Handle, then Gary and Shannon, John Cobelt, Tim Conway Jr. And us all over again. When I say us, I'm talking about me and the later crew. It's a definitely a team effort. Want to thank Tiffty Hobbs for coming in earlier today. We asked you to come in basically because we knew that you knew better than most people what was likely happening within that protest matrix. You understood what the campus was like as an alum, you understood what the surrounding city was like as a resident in large parts. So thank you for coming in. And do you have any expectation or hope for tomorrow what might happen or might not happen. I think it's going to die down, like these things do until the next time. As social media continues its campaign, it's polarized campaign, will see where the students move toward, what they move toward, what side of the argument they want to amplify. The last thing I wanted to mention MOE is something that I found actually perusing social media, and it is true. It is not rumor or conjecture. It is absolutely true. USC offers a minor in something called resistance to genocide. But it is a minor and it is a minor that valedictorian Osna to Bossom will be receiving a certificate for come this next commencement. Okay, if I understand you correctly, Osna to Boston valedictorian, Yes, part of her degree, yes, will be exactly what she cannot speak out on and relate it to what is happening right now. Can you smell the hypocrisy? Is hypocrisy, it's irony, It's unfortunate, and I understand why USC was trying to cover itself and protect itself. They made the wrong decision, and I believe they understand that now. They could have said we won't have any speakers. They could have said, you know what, we need to fundamentally change our commencement exercises because of what's happening over there. We're not going to point out anyone, we're not going to point the finger to anyone. We're doing this because we want this to be enjoyable for everyone. But instead they pointed the finger at her and said, you and you alone will not be speaking. And I think set a lot of these events in motion because this is not happening at UCLA, or at least not as of yet. It's not happening at cal State Northridge, it's not happening at Long Beach State, it's not happening at cal State's biggest hills. It's not happening at any of the local universities, which says to me, the only reason it happened at USC was connected originally to OSNA to Bostom, and then from there, these outside forces have co opted the moment and the message. It was a perfect opportunity. It was the perfect opportunity for these other organizations, whether internal organizations that didn't feel heard or didn't necessarily have a platform until Osna to Bossom was alienated, or outside forces who wanted to latch on and again exploit this issue for their own personal gain, as these forces and organizations do. It was perfect crime of opportunity. We have an opportunity and a responsibility to drill down on these issues, and that's something I said we would do from the top of the show tonight, to not take the protests at face value, do not lump them all together and assume that they were all the same, because it has been demonstrated, we've shown that they're not all the same, and also they're not all sincere either. What happened at USC is not the same thing which happened at Harvard. It's not the same thing which happened at Columbia and Yale and University of Texas. Now there is some overlap, there are some similar elements, but the motivating forces and factors behind it are not the same. Clearly, what happened at USC was done by some local activists having nothing to do with graduation, even though their list of demands did not list it, didn't reference it, didn't even act like it was even remotely connected to it. And I think we have a responsibility, especially here at KFI, number one news talk station in America, to be able to look deeper than just a surface story of pro Palestinian protesters. That really wasn't what they were are for that matter, It's not it. And even though that might be the chiron on different states, and that's maybe how they're presenting themselves, that's not who they are. And we can say that they're opportunists and activists and all those things, and that's a part of the story. But we have a responsibility to get it right. And if we're going to get it right, we can't broad brush and say everybody was out there at USC and Harvard and Columbia or anywhere else, University of Michigan, Emerson College and say they were all out there for the same thing. They're all out there pro Hamas. No, no, that's not the case. There's some people who have misappropriated the message. There's some people who have some very sincere desires and concerns legitimate nature. And there's some others out there who have some nefarious interests and agendas. And we need to make sure that we expose all of it and we discuss all of it and we don't fall for the Oki dope. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty there's some irony to the news today because I thought, when I wake up, I look at the news, I open up my phone and do all these things on these news apps, take a sampling from different areas of news. And I said, oh, Reggie Bush's going to have his two thousand and five Heisman Trophy return. USC is going to receive a replica. I thought that was going to be the USC story of the day. I'm a huge Reggie Bush fan. He is, for me, probably the greatest college football player I've ever seen. Oh maybe, and there's a good argument for Barry Sanders when he was at Oklahoma State, but Reggie Bush is right there. I don't think I've ever seen anything like him when he was playing for USC, and it was aim to me how they took his heisman away for something that really didn't even have to do with him. It had to do with his relatives. It wasn't anything that Reggie Bush did. And then on the heels of that, to see how the landscape of college football has changed with nil deals and how you have players like the former USC quarterback Caleb Williams, who had made more than like five million dollars this past year. I know that Reggie Bush's family didn't make five million dollars. I don't think they made five hundred thousand dollars. It might have been the lowest fifty thousand dollars. And for what was done to not only Reggie Bush, to the USC Trojans, put on probation and loss of scholarships, to even taking away the two thousand and four national championship, it seemed overkill. And then to hold on to the Heistman Trophy for so many years. Now today it was announced that he's going to get his Heisman trophy back. I don't know how I would feel about it if I were Reggie Bush, given how much money he made for the university. And there's a tie into this, I promise you, Given how much money he made for the university, they were selling jerseys with his number five. He didn't get any of that. Now, USC they don't have the names of players on the back, but everybody know that that's Reggie Bush's number. They've made millions and millions and millions of dollars off of Reggie Bush. And for him to be so summarily dismissed, he couldn't even come on campus. He was disassociated from the university. I thought today was going to be about that. I thought USC was going to be best known in the headlines for that, and then life happened and everything got turned upside down. And I don't know what Reggie Bush feels about that. I imagine that he probably thinks, well, a whole lot of time was spent tearing me down, removing me from the annals of sports history. I remember that time he was persona non grata on university's campus in sports circles. He couldn't attend the Heisman Trophy of Award ceremony forever at that time, because for every Heisman Trophy award ceremony, if you are a winner, you can always come back to the ceremony in future years for life. Well, that privilege was taken away from him. I don't know how Reggie Bush felt that when all of that should have been in the rear view and there's some sunlight which should have been shown upon him, he was relegated to I would say the back page as it related to USC. I don't know how I felt about that, but I would feel some time a way, as they say, But I got to ask you, Tiffany Hobbs. As an alum, you felt closer to it, and you were there in the aftermath. Yeah, bye, Reggie Bush. I went to school with Reggie. You did, I did. I was there with him. I believe he's two years younger than I am. But I was there with that class that became you know, the documentary sensation on ESPN, This this famed class of USC football players. I was there with them and Reggie during our tenure. There was a celebrity on campus because of what he did for the morale of campus. Wait, I got to interrupt you there. He was bigger than most celebrities because back then LA did not have a professional football team, so the USC Trojans were the defacto professional football team for Los Angeles. He was it. He was it, and many of his of his players or those players were After what happened with Reggie happened, there was a lot of criticism of the university publicly from athletes, from people associated with university in every way. And today I've seen lots of my friends, athletes, football players who played with Reggie during that three or two or three years he was there celebrating him because they've been on this crusade for the last ten plus years to get his heisman back. So and I've seen Reggie respond to them. He seems happy, But I agree with you, Mo, I do wonder if he feels a bit slighted that he can't celebrate publicly as much as he might want to, given that he was shamed so publicly for so many years. It was really unfair because when everything went down, the then coach, Pete Carroll skip Town took a job with the Seattle Seahawks, so he didn't have to stay around for all the aftermath, the probation, the loss of scholarships. Yes, he've received criticism, but he didn't have to deal with the consequences of his coaching staff's role in all of this. He did not suffer at all. But Reggie Bush absolutely suffered. Yes, he did go on to the NFL. He had a decent career, but his name was dragged through the mud for years. It was always an asterisk by his name for all of his accolades as an athlete at SC and so now to have that redemption, I hope it's sweet for him. It's certainly sweet for those of us at the university or from the university who celebrated him then and since. But yeah, to know that people wrote his wave, rode his coattails, and then also wrote the wave of just completely divesting from him. Is it's indicative of sc And we were talking off air about this, and I'll let you go into that because I have a lot to say. Well, I mean, UFC made tens and tens of millions of dollars of off of just Reggie Bush, just Reggie Bush saying nothing of the Bowl money they got for going to the Rose Bowl or going to the National Championship, winning the championship against Oklahoma. I'm a sports historian. I remember all that. You know. I almost cried like a baby when they lost to Texas. They should have won that game. Yes, I don't know what they were doing, But the point is Reggie Bush gave more to the university than a university and general society gave him. They took far more than they deserve to take from him. And I think this was the only way you could even approach making it right. It's been almost twenty years. You can't get that time back, but at least it was made right. I don't know how they're gonna handle it in the record books. You know they're not gonna give back USC's national championship that they took away. No, And I know you can't undo it. They vacated the title. We all know who won USC one. It's just the principle of the matter. And I think Reggie Bush deserved better because he gave better. There probably arguably was no better a college running back in the history of the game, definitely in the past thirty forty years than Reggie Bush. Bar Nune, I agree. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. It's time for the viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs. Let's get into some lighter, fair move away from the sc talk for a little bit. Well, mo, as you know by day, I'm a teacher and one of the subjects I don't necessarily spend a lot of time on from my high schoolers is cursive. It's one of those subjects that you hope young people have been exposed to. But the more and more we learn, the more we find out that many people, whether young or older, are not well versed in reading or writing cursive. So this first story comes from Reddit and Instagram. It's kind of in floating all over social media. What happened was a picture was posted and it was posted of a cake. There was a cake. A person, a man decided to get a cake for his wife's birthday thirty third or thirty fourth birthday, that doesn't matter. What he wanted on the cake was the word thirty. So actually she turned thirty. He wanted the word thirty on the cake with that nice piping and actual words spelled out thirty. Okay, So this gentleman sends in the request to this bakery. It's a form, it has all the specs specifications on it. Things he wants the sizing, the colors, and the word thirty, which is spelled out. But what he does is he submits the form and the writing. His writing is incursive. Normally that wouldn't be an issue. Most people thirty or over should be able to read cursive. But what this gentleman found out is that the person who received his order did not know how to read cursive, did not disclose this information, just interpreted his writing as what she thought it was, which ended up not being thirty on the cake, but the word hint t hi n t hy she took what what the hell does that mean? There is no definition for the word. She took thirty and turned it into hint t no follow Just excuse me, I can't quite read your writing. What is it you want? No follow up? And put on the cake in beautiful piping on this luxurious birday cake the word hinty right in the middle. So when this gentleman got the cake for his wife's birthday, he said, fortunately he had a big laugh. He showed it to the wife. They laughed about it, so it wasn't a party crashing moment. But when he posted the picture, it went completely viral and opened up these conversations about how many people can't read cursive. You did not include anything in that story which said he got his money back. He did not get his money back. All hells no, he just kept the cake. He was like, oh, just he paid for thirty. He did quote unquote got hinty, got hinty. He paid money specifically for this cake to be written with a certain word on it. He did not get what he paid for. Yes, he did not get what he paid for. Now was hinty? Incursive? Hint was written in print? In print it's just a dumb ass world we live in. It's dumb. So people, if you're listening, please teach everyone around you if they're unknowing how to read and write in cursive. Please don't let this be a dying arm. It's okay, honestly, it's okay if the person didn't know cursive. But no, no, no, no, here's what here's what I mean. But a reasonable employee should have asked, I don't know what this is. I don't know what this means. You spent I don't know one hundred dollars on this cake. Can at least double check to make sure you get it right? Because I know that hinty doesn't mean anything. Maybe the maybe this baker or decorator thought it did, and rather than checking, they went with their first mind, which was just to write what they thought. This is gen Z, right, this is a gen Z totally a gen Z story. A lot of the stories that make us go, oh my goodness, our gen Z stories. It just makes no sense. There was a way to solve this. It's like, I don't know what that person meant. Have you worked at any customer service, like I don't know what this person meant well, ask find out. But who's worst in the story mode the decorator who wrote hinty of the cake. Sure, the decorator is definitely worse. The purchaser. Okay, if you just want to forgive and forget, I don't agree with that, but that's your choice. But that worker had an obligation. There was a money transaction. Get it right, And if you did, you obviously knew that hinty was not the word. You were just making the best guess of something it looked like to you. You had no idea and it never crossed your simple ass mind to at least ask no. And the purchaser did not lose sleep over this cake. I'm gonna lose sleep over this cake, right, it makes me bad. Twenty six percent of Americans are also not sleeping very well. This is our next story. There's a recent Gallup poll. Gallup is a research company organization that puts out their information, and this Gallop poll collected information on the sleeping habits of Americans and they found that twenty six percent of Americans are managing to achieve the recommended eight hours of sleep per night, which means, if you do the math, that seventy four percent of Americans are getting below eight hours. Not too revolutionary of a story, except when you add in that there is a gender gap as well, and the gender gap turns into the fact that women are sleeping far less than men because of responsibilities that women feel they have that are unequal to that of men. That is, that makes sense because you deserve less sleep than we do. Deserveless with the bridge winners, we're doing all that have been lifting. You know you are. We deserve my friend, very hinty. I just want to make sure you're paying attention. That's all paying attention. But again, this Gallop poll and its results went viral because of course people are weighing in with their own examples of how much they sleep or don't sleep. So I figured, let's do a little round robin and ask how much is everyone sleeping per night? I get about six hours six hours on average six hours. Depending on the night, I average about five to six hours. I'm right there with you, Mark. I need my beauty sleep to function, but my sleep's all over the map. Tawala is the one you want to talk to. Yeah, I don't think anyone ges three hours at night. Maybe yeah, what about you, steph uh yeah, probably four to five hours, right, what really? Yeah? People are nuts, but no, seriously, I love sleep, but my body wakes up same I. It's not disrupted sleep. It's not interrupted sleep. It's just it's a prostate thing with you. Not at all. No, my prostate's good. God, but thank you for asking. Okay, how many times a night? Let's just get it all out there. Well, it depends if I should have any alcohol that irritates the prostate, since you need to get all in my pants and everything. Okay, well we are listeners transparency into your pants. So if I don't drink alcohol because that does irritate the prostate, I don't have to get up in the middle of the night. If I should drink alcohol or drink water right before I go to bed, which is a no no. Yeah, then I'm going to get up two or three times. I think my prostate's going to file a restraining order against me. Look at the time, okay, Steah, that's what you get to look forward to. Hey, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty. Let's continue with the viral load an Tiffany Hobbs. Here are a couple feel good stories to round out this edition of the Viral Load. This next story comes from TikTok and it involves a man who took his young son toddler's son to a trampoline park. You've ever been to a trampoline park. It's where you go jump around? Right, very simple? Sure I have? Did you actually jump? No? No, no, no, I watched my younger family members jump from around. I know my limitations. I'm not going to I'm not gonna bust my ass and it should come with an ice pack. Yeah, no, I don't play with fire like that. So this father was also standing by and watching his young son jump, and what he captured on video and as pictures is what went viral because of course he shared everything to social media. So this is what happened. This father has this young kid, seven year old son, and the son is in the middle of one of these trampolines and he's jumping. He's having a good time, when all of a sudden, these unrelated teenagers, two of them boys, walk up to his son and kind of flank him on both sides. So the dad's on alert. He's thinking the worst, they're gonna bully, push, intimidate, whatever the case. But what he finds that happens is the complete opposite. These two teenagers start helping his seven year old son jump. They're holding his arms kind of helping propel him into the air. The seven year old falls as they do, they pick him up. They're jumping with them, and it's this beautiful moment where these kids and this seven year old boy are playing together. The father is so taken by this moment that again he takes pictures and video. He uploads them to TikTok and they go viral now having been seen millions of times across these platforms, because the father is saying this is how kids should be raised nowadays, that these two teenagers were prime examples of respectful kids in a time in his opinion, when kids are not as respectful as one might want. No, they're not. They need their mouth washed out with soap. They need to be put in their place. They need Look. I always say, beat your kids so they don't grow up and breaking my house. I am a firm proponent of corporal punishment. Spank your kids, yes, please, I don't care how unpopular that may be in today's world. Yes, you need to run for office. No, I don't need to do that. I just need to use this microphone to remind people. Make sure you spank your children, because I don't want them to grow up to be like Mark Runner. As you was saying ahead, you're gonna look, I saw Mark kind of weighing and should say something. Last feel good story and it's literally a feel good story because there is a cruise line, mo. This story is for you, a cruise line out of Miami that is set to launch its first ever nude cruise in twenty twenty five. So you have little less than a year everyone to get yourself the way you'd want to be seen news on a cruise with thousands of strangers. Those things are better an idea, not reality, No pun intended. I'm serious. You know you think of like going to a nude beach or something. If you've been like the San Diego I think it's black speech. Yes, okay, the idea is much better than the reality. I want people want to think it's like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, eyes wide shut and all that kind of stuff. It's not that. It's not that you get to see a lot of people who should not be walking around nude, okay now, and I'm not going to do that, So I'm not going to say that I'm any different. It's just this is the Norwegian Cruise Line, so very popular cruises it is, and they are launching on February third of twenty twenty five, so you have about eight where they're going. They are going to be sailing to the Bahamas, San Juan, Puerto Rico, Saint Lucia. They're kind of going through the Caribbean and it will be an eleven day voyage. It has been dubbed the twenty twenty five Big Nude Boat. I wonder how the crew staff handles that. It just seems would be weird. Handles two different words, okay, deals with manages. It works with very carefully. Yeah, it just very tenderly. Hopefully it's not attractive to me. My thing is I'm glad they're going somewhere warm, because that would be a pity. Imagine the sunburn that you could get. Sunburn. Yeah, that's the least of my concerns that. You know, if they want to get sunburned, they can get sunburn. It's just not I just don't know the appeal. And I have some friends who are nudists and we've had this conversation on a number of occasions. For me, I just don't get it. You know. I don't even walk around my own house nude. I just don't do that. Yeah, it feels very vulnerable. It's a little too little, too free for me. Yeah. Look, look, but I'm even in the shower. My dogs would have looked at me like I need to go away, because they'd be staring. It's like, what, it's this weird. It's just weird. Dogs aren't smart. Listen, You're right about this. The people who want to be nudists are never ever the ones you want to see nude. I during college, I had a friend who drove an ice cream truck down to Uh this already sounds weird. He would take it down to the nude park, beach whatever in Spokane, Washington, believe it or not, and he wanted me with him just for safety and the people. Then, the sagging, leathery naked people who came up to this ice cream truck would give you PTSD. I'm not kidding. Yeah, that's never been the thing. I mean, I could tell you some other things where the idea is better than the reality. It's just not suited for the radio. And they're so fid in And we're not body shaming or age shaming. I was rich Corinthian leather shaming. Go ahead, Stephani heard that one, Go ahead, No, okay, Oh, there we go. Speaking of nude beach, as you said, you know you've made, maybe experienced a nude beach. Quick story when I was younger, I want to say about four or five. And I'm sure my mother is cringing and going, don't tell this story. But we happened upon a nude beach, that nude beach in San Diego when I was four or five, and so I saw my first descriptive as Mark just did. Leathery, tanned, sagging people coming towards me at four and five, just out there, very happily. And we did not stay long. It was a quick stop off on a trip I think back to La or to San Diego for a dip in the ocean, and got a lot more than what we bargained for. Yeah, when I went, it was I was a senior in high school as a matter of fact, and I was They were given like a tour of UC San Diego. That was one of the schools i'd applied to, got in, took the tour down there. It was my backup school. But then you have time to kind of see them. Yeah. Yeah. So I had the car driving around. I had heard about black speech, so I said, let me just pull up to see what's going on. See what I can see. Nah nah, Now European beaches, look out, South Beach, Miami, look out. There's some stuff to see down there. Well, this cruise line is starting in Miami most so if you go, I'd rather go to South Beach. I don't want to go on the cruise. No, that's okay, but I appreciate that. You're welcome. Give your ticket back. No thank you. 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