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You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty AM

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m M six forty. It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on

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the iHeartRadio app and California Government. They're doing it again. I know our

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government is made up of the people that we, when I say we citizens

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have voted for, but it doesn't mean that everything that they do is worthy

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of emulation or applause or anything like that. And when I talk about government

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in a general sense, I don't think people who are elected to office by

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and large have the interests of their constituencies at heart. Someone hit me on

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Instagram and said, mo, you should run for office. I said,

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I should absolutely not run for office, because it's almost like I know too

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much as far as how the sausage is made. I know that most politicians

1:04

are full of ish. Most politicians and elected officials are unserious, and it's

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about staying in office and the perpetual campaigning and what have you. And they

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will say anything to just about whomever they think is the constituency which is best

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suited to get them re elected. I have no illusions. That's why I'm

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registered independent. There are deeply held beliefs I have, and there are certain

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politicians who are more in alignment with them, But by and large, I

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just can't take elected officials seriously. Here's what I mean. In California,

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for the past two years, more than the past few years, we've again

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and again and again sought to pass bills which were more in the purview of

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the FDA than actual governance in the sense of things which actually improve our lives.

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I don't need the government to tell me what to eat, what not

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to eat, how to eat. I don't need the government to tell me

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what can or cannot be put into food. I leave that to the state

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Department of Health, leave that to the FDA. Proposed California bill would ban

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methylene chloride from decaffeinated coffee production. I said I was going to talk about

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this. I didn't get to it last hour. I'll get to it this

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hour. And I say this as someone who is very rare. I don't

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drink coffee, never have I know, Mark, I'm serious. I don't

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drink coffee, and working in radio, you think I drink coffee. The

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only time I've ever had coffee, as in like hot coffee, I was

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in Spain, I went to a dunkin Donuts and they didn't have any water

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per se. You know, they didn't have any drinks. Everything was coffee.

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Coffee was everywhere, and I said, well, when in Barcelona,

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do is the Barcelonians? So I had coffee while I was there. Didn't

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like it. Never grew on me growing up. Both my parents heavy coffee

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drinkers, didn't like it. Never grow on me. I liked hot chocolate

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because I didn't like to taste of coffee. And at best I will have

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an iced coffee. Back when I was filling in for Bill Handle on rare

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occasion, I'm not a morning person, so getting up at four o'clock in

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the morning to do a six am shift, I needed a little pick me

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up. That's the only time outside of that. Never so I don't have

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a personal vested interest in whether they banned this particular coffee ingredient or if they

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banned coffee altogether. I won't miss it. I won't care about it one

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bit. You really hate America, don't you. I hate everything about America

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when it comes to coffee. Oh my god, this is abnormal. Realize

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that you're the abnormal one. I admit that I am a strange individual.

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This is just one of my peculiarities. Okay, it's just one of them.

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I got a bunch of them. But the chemical in question is methylne

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chloride. It's a colorless liquid that federal regulators have already banned in certain manufacturing

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and industrial processes, but not in food or drinks. Coffee companies use methyline

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chloride to remove caffeine and this one. Assembly Member Eloise Gomez Rees is the

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author of Assembly Bill two zero sixty six, which would ban methylene chloride from

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all coffee products in the state. Quote. There are three ways of decaffeinating

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coffee going through the process. This is the only one that uses a known

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carcinogen to decaffeinate it. Of course, the National Coffee Association is against this

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proposed ban. The President and CEO Bill Murray, not that Bill Murray,

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but his name is Bill Murray, had this to say. Quote. The

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activists sponsoring this bill have not presented any evidence to justify banning the most common

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type of decalf because none exists. Not only is there no evidence of any

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health risk, but in fact, decades of independent scientific evidence demonstrate that drinking

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European method decalf like all coffee, is associated with reduced risk of multiple cancers

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and chronic diseases. The World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, the

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American Institute for Cancer Research, the World Cancer Research Fund, and California's own

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Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment agree close quote. Well, it's pretty simple

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to me. Just be a non coffee drinker like me. That'll in all

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your problems. Sean, do you drink coffee? You do a little bit.

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I do an occasion thought, only ice, though I don't like hot

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drinks either. Okay, at best, I'll do ice coffee and it's definitely

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not decaffeinated in nature. What's the point. Yeah, it's like a non

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alcoholic beer. Yeah, and I never I never drank beer for the taste,

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right, I drink beer for the buzzy exactly. If I'm going to

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a baseball game and that's about the only time I have beer, I will

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have a beer for the purpose of having a light buzz and watching the Dodgers.

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I don't go home and say, hey, why don't I have me

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and old duels? Nor Mark, do you have the hotline to the nuthouse?

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Because I need you to get them on the line and have some straight

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jackets come up here with this coffee. That is a politically incorrect way to

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emotionally and unstable people. Okay, coffee, beans, nuts, it's all

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in the same. We need some sort of intervention here, We need we

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need you to be put in volunteer. You're more upset at me not drinking

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coffee than this proposed California bill which would outlaw methylne chloride. When they packed

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the caffeinated is it a carcinogen or is it not? I don't know.

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I'm saying that's what the story says it is because wait, wait, there's

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a carcinogen in cigarettes and that hasn't been outlawed. Well, the existence of

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one bad thing doesn't justify the existence of further bad things. I would say

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that just because there is a carcinogen, that doesn't mean that it's been worthy

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of being banned. So you're gonna take this bold pro cancer stance, This

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is admirable. Lie like this. No, no, no, there's a

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carcinogen in alcohol. I am pro the ability to have a drink, to

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have a smoke, it, even have decaffeinated coffee. Now, if you

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want to say there has to be a warning label as there is on cigarettes.

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If you want to limit how it can be advertised, as there is

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a limit to the way you can advertise alcohol and cigarettes, that's a different

7:46

discussion. I'll have that discussion, but damn it, when I get home

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tonight, and probably you will too, we'll have a nightcat. Well,

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let's meet in the middle on this. I think we can find some common

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ground here. Anybody who wastes my time drinking decaffeinated coffee, maybe you deserve

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cancer. How about that or a slap slap. I'm not gonna wish cancer

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on anybody. I'm just trying to compromise. Don't drink decoffinated decaffeinated coffee.

8:13

Don't do it. You are lower than low and I'm the person who's supposed

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to be in the nutthouse. Goodness, gracious, you just around here wishing

8:22

cancer on people just because they don't drink your fully caffeinated coffee. Don't blame

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the people trying to compromise in you the American way. You say I hate

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America. Do you know how American coffee is? You might as well be

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running around the office here in a speedo with a rising sun on it.

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Look at the top. Yeah, it's Later with Mo Kelly if I am

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six forty. How did we get here? How did we get here?

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With life everywhere? In the iHeartRadio app, you're listening to Later with Moe

8:52

Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. Well, welcome to the party,

8:58

y'all, Welcome to the party. It's it's so funny hearing all the

9:01

discussions today across social media. On TV, you even had political commentators talking

9:07

about why is Caitlyn Clark not making as much as the man? Why is

9:11

she only gonna make maybe three hundred and forty thousand dollars across the four years

9:16

of her rookie contract. And I said, oh, y'all so cute.

9:20

You haven't been actually following WNBA basketball or women's college basketball. You just came

9:28

to it recently because of Caitlyn Clark. It's so cute. And your fake

9:33

outrage because you don't even understand how any of this works. You don't know

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what a collective bargating agreement is. You don't understand how the NBA had to

9:41

fight for all these progressive rays increases for the players over thirty five years or

9:46

so. They had lockouts, they had strikes, They had all sorts of

9:52

fights about revenue sharing and merchandise and broadcast rights. And you say, well,

9:56

Kitlin Clark should be paid more. No, she shouldn't, because she

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is being brought in under the twenty twenty collective bargaining agreement, which was negotiated

10:05

and agreed upon by two sides, the owners and the Women's Players Association,

10:13

the union. It was agreed upon and there's a payscale, a rookie payscale.

10:16

It didn't matter if it was Caitland Clark or it was maybe Bethany Brown

10:20

in the newsroom, whoever was going to be number one pick overall, they

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were going to get that exact same contract because that was collectively bargained agreement.

10:31

That wage scale was agreed upon. Why, because that's all the WNBA can

10:37

afford. Realistically, you can't pay Caitlin Clark the same as you did Victor

10:43

Winbeyama the number one overall draft pick for the men in the NBA, because

10:50

they're not there as in the WNBA. They're not bringing in the same level

10:54

of revenue, they're not commanding the same amount of money for their broadcast rights.

10:58

In twenty fourteen, the NBA sold its broadcast rights for twenty four billion

11:05

dollars was ten years ago. Ten years ago, and when they're renegotiated next

11:09

year, it's expected to sell for two point five times that. It should

11:15

be maybe sixty billion that'll be sold for across many networks. The WNBA is

11:20

not there. You raise that rookie pay scale and also the average pay or

11:24

minimum pay for all the players in the league. By expanding their broadcast rights,

11:28

which they have to sell, they've made one step forward by selling.

11:33

I should say that that deal that the WNBA entered into with CBS, and

11:37

so the Indiana Fever and other teams will be shown on national TV through all

11:41

out the WNBA season, which I might add is only half the length of

11:46

the NBA season. WNBA only plays like forty games. NBA plays eighty two

11:52

games. There's another point of comparison. But if you believe, if you

11:56

personally believe that Caitlin Clark should be making more money or the women of the

12:01

WNBA should be making more money than it's incumbent upon you to put your money

12:05

where your mouth is. That means purchasing a description, a subscription on the

12:11

w NBA League Pass it means buying merchandise, it means watching the events,

12:16

it means talking about the league and also the games on social media. But

12:20

it just seemed like you just found out about the league last year, maybe

12:22

last week, or nothing before, Caitlyn Clark. That's what it sounds like,

12:28

because if you're talking about the women's pay and you don't understand what a

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collectively bargained agreement or revenue sharing, how both of those things figure into the

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rookie pay scale, which is locked in and has been locked in for the

12:43

WNBA since twenty twenty. If you don't understand those things, then yes,

12:46

it's going to seem like it's so unfair. It's just unfair. Kitlin Clark

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deserves more money. Did you see the ratings for the NC two A game.

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It's a different league. I don't care. It just seems unfair Kinglin

12:56

Clark, she was so good on SNL, she deserves millions of the get

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an endorsement. I don't care. That's how you sound because you don't understand

13:05

how it actually works. And if you don't understand how it actually works,

13:09

then yes, it's going to seem unfair. The WNBA can't even afford can't

13:15

even afford to fly all their players' private they still are flying commercial. Lakers

13:22

got their own team plane. All the NBA team's got their own team plane.

13:26

Why Because they're bringing in billions and billions of dollars. The w NBA

13:31

is presently losing millions of dollars each year. Can that change? Absolutely?

13:37

That's why you have a Kitlin Clark and hopefully get a better TV deal.

13:41

But the point is you cannot pay the WNBA until they on the same level

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as the NBA, until they start making NBA level revenue from ticket sales,

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merchandise, jersey sales, broadcasts and streaming rights soul. Until the WNBA performs

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on a level pun intended of the NBA in a monetary sense, then the

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players are not gonna get paid the same amount. I don't want to hear about. Well, the women are doing the exact same job as the men.

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Oh no, no, no, we're talking about a business here. Well, what about the ratings for the NCWA. That's one game and that's

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college that's not pro that'll do barn gangbusters for the next TV deal for the

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nc two A tournament. But we're talking about the NWNBA. The WNBA has

14:28

to demonstrate in this year, this time, while they have Caitlin Clarks and

14:31

all the eyes of America watching. Since you're now in WNBA fan for all

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of twenty minutes, you gotta put your money where your mouth is and actually

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support the league, not just you, but your family members, your friends.

14:46

And then you will start to see it more places. Because I remember,

14:48

Stephan, I don't know if you remember this, or maybe I didn't

14:52

tell you this, but Mark wouldn't know this because he wasn't here yet. But when we first started the show and I had John Jackie Ray, we

14:56

were talking about the WNBA CUNC consistently and people were saying they were hitting me.

15:03

Then when I was on Twitter and other social media, why you're always talking about WNBA. No one cares about that league. No one cares about

15:09

women's basketball. That's what I got. I have been consistent. I have

15:16

always been all in on women's basketball, women's soccer, women's tennis. I

15:20

am a legitimate fan. I can tell you about the teams. I can

15:24

tell you about the star players, the key executives, all of that.

15:28

And now people were sending around this meme talking about Caitlyn Clark. Deserves more

15:31

money. No. No, The WNBA owners negotiated and collectively bargaining agreement keyword

15:41

agreement with the players union as far as salary and pay structure and revenue sharing

15:48

relative to the money they were bringing in, and the league wasn't bringing in

15:50

money. It is subsidized. The league is subsidized by the NBA. It

15:54

is losing money, and they're still paying their players as at this moment,

16:00

is not generating a profit, so there's no revenue to speak of to share.

16:07

If Caitlin Clark can be the catalyst to change all that wonderful, I

16:12

am all for it. But if you're gonna send me that meme one more

16:17

freaking time talking about how Caitlin Clark is only as gonna make some four hundred

16:19

thousand dollars from her w NBA contract for the first four years, You're an

16:23

idiot. You're dumb. You're dumb, dumb, dumb. You need to

16:27

stop sending it to me. You're just mad and loud and dumb. I

16:33

know that sounds harsh, but someone needs to tell you that because I've been

16:36

talking about w NBA for years now, and now you want to say,

16:40

Mo, did you see this I'm surrounded by idiots. Not you, Mark,

16:45

Not that's around. I'm just saying in the in the you know,

16:48

the bug sphere, in the in the web and the worldwide web, of

16:51

course, of course, and get back to me when you're ahead of the curve. On women's wrestling, we talked WWE. We've had Bianca bell Air

16:59

on here twice. What are you talking about? Okay, are you sure

17:02

you work on this show? Stefan? Can you remind them how many wrestlers

17:04

we have on it? Let's see female wrestlers. Well, let's just focus

17:08

on that a little bit more. Please, all right, we've had a

17:12

number of female wrestlers, wrestlers in general. Okay, I'm a fan of

17:18

wrestling, and I would like to meet I think you should pay closer attention

17:22

to the show. You might become a fan. My goal is to do

17:25

that at some point. It's Lady with mo Kelly. We have more w

17:29

NBA talk and Caitlyn talk because y'all need to be educated and just woman.

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

17:40

It's weird. I was watching cable news. I was watching broadcast news.

17:45

I was listening to commercial radio, I was listening to public radio, and

17:48

just about every outlet was discussing the Caitlyn Clark phenomena. That's good, but

17:53

also talking about the pay disparity in the WNBA. That's bad because that's not

17:59

new. But people want to act like, oh my gosh, this is

18:03

such a tragedy. This is just a this is something which just can't happen

18:07

in America. It's unfair. It's gender disparity. No, it's not.

18:14

It's not gender disparity. It has to do with capitalism and revenue sharing.

18:21

And I'm gonna remind folks, and I leaned on Stephan but now I had

18:25

to go back and look it up. Do you remember Britney Griner. We

18:29

were talking to Jackie Ray, who is a w NBA correspondent for night Cast

18:33

Media, and Britney Griner. That was the biggest story in the nation,

18:38

how she pled guilty to having you know, marijuana something something on her in

18:45

Russia and people were asking, what the hell are you doing playing in Russia?

18:51

And we had the discussion. Then the WNBA players were not making enough

18:56

money in the WNBA, so they were playing in international leagues. Russia at

19:02

the time was one of the top paying leagues. That's how they were able

19:06

to afford a Britney Grinder. I think she was making about a million dollars

19:10

a year playing in Russia. They said, why the hell would you go

19:12

to Russia because they were paying. This is not a new issue. We

19:17

were discussing back in July of twenty twenty three and all you new found WNBA

19:22

fans did not care because you didn't like Britney Grinder. But the underlying foundational

19:27

issue was still there. It was you didn't care when those players not named

19:33

Caitlin Clark, who had actually proven themselves in the WNBA. You didn't care

19:38

when they were not getting paid. You just care now you can't even tell

19:42

me who is the number one player in the draft last year. That's what

19:48

I thought, So save all the outrage about this is so unfair. You

19:52

know what fair is for fairies for five year olds, because when you're five

19:56

years old, that's when your mama and your daddy should have told you that

19:59

fair to that actually exist. This is not about fair This is about a

20:03

collectively bargained agreement between owners and the players union which dictates the payscale for the

20:11

subsequent years until the next collectively bargained union agreement. If you want to be

20:15

mad at someone, be mad at the WNBA players Union, which agreed to

20:18

this deal. Or you can be mad at the owners for continuing to subsidize.

20:23

When I say owners, they're usually NBA owners that own both the NBA

20:26

franchise and a WNBA franchise. You can be mad at the owners for subsidizing

20:30

the NBA, which would not exist without the continued financial support of the NBA

20:36

team's slash owners. Having said all that, there is an opportunity here to

20:41

change the trajectory of the WNBA, and it was never more apparent than watching

20:47

the draft last night. I had it on in the studio. It was

20:51

going on up until my show. It started a few hours before my show,

20:53

went into my show, and I got to tell you it was well

20:57

done. The ladies were well dressed. You could tell they took advantage of

21:03

the moment. And I don't say this to be salacious, but the women

21:07

look beautiful and how they're being presented. It was a good way to showcase

21:12

the league and the growth of the league, the impending growth. There were

21:18

a number of names in that draft class that you and I both know because

21:23

of the storylines. We talked about how the storylines were so important. Because

21:26

of the storylines of Caitlin Clark, you already know who Angel Reese was.

21:32

When they showed Paige Becker's from Yukon, who's not coming out this year,

21:34

who will probably be the number one draft pick overall next season, you know

21:38

who she was because of the storyline between Iowa and Yukon in the tournament.

21:45

That's what grows the game, and you will have some of these players coming

21:52

out of this growth in the league who will become stars, not w NBA

21:57

stars, but transcend the where casual fans, non fans know who these athletes

22:04

are. There are a lot of people who have no interest in the w

22:07

NBA who now know who Angel Reese is. For example, Okay, it's

22:14

little by little, brick by brick, but if one more person sends me

22:18

that damn Caitlin Clark mean about how much money she's not making or deserves to

22:22

make her pay them what they're pay them what they're worth, I promise you

22:26

I will block you on site. I like blocking people anyhow. If I

22:30

had a block button for Mark Ronn. I would have blocked him ages ago.

22:33

You wouldn't. He always has something to say. I'd rather at least

22:36

mute him, but I can't. I don't control Thank you, Stefan.

22:40

You don't have the willpower. I don't have the means. Oh, I

22:44

have the willpower. I like blocking mother father's. I will block y'all left

22:48

and right. I will throw a block party in them in a heartbeat.

22:52

I would be so empty without me, you wouldn't know what to do with

22:55

it. I'll put up those cones and those those concrete barriers around the studio

23:00

and I will just block people the rest of the night. I'll open up

23:03

my threads. I don't have Twitter anymore, but I'll open up every social

23:07

media app. I have a true souls. I'll just get on there and

23:10

just block people. I have an account there. I don't even use. Just block. I think you need to get back on Twitter and start arguing

23:17

with people again. I enjoyed that. Nope, I enjoy not going through

23:21

the stress of people who were just trolling. They didn't have anything constructed to

23:23

say. They were just mad that I was in this time slot. Well,

23:26

I'm not going anywhere. Too bad so said block. See there,

23:30

here we go. That's what I like. But to be serious for a

23:33

moment, just one of course, of course, let's bring it down.

23:37

This is a time. If you really want to see the WNBA succeed,

23:42

you actually have to act like it. You can't send me on one day,

23:48

going back to last segment, jokes about how nobody watches the WNBA,

23:53

nobody cares about the women's game. It's bad basketball. You can't send that

23:59

to me last year, and the same account send me this year. This

24:03

is so unfair to Caitlin Clark because you only care about the league now because

24:07

of Caitlin Clark. That is your only point of entry. That's the only

24:10

name that you know. That's the only thing you know about this sport. And for all of twenty minutes that you've been paying attention, twenty minutes,

24:17

you want to tell me now what I need to look out for, what

24:21

I need to discuss, what I need to be aware of of, you know, just the unfairness of it all and your outrace. You're angry.

24:29

You want me to do something about it. I want you to learn how

24:33

simple stuff works. When they renegotiate for the last time, the collectively bargained

24:38

agreement which will dictate the rookie pay structure and contracts revenue sharing going forward.

24:45

That next agreement, which I believe is next year. I think it's like

24:48

every five years you will see a dramatic increase in pay for not only rookies

24:53

but also players at large in the WNBA. So fewer because of this moment,

25:00

fewer will have to go overseas to play to just make ends meet.

25:06

Like a Britney Griner who made maybe two hundred thousand in WNBA, but made

25:10

a million dollars in Russia, and you were okay with her being jailed in

25:15

Russia because she'd enact the way that you wanted her to act. But now

25:19

you're mad because Caitlin Clark is not making that money. Well, if you're

25:26

actually concerned about the WNBA, the league, then you have to be concerned

25:30

about the league. Buy a t shirt, buy a ticket, watch a

25:33

game, call a friend. I don't know what you need to do,

25:36

but you have to actually support the league. Get a subscription to WNBA,

25:40

League pass, whatever, Tune until later with Mokelly as we talk about it

25:44

just about every week, shout out Jackie Ray. You have to actually support

25:48

the league. And if you actually support the league, then you can say,

25:52

hey, the WNBA salaries are increasing and people like Caitlin Clark are being

25:59

paid there. But until you do that, it will never happen. None

26:03

of your memes or hashtags mean anything. You actually have to support the league.

26:08

You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.

26:15

But Steph, and I gotta ask you. I know you're a dog

26:18

lover like me. Coming up on Sunday, Sir, is the Wiggle Waggle

26:22

Walk. I'm gonna be there. Riley's going to be there, Benson is

26:29

going to be there. My wife, I don't know. She's still undecided.

26:33

She may just want to stay in bed. But the three of us

26:37

are gonna be there. I'm gonna meet all of you. The question I

26:40

have to you, Stephan, is are you going to be there? Not

26:44

sure? I'm not syre like Tim Cammy, I don't know. Well,

26:51

if you'd like to come out and join us. The Wiggle Waggle Walk and

26:55

Run is one of Pasadena Humane's biggest fundraisers each year, with proceeds helping to

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save lives of thousands of animals in our community with programs such as foster Care,

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Kit Nursery, Animal ICEEU Wildlife and more. I am part of the

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KFI team. I have donated in support of Amy King, who's our team

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captain, and KFI has been the top fundraising team for the last three years

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and we want to make sure that it's fourth year. This year, we

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want to keep our street going. We can only do that with your help.

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You can go to kfiam six forty dot com, forward slash wiggle and

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it'll give you all the information there where you can donate. Process is fast,

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easy and secure and you can be sure that it will benefit animals in

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need. So come on out Sunday Brookside Park and Pasadena. It starts at

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nine am for the walk, but there are plenty of other things to do

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hang out. I would love to say hello to you. Riley, my

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younger Mini Schnauzer. He's antisocial. He will probably bark at you in everyone

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who may come up to me. That's just who he is. Benson,

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he's a little older, he's much more laid back. He just wants to

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fight a place in the sun, to just sit down and just roll over

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on his back. That's all he wants. I know that if I give

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him that, he's happy. Riley he's an instigator. He'll take on coyotes

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or does not matter. I was gonna say, does he ever get Benson

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like in public? Does he get him rolled up? Ever? Always?

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Always? No, no, no, always. And they're kind of like

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Abbott and Costello. One is looking at the other, one's like, what

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is wrong with you? That's a great comparison. I mean, honestly,

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like, what's wrong with you? This is like, I'm here to have

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a good time, get some snacks, you know, maybe yeah, maybe

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have some people pet me. And here you are instigating, barking at people,

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telling everyone to go away. It's counterintuitive, is counterproductive. Get what

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the program man? And they will fight at home for that reason. What's

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the what's their age difference? Benson is six, he'll be seven on Halloween,

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and Riley is four. He will be five on November twenty ninth.

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Oh wow, okay, yeah, so they're getting in the middle age.

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Just Vinson is slowing down in the sense of he doesn't need to be jumping

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around all the time. But he has his moments where he will start wrestling

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with Riley, just let him know that he's still the alpha in that relationship.

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Oh yeah, But looking forward to the Wiggle Waggle Walk, something we

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do each year, and I'm this year most definitely. And it's a good

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time if you've never been. There are plenty of vendors, there's food,

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there's souvenirs you can buy. You can meet with other pet owners and exchange

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information and wisdom. And again, I'll be there and I'm looking forward to

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meeting you, and I'll be out there with my dogs. So I always talk about all the time, and they're the joy of my life. They

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are the kids who never grow up. You know, that make you mad,

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but also they make your life really fulfilling. I can't speak for cats,

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you know, there's just a different relationship going on. You know,

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dogs are in fact different from cats. You really lit on something there.

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Yes, yes, yes, they're very different. I understand that you're a

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cat lover. Well, no, I like dogs too, But I just

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don't have a yard where I can have a dog. Well I understand that.

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And when I lived in a townhouse, it was difficult. Before my

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wife and I bought this house, we were living in my townhouse and it

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had a balcony and Benson was the only dog we had at the time,

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and he would use the balcony to do his thing on people below, which

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was very funny. I can't be mad at the dog going outside and doing

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what the dog is supposed to do outside. Now, if you just happen

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to be walking underneath my balcony at the time, that's a U problem.

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That's a you and a golden shower problem. That's right. You know. Just be glad as the number one and not a number two. You have

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to take your victories wherever you can. A glass half full of pee,

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yes outlook, yeah, look at the time. It's a later with Mo

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