Podcasting partners Martin Tanner and Greg Jarrard are together once again to discuss a subject that pushes many friends and family members apart: politics, or more specifically politicians. Whether you're Left or Right or smack dab in the middle, when somebody asks the question in jest, "how do you when a politician is lying," you immediately know the answer: "When his lips are moving." Martin and Greg point out that most people agree that "it's the other guy" who is wicked. But, it's not that easy, is it? Martin makes the point that when people of good faith get all the facts without all the spin they are more likely to agree than disagree. They also remind us what Adams, Madison and others said about the Constitution, namely, that it was created for a religious and moral people and is totally unsuited for anyone else. And, that's where it gets messy when politics and religion often become an explosive mixture. Finger pointing isn't the answer – listen and come to your own conclusions.