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in Oklahoma checking on a man sitting on

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0:35

up solving a seven-year-old cold case.

0:37

Yep, we're digging into this man's

0:39

alleged confession and the chilling new

0:41

details about his attempts to confess

0:43

in the past all with Police

0:45

Sergeant Kyle Sjoberg. Welcome to Sidebar,

0:47

presented by Law & Crime. I'm

0:49

Jesse Weber. October

0:53

5th, 2016. That

0:56

is when 19-year-old Jennifer Malloy, who

0:58

went by her middle name Kylie

1:00

and the nickname Smiley, was

1:03

found dead in her apartment in Edmond,

1:05

Oklahoma. Police say they followed up on

1:07

multiple leads. They were never able to make any arrests. It

1:09

was a cold case. It was a cold case. But

1:12

then, you fast forward. Just now, May

1:14

3rd, 2024, almost eight years later, Oklahoma

1:19

State Troopers stopped to do a welfare check

1:21

on a man sitting on the side of

1:24

Interstate 40. Not suspecting anything

1:26

more. Troopers called

1:28

Edmond Police when 28-year-old

1:30

Joseph Tyler Beck suddenly

1:33

confessed to strangling Kylie to

1:35

death all those years ago.

1:38

In a Facebook post with photos of

1:40

the arrest, Oklahoma Highway Patrol said, This

1:43

is yet another example of how a trooper never

1:45

knows exactly what he or she will encounter on

1:47

the side of the road. Good

1:49

job by everyone, and we hope this

1:52

ultimately ends in answers for an Oklahoma

1:54

family. I want to talk about

1:56

Beck's alleged confession and his connection to

1:58

Kylie and her family. and her family, let me

2:00

bring in right now, Kyle Schoberg, Sergeant

2:03

with the Citrus Height Police Department

2:05

in California, co-instructor of the Patrol

2:07

Survival Tactics Seminar, and host of

2:09

the Shots Fired podcast, which is

2:11

available on YouTube as well, right,

2:13

Kyle? Correct, yeah, we're on

2:15

YouTube, yep. Yep, all right, well, good to see

2:18

you. Thanks for coming on. My

2:20

first question to you is your

2:22

reaction. You have this man apparently

2:25

spilling this secret after

2:27

more than seven years in the

2:29

most strange way possible. Yeah,

2:32

so this is actually a super complex case, and

2:34

I think when people first read this, they think,

2:36

well, this guy probably had all this guilt. He's

2:38

caused contact on the side of the road, and

2:41

he just confessed to killing this girl, and then

2:43

they just booked him for murder, and

2:45

that's just not the case. There's actually a lot that

2:47

goes into these types of cases. And

2:49

honestly, when you have a cold case like this

2:51

where the cops have exhausted all leads,

2:53

they couldn't come up with a suspect, they may have

2:55

had a lead on a particular suspect, or maybe they

2:58

were even looking into this guy as

3:00

a potential suspect, but if the evidence isn't there

3:02

to actually charge him with that crime, they

3:05

have to let time go by and hopefully

3:07

develop something later on. And in this case,

3:09

I think for this individual, he's

3:11

sitting on the side of the road. Eight

3:14

years have gone by after he's committed this

3:16

heinous crime. He was really good friends with

3:18

this girl. He invited him over to the

3:20

apartment. And I think all that pressure and

3:22

guilt was just building and building over time

3:24

on this guy. The

3:26

state troopers made that statement about, you do

3:28

never know who you're contacting out on the

3:30

street. And that is one of the unique

3:32

things about being a police officer and contacting

3:35

multiple people every day out in the field,

3:37

traffic stops, pet stops, you name it. It

3:39

is extremely dangerous. You do not know who

3:42

you're contacting. And in this case, this guy

3:44

did murder a girl, and he is on

3:46

the run. And you don't know if that pressure

3:48

has built up so much as soon as these

3:50

cops contact these people. They're

3:53

thinking they're paranoid. They're thinking the cops are on

3:55

to me. They know what I did. And they

3:57

lash out and either commit violence towards the officers.

4:00

to try to get away, fortunately. Go

4:02

ahead. Here's the thing, though. Like, he – and look,

4:04

we still don't know more details. It felt like he

4:07

was just hanging outside of the road.

4:09

There was a welfare check. It wasn't like, you

4:11

know, they barged down his door. They brought him

4:13

in an interrogation room. You confess now. He

4:16

just seemingly confessed on his own, which

4:18

makes me wonder if it is that

4:20

guilt element. And we'll explore this a

4:22

little bit more, but in your experience,

4:24

have you ever seen anything like this

4:26

where somebody is picked up or somebody

4:28

walks into police headquarters and just admits

4:31

it, admits to something that nobody even thought

4:33

that they were a part of or something out of

4:35

left field? Have you ever seen anything like

4:37

that before? I have in

4:39

my 18 years. I have seen cases like

4:41

that happen. It is rare, but I do agree with

4:43

you. I think in this

4:45

case, he's not some hardened criminal. I think

4:47

he lashed out. He snapped, and

4:50

he's – that was weighing on him all this

4:52

time. And so fortunately for the cops that contacted

4:54

him, he decided not to lash out against them

4:56

to try to then get away. But you're right.

4:59

I mean, there's a lot of things that go into

5:01

these types of cases. As soon as this guy confesses

5:03

to killing this girl, the cops are obviously

5:05

probably taken off guard by that. But now that's a serious

5:08

accusation. So now you've got to take

5:10

this person back to the police department.

5:12

Now you're talking about, you know, reading this person their Miranda

5:14

rights. They have

5:16

the right to not self-incriminate themselves. And so

5:19

there's a lot of things that go

5:21

into that. And the mere fact

5:23

that someone just admits or confesses

5:25

to killing somebody does not

5:27

mean you get to just charge that person

5:29

with that particular crime. So in this case,

5:32

the officers have to go back and

5:35

really do an in-depth interview with this person.

5:37

And it mentions in the news that he

5:39

was able to give details about the crime

5:42

that was never released to the public. And

5:44

that's the key thing. And with these homicides,

5:46

especially if you're going to come across a

5:48

run into a cold case homicide, a

5:51

lot of times we as law enforcement

5:53

are not going to release all the

5:55

details about the particular crime. That

5:57

is something that we are going to hold to ourselves. for

6:00

an incident like this where we don't give

6:03

everything to the public because we don't want

6:05

everybody to know everything about the crime. Or

6:07

somebody to come out and say, hey, you know, I did

6:09

– I had a part in this because there are people

6:11

who are crazy and come out and say, yeah, I'm the

6:14

real killer. But

6:16

that's why you have this information. I agree with you

6:18

that it had to be something that only the killer

6:20

would have known. I want to explore a little bit

6:22

about this interview, though. So Beck does

6:24

this interview with Edmund Police, and according

6:26

to an affidavit, he goes into

6:29

this very graphic detail when he speaks

6:31

with detectives. He apparently known Kylie for

6:33

years. The two had worked together at

6:35

a Subway restaurant at one point in

6:37

time, and he tells

6:39

the detectives – or allegedly tells

6:42

the detectives that he was attracted

6:44

to Kylie, invited himself over to

6:46

her apartment in 2016 to possibly

6:48

sexually assault her. He claims he

6:50

made these kind of romantic

6:52

advances towards her. She

6:55

rejects him, tells him

6:57

to leave. He becomes angry. He

6:59

becomes violent. He said, quote, she

7:01

wasted his time, and that's when he killed

7:03

her, choked her to death, and even admits

7:06

pushing his knee on her neck

7:08

to make sure that she

7:11

was dead, which is so disturbing.

7:13

He's right now in custody at the Oklahoma County

7:15

Detention Center on a first-degree murder charge. So

7:18

again, it seems that these were things

7:20

that maybe investigators were looking into, and

7:23

they couldn't put the pieces of the puzzle, but

7:25

he might have just put those pieces of the puzzle together. I mean,

7:27

what do you make of his account of what happened? Yeah,

7:30

well, I do. It's extremely disturbing. And I

7:32

think a lot of times when you have

7:35

crimes like that, where you have a 16-year-old

7:37

girl murdered in an apartment, random

7:39

acts of violence like that happen – I think she was 19, though.

7:41

I think she was 19. No,

7:44

no, no. family

8:00

members or close friends. And

8:02

in this case, you have a coworker, their

8:04

friends, you wanted to try to have

8:06

some type of romantic relationship with her. She

8:09

rejects him. Now he's showing up at

8:11

her apartment and ends up committing this

8:13

heinous act of violence towards her. So

8:16

as a cop or a detective, when you're investigating

8:18

these types of crimes, that's where you

8:20

have to start is you wanna start with their most

8:22

inner circle and work from there.

8:26

In case in point, I'm sure that they probably

8:28

looked at this guy at some point during the

8:30

investigation. Unfortunately, just not able

8:32

to put all the puzzle pieces together

8:34

and now because it's eight years later,

8:37

you probably might have a whole different

8:39

team of investigators who now have to

8:41

interview this guy. They got to comb

8:43

through all of the evidence, read

8:45

all the reports. They have to go back

8:47

and dig through everything while this guy is

8:49

making this confession because once you book that

8:51

person in jail, you only have 72 hours

8:54

to get the moraine and you have to have your

8:56

evidence together for the district attorney

8:58

to even file those charges. And homicide,

9:00

it doesn't get any worse than that. So your

9:03

ducks have to be in a row. You're on

9:05

a very tight time window. All

9:07

of those things have to be done and

9:09

just the mere confession alone just wouldn't have

9:11

done it. So you need to

9:13

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9:16

detectives had to do an incredible amount of work to

9:18

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10:52

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10:54

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10:56

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that this interview was coerced or

11:00

he wasn't in his right mind when he

11:03

made it. There's always ways that defense attorneys

11:05

can make arguments about trying to get a

11:07

confession, either not admitted into court or during

11:09

a trial or trying to have a spin

11:11

on it or a narrative regarding it. But

11:13

here's the part that is really

11:17

disturbing is the way

11:19

that he allegedly killed her. And

11:21

I'm curious in your perspective, if he choked

11:23

her to death, A, does that

11:26

make it more difficult to track down who would

11:28

have done this? Is that one of the reasons

11:30

why this was a cold case, the manner in

11:32

which she was killed? And B,

11:34

does that tell you something that this

11:36

was a crime where he was enraged?

11:38

We talk about how stabbings are sometimes

11:40

very intimate, but choking someone to

11:42

death feels, I don't know, even maybe

11:45

more personal. So those two questions, you know,

11:47

what's that? What is your take on the

11:49

way that she was allegedly killed or

11:51

allegedly murdered? And also,

11:54

is that a reason why this was a cold case?

11:57

Yeah, so I don't think he had any intention

11:59

of… of really formulating a plan on

12:01

how he was actually gonna murder this girl. You

12:04

know, I've been to a lot of domestic

12:06

violence related deaths, and usually when you have

12:08

someone that's been choked, strangled, things

12:10

of that nature, it's generally a

12:13

close type of relationship like that

12:15

where it's very personal

12:17

for the person that's committing that

12:19

murder to choke that

12:21

individual. It's a personal connection. I

12:24

don't think he had any intentions of trying to even cover it

12:26

up. That would not really play

12:28

a big factor in trying to track down, and

12:31

you got touched DNA nowadays where just

12:34

you merely touching the individual, your DNA is gonna be

12:36

left on that person's, unless

12:38

you're wearing gloves or something of that sort. But

12:40

I highly doubt he has something that calculated to

12:43

try to get away from this crime. I think it

12:45

was a passion thing. I think he lashed out, and

12:49

it makes perfect sense knowing the

12:51

type of death that it was, and

12:54

the fact that he was trying to have some type

12:56

of romantic relationship with her, it all

12:58

adds up. I want your

13:00

perspective on this. So as I mentioned, Kylie

13:03

had known her alleged killer

13:05

for years, in fact in an interview with

13:07

News 9 in Oklahoma, Kylie's sister, Krista

13:10

Stanfield said, growing up

13:12

with Joseph, the alleged killer, he was

13:14

the nicest guy, he was the sweetest

13:16

guy, you would never think anything ill-mannered

13:18

from him, and to know this happened

13:20

and that he did this over something so

13:22

stupid, and get this, Stanfield

13:24

says that Beck had been reaching out

13:26

to her for years, saying he wanted

13:28

to meet up, talk to her, she

13:30

always ignored his messages, seems like a

13:33

great thing. The last time he

13:35

reached out was just last month. Johnny

13:37

Malloy, Kylie's father told News

13:39

9, the good Lord works

13:42

in mysterious ways, and he's haunted that man

13:44

every day, and I hope he continues to.

13:46

This man has taken so much from my

13:48

family, and I'm glad he's in jail, and

13:50

I want justice to be served, swift and

13:52

strict. Kyle, that connection is

13:54

so interesting, and him allegedly

13:56

trying to stay in touch with the

13:58

family is bizarre. Yeah,

14:01

I actually don't think that that's too far off

14:03

from the norm. You know, when you have someone

14:05

involved in a crime like this, you know, these

14:07

people want to stay connected to the family. They

14:10

want to know what's going on. You're like, what

14:12

are the police investigating? What have they been asking

14:14

the family? Does the family even think that

14:16

they're on to this person to allude to

14:19

the cops that this guy they think killed

14:21

their daughter? So you know, the fact

14:23

that he's reaching out to the family and

14:25

wanted to remain kind of close probably to

14:27

that investigation, you know, is actually something that happens

14:29

quite often with these people so that they can

14:31

stay in tune and in touch with what

14:34

is going on in this investigation. So I think that

14:36

has a little bit to do with it. Yeah,

14:38

I think that has a little bit to do with it.

14:40

And the fact that I think he had such an obsession

14:42

with her, you know, probably in his mind,

14:44

you know, thinking he's dating her and all these things,

14:46

and he's probably looking at her parents like, you

14:48

know, this is his girlfriend's family. She's dead.

14:51

So I think there's a little bit of combination of

14:53

both in his head, you know, his sick mind that

14:57

he was a part of her. He ends

14:59

up killing her. He wants to stay in

15:01

touch with the family and the cops to see, you

15:03

know, kind of where this investigation is going. So I

15:05

think that all kind of ties into his weird behavior.

15:08

That's a really good point to keep tabs on

15:10

because if he gets the sense that she's ignoring

15:13

him, the family's ignoring him, then he might think

15:15

he's a suspect. It also could be an endless

15:17

pure speculation if he had this attraction to, you

15:19

know, Jennifer with this an attraction that he had

15:22

towards the sister as well. I don't know, purely

15:24

speculating at this point, but I just think it's

15:26

something that has to be explored nonetheless. So I

15:28

should tell you that a judge has

15:30

set Beck's bond at $10 million. The

15:33

date for his next court appearance has not been

15:35

set yet, but it's also my understanding in Oklahoma,

15:38

you have the death penalty for first degree

15:40

murder too, which is something to consider. Real

15:42

quick before we sign off, I

15:44

mean, I know this is more of a legal

15:46

question, but do you think, and correct

15:48

me if I'm wrong, but I believe Oklahoma has a death

15:50

penalty. Do you think this is something, the kind of case

15:52

that prosecutors would move forward on and say

15:54

this is a death penalty eligible case? Oh,

15:57

absolutely. I think you have a 19

15:59

year old girl. You know, you've

16:01

got this guy who's obsessed with her, he

16:03

goes and he murders her in a horrendous

16:05

way. You know, I think they

16:08

probably will. And I think the defense is

16:10

probably going to be attacking. You

16:12

had mentioned earlier his statement, you

16:14

know, was it under Miranda? And I think that

16:17

that's going to be the defense's biggest argument is,

16:19

okay, this guy's confessed to it. He's

16:22

given great detail about how the crime was committed. So

16:24

that's that's there. But their only defense at this point

16:26

is going to be how did he give that confession?

16:28

Who did he give it to? Was

16:31

there more questioning after the fact after he

16:33

gave these statements from the cops? And

16:36

that's really going to get scrutinized. And so

16:39

as law enforcement, you know, you got to be

16:41

very cognizant of when you're talking to people and

16:43

asking questions and what are people telling you. So

16:46

I think that's going to be their biggest defense. But we'll

16:49

see where it goes from there. But the

16:51

death of this young woman is a tragedy.

16:54

In one sense, I hope he's telling the truth because it

16:56

would give the family some sense of closure. We'll

16:59

see what happens next and if he

17:01

ultimately pleads guilty. But listen,

17:03

Kyle, Kyle Schoberg, thanks so much for coming

17:05

on. Really appreciate it. You can check out

17:07

the podcast and on YouTube. Shots fired. Hope

17:10

everybody checks it out. Kyle, thanks so much. Thank

17:13

you. Appreciate it, Jesse. And

17:15

that's all we have for you here on

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