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Tv and Max. Futurama,

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genuinely on. I. Didn't.

2:04

Prepare. And I thought we were smoking weed for

2:06

the spot when I were going to bully him

2:08

just of make him lots of smoke weed and

2:10

will. And then we moved. It's a hearing, we're

2:12

not doing that anymore. So I smoked a bunch

2:14

of we before I came. I. Do. Have a

2:17

bag full of as Mike Tyson at a

2:19

boon for the road we've been collecting or

2:21

the was who two years. Yeah, that's the

2:23

size of the Mike By it's like I've

2:25

had those before so I guess I should

2:28

say that I have collected with seems to

2:30

be Worth Media's largest collection of Athlete branded

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we'd sizes and a tease for an episode

2:34

that we were going to do today until

2:36

I learned. Recently that

2:39

we can't do it. Even

2:41

though I think we should and

2:43

will do what about eventually? Yes,

2:45

because the summer with. Absolutely

2:47

so that's this summer all of this

2:49

will be consumed summer But in the

2:51

meantime I want to explain why we

2:54

can't do it and that is and

2:56

that is of taking those are extended

2:58

break from smoking and and consuming marijuana.

3:01

Be flapping along with into a bunch of

3:03

edible food orders as I've gotten like why

3:05

are we applauding this and I want to

3:07

hear that out I wanna hear they were

3:09

a smile on for him a regal now

3:11

so it's only for Dorks. Were

3:14

like that would? it was actually

3:16

worth the risk and or of

3:18

north in a nurse not like

3:20

this. It had done it. I've

3:22

I've been consistently getting high. Almost.

3:25

Daily since I was fifteen and I'm

3:27

about to turn forty ones with twenty

3:29

six years of. are

3:32

daunting my brain and

3:34

residences And ah, what's.

3:36

The longest break you went on in Anaheim. Five

3:38

days athletic and on a day

3:41

fourteen right now? Mom. And.

3:43

You know quest? Yeah I mean I'm in

3:45

therapy Abedin therapy for thirteen years In there

3:47

becomes is moment I quit drinking Eleven years

3:49

ago and when I quit drinking their became

3:52

this moment where it it felt like it

3:54

didn't serve me anymore. Started.

3:57

Feel like it was hold me back and these are

3:59

feelings that any out. We'll tell you that

4:01

when you're conscious of it, you feel

4:03

like. All am

4:05

I know I need to stop it. I don't

4:07

want to. It's like being in a toxic relationship.

4:10

You like it feels good. but there's a lot

4:12

of bad and I'm ignoring the bad because I

4:14

still like to go to little bit but I

4:16

know in my soul I need to get out

4:18

of it. And you convince

4:21

yourself. I'm. I'm fine. I'm fine.

4:23

I'm fine. So when I started to in therapy.

4:26

Or several on problems in my therapist like

4:28

we're not all economic. I'm not an alcoholic

4:30

and his party sorry I can sorry on

4:32

such a blast. she's a girl. I know

4:34

people say that all the time written that

4:36

line on a poster. what would you sell

4:38

us is different for me. He has noted

4:40

on and on built Difference so I remember

4:43

when I was quitting drinking specifically my there

4:45

I was like you know I drink but

4:47

I'm not my dad. my dad was an

4:49

alcoholic on on out on my services. point

4:51

blank of know you been Zach like you

4:53

that you're drinking and you're not taking ownership.

4:55

Of it, you're using it as an excuse,

4:58

you easy, and you're using it as a

5:00

crutch and as like, no, that's not true

5:02

And then I quit drinking and I realized

5:04

he was right and I have no want

5:06

or need to go back to drinking. It's

5:08

very few and far between with how much.

5:11

Non alcoholic beer has progressed in

5:13

the last seven years is. The

5:16

one thing I miss was having a beer to baseball games.

5:18

Are used to love to go to

5:20

a Met game and have a giant

5:23

beer and and seven more. Ah but

5:25

that first beer was always like this

5:27

is unbelievable and what about it though

5:29

Just explain to baseball's a beer drinking

5:31

spoil Yes you like watch we go

5:33

to the park for baseball You on

5:35

a hot dog and a beer. You

5:37

want to sit there. it's a relaxed

5:39

environment, you're just kind of show and

5:41

I loved a summer day. Or

5:43

a beer and watch and again. yeah and

5:45

when I quit drinking there was a lot

5:47

of things I miss. I miss the getting.parts

5:49

but I missed like I went to a

5:51

Met game as like this is the biggest

5:53

each I've ever had is a want to

5:55

be or but now known alcoholics or so

5:57

good that I can have a Heineken Zero.

6:00

I can have an athletic and be like

6:02

those feel like I'm drinking is a ritual

6:04

gets to be simulated scratches the it's I've

6:06

been smoking weed.whole time but i like doubled

6:08

down on the i was going to ask

6:10

what's the substitution effect when you can do

6:12

the cigarettes and we'd as our smoking cigarettes

6:14

but then I quit cigarettes six months later

6:16

so all I was left with was we'd

6:19

so that got ratcheted up. Quadruple

6:21

How ago? This? Eleven years ago.

6:24

Okay, so. What Did You quit? Cigarettes Eleven

6:26

years? Yeah, I quit smoking a

6:28

good drinking in March of two thousand

6:30

and Thirteen and I quit cigarettes. June

6:32

Bride for my thirtieth birthday, so I

6:35

didn't want to don't Am I thirty

6:37

smoking cigarettes? So I quit June twenty

6:39

third. Two. Thousand and. Two. Even remember the

6:42

year and you remember the. Day. I remember the

6:44

day because on the cigarettes still the

6:46

Us and I was going to ask

6:48

about it. So hardest thing the clarets

6:50

partisan request for me that I know

6:52

other people have different feelings. I miss

6:54

cigarettes daily. Trading. I talk about

6:56

at all times she quit cigarettes. She's actually she's

6:58

not gonna brag about this. We're very proud of

7:00

her shoes on Nicorette gum and minced and in

7:03

quit in January. And she's but as of September

7:05

to November Fourth, there you go. See you remember

7:07

the day. Is only because this is Christmas Eve

7:09

and we were on a road trip and then

7:11

like two days later were sleeping in our car

7:13

and else I could really go for yet another.

7:15

She had a job right now. I still have.

7:17

One. The Enemy and she never used it

7:19

and I was very impressive. She quit nicotine

7:21

nicotine in the. Lamest thing to have to quit

7:24

is a little candies. you put your mouse every.

7:27

Little realize that is a romantic two wheeler,

7:29

others a rigid yeah. Well that's what I replaced

7:31

him with Pablo. Thank you. Shudder to the where there's some

7:33

the the new and all different flavor. By the way

7:35

says walk him through bags not more. I went

7:37

out and put down or I were in March.

7:39

There were were those rappers everywhere. On.

8:00

The question of the edge off and

8:02

that of fact is that will you

8:04

miss to be specific about like what

8:06

cigarette a garage or mean they're coups.

8:09

I miss going outside. I missed the first. still

8:11

have some around yeah sorry but still sound

8:13

when the light hits the paper. A really good

8:16

at first poll that like and in the

8:18

woods go against. The.

8:20

African I don't. Do it it's a running start,

8:22

this is the thing that I'm like, don't start,

8:24

yeah, I'm like, let us talk about missing and

8:26

the when we. After a lotta young kids

8:28

are getting dozens and they're getting into

8:30

stuff I think, just go straight to

8:32

they bring or straight to Zooms. You're

8:35

missing the coolest part yes, which is

8:37

more at Emory and Dipping. It's like.

8:40

When with a smoking bar I get because I've seen

8:42

movies. Yeah yeah. like I want to look like that.

8:44

Didn't really bring what stripping can be pretty good. I

8:47

have a lot of friends that are. Assessing attack

8:49

and let it says this does it does

8:51

your breath away as and carry around us

8:53

as a bartender like I am down into

8:55

lines as a clear people's like state. The

8:58

abrupt anyone that adept watching this goes

9:00

i get a donor like I mean

9:02

down emergency my was this guy is

9:04

assist or did it that optimistic because

9:06

our our member who pick me up

9:08

in queens in his pocket lip and

9:10

i've been waiting to get out the

9:12

smoking cigarettes i miss sick cigarettes but

9:14

when i quit cigarettes. I

9:16

found a to talk to me and

9:18

it fills. The same age as of they see

9:20

a lot of the I member they say. That.

9:23

A lot of it's the physical act, so they'll say like

9:25

cut to at like cut a straw real sort. Of each one

9:27

of the way said the and. Just like do that

9:29

like Dominoes suggests. They said I dined

9:31

on you hampered me Replay Smoking with

9:33

smoke yeah with with coolers was yes

9:36

and. I. Just always loved.

9:38

We'd like. since Thomas fifteen, it's

9:40

like getting high. Alert. You

9:42

know as two or three for you but you

9:44

from Colorado gear which it was illegal to twenty

9:47

fourteen so what's the A deer? remember what I

9:49

do. This is where we talked about first time

9:51

he smoked weed I guess below and cause for

9:53

depends on what kind of weeds out with us

9:55

Mozilla his wag. When I was in like.

9:58

that's little button the most people smoking. oh

10:00

I believe was slated for hims. Yes, exactly.

10:02

It's the garbage. as he

10:04

really like that because the the high

10:07

from swagger is. Very

10:09

red eyes, very hungry, very

10:11

giggly. A crass your lights

10:13

is and in the first

10:16

time I smoked. Chronic.

10:18

Is what we called it back

10:20

when I was a child. So forty

10:22

years ago. Arts. Twenty six years ago.

10:25

stay on the joke and shut out

10:27

Bryant and Bombs God or he rolled

10:29

up one of a We're we're

10:31

this girl. Embers, house parties like oh,

10:34

did I got Chronic. And it was.

10:36

I remember the day because it was

10:38

a year to the day my dad

10:41

died last December. Twelve, Ninety Ninety Eight.

10:43

And I mean Brian smoked a blunt

10:45

of Chronic that he got from

10:47

Boulder. Boulder, Colorado had incredible we'd stuff

10:50

was the light green with the

10:52

red hairs know six know seeds and

10:54

he rolled it and we smoked

10:56

in his backyard and I got. The.

10:59

Greatest I have ever had in my

11:01

life. I was laughing my ass off.

11:03

I was wearing a Mountain Dew box

11:05

as a hat. sort of. On.

11:09

A separate attacks house. I slept

11:12

exact house and. I'm

11:14

told the story before but I was

11:16

so high that the next morning i

11:18

to we'd hang over which is that

11:20

was degree and hungry and I went

11:23

home and my mom's boyfriend Joe was

11:25

watching you. Cons: women basketball. And

11:28

I was like was like and in the mornings and

11:30

I was like. Which. Order Pizza

11:32

Hut. Use like what and I

11:34

was like we should get one of those

11:36

they cannot the Brooklyn Xl pizza and I

11:38

was like risk in Brooklyn so pizza like

11:40

of humor one of those as using. Know.

11:44

And I kept doing nothing alike. Come on

11:46

jobs are trying to get a bonding moments

11:48

of use out of like of a lot

11:50

more. If you to go like a you

11:52

know if you a judo oriental would want

11:54

us to do you do a digital it's

11:56

good good It's Chino supply of a lot

11:58

of. And

12:00

he shot it down and I are

12:02

going in. My son just suck. It.

12:05

Just became like oh, Like.

12:07

It's it's like going from drinking

12:10

ah, three dollar vodka to the

12:12

first time you try like good

12:14

liquor, Regal like oh, this is

12:16

like a different category. Yeah, like

12:18

I like this. So then it

12:21

just became. Who. Can get

12:23

chronic but smoke balls and then

12:25

it got outta control. Like hydrant.

12:27

That means. Gravity. Bong Hits

12:29

We're we're doing Shot Guy, Are you

12:31

making a gravity bong a death of?

12:34

absolutely. I agree on it and Zola

12:36

failure. Rate: This is during the developmental

12:38

years of your brain Pm. Or whatever.

12:40

dude. It worked.

12:42

It was weird take a gallon of milk and

12:44

then we'd cut off the bottom or then with

12:46

the top we would use aluminum foil, the mailbox

12:49

more than at the airport, the holes in it

12:51

and then we put the ball and then we

12:53

put it in like this are as it was

12:55

a kid, he boxers over there. Are

12:59

going to be open a similar toy limited

13:01

to two? Now we're not, even though you

13:03

didn't realize it will bull and we watched

13:05

it out as we knew what it was.

13:07

so we put water in as a blitz

13:09

rabbit. Of a pitcher out our house going to

13:11

be take your gravity bong hits a we would.

13:14

Just. Give rift and we were just

13:16

finding ways to give up. And. Then

13:18

it became ah of whatever money you made your

13:20

job. Can I go get in a it's I

13:22

who had aids sonos Devon I think he's in

13:25

prison renounce but Devin have as the apartment complex

13:27

my my house others that in prison for weed

13:29

not tickets mighty murder satellites I know that lot

13:31

as a to projecting that were dead to the

13:33

thing that Sammy Sosa did when he hit a

13:36

home run to death and who might be in

13:38

jail. shudder devon do i know

13:40

you're on the inside but we're on the

13:42

outside live in for him as we are

13:44

senior year we voted him most likely to

13:46

brighten your day in the school changed it

13:49

because they found out who are now zero

13:51

i know we're not giving the to a

13:53

drug dealer really not enough but he are

13:55

most likely he was the most likely the

13:57

right us so we just became kind of

13:59

like i didn't know dad I had died

14:01

of cirrhosis, so I kind of saw what

14:03

alcohol did. So I was like, well, this

14:06

ain't booze. Not knowing I had

14:08

an addict's brain and just being like, well, I'm just

14:10

smoking weed. I just became like

14:12

a huge pothead and I just like loved smoking

14:14

weed and I stayed loved smoking weed up until

14:16

14 days ago. But

14:18

the question of like, what does being

14:21

a huge pothead actually

14:23

entail for people who aren't huge potheads and want

14:25

to like visualize that? I'll give you this example.

14:27

When you go to the doctor, they

14:30

ask you how many drinks you have a week. That's

14:32

the thing that you do. No one ever, I remember never

14:34

telling the truth. Never one tells the truth. I didn't go the

14:37

lowest, but I went to the middle one, even though

14:39

I knew that I was probably like the third or

14:41

the one that said four more. I

14:43

feel like I did the like three to six a week.

14:45

Yeah, I'm on the Mediterranean diet. I think I

14:47

can just drink a glass of red wine. I

14:50

have a couple of grubs. I remember I was

14:52

drinking 16 drinks a night. Oh my God, oh

14:55

my God, you're such a tall tree. I would

14:57

do eight beers and eight shots. That's right, because

14:59

I'd do a shot and a beer, which Nate

15:01

Parchetti always would be like, if you eliminate shots,

15:03

you're all right. And I was like, I don't

15:05

know if that's true. I still think I'm drinking

15:07

eight beers, but I used to do a shot

15:09

of Jameson with a blood back, blood

15:11

heavy. That's funny,

15:13

I did not know that because he had quit drinking

15:15

by the time we met. But like, that's the guy

15:17

I'm gonna marry. That's what he would have

15:20

been. And then when I got a little money, the

15:22

guy in the time capsule is your husband. But ask

15:24

anybody and they knew. That's the guy I would have

15:26

picked. A shot of

15:28

Jameson with a blood heavy. And then a couple of camel

15:30

lights in between right now. I mean, my true love,

15:33

that's my soulmate. This is all making sense. So

15:35

finally I said that to a doctor. I go, I don't

15:38

know, I'd do like eight beers, eight shots a night. And

15:40

the doctor was like, Jesus Christ. Like

15:42

complete professionalism out the window. They're

15:45

like, I gotta make a call real quick. I think he went

15:47

like, God, all right. No,

15:50

no, don't do that. So

15:52

what I said to my therapist when we were talking about quitting, I

15:54

said, that was my Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000

15:56

hours. I'm like

15:59

an expert at getting. out of my

16:01

tits. I'm so good at

16:03

getting f**ked up. I can like

16:05

if someone was too high call me

16:08

like Winston the wolf. Like I can walk

16:10

I've walked her back a couple times. Okay

16:12

so let's explain this. What makes Dan Soder

16:14

good as this? Why am I good at

16:16

it? Because he's been up there. And what's it like when he

16:18

is guiding you? He knows where the exits are. So

16:21

he knows how to get you to the I

16:23

mean I go. Do you remember during

16:25

the pandemic? Which one? Uh

16:27

the godweed. The god nug.

16:29

The one that made me think that

16:32

we already knew. Okay the Orson Welles one.

16:34

I don't even know if I can speak

16:36

about. I don't even remember. I just remember

16:38

the only part I remember is that we

16:40

were watching we got high. Very high. Very

16:42

high. And we were watching remember when Orson

16:44

Welles, I'm gonna f**k this up, released he

16:46

released like two movies at the same time

16:48

and one was a movie of like. Citizen

16:51

Kane. No. It but it

16:53

was like and then the other was a documentary

16:55

about the making of that movie or something. I

16:57

feel like I heard about it from Ride Home.

16:59

And so I felt like it was going to

17:01

be like an artsy endeavor for me. It was

17:03

like the most recent release. They put out this

17:05

like Orson Welles something. Okay we

17:07

were very high. Either way we're watching. That's your memory.

17:09

And I'm already going into this going is this

17:11

the movie or is this the documentary about the

17:14

movie? Which when I'm high is exactly what f**ked

17:16

me up. It's the concept of some I'm playing

17:18

a video game or someone's playing a video game

17:20

and I'm being played by them. And the thing

17:22

inside the thing when I'm high makes me go

17:24

well what is and what thing am I inside?

17:26

And let me explain to you as a

17:28

sherpa. Yes. The ground has been moved from

17:30

under her. Right. So then there is a

17:32

mental freefall. Right. The mental freefall is when

17:34

you have to grab someone and pull them

17:36

back up. Well the Reason that it was

17:38

a thing that triggered it was Orson Welles

17:41

is doing the voiceover of this documentary. And

17:43

In it he's saying things he's saying and

17:45

now pay close attention here. And It's like

17:47

a clip from an old movie, but then

17:49

it would go into people talking. But If

17:51

I close my eyes, my voice just heard

17:54

like one continuous audio stream and it sounded

17:56

like the clips that Orson Welles was using

17:58

in the movie were narrating this. Documentary.

18:00

So then I was like. Though

18:02

not the a horse and was talking directly to

18:04

us Year when it gets it's name is Rewind.

18:06

And dance like it's what you're saying is happening,

18:09

isn't happening. Are you feeling okay? And then I

18:11

went. I. Don't know where am I to and

18:13

that I just dropped to the ground and he was like.

18:15

All right yourself away and that's where you

18:17

are. like Usaf and yourself on the mountain.

18:19

There you go. You didn't open linebacker, he

18:21

opened or non aligned our daughter water. Opens

18:24

the sliding door but a glass of water

18:26

next to me. Cold wind and water

18:28

harmed myrtle. Down to Myrtle? Gone. What's going

18:30

on? Mom's. You're looking for a non blondes

18:32

freaking out dogs. Understand this. Dogs know

18:34

when your spirit and. Know that's

18:36

why they're great companions still. Do. This thing where

18:39

if I give her a like the right lutz said i'm not

18:41

conscious of still come over to start licking my hand to be

18:43

like come Back Down. To Earth is the only one

18:45

is a resounding no. Well, yes, Myrtle. try to

18:47

tell people. Laugh

18:49

at his last. It's to me that

18:52

a well that's exactly what emailed it's

18:54

and his bed around super high people

18:56

whether be mushrooms whether a be received

18:58

or acids you understand that you need

19:00

to tether them back to the years.

19:02

Yes, you just need to go arrive

19:05

what your feelings as I what you're

19:07

hearing. This was the best advice I

19:09

ever received and I I I don't

19:11

know if this man is alive or

19:13

dead. Prez a guy we used

19:15

by mushrooms offers and he always he

19:17

always said. Before. You'd

19:19

strip right on your hand I

19:21

I'm tripping. It's okay, smart and reason

19:24

that you from before so that

19:26

gives him a round meant oh so

19:28

you're human ancestor so that when it's

19:31

and I dared been some muslim

19:33

rothys him here is I was. You're

19:37

right, Guys are

19:39

but I'm sipping are always remember i i'm

19:41

tripping it's okay guy like you'd looking dog

19:43

or cat got it it. So this too

19:45

shall pass you for an intellectually get them

19:47

to buy into. That is this too shall.

19:49

Pass. That's all you need. Understand is that

19:51

it will come back And you will. And

19:53

that's like a plane with Give it a

19:55

little bit, find your floating right now. you're

19:57

going to come back down. It's to a.

20:00

Willie Wonka burp Yeah but yeah and

20:02

you come back to what loses you

20:04

is your up there and you go.

20:06

I'm never going to come back down

20:08

again. You fly higher. Yeah you do

20:10

go As the part that my experience

20:12

the worst I ever felt. With.

20:15

With weed was eating the smallest part of

20:17

a brownie that a friend had told me

20:19

like animals do something different the early ordered

20:21

of second. Unreadable waves. And

20:23

it was the feeling of oh no they

20:25

put clearly based on how I feel something

20:28

other than we'd in bed at within an

20:30

hour later on the ground. Yeah yeah, we

20:32

I likely free floating through space the i'm

20:34

hoping we'd a swimming pool. edibles are swimming

20:37

in the ocean. Guess. It's

20:39

Peterson Mossy where the sure

20:41

if there's a riptide. One

20:57

of them moments I knew I had to quit

20:59

drinking was ah I read I used to. I

21:01

used to work a lot in the city, I

21:03

was on the road a lot and I was

21:05

working at the Comedy Cellar and I would do

21:07

like for five spots on the night and I

21:09

would go to a bar called Three Owners in

21:11

the West Village was right around the corner from

21:13

Sellers and I do some day and drink. this

21:15

is I didn't want to do day and drinking

21:17

at the seller to the they want them dawn

21:20

This new guys getting to Harvard not as civilians.

21:22

Do besides you smarter than it could have been.

21:24

I. Mean I was. I was born in the

21:26

darkness molded by ear I knew where to go

21:28

to to gets with and one night I came

21:30

back for a late show and I was to

21:32

stop and I literally felt like I had swam

21:35

too far away from the beach and and that

21:37

was the feeling a hat on stage was. I

21:39

can't control my words, I can't control my thoughts

21:41

and then the next morning I woke up and

21:44

as one does hung over I felt ashamed, I

21:46

felt anxious and I was like man if I

21:48

want to be a comic stick up for the

21:50

rest of my life I gotta change because I'm

21:53

to For I was to. For on stage

21:55

last nights at a place that I have.

21:58

dreamt about working since I

22:00

was 17. So I need

22:03

to cut drinking. But weed

22:05

was always there, baby. And I

22:07

would always and I love weed. I

22:09

still do, you know, but it got

22:11

to a point where I, you know,

22:14

I just released a special in March.

22:17

Yeah. Double now on YouTube. Really, thanks.

22:19

It's called On the Road. In

22:21

1997, the United States enacted the Deadbeat

22:23

Dad Law, which meant if

22:25

you didn't pay child support, you were

22:27

going to jail. My dad died

22:29

in 1997. I'm

22:39

in the process of building and I just, uh,

22:41

I just felt like, man, I need

22:44

to get better. I need to

22:46

get better. And I think that's always a step. Someone

22:48

feels professionally where you're like, what can I do? How

22:50

can I, I want every

22:53

step to be an improvement. Even if it

22:55

can't be, I want to try to improve.

22:57

So your comedy, your craft was

22:59

the reason. It's just around, you know, I

23:01

don't want to go lebucard and talk about

23:03

art and the artist and all

23:08

that. But in terms of just, you love

23:11

comedy and I want to be very good at it. I

23:13

want to be the best that I can be. If I

23:15

get old and I, and I'm like, Oh, I could have

23:17

done this. I'll beat the,

23:19

I'll beat my, I'm very good at beating

23:21

myself up as she knows. That's the only

23:23

domestic violence in our house. In my brain.

23:25

But I, I just like, I'm just like,

23:28

I want to be as good as I

23:30

can be. I had the

23:32

same feeling with weed that I was having about

23:34

alcohol all those years. I was going to say,

23:36

you've identified now like being on

23:38

stage with alcohol as the turning point

23:40

in this too, seemingly being getting words.

23:42

I was forgetting trains of thought. I

23:44

was forgetting like, where am I going

23:46

with this? And I'm already kind of

23:48

dumb. So like it was making me

23:50

dumber. And I just kind of felt

23:52

like, all right, well,

23:55

let's try. Let's just like, uh, and I

23:57

had the same talk, same therapist, you know,

23:59

and he. he said, what about

24:01

quitting weed? And what it

24:03

was specifically was, I have a lot of anger

24:05

and a lot of stuff that

24:10

I haven't worked on from the death

24:12

of my father and my sister. Because

24:14

after my dad died, that

24:17

December 12th, 1998, I started smoking weed. My

24:20

sister was killed in the car accident on October 29th, 1999. And

24:24

so I go through that and I'm

24:26

just getting more f***ed up and then I

24:28

lose my aunt in 2007 that I was close

24:30

to and I'm just getting more f***ed up and just people

24:32

I knew were dying and I was just getting

24:35

like, well f*** it. Like,

24:37

I'm good at this. Did it feel like

24:39

self-medicating? Yeah, 100%. Like you were

24:41

aware that that's what was happening. No, but

24:43

I kinda did. It made

24:45

you feel better enough. Yeah, I made me feel great. F***ing

24:48

great. But then, you know, I was talking

24:50

to my old roommate, Vecchione, about this today

24:52

at breakfast, where I

24:54

kinda had this false, this like

24:57

fake persona of like, I'm

24:59

a chill weed guy. But then I'd

25:01

lose in a video game and f***ing

25:03

explode. And then we had to get a new table. Shout out

25:05

to IKEA. It was from IKEA, so like they are easy

25:07

to break in. Well, I just wanna let you know. It did break.

25:10

Down and in. Down and in. I

25:13

f***ing cleared that thing. I lost a rocket. I

25:17

was gonna say, I believe we missed that one. This

25:19

was rocket league. It was rocket league. Dude, that was

25:21

my- Rocket league. Give me my black belt.

25:23

The gun was out too. Aaah!

25:25

I f***ing shattered that motherf***er.

25:28

And then she heard it on the chat. I

25:31

go, what was that? And

25:33

I'm immediately ashamed. But

25:36

I just wasn't tied to my emotions.

25:38

I just kinda felt like, oh,

25:41

this is self-medicating. And when you start realizing that,

25:43

you go, what if

25:45

I take the medication off? Like, what if we, you

25:47

know, I talked to my therapist and my therapist was

25:49

like, maybe you're using this as a crutch. Maybe you

25:51

need to feel things. Katie was in LA doing

25:54

work for a week. And I

25:56

looked online and they said, you know, withdrawal

26:00

symptoms usually last about seven days. And

26:03

I did the math. That was where I was like, let's

26:06

chill for a couple months. That's wild to me, if

26:09

I may, because I was like, wouldn't

26:12

you want me to, I would love

26:14

to be there to help you through whatever withdrawal symptoms

26:16

you're experiencing. You

26:18

don't have to hide. I know I didn't have

26:21

to hide it, but I didn't want to inconvenience her.

26:23

They wouldn't have. I'm so busy, let me tell you.

26:25

But one of the things is like, I didn't sleep.

26:27

I didn't sleep the first week. I

26:29

just was like, you don't sleep. Cause

26:32

I'm getting sedated. I

26:34

just had a physical like two months ago and my

26:36

doctor was like, all right, marijuana use. I was like

26:38

daily. And he's like, how much? And I lied like

26:40

we do about our drinks. I was like, yeah, once

26:42

a day. But I was like, I

26:44

smoke when I wake up. I would

26:46

smoke before the shower. And then

26:48

that's just how I start my day. And

26:50

then throughout the day, I just keep smoking.

26:52

And then at night it was like, bong

26:54

hits edibles. Let's go. Before

26:56

you go to sleep, you'd take at least an edible. 25

27:00

milligrams at least after

27:02

smoking all day. That's just a date mate. That

27:04

would sedate. I would be, you talk about losing

27:06

the ground. I'm sleeping through the night. So

27:09

not even really kind of, but something that

27:11

I want to know from Katie's perspective about

27:13

all of this is to what extent did

27:15

Dan seem stoned versus also being functional, which

27:17

is a, let me tell you something about

27:19

the sodas. We hide getting up

27:21

very well. Yeah. Dan never really

27:24

comes into the other room and says he's freaking

27:26

out. But the next day Dan will

27:28

go, I freaked out a little last night. And

27:30

I'm like, where was I? He

27:32

doesn't go through it out loud. He goes through

27:34

it all inside. He's flunking through his shirt. Which

27:36

I'm like, then I immediately think of all the times

27:39

I've been on the ground needing him to fan my

27:41

sweaty back because I don't know where I

27:43

am. He wants the Sherpa and Dan is

27:45

out there soloing. And then I

27:47

feel like a monster because I'm like, I was in the

27:49

other room just goofing off, probably getting frustrated at you

27:51

because we're in the chat and you're not responding. And

27:54

I'm like, are you on your phone? Where are you

27:56

answering us? You guys play video games

27:58

from different rooms. Yeah. headset

28:00

with other people we're not just like on headset

28:02

with each other in the same apartment yeah in the same

28:04

whatever sometimes um should I be more ashamed when

28:06

I say no no no I just want people to understand

28:08

what whatever man yeah so anyway he goes through

28:11

it um kind of alone um

28:13

and yeah as one does no I

28:15

know uh but it's so it's I don't always

28:18

know so it's but I can't that's only

28:20

child syndrome there's I'll notice when he's when he

28:22

gets really really I mean he'll usually come out and

28:24

go like I'm gonna get scary high tonight it's

28:27

literally my words I'm gonna go I'm gonna get

28:29

scared he's like what if I was thinking what

28:32

if you know that weed that we've stopped smoking

28:34

because you're so afraid of it what if

28:36

I uh put that into a bong and

28:38

I just do binger bongers um and I'm

28:40

gonna I'm gonna get going and I was

28:42

like why do you aspire to get so

28:44

scared isn't that the bad part why are

28:46

you chasing the bad part I'd sit there with

28:48

a full bat just to these

28:51

you know and a lot of my friends

28:53

we get high like that is just kind

28:55

of just everybody I've ever been friends with

28:57

that's just what we do you know before

28:59

the bonfire we'd f***ing rip like Keith dipped

29:01

this f***ing ch some

29:21

of us just like to take a little edge off with

29:23

the question of like walking around

29:25

the world and being functional enough while

29:28

also overcome is it does it feel

29:30

like I am overcoming the thing

29:33

that is making me stoned

29:35

does it feel like there is a challenge

29:37

or I think you enjoy about like I

29:39

can do something that they can't I

29:41

think I have a lot of anger in me that I've never dealt with

29:43

and I think I have a lot of frustration

29:45

in me that I haven't dealt with like

29:47

health like in a healthy way like actually

29:49

worked through it and I think weed was

29:51

like dude put it up on the side

29:54

I also I feel like

29:56

you you have a constant running I don't know

29:58

because I'm not in there but You've

30:00

got an inner monologue of anxiety

30:02

that you've, it's like a hum that has

30:04

been humming for so long that you've kind

30:07

of learned to just like, fish

30:09

it in the back, but when you smoke weed, it

30:11

goes further in the back. So you can really not

30:13

even tell that it's... It's putting on noise

30:15

canceling headphones. Yeah. It's like, I

30:17

get high, I put on those noise canceling headphones, and I'm

30:19

like, just walking around.

30:21

And what's crazy is, since I've

30:24

stopped smoking in the past two weeks, my

30:26

anxiety levels have dropped. Yeah. I

30:28

don't have any anxiety. I

30:30

get anxiety in certain situations that cause

30:32

anxiety, but I'm not anxious.

30:35

You know, I don't think I'm done smoking weed.

30:38

I think I'm done drinking for sure. I

30:40

don't want to go back to drinking. I don't want

30:43

to become that person again. Cigarettes, God only knows. But

30:46

weed, I just need a break. I just needed

30:49

like, let me get two months. And by the

30:51

way, I talked to friends that

30:54

are huge potheads and they go, well, yeah, you got

30:56

to take a break. And I go, you guys want

30:58

to take a break? I'm gonna do

31:00

that twice a week. When I told Katie immediately, we were

31:02

in LA, getting dinner and she told me about this, she

31:04

broke the news to me that we couldn't do our athlete.

31:06

Which we will do. We will do, again, we're going to

31:08

do it. Trust me. And if we

31:10

don't, it's okay. Yeah, but I don't care. When

31:12

you're a Hall of Famer, you got them all. But

31:16

what I told her immediately was, and

31:18

again, forgive me for not being the best

31:20

advice giver, given that you are currently trying

31:23

to stay in the state that you're in.

31:25

I was like, but when you do return

31:27

to it, it's going

31:29

to be incredible. Well, that's kind

31:31

of where I want to get. I want to

31:33

turn it. Like when I don't smoke

31:35

weed for a while, I come back and I'm like, oh,

31:38

this is why I fell in love with them. Well, that's

31:40

what I want. I want it to be a treat. I

31:42

want it to be a cake. I

31:44

don't want it to be a daily vitamin. I want

31:46

it to be cake. I want it to be like,

31:48

hey, dude, let's have some cake. And then you're like,

31:50

oh, you get that excitement of like, yeah, dude, I

31:53

can have some cake right now. The way I was

31:55

smoking, I needed to do it before I left the

31:57

house. And Katie will tell you that she'd be like,

31:59

Hey, I'm like, all right, hold on. And then the

32:01

window would open and I'd fucking. You know, or I

32:04

did. I had my one hitter on me, like an

32:06

ankle gun. I just kept that saying on me. I

32:08

would just be like, oh cool. Just walk in and

32:10

be like, and then you're like, man, and it just

32:12

like, dude, I don't have anything against weed.

32:15

This isn't a thing where I'm like, and now

32:17

I found Christ. And I, I love weed. This

32:20

is me. Yeah. This is me. Just let

32:23

me get out the pool and dry off. This

32:25

many years consecutively, you had nothing to

32:27

justify to anybody. Your brain has not

32:29

had a second to go. Maybe we

32:31

should build some neural pathways sober.

32:33

Maybe we should have a thought

32:36

process function soberly through your brain.

32:38

I had bathtub fingers and I just want my fingers

32:40

to go back. Yeah. You've been, you've had wrinkles. I

32:43

just, let me get out of the water for a little while.

32:59

I've said it to friends of mine who

33:01

have had real problems with addiction, like real,

33:03

real bad problems. People, friends of mine that

33:05

have relapsed, other friends of mine that have

33:08

gotten through it. And they, the

33:10

friends of my life, I've seen a

33:13

reaction from people where you

33:15

have people in your life that you trust,

33:17

that you love and you trust. And when

33:19

it's a consensus, you go, I'm going the

33:21

right way. And enough people have

33:23

gone like, all right. Like Zeki on this

33:25

morning at breakfast, he didn't know. And I

33:27

told him, he's like, fuck yeah, dude. All

33:29

right. I'm excited to see this. You know,

33:31

Bar-getsy was like, all right buddy, here we

33:33

go. You know, like let's go. And

33:36

Katie immediately understood. She went, yeah, yeah, yeah,

33:38

take a break. And by the way, I'm not

33:40

mad at her for smoking weed. She smokes weed

33:42

before I play rock. I was going to ask what to say. I

33:45

also don't have any alcohol in the house. So like I'm

33:47

already, I feel like I'm doing my part. And since you're

33:49

just taking a break from this one and we have all

33:51

that weed, it's not going to smoke itself. We have a

33:53

lot of weed. And so I, especially today, I felt I

33:55

had a duty to stay

33:57

true to the confidence. But you know, what's

33:59

funny is. I don't, I'm like, dude, cook it high. Well, so

34:01

I was gonna ask, I do it in a different room.

34:04

Yeah, she was respectful, but I was joking around. And you can't

34:06

smell, so it doesn't really. Yeah, I have no

34:09

sense of smell, so I'm like, dude, go f***ing rip it. I

34:11

don't, I don't, I'm gonna hang out with

34:13

my friends to smoke weed and I'm probably gonna watch them smoke

34:15

weed. And I'm like, dude, that's great. My

34:17

dad's family is all addicts. I

34:19

mean, top to bottom, you know,

34:21

and they're all dead. And it's

34:24

me and my cousin, and we're kinda like, damn,

34:26

everyone was f***ed up. And it's

34:28

like, oh, we, our family, my dad's family normalized

34:30

it. Like, this is what we do. We get

34:32

f***ed up, we're good at getting f***ed up, and

34:34

we are, we're very good at getting f***ed up.

34:36

But time to take a break. I'm

34:39

in my 40s now. I just kinda don't wanna be.

34:42

I'm not yet, I just. I just kinda don't

34:44

wanna be an old stoner. I kinda wanna have

34:46

my wits about me as I get older. So

34:48

whatever I have to do, I've been doing it

34:51

consistently for 26 years. 26 years?

34:53

Yeah, I don't remember most of my

34:56

life. But I, you know, I just felt like,

34:58

f***ing whatever, man. It's time to chill out for

35:00

a little bit. One of the things that I

35:02

was in LA for was, because

35:04

I had all of these 420 ideas, but

35:06

really what I'm so glad to do is

35:08

like actually get to what's more interesting about

35:10

all of this with people who actually like

35:13

sincerely have a relationship with weed. And like,

35:15

it's nuanced and it's not as simple as,

35:17

oh, so. Well, let me tell you this.

35:20

420 is the potheads, what New

35:22

Year's Eve is to alcoholics. It's

35:24

an amateur's holiday. And especially in New York,

35:26

we're- Thanksgiving is where you

35:28

get high. Really, my favorite Twitter search is like

35:30

weed on Thanksgiving weed

35:32

plus like cousins. It's like everybody

35:34

attesting to the joy of discovering

35:36

this forbidden thing of getting high

35:38

with your cousins once a year. My mom brought,

35:41

my mom kinda kicked that door down for everybody. Shut up,

35:43

Cam, dude. We'll f***ing rip it on Thanksgiving.

35:45

I'll be back. But I

35:48

just don't kinda want, like I said, I

35:50

don't wanna make it the standard. I don't

35:52

wanna, I'm just kinda wanna dry off. Yeah,

35:54

so one of the things I asked in

35:56

LA of an interview subject, Matt Barnes, former

35:58

NBA player, Was the preeminent

36:01

stoner while active in the NBA was like,

36:03

what do you think about the hunter? And

36:06

a boss. Yes nine minutes. I watch it I

36:24

Anybody from the country was like just grab

36:26

the thing throw it outside man and I'm

36:28

gonna kill you What I

36:30

wanted to know from Matt Barnes was what's his view on? On

36:33

cannabis as a performance enhancing drug because he

36:35

smoked so much before games And again, there's

36:38

nuance to the ritual and how far ahead

36:40

of games and so forth But for you,

36:42

did you ever have a thought of I

36:45

am made better Because of this man bonfire

36:47

ripped when we got high if there's a

36:49

certain high J and I would get where

36:51

that radio show would Be fucking cooking because

36:53

we're buddies We're genuine friends and I love

36:55

getting high with big J and we would

36:58

watch silly videos and it would be like

37:01

Everything I did in high school that brought me

37:03

joy after school I got to do that job

37:05

for eight years and I love it and I

37:07

love it and I still love going over to

37:09

J's And smoking a joint and watching YouTube fails.

37:11

I feel like Something you said about

37:13

alcohol is what you're maybe getting at correct

37:15

me if I'm wrong Is that

37:18

when you quit drinking you were

37:20

afraid that your talent was tied

37:22

to drinking? I still feel that about

37:24

right I still feel You

37:27

know, I just headlined my first weekend without

37:29

weed in Omaha and it

37:31

was like I could not be more fascinated

37:33

as to how that Felt it felt I

37:35

was nervous Until I

37:37

got on stage and I was like

37:39

I was doing stand-up Gotta

37:42

write better jokes I'm

37:45

still here. That's how that's not so here and I had a

37:47

phone and I was I was What

37:49

I found was I didn't lose my

37:51

place in my set I found like I felt like

37:53

it was a little more concise. I felt like it

37:56

was a little more like oh You

37:58

know, I think you kind of want to learn how to hit

38:00

the baseball without steroids. It's like if

38:02

I can, you know, if I can hit

38:05

dingers, not on juice, well, then I've got, I've got

38:07

the goods, I've got my swing back, but

38:09

the swing stays your swing. I feel like

38:11

it doesn't get away from me as fast as it did

38:13

when I was high all the time. I

38:16

feel like stuff would get away from

38:18

me. And I back where it's

38:20

like, uh, are you catch, you like saw

38:22

that concentration as the lions or is like, and

38:24

then it falls in my hand and you're like,

38:26

oh, when I, when I'm sober now I can

38:29

kind of see, I don't go like, I'm just

38:31

like, oh, just, just put your

38:33

hands out. And there it is. So what it sounds

38:35

like, I mean, then this is something that I was

38:37

hoping, um, you would have insight

38:39

into was just like, Oh, absent

38:42

this variable, I am like

38:44

this. And I've learned that actually the thing,

38:46

not that, you know, the real championship was

38:49

the friends you made along the way, but

38:51

it really is, it is that like, you,

38:53

you've of course been the guy going on

38:55

stage the whole time. Yeah. That like, you

38:57

know, the cliche and superhero movies where it's

38:59

like, I've lost my powers and it's like,

39:01

no, you always had your powers. You just

39:03

thought that this emulate or this thing gave

39:05

you your powers. And it was visibility cloak.

39:07

Yeah. And it's like, no, you don't really

39:09

need that. And again, this is something that

39:11

I have gotten to myself. I don't

39:13

expect everyone to feel this way. It's

39:16

just something that like, if you're

39:18

struggling with substances, just know

39:21

it's probably, it's not

39:23

the substance. It's you can get rid

39:25

of it. You know, I think one of

39:27

my favorite things about comedy and being able to

39:29

do podcasts and a radio show and is when

39:32

I talk about drinking, people reach out to me

39:34

and they go, you don't demonize it. You don't

39:36

make it like there's

39:38

a lot of programs out there that make you

39:41

white knuckle and they go like, you can never

39:43

do this again, but you go, well, if you

39:45

understand the relationship, you understand sometimes you don't need

39:47

it. So I don't know. Yeah. I just think

39:50

substances in this country are a lot, a lot

39:52

of times marketed well and taxed heavily. So they

39:54

like people to be on them and that can

39:56

kind of blur your relationship

39:58

with the substance. especially now that weed

40:01

is legal, there's a lot of people pushing it

40:03

that demonized it 10, 15 years ago. And

40:06

those of us that are lifelong weed

40:08

smokers, it's like, man, some of y'all came to

40:10

the party when it was safe and we think

40:12

it dorks. So maybe

40:14

stop thinking like, I gotta... No,

40:16

you were smoking weed before that. Yeah, a little

40:19

bit, like the year or two before that, but not most

40:21

of the... If any of my high school friends still listen

40:23

to things I make, which I bet they don't, but if

40:25

they do, shout out to Ashley Sudley, who right now is

40:27

thinking, lady, when we got high

40:29

in high school, you got on all fours

40:31

in the driveway. And we're like, I'm dying,

40:33

call an ambulance. Yeah, but that, I

40:35

mean, I think there's just people who go through

40:38

that. You're like, you see people go through it

40:40

later when it's safer and you're kind of like...

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