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Episode from the podcastLead. Learn. Change.

John Tanner - Accountability is About the Future

Released Wednesday, 22nd January 2020
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From one career intention to another (3:50)

The pervasive but poorly supported failure narrative (4:00)

Working in the standardized testing world and a shift in thinking (4:30)

Who is at fault? (4:50)

What? No ideas for an alternative? (6:00)

Testing and accountability as commensurate with one another (6:35)

Test-based accountability is not the source of the problem (6:50)

Schools deserve an appropriate accountability system (7:30)

Effective organizations use forward-facing accountability mechanisms (8:30)

Forward-facing issues fail to be emphasized in schools (9:20)

Is backward-facing accountability beneficial? (9:40)

Is backward-facing accountability even possible? (10:45)

Destined or expected to repeat the past, year after year (11:40)

Are schools’ accountability practices truly backward-facing? (12:30)

The pitfalls of backward-facing accountability (13:20)

The positives embedded in accountability (13:55)

Imposed accountability (14:35)

Operating in, and ignoring, a context of ongoing change (16:40)

Identifying effectiveness as a prerequisite for accountability (17:25)

Research and logic do not support A-F grading of schools (18:30)

Both effective and ineffective schools do exist (19:30)

Student benefit at the center of school practices (21:30)

Accomplishment vs. measurement (22:20)

Hopes and dreams (23:20)

Hopes and dreams and the level of “mission” (24:00)

Hopes and dreams for a higher test score? (25:20)

Higher test scores or “getting ready for life?” (26:20)

Parents need to have meaningful conversations about their children (31:25)

Mission vs. mission statement (32:20)

For-profits and non-profits have a handful of missions (33:30)

Public schools tend have more than two dozen missions (33:55)

The biggest issue facing public schools today (35:20)

Next steps for TestSense (37:05)

True accountability’s potential as a national movement (37:35)

Legislative solution or legislative support? (38:00)

Mrs. Carlisle – a great teacher (40:25)

Growing up with a disability and Mrs. Carlisle’s wisdom (40:35)

Accountability processes and frameworks do not need to be unwieldy (42:20)

Podcast cover art for Lead. Learn. Change. is a view from Brunnkogel (mountaintop) over the mountains of the Salzkammergut in Austria, courtesy of photographer Simon Berger, published on www.unsplash.com.

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