Todd Lichti and Rik Brown try to make sense of 2020.

One of the great delights of LeaderShip of Fools is the people you meet and the conversations you get to have. Todd Lichti is one of those delights and this conversation is thoughtful, honest and wise.

A lot of our fans love hearing from Todd and the stories he shares about life in the NBA as a professional basketball player.

But his 2020 story about what happens to leaders, parents, sports teams under duress is so timely. And as someone born in the USA and now living in Australia - he shares his take on Donald Trump.

This episode is a great way to end your week.

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