The Rev. Dr. Jan Edmiston loves the church enough, she says, to transform it and she has a record of transformation as a pastor, mid-council leader, PC(USA) leader, blogger, and much more. A consummate partner in ministry, Jan served alongside Denise Anderson as the first co-moderators of the General Assembly in 2016, a model that has been adopted ever since. It's not just how Jan thinks, it is how she takes action that makes a mark. Join Lee and Jan for a well-rounded conversation about church leadership that matters.