0:00

So I want to ask you this question, but I actually want

0:02

Frankie to answer it first He's on the line right

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now Frank Corrado. I know he's Chalvin at the bed Our

0:06

guy makes here the SN hockey analyst

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Frankie. What's up, buddy? Hi

0:11

everyone, Julia. Welcome back

0:13

as you know, I like to have a couple things on the

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bulletin board Yes, you right away. So

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Julia right off the top great job

0:20

at the Memorial Cup fantastic interviews

0:22

Especially with Patrick Watt a be

0:25

I've talked to you all week You

0:27

other than what we're gonna talk about in the interview, yeah,

0:30

yeah, that would make a lot of sense You've got nothing

0:32

to say to me, but Julia But I

0:34

am curious right the Patrick Watt interview

0:36

a

0:37

couple of interviews that you do a Patrick Watt and they're

0:39

all fantastic But which one I'm

0:41

curious Frankie which one you think it might be as well

0:44

Which moment meant more to you

0:46

being in the Gato shower with Patrick Watt

0:49

or getting the Sean Spearing? This guy's

0:51

a loser quote

0:52

go viral like which one sits

0:54

on the top of like your your career

0:57

milestones Oh, man, those are like two

0:59

top moments I think probably the Gatorade

1:01

shower and to be candid with everyone listening in the radio I've

1:04

yet to watch my hair lie So I have my

1:06

I have my hair pulled back in a bun and there is blue Gatorade

1:08

in it right now It

1:11

is slightly concerning that you haven't washed

1:13

your hair yet, but I will give you

1:16

Our ethics on this show again, I

1:19

shower twice a day sometimes three,

1:21

but I wash my hair twice a week Let's just get

1:23

that

1:23

Gato in the

1:25

hair would be would would allow

1:27

you to be able to break that I'm just not ready to

1:29

come down off it yet, but Sean Spearing what

1:32

a beauty that guy is Can we play this actually

1:34

really quickly because for those who missed it

1:36

this clip went viral absolutely viral

1:39

and it was hilarious

1:40

Julia was speaking to Sean

1:42

Spearing a member of the Peterborough Pete's it was it

1:44

was like between period the

1:47

first period let's give full context Mary Philly

1:49

plant and men on home go out to do and

1:51

Megan Augusta go out to do the puck drop and

1:53

Prior I was sitting on the bench in my pregame

1:55

interviews These guys are beaking at one another

1:58

the whole pregame and In the

2:00

WHL, the rule is different. You're allowed to warm up all

2:02

the way to the red line. In the OHL, you're only

2:04

allowed to warm up to the blue line. So I think that

2:06

there was a little miscommunication there between Luca

2:08

Siona, the captain of Seattle

2:11

and Sean Spearing, the captain of Peterborough, because

2:13

Siona was warming up right in

2:15

the neutral zone and Spearing obviously

2:17

took issue with that. They were beefing

2:20

hard about it. To the point that

2:22

during the ceremonial puck drop,

2:24

apparently there was some spitting and some swearing.

2:27

I went to talk to Marie-Philippe Poulin afterwards and she was

2:29

like, oh, I thought they were kidding. I had no idea what

2:32

was going on. Poor Poulin

2:34

was just trying to drop the puck. And then there

2:36

was this moment right here after

2:38

the first period when I asked him about

2:40

the animosity. OK,

2:42

so jaw-wired shut, you're doing this interview.

2:44

Also a lot of chirping at the opening

2:46

face-off circle. You don't know this team

2:48

very well, but definitely a lot of animosity.

2:51

Yeah, honestly, that guy's just a loser,

2:53

to be honest with you. No

2:55

other way to put it, he's just a loser.

2:58

Thank you, good luck. I was

3:01

like, what time is it? Is it third period? You already

3:03

hate this guy so much. That was the

3:05

way that you were just like, oh, thank you. Good

3:07

luck in the second. And then I died laughing. He

3:09

died laughing. Frankie,

3:10

Frankie, I was saying

3:13

this. We were talking about it. I think I was with Pete, actually.

3:15

We were talking about it. Which one would be her favorite

3:17

moment?

3:18

Actually, it might have been with

3:21

Josh Cloak. And I said that deep

3:23

down, it's the Shawn Spearing. She's going to publicly

3:26

come out and say Patrick Wap. But deep down,

3:28

if I know Julia, it's the Shawn Spearing

3:30

viral clip that she's going to be most proud of five

3:33

years down the road.

3:34

I would put it this way. Anytime you're

3:37

in a championship setting and there's

3:39

a Gatorade shower and you're interviewing a

3:41

legend like Patrick Law is, I

3:43

think that's probably going to stand higher

3:46

on your list. But as far as asking the right

3:48

question at the right time and eliciting

3:51

an answer that goes viral the way

3:53

that did, I think that's

3:55

just a job well done. And

3:57

that's something to be very proud of as a reporter.

4:00

as a journalist, Julia, which you are. Hard

4:02

day. But I would say that,

4:04

listen, you're interviewing

4:06

Patrick Law after Memorial Cup Championship

4:09

on national television. And just

4:11

the clout that that man has

4:13

and the cachet that he has,

4:15

I don't think Julia's lying when she says that's

4:18

a pretty cool moment and tops on her list. It

4:20

was close. It was close, I will say.

4:23

And I went for the Cione interview after the

4:25

second. They nised me on it. I got to ask him after

4:27

the game, his

4:28

perspective on everything. But I was fully looking

4:30

to stir the pot that day. I was.

4:31

Oh, that's hilarious. We're Frank Caron,

4:33

our TSN hockey analyst. Let's get to the hockey

4:35

now, Frank. You've been 10 minutes into the show. But

4:38

let's get to some pock. Vegas

4:40

leading the Cup Final, two games to nil, bit

4:43

of an off day as they shift things

4:45

back to Florida. But they've outscored them 12 to 4

4:48

through these two games so far. What have you made of the series?

4:51

It just is not even close. It's

4:53

really not even close. Like you look at all the key

4:55

areas, whether it's the slot, whether it's the

4:57

neutral zone, whether it's discipline,

5:00

special teams, like it's just completely

5:02

dominated by Vegas. And

5:04

I'm sure everyone's been saying it, but it's quite obvious

5:07

that the only chance Florida was

5:09

really going to have in this series was if Sergey

5:11

Bobrowski played the way he had been

5:13

playing. And not only is he

5:15

not playing the way he has been, but Vegas

5:18

has done a really good job of getting to him. And

5:20

it's stuff that the Hurricanes weren't able to

5:22

do, things that the Leafs weren't able to do.

5:24

And that's kind of been the story

5:27

for this series. Matthew Kachuk

5:29

obviously wants to be involved, and he wants

5:31

to push the needle

5:34

offensively. But he's not really

5:36

able to, because for Florida, the chances

5:38

that they're getting, Aiden Hill's been great.

5:41

But other than that, they are fewer and further

5:43

between than they would like so far. So

5:46

it's going to be very difficult for Florida

5:48

to climb this mountain, because it seems like

5:51

when

5:52

you play against Vegas, you have

5:54

to generate, you have to work

5:56

so hard, and so many things have

5:58

to go right for you. the ice just

6:01

to get like one quality chance and

6:03

by the time that chance happens it's

6:05

like those gargantuan defencemen

6:07

for Vegas swallow you up and they're

6:10

really good at moving the puck the other way and it

6:12

doesn't really matter which line is on the ice

6:14

for Vegas one through four they're

6:16

doing a much better job of getting through the

6:18

ice whether it's clean with possession whether

6:21

it's dumping it in getting it back and

6:23

one of the things that Vegas has done outside

6:26

of getting to Sergei Bobrowski one

6:28

of the things they've done better than all the other teams in the

6:30

playoffs is exposing the Florida

6:32

D for what we kind of thought they

6:35

were going in right like that's the left side

6:37

that has Josh Mahura, Mark

6:40

Stahl you know like Radco

6:42

Goudis is obviously out right now and Fitzgerald

6:44

is gonna be playing but that's one of

6:46

the things we talked about it's like there's a

6:49

left side there that's ready to be exposed

6:51

and even a guy like Aaron Exblad like he's

6:53

a good player but he's not this defensive juggernaut,

6:56

Brandon Montour has been outstanding but

6:58

he's not that guy either like he's a very

7:00

I don't want to say one-dimensional

7:02

but he's very offensively driven as a

7:04

defenseman and no one's really been

7:07

able to expose that group until now until

7:09

Vegas and it's paying off for Vegas

7:12

and it's quite evident.

7:13

So if you are one of those Florida Panthers defenseman

7:15

then Frankie a lot of conversation about Bobrowski

7:18

needing to see the path

7:21

needing to see in front of the net so if

7:23

you're one of those defenseman how do you help him out I don't

7:27

know without screening him like what's the technique here?

7:29

Well no it's a good question because you

7:32

seem you think it's just like well I just need

7:34

to box people out better and that's great but

7:37

when Vegas is gonna do that to you shift

7:39

over shift over shift something else is

7:41

gonna give because you're gonna start exerting

7:43

yourself a lot on the defensive side

7:46

of things so when you're in this box

7:48

out for I don't know 15 20 seconds

7:50

in front of the net while the other Vegas players

7:52

are cycling the puck or the puck goes up to the point

7:55

how much juice do you have left to go into the corner

7:57

and shake off a check of a guy like who's

8:00

ready to put you through the wall or that Nicolas

8:02

Wah who's six foot, you know, six

8:05

foot four and he's a big body, like you

8:07

just, at some point, something is gonna

8:09

give and it's gonna lead to a mistake. So

8:11

to answer your question, Julie, I would say, of

8:14

course, you need to have a little more, you

8:16

know, you just need to be a little more aware

8:19

as far as boxing out and make sure you get into

8:21

those battles and those confrontations earlier

8:23

on. But it's a big challenge because

8:26

you're gonna get engaged in those things and now you're

8:28

eating up 20, 30 seconds in your own zone,

8:30

how much juice do you have left to make a breakout

8:33

pass and get up in the rush? Like that was one of the

8:35

things that Florida, when they

8:37

were playing at their best, like they had four

8:39

players up in the rush. Montour was always

8:41

that guy. Even X-Men was getting up in the play.

8:44

Like I even saw at one point in the leaf series,

8:46

I think I had to like do a windshield wipe on

8:48

my eyes because I saw Mark Stahl,

8:51

like up in the rush, like as the

8:53

fourth guy, you know, like so. It

8:55

just seemed like they were so bought

8:57

into doing things that way, but you

8:59

can see what happens when Vegas kind of puts the

9:02

boots to them in the offensive zone.

9:04

Not only do they have, they don't have

9:06

enough energy to get up and play that

9:09

way, but they're in trouble in front of their net

9:11

because they're screening Bob and Vegas

9:13

is kind of just setting up shop there. And what

9:15

that does is that brings a Florida player as well.

9:17

So it's a two for one deal. Not only is Bob having

9:20

to look through Vegas screens,

9:22

he's got to look around his teammates as we saw a bunch

9:24

in game two.

9:26

You know, going into this series,

9:28

there's a lot made about the 10 day layoff

9:31

between games for the Florida Panthers and if that was

9:33

going to kill the momentum. I mean, if we

9:35

revisit that through two games, now we're

9:37

looking at hindsight. I mean, is that

9:40

really something where the Florida

9:42

Panthers have kind of just lost their mojo

9:44

with all that time off and might not be

9:46

able to get it back in time?

9:48

For sure. It has to be a factor. 10 days

9:51

off in any kind of season,

9:53

whether it's the playoffs or the regular

9:55

season, is just way too long and we

9:57

don't see it. There's no real... Playbook

10:00

as far as how to handle it like I would imagine

10:03

they had a couple days off and they practiced a

10:05

little bit then They have a couple days off and then they they

10:07

or sorry another day off and then they practice a bit

10:10

and then you're thinking Okay Like we still probably

10:12

have about four or five days to go

10:14

and like that's an all-star break So you

10:16

have two all-star breaks combined in one

10:19

and eventually you have to get to the point where you treat it

10:21

like a training Camp like a mini training camp

10:23

and ramp things up But it's really difficult

10:26

like the the only thing that I can think of

10:28

that's comparable and it's not as long

10:30

But was when the COVID season

10:32

shut things down And teams

10:35

came back in that bubble in Toronto

10:37

and Edmonton It was like we saw different

10:39

teams because all the momentum that you had

10:41

at that point was lost And you

10:43

basically had a bunch of time off where you're sitting

10:46

stagnant and now you had to ramp things

10:48

up and to a lesser Extent that's what the Florida

10:50

Panthers had to deal with under very different

10:52

circumstances but to have ten days

10:54

off like that in the you know before the Stanley

10:57

Cup final that didn't do them any favors

10:59

and It just made a tough situation

11:02

going up against the team like like Vegas

11:04

even tougher and to your point

11:06

like talking about This this team

11:09

in Florida where you know people have been saying

11:11

it's a team of destiny and but brovsky's

11:13

been unbelievable and it's been An uncharacteristic

11:16

too much time off. That's the killer,

11:18

right? Like when you watch basketball You

11:20

don't see a team call it timeout because they're

11:22

just getting too many points in a row and they're flowing

11:25

great It's the team that needs things to stop

11:27

the team that needs things to slow down in basketball

11:29

That's gonna call the timeout and essentially

11:32

Florida someone called timeout on Florida

11:34

and now they're ice and they're down to nothing in the series

11:37

And it doesn't look good for them going back home

11:39

Yeah, they've had this kind of junkyard dogs

11:41

vibe about them too with with they

11:44

play with so emotion There's so much emotion Frankie,

11:46

but it's kind of turned into a lack

11:48

of discipline almost in this series Even the way

11:50

that Paul Maurice was

11:51

was really freaking on the bench during game

11:53

two Do you think that just managing their emotions

11:56

a little bit better and mostly staying out of the box

11:58

will be pivotal for them If they're gonna try to get back

11:59

back in this thing?

12:01

Yeah, no doubt. They need to be disciplined

12:03

and there's, you know, they, they obviously walk

12:05

the line between being a physical

12:08

team, being a chippy team, trying to engage

12:10

you after the whistle, all that kind of stuff like that

12:12

plays into their game plan, but really it

12:14

does start on the bench. Like I, I know in my

12:17

experience, when I had a coach that was yelling

12:19

at every single thing that happened

12:21

and losing his mind, it was very difficult

12:24

for them to convey the message to us on the bench

12:26

that we need to stay calm and we need to

12:28

stay relaxed. Like it's like welfare. I can't remember

12:30

what movie it is, but there's that Will Ferrell movie

12:32

where he's screaming. He's like, we need

12:35

to come composure. Like

12:37

he's screaming about composure, but he's not being

12:39

composed, right? Like you still need to walk

12:41

that line as much as it's a physical game and you

12:43

want to get teams to fall

12:46

into your trap. Um, but I just,

12:48

I find it interesting how single

12:51

penalty Florida takes. It's like

12:53

there's complete outrage behind it on the bench

12:56

and it just can't be like there's, there's

12:58

enough penalties that are happening on the ice that

13:00

are just penalties. They just are. And

13:02

you're probably better suited at that point.

13:05

I was never a coach, but I can tell you from a player's

13:07

point of view, you're probably better suited at that

13:09

point to accept the fact that you got the call

13:11

against you and put your

13:14

energy on the bench saying rallying the boys.

13:16

Okay, boys, come on. Like let's get through this

13:18

and then we go. You know what I mean? Like big

13:20

kill here. Then we take the momentum instead

13:22

of it's always the referee

13:25

whose job in you. Like that's, that's

13:27

a tough mentality to kind of play around

13:30

and listen, Paul Maurice, if you

13:32

ask me, like he did that quite successfully.

13:36

Previous series against Toronto and Carolina, where

13:38

he made a stink early on in both those

13:41

series about calls being going against their

13:43

team. And then suddenly it was like, oh,

13:45

the calls were too, too, that game. Well, really

13:47

like they were the most penalized team in the league. So

13:50

how did that happen? So I can understand what Paul Maurice

13:52

is trying to do and he's done it throughout the

13:54

course of these playoffs, but it gets to a certain

13:56

point where there's a certain

13:58

level of unpredictability. within the officiating

14:01

and the referees and what you're gonna get on a game-to-game

14:03

basis, you feel that out early

14:05

on and you're down to nothing in this

14:07

series. You need to do everything you possibly

14:10

can to get your group to rally. And

14:12

I would say the energy that is spent

14:14

yelling at officials and being

14:16

outraged at every call that comes your way

14:19

would be better spent trying to rally your team

14:21

at this point. Yeah, Frankie, we actually

14:23

have

14:24

the composure audio that you're referencing.

14:26

Would you like to hear it?

14:29

Josh, play it. That's

14:31

right. We can't have anyone freak

14:34

out out there, okay? We've got to keep our

14:36

composure. We've got too far.

14:38

There's too much to lose. It's not just

14:40

keep our composure. The

14:42

best part is it looks like Matthew Kachuk

14:45

standing there in his gage. I know. He's

14:47

got to stay

14:47

there. That's what's going on in the Panthers locker room right

14:49

now. We've got to keep our composure. That's what it looks like on the bench.

14:52

I know. That's what it looks like on the bench right now. Well,

14:54

you've got... You can't keep your composure that way.

14:56

There's a certain level where, okay, you can't

14:58

be snoring behind the bench because that's

15:00

not good. There's no energy involved in that. But

15:03

just you need to find a way to channel it the right way. Make

15:05

your point with the officials early on. No

15:07

problem. I think every coach needs to have

15:09

an element of gamesmanship where they make their

15:11

point and they state their case. But

15:14

at some point in the game, like, it

15:16

is what it is with the referees.

15:17

They're going to call what they're going to call. They're not

15:19

going to call what they're not going to call. And

15:22

you have to avoid games getting out

15:24

of hand and getting too far gone because

15:26

you see what happens where it just turns into

15:28

a circus after. And at no point

15:30

in that game did the Florida Panthers have any chance

15:32

at winning.

15:33

With Frank Rotto, Frankie,

15:35

we had a trade in the middle of the Stanley Cup final.

15:38

You don't see that often. A

15:40

pretty sizable one, too, with

15:43

Provrov going to Columbus. You've

15:45

got some bad contracts and picks

15:47

going elsewhere. A little bit of a three-way

15:49

deal. What did you make of that trade yesterday?

15:52

Well, just with Columbus, the

15:54

way things have gone for them the last little

15:57

while, tell me

15:59

that they're a team that's...

15:59

thinks they're closer than they are and they're

16:02

not necessarily trying to rebuild anything.

16:04

They think that with a few moves, they're

16:07

knocking on the door to the playoffs. So

16:10

you hire Mike Babcock, that's not

16:13

a rebuild coach anymore. You

16:15

signed Johnny Goudreau last year. You

16:18

landed the biggest free agent. And so

16:20

now you're bringing a defenseman in ProBrav, who I

16:22

happen to believe is very good. He's a great puck

16:25

moving defenseman. He skates well. He's with

16:27

a little tenacity, a little physicality.

16:30

He's a good player and he's going to help that team. The

16:33

boss that they gave up, like the picks that

16:35

they moved, would tell you that this team

16:37

is not really interested in tearing

16:39

things down and subtracting, but really what they're interested

16:42

in is adding. And

16:44

Yarmul Kekelainen has not been afraid

16:46

to be aggressive throughout his tenure

16:48

with the Columbus Blue Jackets. And

16:51

if you happen to follow, we talked to Aaron

16:53

Porschlein a couple times throughout the season

16:55

doing our leaf games on PSN 1050. And

16:58

he said, like season ticket holders in

17:01

Columbus, like it is, they

17:03

are full. Like they have a lot of support

17:05

for that team. And a smaller market

17:08

like that, they need to start producing some

17:10

kind of results. So I would imagine the mandate

17:12

there is like, let's find a way to turn

17:14

this team into a competitive team as soon as humanly

17:16

possible. And that's what they've done. I think it's also

17:18

a great move for Danny Brere and the Philadelphia

17:21

Flyers. He

17:23

was not afraid to use the word rebuild

17:25

when he was introduced as the general manager. And

17:28

what's he do? He moves on from a player that doesn't

17:30

really fit what they're trying to do as

17:33

far as the direction their team is going, brings

17:35

in some picks. He takes on

17:38

Cal Peterson and Sean Walker,

17:40

who has been good throughout his career,

17:43

and takes a flyer

17:45

on a young prospect. I think that's

17:47

a good piece of business for him. And

17:49

he's kind of staying true to what he's all

17:52

about already. Like it's a pretty savvy move

17:54

for a young general manager without

17:56

any experience. And sometimes

17:59

you kind of think, okay, let's. like no experience

18:01

but pretty good knowledge and

18:04

that might count for something as well. So it's

18:06

a move that essentially makes sense

18:08

for both sides and I guess it makes sense for the LA Kings

18:11

because they moved some money off the bus and

18:13

it sounds like they want to sign gabrikoff

18:15

to too much money and only

18:18

on a two year deal. I guess that's what he wants.

18:20

Yeah, weird though. From what I've

18:22

heard, it's impossible for new rookie

18:25

GMs to make bold moves with bite. I

18:27

thought that was the case in the NHL.

18:30

Well, sometimes Al's brother knowledge trumps

18:32

experience. I think it's nice to have experience. I

18:34

think it's nice to know that you're

18:37

well equipped for any kind of situation

18:39

that pops up and you've seen it and done it before

18:42

because let's be honest, like whether it's us in

18:44

broadcasting or me as a player, general

18:47

managers, everyone would love a mulligan

18:49

at some point in their careers and if a certain

18:51

situation were to arise again,

18:53

you know you would handle a difference. So experience

18:56

is great. But it seems like Danny Brere, like

18:58

it seems like he kind of has the knowledge and

19:01

know how to get something done that helps

19:03

his team with some draft capital and

19:05

some players that are younger and

19:08

maybe fit what he's trying to do a little bit more.

19:10

All right, Frankie. Do you wanna

19:13

go? No, no, you

19:13

go ahead. All right. We'll stick with

19:15

this, the Philly situation for a little

19:17

bit because as we've been doing, we're

19:20

doing our burning questions each and every

19:22

day and today we're asking who

19:24

the league should call on if Philly

19:26

is in full fire sale mode. Is

19:29

there a guy you think on Philadelphia

19:31

that the Leafs need or would be a good

19:33

fit for what Trilliving wants to

19:36

do here in Toronto?

19:37

I mean, the two names that come to

19:39

mind right away is the goaltender Carter

19:41

Hart and Travis Konekny.

19:44

Those are the two names, like you asked me the question,

19:47

those are the first two names that jump off the page.

19:49

Do I think the Leafs need another

19:51

undersized forward? No, I don't.

19:54

I think if we've learned anything from the playoffs

19:56

right now, it's that they need a little

19:58

bit of size. but size that can

20:01

skate, size that is mobile, size

20:03

that can play physical, right?

20:05

Like, and play with that kind of pace. As

20:07

far as the goaltender is concerned, Carter

20:10

Hart, when healthy, has been really good.

20:12

Like he has been, and it sounds like they want to shop

20:14

him around. And maybe that might be better for

20:16

the player because it just seems

20:18

like it hasn't really been, it hasn't

20:21

gone the way he's hoped. And when Philly

20:23

got off to a surprisingly good

20:26

start this season, it was largely,

20:28

in fact, to Carter

20:29

Hart because he was so good. So

20:32

those are the first two names that come to mind.

20:34

But this is the

20:37

thing with Philly. They're not a very

20:39

good team because they're not a very

20:41

good team. Like it's not like you're sitting

20:43

there thinking, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to take

20:45

Philly's best young forward. Like a guy

20:48

like Faraby, like the guy's got five years

20:50

left on his deal. But I think Owen Tippett

20:52

is a good player as well. And

20:54

then on the back end, you're not going to take on

20:56

Travis Sanheim and the contract that

20:59

he signed. Like that's going to be their problem in

21:01

a few years. Same with Rasmus Rispelainen.

21:03

So it's not like you're sitting

21:05

there looking at Philly thinking, okay,

21:07

it's a fire sale, but I'm shopping at

21:09

Gucci. Like it could

21:11

be some kind of fire sale, but you're like, okay, I might

21:14

have to inherit some term and some money

21:16

and some players that might not be a fit for me.

21:18

So I'm not sure that like anyone on

21:21

that Philadelphia Flyers team, unless you're

21:23

talking about connect me, uh, fits

21:25

with the least need. But like I said, like, do

21:27

you really need another undersized forward

21:29

on your, on your group? I'm going to throw one

21:32

more name out there and you tell

21:34

me a swipe

21:34

and left, you swipe and right, because we've

21:36

talked a lot about Brad, you're living what he could

21:39

do with this team. If you look at what he built

21:41

in Calgary, you know, it was from the backup.

21:43

So we already talked about Carter Hart, but they also have

21:45

a pretty hulking blue line

21:47

out in Calgary. There's a guy who

21:50

is a polarizing figure. I think in the hockey

21:52

world, lots of people really split on them, but

21:54

Rasmus wrist aligning swipe and left or

21:56

right on this guy.

21:58

Oh, I'm swiping left on wrist. line

22:00

in. No, he just, I

22:03

get what you're saying. They need a right handed

22:05

defenceman. They need a guy that can

22:07

maybe play top pair minutes. But

22:10

I mean, how many times, how many different situations

22:12

do you need to see him and be like, oh,

22:14

there's something more there. Maybe he just kind

22:16

of is what he is at this point. Not to mention

22:19

that like the Leafs are still a team that

22:21

needs to be conscious

22:23

about the cap. And okay,

22:25

he's got five years left,

22:28

four years left at 5.1 million

22:30

until he's a UFA. Like can that

22:33

money be spent better? Like I would like,

22:35

I would probably say why not aim higher

22:38

for a guy than a guy like Risselinan.

22:40

Like why inherit someone that you think you

22:43

need to have as a

22:45

project instead of finding someone

22:47

that you think can be really good

22:49

and you know what you're getting and there's some certainty

22:51

behind it. All right.

22:53

Craig Button gave me just going back to the

22:55

connect anything another undersized speedy forward.

22:57

Craig Button had just one of the best

22:59

scouting quotes of all time when we were out

23:02

in Kamloops. He said something to the effect of, you know,

23:04

when you get when you got a good bunch of good little

23:06

players, a good little hockey team,

23:09

it's one of the best all timers I've

23:12

ever heard. I'm

23:13

like that moment. If you will, that's,

23:15

you know what, when you're around Craig Button,

23:17

you're best suited to stay close by and

23:20

ask him some questions. Julia, which you're

23:22

very good at and see if you can elicit some answers,

23:24

which you also are very good at judging

23:26

by your Memorial Cup experience where

23:29

the guy said that guy's just a loser

23:31

there. So good job by getting

23:33

that quote out of our pal Craig Button. He's

23:35

full of great quotes. Oh yeah. How many times

23:37

did you want to answer that or say that

23:40

in an interview when talking about a guy? That guy's just

23:42

a loser. He

23:43

fit your tongue. Yeah. What do you think of it, Frankie?

23:45

Like people were, some were like, oh, that guy's loser.

23:48

And I, as in just in the role

23:50

that we work in in media, I was

23:52

like, how many worst

23:54

things in the ice gets said than loser. He was

23:56

honest in the interview. Like, aren't we asking for that sort

23:58

of thing in hockey all the time?

24:00

Oh, I think it's great. I think there's nothing

24:02

wrong with what he said I like the emotion behind

24:04

it and I don't know sometimes you get to the point

24:07

where you're on the ice you're in games and some guy's

24:09

yapping at you and Really

24:12

all you're thinking is like this guy is such a

24:14

loser Like and and the number

24:16

one thing that like would hurt someone's feelings

24:18

I guess if you want to say that is like when

24:21

the guy's yapping at you and you finally pipe

24:23

up you're like dude

24:24

No one likes you man No

24:29

No, you're a loser and no one on

24:31

your team likes you chew on that and go

24:33

back to the bench and shut up about it I'm

24:35

trying to play hockey already. Oh, man.

24:38

That's hilarious Frankie appreciate

24:40

it as always buddy. We'll chat again soon

24:43

You guys are not losers. I

24:45

love you guys. We will talk soon. Thanks, buddy.

24:48

You love

24:48

you Frankie Frank

24:50

Gerardo TSN hockey

24:52

analyst one of our favorites. What a guy

24:55

what a guy I think Hazy

24:57

B whose birthday was yesterday by the

24:59

way shooting

25:00

pretty good He's at the

25:02

the pro-am down at the Canadian Open.

25:04

I had to text Hazy B Hazy B is

25:06

living a Julia Tashari dream this week.

25:08

It's not even cool He's golfing with Ryan O'Reilly

25:11

this morning Notably my was

25:13

my favorite before he even came to the league

25:15

and he's going to Taylor Swift this weekend That's pretty

25:17

good. Pretty good weekend. How do you that under the radar

25:20

for so long? I don't know

25:23

He knew he had eras tour tickets and he was

25:25

how do you even acquire those tickets he

25:28

I mean he's got connections I've got a lot of questions

25:30

for that

25:30

guy. He's got connections. I'll say that

25:33

definitely that guy's well connected So I'm sure he

25:35

was able to get himself some some book

25:37

seats. Maybe set him up potentially. I

25:39

think that could have been the case That's a good. That's

25:41

a good call. That definitely could have been the case

25:44

All right, we got to fly but

25:47

coming up in a little bit Matt Larkin is gonna

25:49

join us from daily face off He'll do us at 105

25:51

but on the other side. Let's get back into that burning

25:53

question I'm curious to see what your thoughts

25:56

are on what could be available for the maple leaves

25:58

if they go calling Philadelphia. So

26:00

we'll get to that next. I'm Mike DeStefano

26:03

with Julia Tashari, who's

26:05

going to leave lunch here on TSN 1050.