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So Michael Popak with illegal AF Hot Take,
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according to insiders, Donald Trump is losing confidence
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in his lead trial lawyer in the criminal
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case in New York, the election interference case.
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That lawyer is Todd Blanche, formerly
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an assistant US
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attorney, well-respected criminal
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defense lawyer, white collar criminal defense lawyer,
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but he's not Donald Trump's cup of
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tea. He hasn't been aggressive enough as
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a practicing trial lawyer. I think he's
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been too aggressive, too unprofessional, too
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skating towards the edge of being unethical,
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but Donald Trump thinks he hasn't been
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harsh enough. He hasn't attacked the
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judge, Judge Mershawn and his family
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enough. And even when
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Mershawn chastised in front
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of Donald Trump, Todd
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Blanche last week and said, you're losing
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credibility with me, all credibility with me,
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when you're arguing in the gag order
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hearing that it's not a violation of
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the gag order when Donald Trump reposts
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and retweets somebody else's
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attacks on witnesses, the
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court or jurors. Donald
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Trump didn't like that either. Now look, Donald Trump has
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a long history of
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firing and falling in and out of love with
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his lawyers. He's fallen in and out of love
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with Alina Haber more times than I can count
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on this particular hot take. He's hired
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her, he's fired her, he used her in the
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Eugene Carroll cases, he back benched her in
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the Eugene Carroll cases. He kicked her upstairs to
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be the head lawyer for his pack. And
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brought her back out to put her back at
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the counsel table in certain of these hearings about
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the New York attorney general civil fraud case
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that was a loser. He fell
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in and out of love, really out of love with
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Joe Takapina, fired Joe Takapina after
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Joe Takapina lost the first Eugene
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Carroll case for $5.5 million. Let
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Alina Haber take over and she lost
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the Eugene Carroll case for much
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more than that, for $86.5 million. Now
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focus on Todd Blanche. Why, and this is
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what I'm going to pause it on this
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hot take, why is Susan Neckless who had
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been... sort of a back bencher, not
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even a co-first chair, really a second chair
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to Todd Blanche, meaning she was in the
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second position, co-pilot at best. Why is she
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making arguments to the judge? And now I've
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heard it all. Now they
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want advanced rulings and advanced orders
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from the judge about whether Donald
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Trump is going to violate the
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gag order again. We
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just had not one, but two hearings about
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the gag order and Donald Trump violating it,
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the enhanced gag order. The
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judge has already sanctioned Donald Trump $9,000 per
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violation of the gag order, which frankly is the
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limits of New York
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law under the judiciary law. But he
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said to him on now the third
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occasion, you're skating awful close to being
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put in jail. The judge
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says, let me remind you, I can
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do incarceration in jail for the next
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violation. So now you got Susan
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necklace kind of being pushed by Donald Trump
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into the fray. And I mean, literally, I mean,
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there's reporting of the New York Times that when
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Alina Habba in the Eugene Carroll
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case wasn't doing what Donald Trump wanted her
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to do and wasn't following his direction. He
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smacked her or pushed her on the back
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of her arm to make her stand up,
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get up. All
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right. So he sort of threw
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Susan necklace to the wolves today
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in the courtroom and
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day whatever we are with the Trump trial,
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the and had her stand there with a,
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a sheaf of wrapped
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up documents that were these
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are she said, and I'm paraphrasing,
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these are news articles, your honor,
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news articles, and we want you to
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pre approve them that Donald Trump's allowed
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to, to post
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them without violating the gag order. And
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the prosecutor stood up and said, Josh Steinglass,
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another stood up and said, I'm sorry, she
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wants an advisory opinion from the court.
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Let me just tell you something. When you
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hear that phrase advisory opinions, courts don't do
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or shouldn't do advisory opinions. They have to
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have a live case or controversy in front
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of them. They have to have somebody
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actually violating a gag order about the, has
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violated the gag order. It's a lot of
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past tense in the law. You talk about
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what people have done in the past. When
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you're talking about future conduct, now you're in
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the world of injunctions. You want to enjoin
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or stop somebody from a bad act in
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the future. That's an injunction hearing. That's a
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whole different thing. And we're in criminal court.
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So we shouldn't even be talking about future
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conduct, right? This isn't minority report. We're not,
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we don't have the thought police. Tom Cruise
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isn't going to fly in, you
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know, and bash in the windows of
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Donald Trump's house because he violated the gag order or
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was about to. So you got,
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you got Susan necklace, not Todd Blanche.
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That's my point being pushed by Donald
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Trump in front of the judge and
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saying, judge, we want pre-approval that this
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will violate the gag order. And judge
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says, I don't do. Pre-approvals.
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My advice to your client is that the gag
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order is clear on its face. The
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appellate court has upheld the gag order.
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There's no ambiguity in it. And he,
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and when in doubt, he should steer
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clear of trying to
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violate the gag order. She's basically
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telling the court, her client is
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about to violate the gag order
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once again. This is like
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the little boy that put his hand on the stove over
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and over again. And when he couldn't figure out
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that the burner was on, he used his face
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instead. That's what we're doing with Donald Trump. Donald
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Trump's like, well, that's 9,000. I
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wonder how many thousands of dollars
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Rashad will sanction before, before he
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actually puts me in jail. I
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dare him. I dare. This is
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what he's doing. I dare him
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to put me in jail. Right.
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That's like a bully. Let's
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describe jail for a minute. What that looks like. I
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have a, we have a colleague now, contributor here
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in the Midas Touch network, judge Barbara Jaffe. She
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was a long time judge on this
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Supreme court in New York, dealing with criminal cases,
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just like judge Rashad. She said she would have
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already put him in jail already. I
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would have already put Donald Trump in jail already. The
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jail is either at the back of the courthouse,
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sort of a holding cell jail. Or there's
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a jail around the corner, a
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detention center around the corner that they can use for these
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purposes in state court. The
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other option is Rikers Island, which really
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is for permanent assignment. That's where all
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misdemeanors in New York get
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placed. If you're a misdemeanor, a
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criminal, you go to Rikers Island. There's some
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felons that go to Rikers Island for short
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periods of time as well, before they get
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into a permanent place prison. So
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He's now cycling through lawyers that
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he falls in and out of
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love with. I'm surprised that Susan
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Necklace, frankly, is even still with.
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Donald Trump. Not
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just because I'm surprised she's getting paid,
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probably from all these donor funds, all
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of these grifts that Donald Trump is
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doing. I don't know, all the Bibles
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and sneakers that he's selling. He's paying
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at least his necklace. But she lost
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for him. I mean, Donald Trump hates
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losers. He used to call John McCain
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the hero senator from Arizona who spent
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five years in a concentration
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camp as a prisoner of war
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during Vietnam. Called him a loser because he
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was captured and he was a prisoner of
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war for this country. The
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guy who's Mr. Bonespurs, who never
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served in office, never served in
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the military at all. So
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he doesn't like losers. And Susan necklace
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lost for Donald Trump two years ago.
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17 counts, felony convictions against his companies
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for tax fraud and business record fraud.
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So relevant and so close to what's going on
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right now in the courtroom that the judge wouldn't
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allow it in to go to the jury because
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it would be too prejudicial for them to learn
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that Donald Trump and Susan necklace lost that trial
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two years ago. So how
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is she still around? You
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know, but Todd Blanche, what
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he's, look, here's the reality. Everyone's worried. He's
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gonna fire Todd Blanche and then ask for
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a delay. Not
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so fast. Not so fast. In
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criminal cases, judges don't like delay
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and judges don't like to be a pawn
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by a criminal
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defendant who's trying to delay the inevitable,
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which is justice and jury-finding. So
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you don't get, you don't get to fire your
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counsel that easily. So I'm not really looking to
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that, although it makes for sexy headlines. Donald Trump
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fires counsel in order to delay the trial. I
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just don't think that's gonna happen. But
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what is going to happen is that Todd Blanche is
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either gonna have to stand up for himself and we've
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seen these cliffs of Todd Blanche. We'll
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play one of them here. We see
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these clips of Todd Blanche looking very
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uncomfortable next to Donald Trump, increasingly uncomfortable
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next to Donald Trump. I've seen other
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clips at the end of a trial.
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day or the beginning of a trial day, where
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Susan necklace is so far back and
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holding a clipboard. I thought she worked for
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the court system. And then I went, I
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like rub my eyes. Oh, wait, that's, that's
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his co-counsel in the case. He was now
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running into court asking for it. My
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client's about to violate the gag order
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again. A gag order, by the way,
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he doesn't even seem to understand Donald
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Trump. Cause in front of Todd Blanche,
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who looks again, like he's getting root
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canal without Novocaine when he's standing next
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to Donald Trump. He recently
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just said, and we've had it on the
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Midas that's network. He recently just said Donald
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Trump. I'd love to answer that question, but
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I can't testify because I've got a gag
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order. I mean, talk about captain
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confusion. This is the guy some
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people are thinking about restoring to the presidency.
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The guy that can't keep his eyes open.
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He falls asleep every day, every
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day, REM sleep in court or
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court, according to reliable court watchers,
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and he can't figure out that the gag
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order is not about in court statements. It's
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about out of court statements, extra traditional statements.
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It's not gagging him from testifying. The
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only thing that's stopping him from testifying is,
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I don't know, logic and
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the fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination.
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Short of that, I don't, there's
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no gag order, nor could
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their constitutionally civil
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due process civil rights wise be a
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gag order against somebody testifying in their
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own case, if that's what they so
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choose. And you see, you
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see in that we'll play the clip. Let's play that
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clip. other
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people are allowed to do whatever they want
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to us and I'm not allowed as a
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presidential candidate to lead him
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today the Republican vote not
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again and the one who's leading
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by me by a lot I'm not allowed to
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talk. There's never been any abuse
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like this before this conflicted judge ought
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to get out of this case he
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shouldn't be he should not be having
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this case he gives us
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nothing except got a rigged court
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so I'm going to listen to
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justice because of an unconstitutional court
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or a pending signature and let's
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see what happens thank you very much you
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see Todd Blanche there looking
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like wow this
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is my client this is the guy's pushing me and
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doesn't agree with my decision making listen
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