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Christie's life changed dramatically in the space
1:16
of one week in the spring of
1:19
1887. He went from
1:21
being a prominent member of the Cherokee
1:23
National Council and advisor to the chief
1:26
and leading voice of the Cherokee Nationalist
1:28
Party to being an accused murderer
1:30
and a fugitive from the law. In
1:33
May of 1887, Deputy
1:35
U.S. Marshal Dan Maples was ambushed
1:37
and killed outside the Cherokee capital
1:39
city. The only other person
1:42
present at the time of Maples murder was
1:44
his partner, Deputy George Jefferson and
1:47
Jefferson didn't see the shooter or four
1:49
shooters. But one week later,
1:52
six men testified to a grand jury
1:54
in the court of Judge Isaac Parker,
1:56
the hanging judge, that Ned
1:58
Christie planned and executed. The The
2:00
Murderous Ambush. As
2:02
yet, there didn't seem to be a motive
2:05
for wind dead would want to kill a
2:07
deputy or deputies. But. When Ned didn't
2:09
show up to testify in front of the grand
2:11
jury, Judge Parker issued an
2:13
arrest warrant. As soon
2:15
as word reads Ned that he was a suspect
2:18
in the murder. He proclaimed his
2:20
innocence, denied any involvement, and then
2:22
went into hiding. Ned.
2:25
Was convinced that in a federal court with
2:27
an all white jury. He. Would undoubtedly
2:29
be convicted and sentenced to hang.
2:32
So. He hunkered down at his
2:34
home outside the charity capital and avoided
2:36
alarm and who tried to arrest him.
2:39
For. Two years Judge Parker said
2:41
marshals to capture Ned, but every
2:44
attempt failed. And. During that
2:46
time, Ned's reputation as a
2:48
bloodthirsty outlaw. Rose. To epic
2:51
status. Newspapers.
2:53
Road Salacious stories. The claimed he
2:55
had killed dozens of people, robbed
2:57
everything that could be robbed, and
2:59
committed countless other crimes. None.
3:02
Of it was true. But. It made for
3:04
wonderful reading. and it's old. Lots of
3:06
newspapers, Finally, In
3:09
September of Eighteen Eighty Nine. Two
3:11
and a half years after the murder of
3:13
Deputy Maples. George Parker send
3:15
legendary Long and had Thomas in
3:17
the Indian Territory to bring dead
3:20
Christie and Dead Or Alive. Deputy.
3:23
Thomas and his posse cornered Ned
3:25
at Ned's house and the situation
3:27
quickly turned into a shootout. The
3:30
posse set fire to the house with
3:32
Ned inside and watched it burn to
3:34
the ground. They. Assume they
3:36
had killed the alleged outlaw and they
3:39
rode back to Judge Parker's court in
3:41
triumph. But. Ned survived. He
3:43
had escaped the house and his
3:45
wife discovered him in the nearby
3:47
woods. And. Because he had
3:49
survived, he knew the authorities would never
3:51
stop coming form. He said
3:54
to work building a new fortified
3:56
house in a defensible position. he
3:58
was designed to withstand a shootout if necessary
4:00
and it would be harder to burn.
4:04
More importantly, there was no way
4:06
to sneak up behind it like Heck Thomas'
4:08
posse had done at the original cabin. And
4:11
while Ned worked, the media frenzy ramped
4:13
up another notch. Ned
4:15
Christie, the terror of Indian territory, or
4:18
so the papers made him seem, was
4:21
back. And the papers were
4:23
thrilled to add more fantastical chapters to
4:25
his legend. From
4:34
Black Barrel Media, this is Legends of the
4:36
Old West. I'm your host, Chris
4:38
Wimmer. And this season, we're telling the
4:40
stories of two outlaws, stage coach and
4:42
train robber Sam Bass, and
4:44
controversial fugitive Ned Christie. This
4:47
is episode five, Ned Christie,
4:50
part two of three, Ned's
4:52
fourth. While
5:00
Ned Christie recovered from injuries sustained in
5:02
the shootout and the fire, the
5:05
marshals and the press learned that Ned
5:07
survived the engagement. The
5:09
press was ravenous, as always, and
5:12
reporters heard about Ned's most serious
5:14
injury. A bullet had
5:16
grazed the bridge of his nose and hit
5:18
his right eye socket. Luckily
5:21
for Ned, he didn't lose the eye. His
5:24
vision was blurred for a while, but
5:26
gradually improved. It would never
5:28
fully return, but it was better than nothing. When
5:31
the injury was reported in the newspapers,
5:33
it was embellished and then used as
5:36
more fuel on the fire of the
5:38
man who was portrayed as a notorious
5:40
outlaw. The press said Ned
5:42
had been shot in the face and lost
5:44
most of his nose and his right eye,
5:47
and his face had been left horribly
5:49
disfigured. One reporter speculated
5:51
that the injury must have been devastating
5:53
for Ned because he took such pride
5:55
in what were referred to as his
5:58
dark, fierce, good looks. According
6:01
to another reporter, Ned's
6:03
gross disfigurement had altered his personality
6:05
and deepened his hatred of the
6:07
white man. The
6:09
reporter claimed that Ned pledged he would
6:12
never speak English again. It
6:14
was pretty extraordinary insight from a reporter
6:16
who had probably never been within fifty
6:18
miles of Ned Christie. Meanwhile,
6:21
Judge Parker was still determined to catch
6:24
Ned and Ned was still determined
6:26
to stay free. In
6:32
Fort Smith, Arkansas, after Judge Parker
6:34
learned of the failed attack, he
6:36
issued another arrest warrant for Ned
6:38
Christie. He requested
6:40
the U.S. Attorney General approve
6:42
a $1,000 reward for Ned's
6:44
capture, which meant bounty hunters
6:46
could now join the effort. At
6:49
Ned's home, about twenty miles outside the
6:52
Cherokee capital of Tahlequah, Ned
6:54
spent about a week recovering from his injuries
6:56
and then he got right back into the action. He
7:00
didn't want to leave the area where he had
7:02
grown up and where his family and friends lived,
7:05
but he couldn't stay on the same plot of land.
7:08
So Ned found a piece of land
7:10
about ten miles outside Tahlequah and started
7:12
building a new house for himself and
7:14
his family. And it wasn't just
7:17
any house. The outer
7:19
walls were double walls. Two
7:21
logs were stacked one behind the other
7:23
with sand packed in between. The
7:26
extra layers made the house virtually
7:29
bulletproof. And with the thick
7:31
logs and the sand, the house was
7:33
about as fireproof as it could be. Ned
7:36
created gaps in the walls on all
7:38
four sides to act as gun ports.
7:41
And the whole setup was about 800 feet
7:43
above sea level, so he had at
7:45
least a slight advantage in terrain. But
7:48
here again, Ned's fortified cabin became
7:50
something almost mythical for reporters of
7:52
the day and later authors of
7:55
Western lore. Some
7:57
referred to, quote, Ned's mountain, where
7:59
his This new house was built on a
8:01
sheer cliff with a 360-degree panoramic view that
8:03
enabled him
8:06
to watch for any approaching threats. Others
8:10
referred to his cabin as Ned's Fort,
8:12
a compound that featured walls six feet
8:15
high and a watchtower. Another
8:17
writer claimed Ned had built a fort of
8:19
stone almost like a small castle. Another
8:22
credited Ned with building an escape tunnel
8:24
with a trap door. Most
8:27
of the details were extreme
8:30
exaggerations or wholesale fabrications, but
8:32
the thing about the trap door will be the one to keep
8:34
in mind. There might have been some truth
8:36
in that one, even if a writer thought
8:39
he was just making up a fun story to
8:41
sell more papers. When
8:47
work was complete on Ned's new
8:49
fortified cabin, he lived quietly with
8:51
his family, tended his livestock and
8:53
vegetable garden, and worked in his
8:55
blacksmith's shop. When
8:57
friends and family gathered, he entertained them
9:00
with his impressive fiddle playing. In
9:03
some respects, Ned's life went back to
9:05
normal, but only in some respects.
9:08
He had once been a prominent member of
9:10
the Cherokee National Council and one of three
9:12
advisors to the chief, but those
9:14
days were long gone. Now
9:17
he was in his third year as a wanted
9:19
fugitive, and newspapers had invented
9:21
a legend for him that almost seems
9:23
comical in hindsight, but was accepted as
9:26
fact back then. In
9:28
the fictional crusade, Ned was
9:31
accused of robbing, raping, and murdering
9:33
all over Indian territory. Then,
9:36
the press reported that Ned ran a
9:38
crime ring that was like the Cherokee
9:40
Mafia with Ned as the godfather. The
9:43
supposed network ran a huge illegal
9:45
whiskey operation and became associated with
9:48
every violent act in the territory.
9:51
But probably the toughest part was that
9:53
there were some facts in the wider
9:55
story. Ned had a
9:57
really big extended family, and some of his
10:00
relatives were relatives became genuine criminals. The
10:03
truth of their exploits were added to
10:05
the fiction of Ned's and they were
10:07
all mashed up into one story. And
10:09
in December 1891, two more mysterious
10:12
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10:15
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10:17
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The farmer walked past the property of a neighbor
12:02
and found a deputy U.S. marshal
12:04
named Josiah Poorboy lying dead in
12:06
the road. Poorboy,
12:08
who was Cherokee, had been shot in
12:10
the back of the head execution style.
12:14
Close by was the body of Thomas
12:16
Whitehead, a government detective who was just
12:18
23 years old. He
12:20
had been working with Deputy Poorboy
12:22
to investigate the illegal whiskey operation
12:24
that was allegedly run by the,
12:27
quote, Ned Christie gang. Information
12:29
about the whiskey operation was allegedly
12:31
given to the lawman by a
12:33
known killer from Alabama. Therefore,
12:36
one newspaper reported that Poorboy and
12:38
Whitehead had been intentionally lured into
12:41
a death trap and murdered by
12:43
the Ned Christie gang. Technically,
12:46
it wasn't true, but it was
12:48
an example of how easily the story could become
12:50
muddied. It was later discovered
12:52
that the double homicide was committed by a 16
12:55
year old named Waco
12:57
Hampton, who was one of Ned's
12:59
nephews. Hampton was found
13:01
guilty of the murders, but due to his
13:03
age, he was sent to a youth reformatory
13:06
from which he later escaped. Another
13:11
Christie relative whom federal lawmen kept
13:13
an eye on was Ned's teenage
13:15
cousin, Little Arch. Nearly
13:18
three years ago, he was the boy who
13:20
had been shot by one of the lawmen
13:22
during Heck Thomas' raid. The
13:24
injury and the event had left him with a pretty
13:26
big chip on his shoulder. Then
13:29
a man named William A. Dare
13:31
accused Little Arch and his father,
13:33
Thomas, of attempted murder. A
13:36
Dare had been shot three times and he
13:38
believed the father and son were the shooters.
13:41
Thomas was identified in the press as
13:43
a member of Ned Christie's mob, and
13:45
it was another violent act that was
13:47
attributed to the Christie gang. But
13:50
the A Dare example was in more of
13:52
a gray area. William A.
13:54
Dare had been married to Ned's wife, Nancy.
13:58
William and Nancy had been married for less
14:00
than two years and they'd had a daughter
14:02
who died as an infant. After
14:05
that tragic episode, Nancy saw no reason
14:07
to stay in an unhappy marriage, so
14:09
she got a divorce. Sometime
14:12
later, she married Ned Christie. So,
14:15
jealousy could have been the reason
14:17
why William accused Ned's relatives of
14:19
attempted murder. But
14:22
it's also possible that it was a member of
14:24
Ned's extended family who did the shooting. It
14:26
can't be ruled out, but there's just no proof
14:29
either way. And the
14:31
love triangle aspect was good fodder for the
14:33
press. They happily reported
14:35
that Nancy was Ned's fifth wife,
14:38
which was meant to make him look bad. But
14:40
his four previous wives had all died. He
14:43
hadn't cast them aside for a new one, even
14:45
as some writers tried to paint him as the
14:47
Cherokee version of Henry VIII. But
14:50
if there was a silver lining in the press coverage,
14:53
it was that the nonsense seemed to
14:55
be reaching its saturation point. A
14:58
newspaper called the Tahlequah Telephone, which
15:00
had white owners, finally wrote, "...rumor
15:03
after rumor are only contradicted by
15:05
the previous one." The
15:08
two big Cherokee newspapers wrote little, if
15:10
anything, about Ned. Maybe
15:13
they recognized the absurdity of a lot of what
15:15
had been written, or maybe they had
15:17
bigger issues to cover. Two
15:19
years earlier, a few months before
15:21
Deputy Dan Maples had been killed, America
15:24
witnessed a seminal event. April
15:27
22, 1889
15:30
was the first official land rush in Indian
15:32
Territory. Lands that
15:34
formally belonged to the creek and the Seminole
15:36
were opened for white settlers. The
15:39
land rush, or land run as it's also
15:41
called, was the first of five
15:43
that happened in the territory over the next six
15:46
years. In
15:48
1890, in the middle of the Ned-Christie saga,
15:51
Indian Territory was officially
15:53
reorganized as Oklahoma Territory,
15:55
and the events became known as Oklahoma
15:58
Lowndrons. in
16:00
1893 was the one that Ned Christie and
16:03
others had feared since the introduction of the
16:05
Dawes Act six years earlier. That
16:08
one opens Cherokee land to white
16:10
settlement. But by then Ned's
16:12
story would be done. In
16:20
the Cherokee Nation, Ned Christie
16:22
still had lots of supporters and they
16:24
wanted to clear his name. But
16:26
short of Ned turning himself in to
16:28
face judgment in court, there wasn't much
16:31
of substance they could do. And
16:33
at the same time, they watched the
16:35
other three men who had been indicted
16:37
with Ned wreaking havoc on the territory.
16:40
While Ned isolated himself on his farm,
16:43
Charlie Bobtail, John Paris, and
16:45
Bub Trainor seemed to
16:47
prove that they were more justifiable suspects
16:50
in the murder of deputy US Marshal
16:52
Dan Maples. Maples
16:54
and two other deputies had been
16:56
sent to the Cherokee capital to
16:58
investigate illegal whiskey sellers. Someone
17:01
had fired three or four shots from
17:03
ambush and killed Maples. Bobtail,
17:06
Paris, and Trainor were three of
17:08
the top six suspects aside from
17:10
Ned Christie. At the
17:12
grand jury hearing after the murder, the
17:14
six men, though mostly Bobtail, accused
17:17
Ned of the crime. Eventually,
17:19
the three suspects who were indicted were
17:22
released and were free to go about
17:24
their business while Ned remained
17:26
under suspicion and was a constant target
17:28
of the US Marshals. In
17:31
the roughly five years since all that happened,
17:34
those three suspects showed why they were suspects
17:36
to begin with. In
17:41
October of 1887, six
17:44
months after the murder of Maples, Bub
17:47
Trainor and a few friends went into a
17:49
store, looked the clerk's keys
17:51
at gunpoint and threw him out. For
17:54
the next three days, the men
17:56
lingered inside, eating and drinking whatever
17:58
they liked. The
18:00
third day, they got drunk and got
18:02
bored and set the store on fire.
18:05
The store was connected to a house that
18:07
happened to be occupied. As
18:09
the women and children in the house ran
18:11
outside to escape the flames, Bub
18:14
and his buddies laughed and took pot
18:16
shots at them. Trainer
18:19
was tried for the crime and found not
18:21
guilty. The verdict wasn't
18:23
much of a surprise because Trainer's father
18:25
was a well-liked white man from Boston
18:27
who had married a Cherokee woman. After
18:31
the incident, Trainer got back into
18:33
the whiskey distribution business. The
18:35
same business he was in when
18:37
Deputy Maples went to Tahlequah to
18:39
investigate illegal whiskey distribution. Bub
18:43
Trainer was indicted two more times
18:45
for selling illegal whiskey, but there
18:47
was no record of him ever serving time. John
18:51
Parris had walked a similar path since
18:53
being released as a serious suspect. He
18:56
was also arrested for distributing whiskey, but he
18:58
was not as fortunate as his friend Bub.
19:02
Parris spent a year in the Arkansas State Prison
19:04
for his crime. After
19:06
his release, he never returned to Indian
19:09
territory and he was never seen again.
19:12
And then there was Charlie Bobtail. He
19:15
had been in the whiskey business with his buddies
19:17
Parris and Trainer back when Deputy Maples
19:19
and his partners came to town. After
19:22
Maples' murder, the bootleggers had accused
19:24
Ned Christie of the crime. But
19:27
a couple years later, there were allegations
19:29
that Charlie Bobtail and Bub Trainer said
19:31
it was their former partner John Parris
19:33
who pulled the trigger. Now,
19:36
none of the three are truly trustworthy,
19:39
but if they changed their story, it begged
19:41
the question as to why. There
19:43
were no good answers to the question, but
19:46
it actually led to a new theory. As
19:49
there was so much confusion and finger pointing
19:51
in the wake of the Maples' murder, Some
19:54
have floated the idea that Judge Parker
19:56
may not have summoned Ned Christie to
19:58
Fort Smith to arrest it. Or
20:00
charge him with the murder. Maybe
20:02
Parker wanted Ned to testify as
20:04
illegitimate witness about what he may
20:06
or may not have seen that
20:08
night. Maybe this whole thing was
20:10
even more tragic than everyone thought.
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21:17
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21:20
Had never met him because Ned had never
21:22
been in Parker's Court. So it
21:25
is within the realm of possibility that
21:27
Parker some and Ned only because he
21:29
thought Ned was trustworthy. But.
21:31
Ned assumed he was being told to
21:33
surrender and he would be railroaded for
21:35
the cream. When. Ned didn't
21:37
show up. Judge Parker and the
21:40
grand jury took it as an indication of
21:42
guilt. If this scenario was
21:44
true that it's possible that the whole
21:46
sad story was just a misunderstanding. Even.
21:50
Now, one hundred, thirty years later, Historians
21:52
and scholars can't agree on how
21:54
and why Ned Christie story unfolded
21:57
the way it did. But.
22:00
By eighteen ninety Two as the
22:02
land runs in Oklahoma where increasing.
22:04
The. Reasons why Ned Christie story unfolded
22:06
the way it did had become
22:08
irrelevant. Ned. Was the
22:11
only target/suspect in the murder of
22:13
Deputy Us Marshal Dan Maples. And.
22:16
The marshals. We're never gonna stop pursuing
22:18
him. The.
22:22
Raids against Ned Christie's property resumed
22:25
in June of Eighteen Ninety Two.
22:28
To Deputy Us Marshals Milo Creek
22:30
More and Joe Biden tried to
22:32
capture Ned at his home. There.
22:35
Were always several people in the cabin. They.
22:37
Were mostly women and children, but there
22:39
were usually a couple with guns ned
22:41
plus two or three others. Ned's.
22:44
Nephew Arts Wolf, who was known
22:46
as Little Arch was often their.
22:49
Three. Years earlier he was the boy who had
22:51
been shot in the chest by member of Had
22:53
Thomas policy. Now the boy
22:55
was a teenager who was in on the
22:57
accent. When. Deputies creek more
22:59
and bowed and approach the cabin on
23:01
June second. They. Quickly realized they
23:03
couldn't assault the position with just two
23:06
men. Accounts make it
23:08
seem like the deputies exchanged gunfire with
23:10
whoever was in the cabin, but the
23:12
details are slim. Either
23:14
way, the deputies were described as
23:17
feeling outmatched. Which. They certainly
23:19
would have been when faced with
23:21
a fortified defensive position that had
23:23
multiple defenders inside. They
23:26
retreated and live to fight another day.
23:29
For. Deputy Creek More that day arrives
23:31
Three months later in September of Eighty
23:33
Ninety Two. By. That time.
23:36
Five. And a half years had passed
23:38
since Deputy Dan Maples had been murdered
23:40
and Ned Christie had gone into hiding.
23:43
The. Other potential suspects in the murder
23:45
were long gone, and the sole focus
23:47
had been on Christie longer than anyone
23:49
could have dreamed. judge
23:51
parker and us marshal yo were
23:53
feeling the heat from political officials
23:55
to both finish the murdered taste
23:57
and bring on now notorious out
24:00
to justice. They had
24:02
sent multiple posses of various sizes against
24:04
Ned for more than five years and
24:06
they had received no results. And
24:09
it wasn't like Ned had fled the territory and
24:11
they were trying to track him through the wilderness
24:13
of the most remote parts of the country. He
24:16
wasn't moving from hiding spot to hiding spot.
24:19
He was right where he had always been at his
24:21
home. On
24:24
September 12, 1892, Deputy
24:27
Creekmore tried again. He
24:29
approached Ned's cabin with a posse of six
24:31
to eight men. As
24:33
with the other attempts, they had an arrest
24:36
warrant from Judge Parker and orders
24:38
from Marshal Yost. It
24:40
was early morning and there were six people in
24:42
the cabin who were eating breakfast. Ned,
24:45
Ned's wife Nancy, a stepson and
24:47
a daughter, and two cousins,
24:50
Colonel Arch Wolf and Charles Hare.
24:53
The lawmen surrounded the cabin and
24:55
Deputy Creekmore shouted for Ned to
24:57
surrender. Ned replied
24:59
as he had in previous raids. He
25:02
opened fire, probably from one of
25:04
the gun ports that had been cut in the thick
25:06
walls of his cabin. He
25:09
shot one deputy in the foot and another
25:11
in the neck. After
25:13
the opening salvo, reports say Creekmore rode
25:15
to the nearest store where he could
25:17
send a telegram. The
25:19
message to Marshal Yost and Fort Smith read,
25:22
send deputies to Ned Christie's. We
25:24
have him surrounded, but have not
25:26
enough men. Joe Bowers
25:28
and John Fields are wounded. Fields
25:31
will die. The
25:33
marshals reply read, have wired
25:35
everywhere for deputies. You will have
25:37
lots of help tonight. Hold
25:40
the fort by all means and get him
25:42
this time. Deputies
25:50
from Fort Smith, Bentonville and
25:52
West Fork Arkansas were making their way
25:54
to Ned Christie's cabin as fast as
25:56
their horses could carry still
26:00
hold up inside and two
26:02
lawmen wounded, one seriously, all
26:05
Deputy Creekmore could do was wait
26:07
for reinforcements. After
26:09
those reinforcements arrived, they took their positions
26:12
and prepared for what promised to be
26:14
a fierce gun battle. But
26:16
Deputy Creekmore discovered they had a problem. Ned
26:19
Christie was no longer there. He
26:22
had somehow slipped away. Maybe
26:24
he really had dug an escape tunnel. Or
26:28
more likely, he used the root cellar, a
26:30
feature that would be used in the final showdown.
26:33
For now, the posse left
26:36
Ned's property, again without satisfaction.
26:39
And again, newspaper accounts of the event
26:41
made it seem bigger and more devastating
26:43
than it was. The
26:45
Omaha Herald reported that the posse consisted of
26:48
60 men and the
26:50
chief of the Cherokee Nation had added 20 men
26:52
of his own. Others
26:54
would have seen that Deputy Fields was
26:56
mortally wounded, implying he would
26:58
be yet another death attributed to Ned
27:01
Christie and the other deputy would lose
27:03
his foot. Neither happened.
27:06
Fields survived the wound to his throat
27:08
and he eventually healed. And
27:10
so did the other deputy's foot injury. And
27:13
for Ned, the latest raid seemed to
27:15
signal a shift inside him. Something
27:18
had changed. According
27:23
to those who knew him in the fall of 1892, Ned seemed to be sensing
27:25
the end was
27:28
near and his time to die was
27:30
approaching. Ned knew
27:32
the lawmen would return and there seemed to
27:35
be a clear pattern of escalation that summer
27:37
and fall. At first there
27:39
had been two deputies. Then there was
27:41
a posse of about eight. Next
27:43
time, it would probably be more. And
27:46
at some point, no amount of fortifications
27:48
would hold them back. Ned
27:51
also knew he had seriously wounded at least
27:53
one deputy during the most recent gun fight,
27:56
but he had no idea if the man had survived.
27:59
If the lawmen died. the Marshals
28:01
would return with an army and maybe
28:03
the actual US Army. Even
28:05
if the deputy survived, he had
28:07
suffered a serious wound at the hands of
28:10
Ned Christie. That was enough
28:12
for the Marshals to come in force. Ned
28:15
had made a pact with himself that he
28:17
would never be taken alive. His
28:20
main concern now was for the safety of
28:22
his family. So far they
28:24
had been spared, but that didn't mean it would
28:26
always be the case. In
28:28
his experience, federal law enforcement could
28:31
be very unpredictable. Ned
28:34
shared his foreboding vision with his wife
28:36
Nancy. He asked her to
28:38
use her kitchen knife to cut off the
28:40
long hair he had always worn with pride.
28:43
They tied the bundle of hair up with
28:45
otter string, buried it on the east
28:47
side of their house and prayed over
28:49
it. Cutting hair
28:51
is a sign of grieving for the dead
28:54
in the Cherokee tradition. Friends
28:56
and family had encouraged Ned to
28:58
flee Oklahoma territory and save his
29:00
life. Ned told them
29:02
he wanted to die on his own land, around
29:05
his own people. And before
29:07
Thanksgiving that year, the vision
29:09
would come true. Next
29:16
time on Legends of the Old West,
29:18
it's the final showdown between Ned Christie
29:20
and the US Marshals. And
29:22
then the long, slow journey to unravel
29:25
the truth about the Ned Christie story
29:27
and continue the debate about his legacy.
29:30
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