In this interview I met with Douglas Dunn, who spoke candidly about the experience of growing old as a writer; discussed teaching and playwriting as ways for a poet to make ends meet; and reminisced about the publication of his first book Terry Street, and Phillip Larkin's role in getting it published. Dunn reads two of his new poems: 'The Teacher's Notes' at 10m02s, and 'Thursday' at 24m10s. Apologies for the poor sound quality at points.