Shawn Hardie chats with his friend, marketing executive Morris Martin. He discusses how he went from being an IT major at Drexel to ad agency executive (1:20) and his appearance on Will Smith's Instagram show "Dads Just Don't Understand" and the importance of being present as a father (8:05). After answering 21 rapid-fire questions like "Marvel or DC?" and "Martin or Living Single?" (16:40), he shares some of the lessons he's learned during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly on leadership and management (22:40), what he would tell his 21-year-old self (41:07) and his love for Bon Jovi (43:05).

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