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This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty.

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Hi, everyone, welcome to another episode of Let's

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Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You guys, be

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prepared, Be prepared.

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This is wild. Uh Tori spelling?

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Hi? Oh my god, I've never heard you say my full name.

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I know.

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That was so weird. No, it's usually tour. Yeah,

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I got you out of bed, very

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happy about that.

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Yeah, I want to I want to ask you because

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I'm curious because I know that you're like very thoughtful

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about how you present stuff

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and do things. You don't

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just do things randomly in your

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professional personal

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life, maybe a little random, questionable, much

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like me. So,

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why did you choose to do your podcast

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from your bed?

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Oh? So,

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here's not the thought out answer. It

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just happened. The first one we

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did, the first episod so at the Beverly Hills

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Hotel and the bed was the only

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option. But

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then I liked it. It felt intimate. Yah,

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I like it. Okay, so I'm gonna continue.

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But yeah, so for you.

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Being in the bed, it probably

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makes you because it feels more intimate,

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probably makes you feel safer, like you can be

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a safer but a little bit more raw and vulnerable.

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Correct. All right, So now

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now I approve of the bed. I want

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I should at your dining room table at the

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head of it. But at least you gave me one

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I did well, you know.

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So you and I very

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recently flew back from

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Pittsburgh together.

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We did.

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My friend has a plane and he

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was gracious enough because it was my birthday weekend

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to fly me there

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and fly a couple of us back.

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Thank you.

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Because we talked a lot, I

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kind of was like, yeah, here's all the

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points that we wanted to talk about, So we're kind

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of gonna relive some of the

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plane.

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First of all, that plain experience was

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amazing. Yep, that

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was so good. It's yeah, okay.

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So anyway, we were talking about

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our friends, probably some of our listeners.

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We'll remember.

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Lots of photos paparazzi photos

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of the two of us out

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and about I mean, well,

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yeah.

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We hit it very hard. Oh my gosh,

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Roxbury bar One.

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Wait, can I take it back to

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the beginning. Yeah, please do going

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out. Remember

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the rat party for the pilot

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I believe it was at Spago, and

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you and I went and got our hair done that day

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at the salon that was at the Beverly Hills

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Hotel. I don't remember

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that. We got our hair done and

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we went and I think it was at Spago.

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I know it was at Spago because there's

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more to this. We went there and

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at the time, I was like Brian, Brian, Brian.

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Wasn't there a time when I was like Brian, Brian Brian,

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But anyway, and

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he was going to go with us, and then he

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didn't end up and I was like spiraling,

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like I thought he liked. We didn't

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eat as usual, like we

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drank. I was underage,

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though, yes, so were you. Yes

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we both were correct. Listen,

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that's what teenagers do. You know,

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They sneak their parents sherry or

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like whatever is around the house. I'm kids.

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I'm not saying that you should be doing this obviously,

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but you know, especially not sharing

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well. I mean, but we were starring on a show.

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It was your show, basically you and Jason,

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and we were there as filler at the moment. But

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they didn't stop us from drinking alcohol at

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the cast party, and they were all

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excited, and I don't think anyone looked at anything

3:59

anyway. I ended up not eating

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and I was plumbing that, like, oh my god,

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Brian Austin Green doesn't like me. What do I do? What

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do I do? And I just remember

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we ended up in the stall at Spago

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and you were holding my hair and I was puking

4:12

up their infamous pasta. That's

4:14

how I know it was Spago. Yeah, and you

4:16

were just like there were noodles

4:19

just coming out and You're like, oh my god. Yeah.

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So I guess I did eat something but hadn't

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even. I just right and drank

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a lot and then I

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had to get home, and I feel like my

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parents wanted to ground me, but I was like, I'm

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on a hit show, like it's just like it just launched,

4:36

and like this is cool and like okay,

4:38

but I'm really just a sixteen year old

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girl, and now I'm being grounded because I puked.

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Fair enough that you got grounded fair

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enough. And I think I was

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seventeen and a half or just from eighteen on the

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pilot, so I should have been grounded

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as well.

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But even they tried to my dad

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probably was like, Babe,

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jam.

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Maybe we weren't. I

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wasn't hanging out at the manor as much

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yet yet. It was

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during season one and season two that

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I think I stayed at the manor equally

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as much as you stayed at my house.

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Correct, And we would often

5:18

walk into the manor. First off, two

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things that always stood out to me about the manor

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was a walking in and was

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it nan nanny you made

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the food? She always left like cookies

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for us in late the kitchen.

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Yeah, I remember this.

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She always loved food and

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she knew I was always hungry super

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late at night, so she always left me. She

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loved you, and I loved her too.

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She was so special and took such

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good care of me whenever I was there. She

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would like leave waters out for us

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and just really try to make sure that we were

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okay. So that's always very memorable

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to me. But then one of the times

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we went on the elevator to

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go upstairs, and do you remember the elevator

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doors open on the second floor and your mother

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was standing there staring at us in the elevator,

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and we we.

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Started laughing so hard, like

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we could not. She

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always waited up for us, but

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she was mad.

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She was mad we were later

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than normal and she

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was not happy about it.

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And she was right.

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The thing was like, we needed to at least call and

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let someone know that we were going to be that

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late or take security or like

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something.

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But I was petrified.

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But you were a year and a half older. That was

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your responsibility, right

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technically, but I had also never been

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out. I love that You're like we didn't

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call like she was like, it was both of us,

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but it was That's how my parents felt about

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Shan Like it was like literally, yeah,

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it was their kids, it was

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both of us were supposed to call it.

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We had a responsibility, and

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when neither one of us did it, Candy

7:04

would get upset. Yeah, fair enough that

7:07

she got upset. God,

7:21

those were like wild times. And those infamous

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photos of I

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said to Roxbury with Brian and

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Marky Mark flipping off the photographers

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and then just other ones of us walking

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out again laughing.

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I think you and I for two seasons

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did a lot of laughing until we didn't

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because of boyfriends. Fair

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a lot of laughing, a lot of

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laughing for the soul. I

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mean, we were best friends. We

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were sisters, correct,

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like hardcore sisters. And I

7:57

know your dad got really upset with me

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about something and

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I told this story when Brian I think, was

8:05

on the podcast and and I

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came to your house and security didn't really want

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to let me in because your dad was super mad at

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me. But your mom saw me.

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I guess I'm like cameras, so she

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told him to let me in, and then she waited for me,

8:17

you know how like you pulled in guard

8:20

gate and then he pulled the left, and I

8:22

pulled to the right and parking right there, and

8:25

the door would go into like the hallway and then

8:27

the kitchen right. So your mom was standing

8:29

there waiting for me again, and

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she said, I don't care what is

8:34

ever happening between you and my husband. You're always

8:36

welcome to my home and hugs

8:38

me and I she never said

8:41

that to me.

8:44

She was the favorite child, so that's that's okay.

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You were daddy's girl, fair, Yeah, you

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were daddy's girl. So

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we were you know, listen, if

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you were late, I was late. If I was like you were late, yep,

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because we were always together and

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and we were definitely late a few

9:02

times. Yes, And some

9:05

cast members didn't really like

9:08

that, which I understand as well,

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but I always got the brunt of

9:12

it you did because they're

9:14

not going to say something to the producer's

9:16

daughter, correct, And at the time

9:19

that is something that I didn't see right

9:22

because I couldn't you know, I was in it.

9:24

It was hard to see. And I prided

9:27

myself when I started that show being on time

9:29

because I was like, everyone's going to hate me. I'm the producer's

9:31

daughter. I have to be on time. And

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then you know, we all got comfortable

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and we got this big life suddenly

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that exploded quickly. Yes, and

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we were young, Like when you're that young, you don't

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have I don't think you have the mental

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capacity to fully process what's

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happening in a really healthy

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way. You can't. Possibly.

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We weren't developed. We were

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teenagers my kids' ages,

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you know, And I can't imagine the

10:02

responsibility that we had giving

10:05

to my kids, my fifteen six year old right

10:07

now, and like come to Harold and I'm like, whoa,

10:10

can we go back to the Brian market mark

10:13

picture real quick? So that

10:15

picture, like it was different

10:17

back then. You guys like paparazzi

10:19

didn't follow you everywhere. They

10:21

would be at like certain places like nightclubs,

10:24

restaurants, and they would say do you mind

10:26

taking a picture? They would ask you

10:28

usually when you came in or out, but that

10:31

day they were like ravenous because it

10:33

was the four of us. We were up in

10:35

the VIP room. We thought it was

10:37

blacked out windows correct, and someone's

10:40

like, oh, they're taking pictures. Were like, oh,

10:42

whatever, and we flipped them off all

10:44

four of us and the four of us at the same time because

10:46

we were like, they can't see this meanwhile,

10:49

full on picture like yeah,

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yeah.

10:52

And went everywhere, everywhere, absolutely

10:54

everywhere. There's only one other picture from nine

10:57

oh to and oho that I remember went everywhere

11:00

was Jason and I making

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out at like an after party

11:04

for an award show, and that thing

11:06

went everywhere too, and I was like, oh, I'm making

11:09

out with my brother.

11:10

This is not good. It was always

11:12

hot when that happened.

11:13

But yeah, so we

11:17

had a ridiculous amount of fun we

11:19

did. And again like sisters,

11:21

like best friends. And then I remember

11:23

you had We both got boyfriends

11:26

that ended up being friends and they

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weren't great, No, they

11:31

were not good. Both

11:33

had a lot of issues. They were

11:35

better to each other than they were

11:37

to us. Yeah, so good thing. And

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I think what we were trying to figure out on the plane is what

11:42

was the pivotal moment that

11:45

because it's like one minute we were friends, and then one

11:48

minute we weren't. Yeah, And

11:51

you know, I think from

11:53

my perspective as I was looking in now,

11:56

being an outsider, I saw that you

11:58

were swayed by

12:01

two certain individuals, and particularly one

12:04

and it.

12:04

Was I'm swear huh you know I'm

12:06

as swear. Yeah, yes,

12:09

my downfall. Yeah yeah, you were

12:12

always easily swayed.

12:14

And it was very frustrating

12:16

for me because I always used

12:18

to tell you, like now tour have an

12:20

opinion, like you're smart, you're funny,

12:22

you're talented. I loved you and

12:24

I respected you, and I wanted you to believe

12:26

in yourself as much as I believed in you. So

12:29

then seeing you like get swayed and

12:32

our friendship ending. But we on the plane, we're

12:34

trying to figure out what was the weak

12:36

point where you were able to

12:38

be swayed, and and

12:40

I kind of just went, I can't, I can't keep

12:43

fighting for this. And I

12:45

think it was your boyfriend. Really, I

12:47

do I think he was because he

12:49

was he was abusive, abusive,

12:52

and I, yeah, like very

12:54

believed physically. I remember we went

12:56

to Mexico with our boyfriends

13:00

pictures, and I

13:03

mean Mexico. You know you called me

13:05

crying, like from your room, and

13:07

you came to my room, and there

13:10

was a point I specifically

13:12

remember looking at you and saying, you have

13:14

to end it with him or I'm going to actually

13:16

kill him, Like I can't, I

13:18

can't stand by and watch this.

13:22

So I could be in jail.

13:26

And all I can think is that because you

13:28

you didn't break out with him, you you stayed

13:30

and you got tortured for a little bit

13:32

longer. But did

13:35

I wait, I'm trying to but we sort of

13:37

started drifting apart. I don't

13:39

know if that was it. I don't know if

13:42

you know, you started listening

13:45

to those other people. I

13:47

don't know if it was. There were so

13:49

many really interesting moments about like

13:52

that time in the show

13:54

and in our relationship, because there

13:56

was this whole conversation about what

13:58

to buy the crew for

14:00

Christmas as a cast, and

14:03

somebody, one of the cast members, suggested a

14:05

van that we would then donate to charity, like

14:07

we were used a van and

14:10

we would all, you know, donate like fifteen

14:12

hundred dollars for the van and then donate it

14:14

to charity in the name of the crew. And I

14:16

was like, I'll just donate money

14:19

directly to a charity. But I'm not I'm

14:21

not doing this to my crew, Like, yeah, what does

14:23

that get them?

14:25

Gets them?

14:26

You know, they want a party, they want T shirts,

14:28

they want hats, they want you know, a DVD

14:30

player if there were DVDs back then. Maybe they were laser

14:32

disc I don't know, but like or vhs

14:35

things Walkman Walkman's

14:38

But and I remember we ended up

14:40

still doing a party and the crew

14:42

was so thankful that they got to like

14:44

just hang out and let loose and

14:47

have free drinks and free food

14:49

and a DJ and like party and have fun.

14:52

But I know that that caused

14:54

a huge rift between me and three

14:57

of the cast members.

15:12

Let's all coming back, is it okay?

15:14

So tell me what's coming back to you. I

15:16

don't know. I remember that particular

15:18

moment that I was really conflicted

15:21

because I had everyone coming at me like to

15:23

be on this side or that side? Is like why? And

15:27

it was one against many

15:30

and I was young and

15:33

young you know what? Fuck that? Sorry,

15:36

I got easily swayed. It's

15:38

not about being young. I'm going to be accountable

15:41

and be like, yeah, I fucking bought into

15:43

it. So I was probably like cool, Van

15:45

rocks. I don't want to do the van. No,

15:48

I think we talked about it. I didn't want to do the van,

15:50

and it's just did the van happen? It happened,

15:53

did happen? Hm?

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I don't think I put money into the van because

15:58

I was I was very resolute

16:01

in treating my crew the

16:03

right way.

16:04

Like I don't.

16:04

I didn't need this feel

16:07

good moment of like, ooh, I've donated

16:09

charity. Like again, I do a lot of

16:11

charity work, and I donate a lot of money to

16:13

charities, and you always did and I always did. So

16:16

I was like, well, why don't you just find a charity

16:18

that you believe in and donate some of your paycheck

16:21

and then let's let a crew that's not making

16:23

the same amount of money, right that we make something,

16:26

get something that they're actually going to jury worked hard.

16:28

Yeah, you're right.

16:29

So I think that was a big moment. And then there

16:31

was another big moment where.

16:34

We skipped over boyfriends.

16:36

No we're not no, no, okay, there

16:39

was another because it all ties together. So

16:42

the other moment was when Jason

16:44

Luke and I did the cover Rolling Stone. Okay,

16:47

and I'm going to jog your memory. I

16:50

came into work, Yes, so do the boys. Yes,

16:52

we were all there. Yes, And I

16:54

was in my dress room and there was a knock

16:56

on my door and there were several cast members.

17:00

They dragged you into it as well. Me.

17:02

Yes, granted care, I

17:04

know you didn't care, okay, and

17:08

set me down and said

17:10

that I should not be doing covers without

17:13

the entire cast, that I should have said

17:15

no to Rolling Stone Magazine. And I was like, why

17:17

because you were the female, because

17:19

I was probably the one that they thought that would

17:21

listen. I don't really know they didn't say it to the boys

17:24

because I checked with Luke and Jason afterwards.

17:26

I was like, did you guys get harassed

17:29

about And I spoke

17:31

off for myself and said, you

17:33

guys are nuts. This is Rolling Stone

17:35

Magazine. I'm not saying no to Rolling

17:37

Stone Magazine, like there's no

17:39

way, Nor am I saying no to Fox

17:42

when they asked me to do publicity.

17:44

I'm saying yes. But that

17:46

was another huge moment I

17:48

didn't I was there.

17:51

I'm sorry you were.

17:53

Granted, it was three

17:56

like a wall in front of me, and you were kind

17:58

of like in the back, like sort

18:00

of standing there. You had this look of pure

18:03

fear deer call in headlights,

18:06

and.

18:07

I felt really bad for you.

18:09

But I also was like, Montana, speak

18:11

up for me, speak up, speak up, speak.

18:13

Up like I couldn't. I'm sorry you couldn't.

18:15

That's fine, Like I'm listen,

18:18

We're a lot older, we've been through stuff,

18:20

but you know, I.

18:21

Still can't speak cook for myself

18:23

sometimes. So yeah, so

18:26

at fifty.

18:27

So I'm not sure if it was those

18:30

two moments on set, if it was

18:32

your boyfriend, I can't recall

18:35

the exact riff, but I'm thinking all

18:37

of those things sort of collided at one time

18:40

then, and maybe it was just

18:42

so much pressure from other people that

18:46

you know, the friendship just dissipated

18:49

and then you gravitated towards others.

18:52

But here's the thing. You know, when

18:54

things go down you're in a bad relationship,

18:56

you have two types of friends. Ones that well,

18:59

they all say we don't like them. They tell

19:01

you. There's ones that will kind

19:04

of go along with it in front of

19:06

the bad boyfriend, and ones that are

19:09

like no. I

19:11

felt like that time, like

19:14

Jen would always be like

19:17

like screaming at him, and it put me in a

19:19

bad position. And

19:24

because he would afterwards take it out of me. You

19:26

know, she didn't have to go home with him. I did. And

19:29

I feel like you walked

19:31

the line of talking

19:34

me through what I should do, but

19:37

being okay to his face so that I didn't

19:39

get further verbillian

19:42

physically abuse. Yeah.

19:44

I mean you have a boyfriend that's

19:46

that volatile.

19:48

You handled it right because he likes

19:51

me, Yeah, yeah, I mean otherwise

19:54

he definitely would have taken it out on you, correct

19:57

when I'm not present to stop

19:59

him. And that was something

20:01

I didn't want to do, which many times I

20:03

called on you and he's like, you have to come to the

20:05

apartment now, and I did always, always

20:08

and get me. When

20:10

you were with it, I felt like,

20:13

was I still.

20:14

I don't know you weren't You were not really

20:16

present when I was with because

20:19

that was third season, and you

20:21

know, maybe maybe part of it was

20:24

I was in your house.

20:24

I was with you guys.

20:26

I slept over, but not a lot, and

20:29

I think I was hiding so much of what was

20:31

happening in that relationship. Yeah,

20:33

because it felt odd to

20:36

have lectured you and been like, I'm going to kill him if

20:38

you don't leave him, and then I find

20:40

myself in a very similar

20:43

situation as you did.

20:46

But you know, I got to be honest. I

20:48

also was like, how how is she not noticing

20:51

certain things?

20:52

You know? For me?

20:53

And especially because at that point in time, you had,

20:55

you know, gravitated completely towards Jenny, who

20:59

didn't have messy of a life, you know, or

21:01

seemingly didn't have as messy of a life,

21:04

and mine was for

21:07

sure messy. Yours was messy. It

21:09

might have just been easier to be with someone who

21:12

you know, appeared a little bit stay

21:14

more stable, if you will.

21:16

I don't think it was that. So what

21:18

was it? I think when I

21:20

was young? I think I it

21:24

was whoever was the alpha more

21:27

at the moment would sway

21:29

me right? And I think I

21:32

couldn't stand up for myself. I

21:34

couldn't. Yeah, I didn't

21:36

take ownership of anything. So it's like,

21:38

you know, nice, nice, nice to everyone.

21:41

But it's like, like you said, have a fucking

21:43

opinion about something, and

21:46

I'm sure I did. I just didn't.

21:49

How did I not notice what was happening?

21:51

Though? That's the key thing here, right,

21:54

because I mean, and there was a lot of

21:56

things to notice.

21:57

One was, you know, that had a severe

21:59

drug problem, correct, and when

22:03

when it went overboard, he was you know, pretty

22:05

abusive. And I would

22:07

show up to work, you know,

22:10

four hours late because I was wrecked,

22:13

I mean like physically wrecked, and my dad

22:15

would have to come and get me out of the house. And and

22:17

I've talked about this before on the podcast because it felt

22:20

very odd to me that like, no one I talked

22:22

to Jason about it, that no one like paid

22:24

close enough attention to each

22:26

other. Yea, yeah, and

22:30

I might be guilty of that too, right.

22:32

I paid very close attention to you. I

22:34

paid really close attention to Brian and

22:36

a Luke because that was you

22:40

know, my circle. And Luke and I had

22:42

our super combative moments, and but

22:44

it always ended up in like a loving moment. So

22:49

you guys would scream at each other. My

22:53

god, we would scream at each

22:55

other and then we would beg Yeah.

22:58

It was like a real boyfriend girl from relationship.

23:00

It was so weird or brother

23:16

infamous moment in the peach Pit.

23:19

Do you remember pants

23:21

down Day and what happened?

23:23

No, the fight outside that

23:26

started inside on the set, I don't remember

23:28

inside.

23:32

Yeah, it was like a you know, do

23:34

you remember that we would have that someone

23:36

would always do like pants

23:39

down, like pants the crew.

23:40

Nope, God, I'm gonna have to get

23:42

some crew members on here. You

23:46

would have days where it was like, you know, pants

23:50

down days. Cool. Yeah, So that that

23:53

I don't know that.

23:54

Started that that fight, because

23:56

I knew the crew was pretty irritated by it. And

24:00

and you know, Ginny always wore boxer shorts

24:03

underneath her skirts, like the Calvin

24:05

klinb men's white right,

24:08

So I didn't think it was a big deal that I did skirt up

24:10

day because she always

24:12

found on the boxer shorts.

24:13

But she didn't like it, that's

24:16

fine. But it just spiraled,

24:20

spiraled and spilled outside,

24:23

and uh, you

24:26

know, Brian

24:28

and I and you were like screaming for us to stop, and

24:30

you told the boys to help, and they broke us up

24:33

and held us back, and then you know,

24:35

we marched our separate

24:38

ways. But oh, I'm seeing it now.

24:40

It's kind of hot if I think about it right now. Stop

24:42

it. The entire thing got blamed on me, like

24:45

there was no there was no you're

24:48

right, yeah, there was no Like two people

24:51

got in a fight, two people yelled at each other, two

24:53

people said you know, horrible things to

24:55

each other. I had my hair ripped

24:58

out with grip tape, like there was I've,

25:00

you know, photos of it. I even tried to show,

25:03

like Paul Wagner, I was like, this

25:06

is what happened to me, Like are you kidding? But it

25:08

was.

25:09

I think at that point it was

25:12

so easy to blame me. You and I

25:14

weren't really tight anymore, and

25:17

so I think everybody felt that. There

25:20

were some people, I don't want to say everybody, there

25:22

were some people that felt I didn't

25:24

have this sort of protection of

25:26

the producer's daughter being my best friend.

25:29

It was it was like all of a sudden, I became open

25:31

game. And then

25:35

I heard an

25:38

interview that I think you did, and

25:41

somebody told me about it. I did not hear it, so

25:44

I don't want to quote you, but it'll jog

25:46

your memory.

25:47

That you said.

25:49

I feel like I was responsible

25:52

for Shannon getting fired to a certain degree because

25:55

I told my dad about the fight and

25:57

said something had to happen or whatever.

25:59

Do you remember that interview? I do, but

26:02

I feel like the fight wasn't

26:05

what led to firing.

26:09

I think it was a I would love to know

26:12

the time what because

26:14

where I said it came right after the fight. That

26:17

is that really? Brian said

26:20

that shortly after I would love a timeline all

26:22

set down.

26:24

That you guys all set down in

26:26

Paul Wagner's office, which

26:29

is totally a different day. Though totally

26:31

different day. Yes, absolutely, because it took time to organize

26:34

everyone, like your dad was on

26:36

a phone call conference call with that with you

26:38

guys, not with us. I wasn't invited. I

26:41

mean, that's what Brice said on the podcast.

26:44

You know, I'm pretty good with memory. I don't remember

26:46

it that way. What happened

26:49

that morning that it all went

26:51

down that day was, Yeah,

26:55

it was the makeup trailer. There

26:58

was you were late and

27:02

I am burst in correct, I know

27:04

I'm trying to protect people, and it's like, yeah,

27:07

no, I am burst in.

27:09

He didn't notice that my makeup artist was trying

27:11

to cover up all this regulation marks on my neck.

27:13

So yes, that was the day that I was four hours

27:16

late. And then he said, yes,

27:18

well, was that the day called me the C word and

27:21

a lot of other things. By the way, I love Ian you guys,

27:23

so yeah, they're like, like, we love ion

27:26

and there's no hard feeling. Many years ago you guys

27:28

thirty years ago. And also those things that

27:31

you know, people did not know. I did not

27:33

share, and so people did not know,

27:36

you know, why was Shannon four hours late? Like

27:39

I wasn't, like I said

27:42

earlier, when I was late, you were late. When you were

27:44

late. I was late because we always drove into work together. When

27:46

we were always together, and

27:49

then overs like yeah, and then

27:51

with.

27:51

The you know that time period,

27:54

if I was late, it was because I

27:57

was you know, injured

27:59

or trying to get somebody to like.

28:03

Get sober. There was an

28:05

assumption at the time was

28:08

that you were,

28:11

you know, out partying out.

28:13

Yeah, And that was the assumption

28:15

that they made without asking

28:18

you, like what's going on? So

28:20

I feel like, yeah, they but

28:23

that day he walked, that was the day. So

28:26

you came in on one side

28:28

of the trailer, he came in the other,

28:31

and we were all in between and the makeup

28:33

chairs, and that's the day

28:35

he said, you're scun t

28:38

And then he said, can't understand normal

28:40

thinking because we were all like what you

28:42

just said her, And then he

28:44

clarified quickly, can't

28:47

understand normal thinking. And I

28:49

was sitting there just it was terrified.

28:51

I was sitting in the chair. When I heard him

28:54

scream, I was like, oh my god. And

28:56

all I could think at the time is I

28:58

knew that was going to fire you up because you don't

29:01

take shit from anyone, so it's not

29:03

like you're going to be like, Okay,

29:05

You're going to come back, which is what I love about

29:08

you. And I was like, oh god, oh

29:10

man, what's this. Oh this isn't good, especially

29:12

because of me.

29:13

How fucked up I was like, and not drunk,

29:15

fucked up, but oh just not fucked

29:17

up. I had literally been up all night with

29:19

someone on crystal

29:22

mess crack like everything

29:24

he can put on his body, who then went

29:26

ballistic on me. I had an ear

29:29

drum that was like bleeding. My father was

29:31

freaking out. I thought my dad was going to go over there and

29:33

like murder him. So

29:36

for Ian to like come at me, for

29:39

no one to be like he didn't know, Hey, what are

29:42

his knops on your neck?

29:43

Like why? Why is your ear got

29:45

blood dripping from it?

29:46

Like for no one to notice, for no one

29:48

to be like, okay, hold

29:50

on, maybe this is something

29:52

a lot different. Maybe we should actually ask her

29:55

if she's okay. Maybe we should ask like, hey, what happened?

29:58

Like, you're four hours late, maybe

30:01

it was only three. I'm going to just boost it the top

30:04

number of four hours. And it really

30:06

messes up all of our days and to

30:08

you, you know, for Ian it was messing up

30:11

like another job he had to get off work to

30:13

go to another job, like a voiceover

30:15

thing that he had. Both right,

30:18

so I understood, but

30:22

I think when he came

30:24

at me like that in

30:27

that moment, I was just so upset

30:31

that somebody else was coming at me and

30:34

loosed another yeah, and that nobody and

30:37

particularly that your man was now yelling at me

30:39

and nobody was getting my back that

30:42

I.

30:45

Yeah, I was not having it rightfully.

30:48

So by the ways,

32:04

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