Kiara Jorgenson, Assistant Professor of Religion and Environmental Studies; Director of Environmental Conversation at St. Olaf College joins Paul in the latest “Let’s Talk!” conversation. They discuss the importance of place-based vocations, the essential value of relationships, expanding intersectional backgrounds of students, Christian mystics, attention, joy, climate anxiety, deconstructing evangelical Christianity, Jürgen Moltmann, Joanna Macy’s The Work that Reconnects Us, Ross Gay’s The Book of Delights, H. Richard Niebuhr’s Responsibility Ethic, Erik Erikson, Wesley Wildman, panentheism, and paradox.