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Hello and welcome back to let's Talk Later

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. I am your host , Capri .

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And I'm Jela .

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And today we are going to

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be talking about college

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life , college transitions

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, perspectives and

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all things surrounding that topic . I

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thought this would be a fun topic , even

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though Jela's nearly done with

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school .

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I know .

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I think it's important to reflect on

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where we've come from , where

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we were going , and

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just share with the people and

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provide some insight to

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maybe younger generations and older

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generations , with kids

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going into college and it's

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a big deal . So

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yeah , Jela , how are you feeling today

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on this beautiful what is this Friday

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?

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Yeah , it's a Friday . Yeah , I

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feel good .

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Nice , cool

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, ha ha ha . We

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just picked us up some Starbucks

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. Maybe one day they'll sponsor

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us or something you know , but until then

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, get you an iced

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pumpkin chai latte cream . Pretty

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good , if I say so , anyway

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, ha ha ha . So

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, um , jela

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, you are

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in your last year , right

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?

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Yeah , yeah . How's that feel

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? I

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don't know .

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Back to episode one . I don't know .

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Well , like I don't know , Like I don't

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know , I'm just like okay , cool .

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Are you proud of yourself ?

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No , like it's

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not that , like it's not my biggest

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goal , so I'm not like in

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that mindset where I'm like this is it yeah

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.

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So I know I'm not done , okay , yeah

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, okay , well , that's

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interesting , yeah , that

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just . I think that's insight

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to your kind of the way your mind works

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right , because even

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though , yes , this is not the end , this is

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not your biggest goal , this is still an achievement

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, like graduating

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, getting a degree . I

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mean not to everybody , don't get me wrong . Hey , some people

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don't care about college school degrees and whatnot

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. You know , and this day and age

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, with AI and certifications

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and crash courses and all these things

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and other ways and avenues to make money , then

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you know I get it , but

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it's still an achievement .

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Yeah , but this won't be my first degree

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, so then it's like you see what

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I'm saying . So it's like when I

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finished .

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I'm like , yes , I did it , no

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for sure , I get it

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Well , I'm proud , it's exciting .

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Thanks , man .

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She was saying yesterday . I

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hope what I'm saying is right . It's Sima Cum Laude

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, you wanna graduate ? Yes

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, as you know , with that

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honor , and I think that's admirable

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. Honestly , I

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won't lie , I'm just being fully transparent

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. When I think about Sima

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Cum Laude , I see white women , I see young

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white girls , and that sucks

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because I think I'm attributing

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it to the media

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and so usually when you

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see those news articles , they are

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young white girls that are

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receiving these honors . So

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shout out to all of the , to

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all young people receiving

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the honor of Sima Cum

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Laude or Honor Roll or

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just any high achievement . Just shout out to all

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of them Black , brown , yellow , pink

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, purple , blue . It's

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phenomenal . So

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let's journey backwards

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to I don't know when

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do we start talking about college or junior

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year ? Yeah , yeah

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, journey back there . What

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did it so like ? What

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was your dream school and

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what were , like , some

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of the things you looked for ? So

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I have to go somewhere

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with A , b and C if

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you did .

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Yeah , I mean my

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dream school . It was so crazy because

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when we first started talking about

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college , my

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college advisor I know

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that this is a very rare actually , because

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when I went to college and I met

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other people , they did not have

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college advisors . They

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were not like you're going

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to college . You know , pali was like you're going

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to college , like you're gonna take this class

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and in this class , we're gonna be with you for the

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next two years junior , senior year . We're

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gonna help you write your essays , we're gonna help you apply

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, we're gonna help you get those ACT

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and SAT scores in , and

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so they were very honest , whereas , like I

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know I'm not quite sure , I don't know if Aliyah

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had this , but I think some

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of my other friends didn't have college

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advisors . Their schools were like that's only

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all .

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I didn't have it when I was in high school .

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Oh wow . So

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really , like when I first went

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to my college advisor , I wanted

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to stay in California because I was

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like you know , I don't know anything

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else , Like I'm just gonna stay here , and

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me and you we went to go visit LA

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and San Diego and

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I knew those were not my schools , Like

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I just don't . I just didn't

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feel right . And so after

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that I started looking at HBCUs because

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I wanted to be around black people . Since

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I did go to a predominantly white school

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, I really wanted to go

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to an HBCU , or at least majority

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black . I

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knew that I needed to . I didn't wanna

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have a traditional dorm where I shared a room with someone

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, so I needed to see what those freshmen dorms

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looked like . Yeah , After

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that I was just like as

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long as it's majority black , then

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I get my own room , I'm good .

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Yeah , I do remember that . About the

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tours , what the rooms look like , I

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gotta share . I remember one dorm

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tour we did . You said the rooms

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were too close to the living room . Remember

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that one . It had like dark color carpet

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.

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Oh , wittier yeah

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.

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I was like , yeah , I don't wanna , I don't . I think

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you were like I don't . One of the schools there

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were so many different things with .

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JLo was saying but you didn't even wanna finish the tour

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. At LSU ? No , not

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.

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Loyola .

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Marymount .

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Yeah .

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LMU . That's what it was . No , because

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they were talking about oh , you're gonna go to church . I'm

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like , oh , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no

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, no , we're not even gonna go there .

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We can stop here , we can just leave .

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It's like okay , Definitely not .

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We are spiritual folks . We believe in a higher

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power , go so far as

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to say we believe there's a God , regardless

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of what God looks like , but

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just not super strict , religiously

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devout people . Although

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I was forced to go to church every

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Sunday and Bible school and Bible

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camp during the summers when

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I was younger , if it's not for you , it

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don't matter . I feel like you forced a

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child to do something . If it's

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not for them , it's not gonna stick , and it did not

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stick . So

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yeah , just a little note there . But

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yeah , that was . It was fun times , though

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I'll say from the parent perspective

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that it was I

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don't know . It felt really good to

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be able to be

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in a position to , for

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my daughter to go to school , that

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she could go to college and

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do something that

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I didn't do . I mean , I went to college . I

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didn't finish the full degree

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I mean when I say full , I mean the four

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year . But I never always wondered

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. I was like am I trying to live vicariously through

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her or what is this ? But it's

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just no , I just wanted her to have the

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things and

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experiences and opportunities that I didn't

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have and that was simply that . So it

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felt really good to be in

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a position to basically

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, with an employer , shout out to Stanford I was

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to , you know I was . I've

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been there long enough to where she is

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, you know , getting her tuition paid for . That's

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a huge boning

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and blessing . It's a large part of the reason that

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. I stayed and

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so , yeah

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, it's been interesting watching her find

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herself through these schools and these

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programs and experiences different things

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. So

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I guess , on the flip

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side , what would you do differently , like

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from the school tours to

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you know you ultimately

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moved across the country 3000

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and some odd miles away , you

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know . So the location , everything like . What

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would you do differently in that selection

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process ?

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Be more realistic with myself . When

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I was picking

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schools , like I

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remember I remember I was

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I wanted to go to University of Houston so bad

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I think

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. We ended up going to visit Texas

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Southern and then I

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was like no , this ain't it . Went to

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university , switch over to University of Houston because it was

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across the street . I

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got in , we paid , we

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did everything , but something

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was literally telling me like do not

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go , like this is not the school

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for you , and I was so

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scared to like tell you that because

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I was like , oh , we paid , like she's

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gonna be so mad . But

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like , looking at that now , I think that

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was my , like my subconscious

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or something bigger

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than me telling me that this is not

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the right time for you to leave . Because

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I ended up just like I

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think , like I told you you're like hey , it's

10:38

okay , like understand things happen . And

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then I just picked another school , just the only other school

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that was accepting like students like was

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Clark , atlanta , and I'm like whatever

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, like I'm gonna just go here because I don't

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have any other options . But

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I would have just stayed . I would just stayed home , probably

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went to like a community

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college for like the first two years

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, because mentally I was

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not ready , like I was so not ready

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to like take that leap and be by myself

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and be independent , that

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it just messed up a lot of stuff

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in my , like , college

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life , I guess . So

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just being more real with myself , setting

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more , setting lower expectations

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to yeah .

11:24

Okay , something

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you said strikes a

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question . Oh

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no , not not really a question , but just

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kind of like speak to that a little bit , because

11:38

you know you're you're almost done

11:40

with your bachelor's right and so , and

11:42

you did kind of bounce a

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little bit right , you went to a few different

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schools and then ended up at a two year

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and then now you're back . So at

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the end , talk a little bit about that , just because I feel

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like that's a valuable perspective

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and information , because you know you

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follow the normal trajectory , right

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, you either enter your four year and you go all

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the way , or you're a start at the JC and

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then you go , or we know , whatever . Just just

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you know , just given some insight , that

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it looks different for everybody .

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Yeah , no , yeah , I started off at a four year

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, but

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not to sit here and crap

12:18

on you know HBCU . But

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I just didn't feel supported at Clark Atlanta

12:23

. I was a psych major . I

12:25

honestly felt like they didn't

12:27

care . They kind

12:29

of were more about like business and like

12:31

media and stuff because , like their

12:34

alum were people that were

12:36

in the entertainment industry , so they catered more

12:38

towards those fields , I

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guess . And

12:43

I was also mentally

12:46

not there at

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Clark Atlanta and

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it just was . It was a lot , so I literally

12:54

basically went home

12:56

. I went home and dropped

12:58

out of Clark Atlanta almost . Yeah , like

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I just dropped out , I was like you know what ? I

13:03

can't do this , I don't know what

13:06

I'm gonna do . I ended up going to foothill , finishing

13:10

up at foothill somewhat

13:14

, yeah , I was struggling

13:16

there too Well , not as much , but like I

13:18

was having my ups and downs still with

13:20

like , really like extending

13:23

it out as much as I could because

13:26

of that fear of like , oh , I'm gonna have to go to like

13:28

a four year now and actually finish my degree

13:30

and stuff . And

13:33

then , yeah

13:36

, ended up in Arizona State again .

13:40

Yeah , yeah , oh

13:42

yeah , that's . That's a

13:45

big deal Like as far as like

13:47

knowing or

13:49

feeling prepared to go into

13:51

something , especially being independent , like

13:53

that transition from

13:55

I'm

13:58

in high school and I'm a teenager to

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look at me , I'm on my own

14:02

, like I'm managing I

14:04

mean , for the most part , I guess some parents and some

14:06

dynamics , the

14:11

, the parents or the adults , caregivers , whatever

14:13

Will manage most

14:15

of most of it . But then I think in

14:18

the , in the situation when

14:20

you're transitioning and you're

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going far away from you know family

14:25

and and Resources

14:28

, you you kind of become super

14:30

independent , like hyper independent

14:32

, where it's like you do have to do a lot

14:34

of the things on your own Because you

14:36

don't have , you know , anyone

14:38

that you know , you know around you

14:40

or that is immediately available , and

14:42

so that

14:45

for me . That was always scary for me

14:47

, because I feel like I wanted like

14:49

for a While

14:52

, like when you were little , I was thinking

14:54

I should just find a school

14:56

that has dorms for

14:58

families and Leave . Like

15:01

I wanted the same thing , like I wanted

15:03

to leave so bad , like that's that's

15:05

all , like I didn't even care about

15:07

where it was , I just wanted to leave , same

15:10

thing I was . I was trying to get away from

15:12

trauma . I was trying to get away from the people

15:14

and the things that had happened to me in those years . Following

15:17

right and

15:20

Got scared cuz . I was like what

15:22

am I gonna do ? Like I don't know

15:24

anybody . And I have a kid

15:26

like I think If I were

15:28

in your shoes in the same situation , I probably would have done

15:30

the same thing . But I

15:33

had you and you were little and you were

15:35

in school and you

15:37

know , even though a

15:40

lot of the people around me weren't

15:42

Great people

15:44

, there was people like your grandma

15:46

. I was like I can't take her from

15:48

her , like I can't leave that support

15:51

and

15:53

so Like

15:55

that . That that is definitely a big deal . In

15:58

the way I chose my school . I went to

16:00

Cal

16:02

State hey word , which I think they're now

16:04

Cal State East Bay . I

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guess they change , I don't know . I think so , but

16:08

in the way I picked them is they sent

16:11

me a frame and Certificate

16:13

and they were like you've been admitted . I was like , oh

16:15

, this is so nice Like they

16:18

, like this is such a nice gesture

16:20

, I'm going there and

16:24

I actually really liked it . I

16:26

won't lie , I like the people

16:28

, the environment . It was very diverse . The

16:31

teachers were amazing . I wanted to

16:33

major in dance and theater . Like

16:37

I don't even I get . I get the dance

16:39

piece . Let's do I have that piece . I will

16:41

always love dance . But theater when

16:44

I came from , I guess , I guess

16:46

because I mean , if you think about it , in theater you're

16:48

someone else , you get to be someone else

16:51

. And you know

16:53

, I've said in previous episodes I spent

16:55

a lot of my , a lot of my life masking

16:57

, being , you know , inauthentic

16:59

, not true to myself , because of ABCD , fg

17:02

and on , and

17:04

so I think that's what that was . But

17:06

it was cool . Like

17:08

I would go hang out with a couple friends , like

17:10

they lived in the dorms right across the street

17:12

and I would go hang with them and I

17:15

wanted to join the black student union and

17:17

I had all these dreams , you know , and I was like maybe

17:19

you know me and Jaila could move

17:21

into these dorms over here , like I was like

17:23

kind of trying to start thinking about a life

17:26

and Then , um

17:28

, I

17:31

Really

17:33

don't even know anymore . I think , honestly , I

17:35

I'm still trying to recover that piece of my life

17:37

because I don't really remember everything that happened . But I

17:40

know I got sick , I got the flu and

17:42

I really , really sick , and

17:44

then I missed half . I

17:47

don't know if it was a semester or quarter system , but

17:49

I missed half of it and ended

17:51

up Failing

17:54

and then went

17:57

on academic probation and then I think

17:59

the counselor at the time said something

18:01

like Honestly , because I got

18:03

that was the times

18:05

of where people actually got a lot of financial

18:07

aid and so I was getting like four thousand

18:10

dollars for a quarter , and because

18:12

I had a dependent when

18:14

I got sick , you know , you go on academic

18:16

probation , you lose that . And

18:18

so she was like the best thing

18:20

for you to do is go to foothill or go to a JC

18:23

or something you know , for a

18:25

you know a couple quarter semesters , whatever

18:28

, I don't know what's , you know time

18:30

frame , everybody on . But , um , and

18:32

then come back and I was like , okay

18:35

, okay , I'll do that , that makes

18:37

sense . But losing

18:40

that financial aid meant I needed to go to work , because

18:43

I needed to have money , because I was

18:45

, you know , paying contribute into the household

18:47

and I was taking care of you , and

18:50

Work just

18:52

became more important because

18:55

I had to live and

18:57

the household was toxic

19:00

and and and

19:02

a lot was going on there and I had to get

19:04

out , and so it was like school who

19:07

has time for school ? So all of those dreams

19:09

and plans like that that I was

19:11

, I was starting to have , they just Was

19:14

like , well , can't do that

19:16

anymore . So

19:19

it was . It was exciting to

19:21

just to see you

19:24

being able to do it and Things

19:27

. But I know it wasn't

19:29

easy for you either , because you know , like

19:31

you said , you weren't ready and there was

19:33

a lot for you and on you

19:35

too , because it's not like you were living by

19:37

yourself with all of this , this

19:39

newfound Support

19:42

and resources around you . If

19:44

anything , I feel like it opens you up to

19:46

things that you weren't

19:48

acknowledging about yourself

19:51

Previously

19:54

, which may have been destined

19:56

. You know honestly , because

19:58

if you think about it , sometimes

20:01

, what do they say something Well

20:03

, I still know how to swim . Ain't that embarrassing

20:05

? But you know , a lot of people

20:07

were taught to swim by being pushed into the pool

20:10

and I think that was

20:12

kind of it for you . You had to be pushed

20:14

into it to say , oh , hey

20:16

, whoa , like it's something bigger going

20:19

on here . But

20:21

I want to hear , I want you to share

20:23

. You don't have to name names back . You

20:26

had some very interesting lodging

20:28

experiences . Oh through

20:30

school oh my

20:33

god .

20:34

Let's talk a little bit about my dad .

20:38

Cuz cuz . It ain't easy for everybody

20:40

to roommate with people . I understand

20:42

that I don't think I've ever had a root . Well , that's

20:44

a lie , I understand . So , jaila

20:47

, enlighten us on the

20:49

roommate experience in college

20:51

.

20:51

Oh my god , starting at Clark Atlanta

20:53

, I stayed

20:55

in something called the sweets Um

20:58

and it was basically like two

21:00

Little rooms

21:02

with no doors so we had to hang up a curtain

21:04

rod to give us , like privacy

21:07

. But it was better than the traditional

21:09

dorm . So I was like , okay , cool , but

21:12

my roommate was so

21:14

dirty . She was so dirty

21:16

, she would literally have

21:19

like a bunch of trash piled

21:21

up and I'm like yo

21:23

, when is you gonna throw this away

21:26

? You know , I'm saying like it's

21:28

getting real weird in here . Then

21:30

we had a shared pantry and

21:33

this is how I knew I had to get out of here .

21:36

Not the goop .

21:37

My god , okay

21:39

. I used to eat terrible back at Clark Atlanta . I had

21:42

some goober and if you know what that is , that's

21:44

basically peanut butter and jelly in the same

21:46

jar . It's so good , it's so

21:48

good , but it's so bad , so bad . One

21:51

day I'm about to go make me a PB and J sandwich

21:54

and I open

21:56

it up and literally what was

21:58

the peanut butter missing , or was ?

22:00

it , the jelly missing . I think all your Jelly

22:03

was missing .

22:03

She literally took all the jelly

22:06

out of the jar and just

22:08

left peanut butter in it . Didn't

22:10

ask me if she could have some , didn't

22:12

ask me at all , didn't

22:14

let me know nothing . I sent a picture

22:17

to my mom and I knew that if I confronted

22:19

her about it we would have probably fought , because back

22:21

then I Was a hothead and I didn't know how to communicate

22:23

. But it was so disrespectful

22:25

and it was just like wow , like how

22:29

I'm supposed to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ? You took all

22:31

the jelly out my freaking jar , bro .

22:35

Like who does that like for , who

22:37

take all the jelly ? Or or

22:40

either one like not

22:42

even get some like remove

22:44

. I wouldn't have believed it if you didn't

22:46

send me a picture like I really would

22:49

not have believed it because I just

22:51

Sometimes I

22:53

can't fathom the thought of the audacity

22:56

that people be having . That

23:01

was , that was wow .

23:03

Yeah , and then when I went to Georgia

23:06

or when I moved back to Georgia and

23:08

I stayed in Aspen , my

23:12

first roommate she

23:15

was , she was dirty , she

23:19

had a lot of beef for her boyfriend and her upstairs

23:21

neighbor was a domestic

23:23

violence and I remember this one time

23:25

he was like beating her up or something

23:28

or they was getting into it and he

23:30

was like you gonna leave me on Crip or something like that

23:32

and me and my roommate just literally like yo , we

23:35

have to move . I have to move because I

23:37

can't sleep . I can't sleep at night

23:39

and I'm very sensitive to my

23:41

sleeping pattern and her boyfriend

23:43

was selling drugs out of our like room

23:46

and so the legal

23:48

student , no

23:51

okay . This was the very first time I moved

23:53

to Aspen , on

23:55

the fourth floor , yep , and

23:57

her boyfriend was selling which

24:00

will call it drugs out of our apartment

24:02

and like dudes will come knocking at like

24:04

5 am and I'm like , bro , I'm trying

24:06

to go to sleep . I can't sleep because my upstairs

24:08

neighbor is a gangbanging abuser

24:11

and I'm tired

24:13

and your boyfriend

24:15

is selling drugs , so this is not okay . All

24:18

right , so then I moved . They moved me

24:20

to the third floor

24:22

and she had a huge

24:24

dog , a huge dog

24:27

that she would lock in her room while

24:29

she was gone . She was the , she

24:32

was a .

24:33

Teacher , teacher . Yeah , she was a teacher , or

24:35

she wanted to be a brother or something .

24:37

Yeah , it wasn't even her dog , it was somebody else's dog

24:39

and it would bark all Day

24:42

, from the morning until night until she got

24:44

home to let him out and just bark , bark , bark

24:46

, bark , bark . And I'm

24:49

like okay , like

24:52

I Need

24:54

to move , because not only can

24:56

I not sleep because this dog is barking , but then

24:58

my neighbor was a producer

25:00

who made beats all night

25:02

so I could not go to sleep . I

25:05

could not go to sleep , and so this

25:07

was so much . They

25:11

moved me again to the fifth floor

25:13

. So now I had nobody above me and

25:15

and nobody on the side

25:17

of me either , and

25:19

I had the room to myself for a little while . But

25:21

then a girl from New Mexico moved

25:24

in . She was the politician

25:26

lawyer wanted to be and

25:28

. Things were good at first . Like I

25:31

was like , oh my god , like I might actually have a good roommate

25:33

. But then she started to slip up . Like her boyfriend

25:35

was like in the like Navy or something like

25:38

that and he was cheating on her and she was

25:40

stressed out , she was always complaining about him

25:42

and she didn't have any

25:44

food in the house and she would always make salmon

25:47

. She would always make salmon and

25:49

it was unseasoned and she would always use my pots

25:51

, in my pans and she didn't

25:53

know how to like clean up . So one

25:55

time she made oatmeal she made

25:57

oatmeal , use my pot , washed

26:01

it quote-unquote . I literally

26:03

go to use the pot and there's like dried

26:06

oatmeal in it and I'm like yo stop

26:08

using my stuff . Like stop it

26:10

. I literally bought baby locks

26:12

or I bought locks or something like that for

26:14

the Cabinets that only I had

26:16

to like magnet for , so

26:19

she would stop using my stuff like

26:21

Don't use

26:23

it . Oh my god at

26:26

all , don't use it . And then she

26:30

was only supposed to . She was only supposed

26:32

to use it for , you know

26:34

, she was only supposed to be there for a little while . That's what I meant

26:36

. Um , and then finally

26:38

she moved out and

26:41

like I was just like golly , like I'm good to

26:43

go . I didn't have a roommate for

26:45

a couple months again . Then

26:47

I got my last roommate . She

26:49

was a good roommate . I mean

26:51

, for the most part she was good roommate , yeah

26:54

.

26:55

Yeah , yeah , yeah

27:01

, that was getting those calls and

27:03

I mean , yes , it's . You

27:05

know , I would tell Jailer , like man , jailer , like you gotta , you

27:08

gotta learn to live with people , because sometimes

27:11

people need a little extra help . You know not , these people

27:13

grew up . They're probably not the clean . They probably , you

27:15

know , da , da , da . But

27:17

at the same time , I get it . You don't

27:19

touch my stuff , don't eat my food , don't

27:23

leave a big old dog

27:25

in your room all day

27:27

and , like you know , yes , yes , because

27:29

it's , it messes up the quality of

27:31

your life , because you can't sleep and Trying

27:34

to go to school and just all of these things . So , um

27:37

, yeah , ultimately she

27:40

ended up alone in her own

27:42

apartment . She said I can't do this living

27:45

with people anymore and she

27:47

got herself . Well

27:50

, we got her a one bedroom apartment

27:52

and , yeah , that's

27:54

, that's seemed to be the

27:57

better situation . But

27:59

then it came , jailer

28:01

, you , you do be just upset , because

28:04

then it was the upstairs neighbors mom

28:06

.

28:07

I had video footage . I had

28:09

video footage Again . I moved

28:11

to a one bedroom apartment by myself

28:13

, all the way across the street

28:15

from where I just came from . I

28:17

get there and I'm under domestic

28:20

violence again . I mean , like

28:22

they're arguing , they're beating each other up , they

28:24

slamming doors all through the night

28:26

, like I . This is when I started buying

28:28

myself , um , the , the like a

28:30

headphone , sleeping band

28:33

so I can go to sleep at night . But Like

28:36

, come on , I'm trying to watch tv and I

28:38

hear you're louder than my tv . So , yeah , I

28:40

complained to my leasing office and they

28:42

moved me . We're

28:45

at , the police called . I guess I

28:47

literally called security . The

28:49

police came and they would not answer

28:51

the door . Like all this stuff happened

28:53

. And then the leasing office . Because I remember I called

28:55

the leasing office and I'm like , hey , can you guys please

28:58

send somebody up there ? I'm trying to go to bed

29:00

. I got work . This is when I was working and I had

29:02

to wake up at like 5 am . I

29:04

have to be up at 5 am . Please

29:06

tell the people just to be quiet . Give me three

29:08

nights out the week . I don't care if you beat each other up on the weekend

29:10

. Do what you want to do then they support

29:13

domestic violence . Yeah , but hey , but

29:16

then they told me to call the police because this wasn't

29:18

something that concerned them or something like

29:20

that . So did not call the police . Even the

29:22

police was like , oh well , they're not answering , so there's nothing we

29:24

can do .

29:26

That's so crazy . I don't , yeah , and

29:28

that's what ticked me off . We , we tried

29:31

to get legal aid and we got a little bit

29:33

of help , but not really nothing like that . Just

29:35

because it's like how can you say as the

29:38

, the property manager or leasing

29:41

Office , whatever

29:43

, like , the well-being of tenants

29:45

in your property isn't your

29:48

concern for one , and

29:50

that means the , the poor people getting

29:52

getting Beed

29:55

up , whatever was happening , and then

29:58

the tenant below and then he tenants around

30:00

you , like that's Definitely your

30:02

concern , that's the experience of your tenants

30:04

, that's that's yeah

30:06

, but anyway , that's neither here nor there

30:08

. Um , I

30:11

don't think I've ever had those issues , but I did have

30:13

some neighbor issues , like not in college

30:15

, like I didn't yeah , I didn't stay in college , but

30:17

um , just living

30:19

in apartment complexes , right , people with heavy

30:21

feet and sound like they bowling and and playing

30:24

Um in

30:26

a mariachi band all night , um

30:28

, all of that kind of crazy stuff . But

30:30

um , we had these one neighbors

30:33

that they lived right above

30:35

us . I don't know if you remember when we was um

30:37

on

30:40

Coleman . Now , those were

30:42

the people playing , bowling and and and

30:44

and . Uh was your square

30:46

dancing at night and

30:49

most interesting group of people living up

30:51

there , if I remember . But no , whatever

30:53

. Um on in

30:55

Palo Alto , where the lady would

30:58

work out on the stairs , huh

31:01

, in Palo

31:03

Alto , where the lady would work out on the stairs

31:05

and , um , they

31:08

would water their . They had kids and a dog

31:10

and they would water their plants and the right

31:13

on the patio and the water would drip down

31:15

and I thought it was raining and it was all in my

31:17

head and they're watering plants right up , but it

31:19

was just yeah that was . That

31:21

was absolutely ridiculous . And

31:23

then we finally moved into a town home where we had no

31:25

one up or above or below

31:27

us , and that was , yeah , finally

31:30

good .

31:31

Finally .

31:32

But , yeah , jaila has some trials and

31:35

tribulations with the roommates , um

31:37

, and she is going back into a roommate situation

31:40

, one which I'm

31:42

sending all the good vibes and love for

31:44

, because it's going to be boxing .

31:46

Yes , that's it

31:48

.

31:49

Another question but it's someone

31:51

that I feel like this will be better because

31:53

you know , you trust and you have an open

31:55

line of communication so

31:57

you can provide feedback , and

31:59

vice versa , she can do the same

32:02

. So I have , I have

32:04

, high hopes for this , this

32:06

situation , because

32:09

I can't even room with my own mother

32:11

. I'm gonna tell you that and be honest , um

32:13

, and I mean , this

32:15

is not a roommate situation with my husband , even with

32:17

him . It's just we have our back and forth

32:20

of , and you didn't do this Right

32:22

, like if

32:25

anybody this , this , resonate with you . Just

32:27

give , give a little . Should you to comment

32:29

or something ? Um , you know anybody

32:31

who don't watch the backs of pots ? That

32:35

kills me . I

32:39

don't understand it , and that's been we've

32:41

been , I think , arguing back and forth about

32:44

that for at least six years and

32:46

, um , I gave up . I just

32:48

grabbed the pot , not just again and wash

32:51

it again , because , yeah

32:53

, I'm not going to go into that any further , but

32:55

that's yeah . Anyway , check the back

32:57

of your pots if you live with somebody , to see if they

32:59

work , if they wash the backs of the pots

33:02

, um

33:04

, so , yeah , jumping back in , um

33:06

, did

33:09

you ever , jaila , did you ever

33:11

feel ? I think you did . But you know , talked to us

33:13

about filling homesick Like

33:16

how was that for you throughout

33:18

you know your years away in school

33:20

.

33:22

Okay , let's say this when I

33:24

was at Clark Atlanta , I

33:26

did not want to be there , I wanted to go home

33:28

and I was super homesick . I'm like , yeah

33:30

, this ain't , this ain't going to work , and

33:33

I ended up just going home . Yeah

33:36

, I just left , I

33:38

went and got my stuff and I went home . Um

33:41

, but then when

33:43

I lived in Aspen , I didn't

33:46

feel as homesick . Um

33:48

, once I started , once

33:50

I moved to the fifth floor and you know

33:52

, I started making like real friends

33:55

and like real connections and like kind of building

33:57

my own family . Um , to

33:59

the point where , like , atlanta started to feel like

34:01

home and when I would come

34:03

home for like Thanksgiving or something like

34:05

that , I would be homesick about

34:07

Atlanta . Um

34:10

, I can't wait to go back . Like I miss

34:12

my friends and like my freedom . Um

34:15

, yeah , but I'm

34:17

the type of person where if , like , I feel homesick

34:19

or something is telling me to do something , I'm going to

34:21

just do it . So I don't really think I give good

34:24

advice for people who miss home . Yeah

34:26

, I'm just going to do it .

34:28

Yeah , I mean but that was advice , because

34:30

you said that it changed once

34:32

you started to build connection

34:35

and community . Um , because

34:38

, yeah , like I mean and

34:40

even with that you can be homesick , but , um

34:42

, I I'm of the belief

34:44

that like relationships

34:46

and friendships are

34:49

truly very , very important . Um

34:52

, because you

34:54

know you can only , you can only

34:56

be so many versions

34:59

of yourself with one person

35:01

or with two people . You know you have your

35:03

relationship with your mother , you know

35:05

some with their , you know not some with

35:07

it , with your father , with your sister , siblings

35:10

, you know all of that type of stuff . Um

35:12

, but I feel like if you don't have friendships

35:15

like there's this , this , like a missing

35:17

component , almost like Like

35:20

you need people to to

35:23

where you can , you can just be kind of , just be just

35:27

just a friendly with . Like you know

35:29

you and I have our relationship , um

35:33

, and I think we can . I

35:35

mean , I feel like we can be pretty authentic around each

35:38

other , but I'm your mom

35:41

and you know it's different

35:43

than having friends where you can

35:45

. You know you can turn up or you can be

35:47

crazy or you know whatever with . So

35:49

it's just really important . I value

35:52

friendship so much because it does , I

35:54

feel like , play a vital role in um

35:57

. You know how we live out

35:59

our lives , so

36:01

my little piece there

36:03

, um

36:06

. So I mean speaking of

36:08

like advice and guidance . So you have

36:11

people and I'll share you

36:13

know , a perspective as well

36:15

. But you know you have people who are probably

36:17

you know

36:19

it's still in high school and our things starting to think

36:22

about college and what they want to do

36:24

after . Like what you know

36:26

gems , would

36:28

you get ? Provide them , you know , as they're

36:30

kind of thinking about

36:32

what adult life will

36:35

look like for them and transitioning out of high school

36:37

.

36:39

Um , if you don't know , don't go . That's what I say . I

36:42

tell Sky that too . Because guys like , oh , I don't know what

36:44

I want to do , I don't know what I want to do , I

36:47

don't know , like , what I want to major

36:49

in and honestly , take

36:51

a gap year , like there's nothing wrong with

36:53

starting at your own pace

36:56

or , you know , are taking a couple of classes at

36:58

a community college and getting

37:00

just work experience and stuff like

37:02

that , like I think

37:04

that's always like the biggest

37:06

thing that people

37:08

get lost at . They just think like , oh , I'm just going

37:10

to go and I'm going to pick a major

37:13

and I'm going to work towards this major and if I don't

37:15

like it I'll change it . But that screws

37:17

you up in itself because then you're taking

37:19

classes they have nothing

37:21

to do with the new major you're

37:24

wanting to like go into . Um

37:26

, and then you just wasted money and time

37:29

and effort on classes that you didn't even need

37:31

. So do

37:33

a little self discovery and then

37:35

you know , once you figure that out , because

37:37

you might find out that college isn't even for

37:39

you . You might find out you want to be a real

37:41

estate agent and you got to go to

37:43

a whole different path

37:46

to become that , and doesn't even involve

37:48

college . So you know , self discovery

37:50

first .

37:52

Yeah , that makes a lot of sense and

37:55

that is true . I mean , yeah , just you

37:58

know , like I said earlier , just what's

38:00

for you , because what you want

38:02

and what looks and feels

38:04

good for you is going to be different than whatever

38:07

a handout or one page pamphlet

38:09

you know is going to tell

38:12

you . So , definitely make the

38:14

journey one that is personal for

38:16

you and within your reality

38:18

. Right , I

38:21

know , for me

38:23

, I think it's still , it's definitely

38:25

generational too . I think these

38:27

generations that are coming up behind

38:29

even you are looking at college

38:31

a lot different , Like I

38:33

feel like probably less so than

38:36

you know the generations

38:39

before Because

38:41

, again , there are so many other avenues

38:43

. But for me

38:45

, I feel like , like

38:48

even right now I'm in this , I'm in this very

38:50

, very challenging

38:52

phase where I'm

38:55

like what next ? Because I've been , like I

38:57

said , I've been doing HR for 10 years

39:00

before that you know , kind

39:02

of like project program management

39:04

, and I

39:07

feel like I'm this completely different person

39:09

now , Like I don't even feel the same as

39:11

I felt three months ago , Like

39:14

I feel like I am so different and

39:16

as far as like what I want and what feels

39:18

good , and

39:21

I just don't know how to really

39:23

reach it , because I'm like , do

39:26

I need to go back to school ? So

39:29

that's the first thing , because when I'm looking at these

39:31

job descriptions , right , and I'm looking through

39:33

different postings

39:35

, it's like you know , bachelor's

39:38

preferred , bachelor's desired

39:40

, bachelor's required , you know , and I'm like

39:42

, well dang , you know , I have all this experience

39:44

, almost , I mean

39:46

two decades worth of experience but I

39:48

don't have a four year degree . So is that

39:50

going to keep me stagnant

39:53

? Is that gonna keep ? Is that gonna hold me

39:55

back from , you

39:58

know , getting these opportunities

40:00

to grow , or is there

40:02

something that I'm missing because

40:05

I'm stuck in that mindset of you have to have a college

40:07

degree in order to make X amount of dollars

40:09

. You know , and I

40:12

think back to I had a Reiki session

40:14

. For those you know , Reiki is the

40:16

movement

40:19

of energy through your body and it

40:21

can be done . You can do it on yourself

40:23

, you know , if you have the practice and the patience

40:25

and the connectedness , or

40:27

there are Reiki masters and practitioners

40:30

who can do

40:32

this on you , and it's basically to find out

40:34

where energy is trapped

40:36

in you and help move it through your

40:38

body so that you can think , feel

40:40

and operate more clearly

40:42

. And so I had

40:44

a session done in

40:47

Antioch at Abundance Well Spa , hey

40:50

, Daphne , and

40:53

she was telling me that she's

40:55

. You know , there's also these people who

40:57

are very intuitive and very in touch with

40:59

energy and spirit and

41:02

just the world

41:04

around them , and so they receive sometimes

41:06

what's called downloads and it's like messages

41:08

from , you know , spirit

41:11

, guides , ancestors , whatever , whatever

41:13

you wanna call it . And she had told

41:15

me I don't believe what

41:18

you're going to do will require

41:20

you to go back to school and

41:23

I , ah

41:25

, like it

41:28

was interesting to hear , but I hated

41:30

hearing it at the same time because I still had so

41:32

many questions Like that's one of those profound

41:34

things , like what you're going to do , does

41:36

it ? But what is it Like

41:39

? I just , you know , I'm like I

41:41

don't know . Maybe that's to my detriment , but

41:44

I've always been kind of the person that just I

41:46

just want the answer . I just

41:48

want to know , instead of have to go

41:50

through the experience , because

41:53

as I'm going through the experience , I'm

41:55

constantly questioning is this the right

41:57

way ? Is this the right thing ? Is

42:00

this the right , you know , is this the right passion ? I turn around

42:02

and try that . And so

42:04

I'm at that point in

42:06

my life of where it's like I

42:08

truly , truly , truly , truly , truly

42:11

do not want to do anything that

42:13

doesn't feel good , If

42:16

it doesn't vibe with my

42:18

energy and my spirit . I don't wanna

42:20

do it . And so that's hard

42:22

when , like I said , I'm just

42:24

trying to figure out what's next . And

42:27

I asked you know , I'm going

42:29

through these courses and

42:32

I'm asking myself the questions like

42:34

what makes me happy , what

42:36

invigorates me , what

42:39

do I enjoy ? You know , what

42:41

about this world breaks my heart ? And

42:43

I'm answering those questions , but

42:46

it doesn't really put

42:48

it neatly into a package and I

42:50

think I just probably just need to be okay

42:52

with that , that it's not a neat package

42:55

and I need to remove

42:57

the I don't know if you'd call it

42:59

maybe the American standard of single-mindedness

43:02

, like you can only be this

43:04

thing Like , oh , like

43:06

what was that ? Was that Ray J or Soulja

43:09

Boy or somebody had

43:11

? Like all of these business ventures Like they

43:13

made a Ray J . Was that , Ray J ? And

43:16

they were like laughing , like why are you

43:18

doing all of this stuff ? Like you're just doing so many

43:20

things you know , and it's like

43:22

what's wrong with that ? What's

43:24

wrong with being interested in tech and

43:27

wanting to do gymnastics

43:29

, and wanting to teach kids how to swim and

43:32

wanting to I

43:34

don't know drive trucks ? You know

43:37

? Like what's wrong with that ? And

43:39

in my head they're like , even

43:41

though I say what's wrong with that , my

43:44

standard thought is there

43:46

is something wrong with that . Make up your mind , pick

43:48

something you know , Because if

43:50

you ask me what I enjoy , I could name five

43:52

different things that have nothing to do with the other . So

43:55

I think that's the hard

43:57

part for me . What

44:01

do you think about that , Jaila ? Like I know

44:03

you have a pretty much defined

44:06

path forward , but like , do

44:09

you think that you'll

44:11

shift at all ? Like , tell me , well , tell the people

44:13

, what your path forward is , and then , like , do

44:16

you think you'll shift and want to like dip your

44:18

hands in a bunch of different things , or yeah

44:21

, well , you know

44:23

, just looking at my process

44:26

, or the steps

44:28

and changes I've made throughout my entire

44:30

life At first , when I was younger , I wanted to be an actress

44:32

.

44:34

Yeah , you ruined that when you didn't

44:36

take me to . You didn't you should have found a

44:38

way to pay for that Disney stuff ? Okay ?

44:40

You should have found a way . Thank you for saying that , because do

44:42

you hear this , Jaila ? I ruined it because I didn't

44:45

have iron funds . I didn't have no money

44:47

now .

44:48

We could have been a star .

44:49

We could have been . You could still be a star . I

44:51

am a star already . Go to LA , no , thank

44:53

you . I don't want to be that anymore .

44:55

You look Okay , so I want to be an

44:57

actress . And then I changed

44:59

to God , I

45:02

think in high school I was like I want to be

45:04

a psychologist . And

45:07

yeah , I think in

45:09

high school I was like , yeah , I just want to be a psychologist

45:11

, I want to help people , I want to give back to people . Then

45:14

I wanted to be an academic advisor because

45:16

I realized how much mine helped me . But then

45:18

I was like , eh , eh , yeah

45:21

, it changed quite a bit . So I know

45:23

that now , where I'm at , I still want to be

45:26

a therapist or a psychiatrist

45:29

I don't know , whatever one comes first , I guess

45:31

and

45:33

I also want to help

45:35

kids . I also want to be

45:39

a therapist for people in prisons

45:41

, like I don't know why . But

45:43

basically I

45:45

have a lot of plans around therapy and

45:49

giving back to people who need therapy . But

45:51

I also want to own a strip club . So I'm

45:53

pretty sure I'ma dip my toes into a lot of things . I'ma

45:55

be like the next Ray J .

45:58

You did say that I want to own a strip club . That's

46:00

so funny . So before you , before

46:02

I ask this first question , I mean the

46:04

second question did you see

46:07

the clip ? There

46:10

was this guy and he said that

46:12

his profession he was a Bible teacher

46:14

, but he's

46:16

saving up to own a strip club . Have

46:19

you seen that ? That's

46:21

probably one of the most backwards thing , hey

46:23

, single-mindedness , why he can't teach the

46:25

Bible and support the strip folk they

46:27

might be stripping to , for the Lord

46:30

the Jesus songs . We don't

46:32

know , that ain't our business , but

46:34

anyway , what

46:36

, why

46:38

, why a strip club

46:40

?

46:41

I don't know . I think it's the environment . There's

46:44

a lot of money going around , big booties

46:46

, females

46:49

just doing their thing

46:51

, dudes getting a

46:53

money took oh , I love

46:55

to see it .

46:56

Oh , my God .

46:57

Yep , I love that . I love the nightlife

46:59

too , though . Okay , but I know I

47:01

won't be able to be a part of the nightlife forever cause

47:03

I'ma get old , so it's always gonna

47:05

live on in my name .

47:08

Yeah , yeah , I don't

47:10

know if you could say that I feel like there are older

47:12

people who are still Not me .

47:14

About the nightlife , not me . Oh

47:16

so about your mom ?

47:17

I am not Grandma , I am not

47:20

talking about my mother , because I don't think

47:22

she's in the night life

47:24

anymore .

47:25

I don't know actually . Let me ask her she's really

47:28

going she's old and sitting at house all day .

47:30

Yeah , with daddy , let me show

47:32

you . Oh , so anyway , that's

47:37

just interesting and I don't

47:39

aspire to own a strip club , but

47:42

I do like the nightlife . There's

47:44

something about the energy , the

47:47

freedom , the like , you know , people

47:50

just let loose and just vibe out . You

47:54

know , I wish , I would love

47:56

for us to have a space where we can all do that safely

47:59

and , you

48:01

know , nobody gets any crashes or anything crazy

48:03

. But

48:06

it's a feeling Like I would

48:08

love to own

48:11

a dance studio and

48:14

have events like at night , like

48:17

you know , different kind of like single

48:19

, bring people together . Like my thing is

48:23

, whatever I do , I want a component

48:26

of bringing people together . Like building

48:28

community for me is so important . And

48:30

so , like that dance studio

48:32

, like I'd want it to be big enough , like

48:34

I'd love to like buy somebody's old

48:37

big mansion and like renovate

48:39

it to where there's like a yoga room

48:42

, a massage room , like

48:44

different rooms where different , you know , practitioners

48:49

can do whatever they need to do and

48:51

those rooms have a childcare center

48:54

, have a sauna , you know just all

48:56

of the space and then like also

48:59

utilize that space . Like I said , free , different events

49:02

, you know , like those painting sips and

49:04

things like that . Like I would love

49:06

to have something like that , like that's

49:08

my like , that is my

49:10

like end goal , like life

49:13

has completed , like I

49:15

have that is success . When I can finally

49:17

reach that . So

49:21

yeah , that's I don't

49:24

know . Put that out there , manifest that

49:26

for me everybody . So

49:30

yeah , back to the college

49:32

transitions . I

49:35

think I had wanted to ask you about

49:38

like

49:40

, like in , like into it . So

49:43

you , when you first

49:45

started in

49:47

Clark , when

49:51

you first started at Clark , you

49:54

were going to in-person classes . Then COVID

49:56

hit right and everybody was sent home , sent

49:59

online with the , and I don't think

50:01

you ever returned back in-person

50:03

, right ?

50:04

No .

50:05

And that was your preference . So like

50:08

I don't wanna talk a little bit about that , because I

50:10

feel like I'm the opposite , Like I would

50:12

so much rather be in-person in

50:14

class than online .

50:17

No , I'm just not . I don't got the attention span

50:19

to be sitting there listening to you talk . I'm

50:22

probably just not gonna show up , so

50:24

might as well just do it on my

50:26

own time , and I don't like when people

50:29

tell me what to do . So , you know , I feel

50:31

like when you're online it's like

50:33

hey , can you do all this for us ? And if you don't

50:35

, then you don't . So yeah

50:38

. My time , my path , yeah

50:41

.

50:41

Let me explain . I don't feel like I have the discipline

50:44

, like I need to be held accountable , like if I

50:46

have to come to class and turn something in , I'm

50:48

gonna do it , versus you

50:51

have to like really be organized To

50:54

write down due dates and contribute to those

50:56

online discussions , and it's

50:58

just for my brain . It's just too many things

51:00

. Like I need the accountability of being

51:02

in-person , like before

51:04

you walk out of this classroom , here's

51:07

the homework , you know , here's what's due

51:09

next week , and it's like okay , but

51:11

like online , I feel like you have to be the

51:13

teacher , like you kind of have to write

51:16

everything out and post

51:18

stuff on time , like oh my gosh , I

51:22

get the flexibility , but I could not

51:24

. I

51:26

tried it and I succeeded a couple of

51:28

times , but honestly , I feel like more

51:31

than not , I failed

51:33

the classes I took online Because I

51:35

just was not disciplined enough to keep

51:37

up with everything that needed

51:39

to be done . So

51:42

, yeah , oh

51:45

, anything else .

51:48

No .

51:49

No , well , I

51:52

think that wraps our episode . For

51:55

those of you that are

51:59

in college , keep it going

52:01

, keep up the good fight . Reach

52:03

out to your resources , your mentors , your counselors

52:06

, your tutors

52:08

and such . For those of you entering

52:10

, planning to enter , college , best

52:12

of luck , do your thing , get

52:14

your community and your support around you . And

52:18

, you know , do what

52:20

feels good , do what feels right , be realistic

52:23

. And for those of you that

52:25

didn't finish college , it's never

52:27

too late . If you wanna go back , go back

52:29

. Take it slow , take your time . There

52:31

are grants and opportunities

52:33

out there . Check with your employers to see if

52:36

they have , you know , tuition , reimbursement

52:38

or any kind of

52:40

scholarships , because those are always available

52:44

but not communicated

52:46

enough . And

52:49

for those of you , parents with kids in these different

52:51

phases , just continue to be supportive

52:53

and resourceful and

52:56

, you know , keep an open line of communication

52:58

through everything . I

53:00

think that's one of the biggest deals . So

53:03

until next time

53:05

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53:11

to hear from you . As always , we'll

53:14

be dropping episodes every

53:16

week , for

53:19

on Wednesdays and

53:22

, oh yeah , this is the

53:24

closeout . We are closing season

53:26

one . Yeah , so we are

53:28

at episode 10 . And

53:30

we are closing out season one

53:33

of getting to know me

53:35

and getting to know Jaila , and

53:37

our plan for next season

53:40

is to start

53:42

bringing you new voices , so you'll

53:44

hear from some different people and hear

53:46

some additional perspective , and

53:48

we hope you enjoy it . We're gonna plan

53:50

it out as best as we can

53:52

to continue providing candid conversation

53:55

and , you know

53:57

, addressing stigmas and mental

53:59

health issues and the like , and so we

54:02

hope you keep going with us . It's

54:05

been real , it's been fun . So , as always

54:07

, take care , be good

54:09

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