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particular parker i'm honoring the gods of this

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the for of first things that were saying to each other

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so meeting you and common ground dress

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like well i've been actually a one way friend

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of yours for many many years it's mad t v

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o a when did you start on that too

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so that was may a meeting nineties ninety

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seven years ninety seven so i was a

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huge fan of yours in the castles and credit

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was one of the funniest shows ever created

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the your whole journey watching through that was

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was incredible format t v two or three stooges

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to the podcast the

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, ten minute pause and then the new podcast

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very credible a cheers

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my favorite role you played was

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the mountain in the game of

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thrones what was it like working with dragons

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well the dragons are usually

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tennis balls on the end of see stance

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stance a sometimes they

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they hang out m

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i m c stand it's like you

9:32

know it's like a little like the thing you've got the camera on

9:34

here oh this is like film lingo yeah no

9:36

i understand i'm trying to impress me with my film lingo

9:38

you know what a banana a yeah and you

9:40

walk like this i don't do it a a

9:42

banana i take it back i did not know what have

9:44

been our yeah see it means that doesn't it

9:47

yeah because it's just a food yeah

9:49

normally yeah i am the hollywood

9:51

folk yeah the lingo and i'm

9:53

and my name is bjorn

9:55

have thor beyond sun and then i am seven

9:57

foot four and i yeah

9:59

the dragon stuff they don't scare me

10:02

even though they've been extinct for while these

10:04

scientists raza check out yeah

10:07

i see i'm really into video games

10:09

or as by the against the tsar the

10:11

sky room

10:13

video games as part of the other school series

10:16

and for the longest time there's alleging that there's

10:18

dragons and things started a dagger

10:20

fallen so i always i grew up playing

10:22

those video games are dreaming of one day meeting

10:25

a dragon in dragon virtual world and of

10:27

as you did in his car i'm so

10:30

it's dragons

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represent know exactly what the reps them for they represent

10:34

maybe this color mythical creature

10:37

that is bigger that anything

10:40

humans kim campbell possibly comprehend

10:43

maybe they're so they're so they

10:45

show up so often and miss from the

10:48

from their religious stories

10:50

in of the snake and so on the serpent and

10:52

or know that is with his breathing fire this

10:54

kind of weird it's interesting what about dragons

10:57

because they're now you bring it up these are people the probably

10:59

wouldn't have access to the fact that there used to

11:01

be dinosaurs were never did it if

11:03

they didn't they're drawn things look

11:06

like you know a dinosaur cousin

11:09

but cool the can breathe fire and

11:11

has wacky wings and a spike

11:13

tale om yeah

11:15

where the heck they come up with that because they're clearly

11:18

of course represented in mythology all

11:20

the way back to our though

11:22

not cave drawings but he egyptians probably

11:24

knew at the end they could time travel so they would

11:26

have gone back to the case with aliens

11:29

that place

11:30

living organisms on earth the

11:33

time travel and they could plant

11:35

legends

11:36

into the into the collective intelligence

11:38

of the human species yeah and

11:40

perhaps they were thinking of us to do something smart

11:43

with it and we didn't we just came up with skier

11:45

now we're just what said that was very

11:47

offensive i'm sorry i mean to if it a

11:49

lot of you with your video game i'm more of a

11:51

burger ca a burger i'm bad

11:54

donkey kong dude oh what

11:56

is that seven original burger

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time was an arcade games the later

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showed up on the in television the

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television i believe it was made by texas instruments

12:07

horrible first generation first generation

12:10

game console and burger time you just

12:12

it's like super mario you just gotta stay away

12:14

from the the eggs and the petals

12:16

and stuff and you just have been paint maintenance man

12:18

you the been false and then you go down to that it

12:20

remains whitman the cheese and then the meat

12:24

i'm not going to say it's is complicated sky room but

12:26

the took me awhile to finish it

12:28

when has seven did

12:30

you play video games that was up a party

12:33

alive for potter's source of happiness for you

12:35

at all it was it was i played video

12:37

games up until around him

12:40

i think in two thousand and ten i got the red

12:42

ring a death on my exports three sixty

12:44

thousand that was thousand i never or whatever

12:46

the spots was then yeah i had

12:48

i was playing now i'd finished

12:51

a the the grand theft auto

12:53

that was out in unfinished the red dead redemption

12:55

so i was doing that thing where you just drive

12:58

around ah you know the streets

13:00

of new york or just ride around on your

13:02

horse shooting people and are you

13:04

know throwing grenades and or into groups of people

13:06

in the a grand theft and huge you're describing

13:09

the same thing that happened a decade later cause

13:11

is now

13:12

david action to and

13:14

they're still not a new grand theft auto so he

13:16

added there is right either working on it they're

13:19

always flirting with that idea says you

13:21

know horseplay scar another

13:23

person the to be bomb a huge fan of from

13:25

that time imagine is bobby lee the

13:27

device guarantees a huge fan of calories

13:29

every so what bodily

13:32

loves to do

13:33

is the grind do the

13:35

boring task over and over gather

13:38

mushroom the good skier own he can fight dragons

13:40

you can fight all kinds of things we

13:42

can also gathered mushrooms and different ingredients

13:44

make potions and or , us

13:46

he loves the ingredients the he's the you

13:49

know in the hunter gatherer the hunter his the gather his

13:51

the gatherer yeah i've

13:53

heard him a described that way and and he

13:55

likes to describe himself that with ah

13:57

i worked with bobby not too long ago he came

14:00

the couple days on this thing where students

14:02

and we couldn't border catching

14:04

up with my old pal and if you know anything about

14:06

bobby lee you'd probably be able to

14:08

predict that he spent their entire time playing

14:10

farming on his i pet

14:12

or humans are a source of anxiety

14:15

and trouble so sometimes it's good to escape

14:17

human interaction to video games totally

14:19

and with them on that he is he's one of

14:21

the funniest people i ever tell

14:24

what what what do you think is waiting make

14:26

some when it's is all the times

14:28

you work with him the

14:31

nonstandard non sequitur waves

14:33

has been

14:34

bobby lee is

14:36

one of the most raw

14:39

people raw performers who lets

14:41

it all hang out to the degree that

14:43

he will even get naked in front of his audience

14:45

which his usually a metaphor for someone doing

14:47

stand up i'm bearing all yeah

14:50

i'm showing you everything and bobby will

14:52

just and pool is it hurt out of his pants yeah pants

14:54

don't think he understands metaphor too much embodies

14:56

metaphor yes he embodies metaphor he's

14:59

the gathered we call him gathered him gathering metaphor

15:02

bobby gathering gatherer metaphor he's metaphor metaphor

15:04

for something else for somebody else's life

15:06

somebody day it'd be in the dictionary

15:09

yeah representing some kind of concept maybe

15:12

metaphor itself get was once this

15:14

whole thing falls apart and we are climbing

15:16

the to do vines other spiral up

15:18

the sears tower like they say in fight club bobby

15:20

will go back to his gather reform and

15:23

be happy as a pig and shit just

15:25

walk around a loincloth with bird hanging

15:27

out cracking jokes the people and climbing

15:29

up on them for her stool lap dance sabrina

15:32

i'd love to dig into something he

15:34

he did you get done a lot agree podcast

15:36

together if you

15:39

in , very uncomfortable process of why

15:41

you don't stand up so let me ask

15:43

you you hit to was

15:48

originally from canada yes however i'm

15:50

yeah i'm a i'm a frickin pinkos

15:52

a socialist is that what the where

15:55

you come from that's not a nice thing to say i

15:57

thought the soviet union

15:59

that is and

15:59

the say by cholera someone a fish

16:03

, right com or here is is a good visited

16:05

socialist vs vs have read

16:07

have like bold

16:09

colors yeah yeah that there is an interesting

16:12

tension in your voice in the way he talks about

16:14

it is just not a source of happiness for

16:16

you you you respect the art form but

16:18

it was not it that you

16:20

have connected to his if he felt connected to

16:22

that's a good way to put it yeah i respect

16:24

it or form a lot i get

16:27

i grew up with all the albums and stuff i

16:29

had an and brother and sister who

16:31

so i'm gonna we had the we had

16:33

george carlin we had dug you

16:35

know richard pryor we had robert klein

16:37

we had guild alive the gilda

16:40

radner a concert we're not we're

16:42

all sorts of stuff but you know i

16:44

don't know there's a lot of there's a lot of reasons

16:46

i do feel like a a career in show business

16:50

it is you know they the it never goes

16:52

the way you plan a like most things

16:54

and i was fortunate enough to get started outside

16:57

of my native vancouver or in my native

16:59

vancouver i grew up in the burbs outside and

17:02

there was a lot of industry there so i was

17:04

fortunate enough to get started as an actor when

17:06

i was like sixteen so

17:09

the the yeah that was there were some times

17:12

early on where i came up with some stand

17:14

, stuff and did it but the

17:16

yeah quickly quickly

17:18

it abandoned you know

17:20

you go three do mad tv and stuff and then

17:23

and that's where my and is gonna

17:25

sound weird do weird sound as anxiety

17:27

as anxiety did when did was on bobby's podcast try to

17:29

avoid questions

17:31

what are you getting your this face this whole time

17:33

those making

17:35

the whole just atmosphere feel full

17:37

of anxiety so i'm trying not to usa suddenly

17:39

the whole time i'm saying play pool play copia

17:41

okay ah play collect simply

17:44

cool he said that loud a couple times added

17:46

to the to speak up that a playful by

17:48

got cut up but cannot maintain

17:50

broke his or think there's two ways to do it i

17:52

think it's lame when someone who's done one thing

17:54

for a while goes and starts

17:57

doing stand up out of nowhere so i think

17:59

it's an art form the under

18:01

attack because it's not like

18:03

anything else you need although

18:06

now you can of course you

18:08

know make whatever you want it's to the era

18:10

of self publishing as far as making a product

18:12

and putting it out there which is getting easier

18:14

of course and i can't wait to talk about that with with

18:17

a i and how it's changing art arm

18:20

but at the can

18:22

stand up all you need is a is a microphone

18:25

and you know perhaps know perhaps

18:27

be good to have some mental illness and

18:29

then you can just run up their end up

18:31

ah talk forever and i say

18:33

just have to deal comedians

18:35

like the you guys have to deal with justin

18:39

the influx of

18:41

people who aren't sure why they're doing comedy

18:43

i would ask me as and i mean not good

18:46

ones a good ones you know what they're doing but everyone else

18:48

agreed don't like my don't stand

18:50

up having said that said am allergic to money

18:53

yeah do you think they have a good answer for that

18:55

why they're doing it because i actually like when i'm

18:57

in austin i gonna open mike says listening

19:00

it's inspiring to me both

19:03

the funny and the unfunny people

19:05

because i've been doing it for several years

19:08

sometimes over a decade and they're still

19:10

at it sister right there there's going

19:12

for the price and then as pussy open mike's

19:15

that a really sad in that

19:17

there's you know only like five

19:19

other people in the audience injuries he just other

19:22

comedians and they're still gone

19:24

all out as if they're in front of a stadium

19:26

that to me sounds like someone loves yeah

19:29

i got no questions without person i

19:32

, questions for someone who goes sideways

19:34

from here unrecognizable

19:36

doing something and then i'm doing stand

19:38

up because it's like like

19:41

truly look hey i've been i've been forced enough

19:43

to be in the business for long time long that

19:45

this point if i came up empty doing lives stuff

19:47

is fun i have friends that are like

19:49

come here some guys who are primarily

19:52

sketch people are you would look at

19:54

the miss gets people in they can sell tickets for being

19:56

sketch people and they and will talk

19:58

about nine million nine do

19:59

log i do a little stand up than

20:02

i do a song that i do not a monologue

20:04

and i play off the audience to little stand up

20:08

what they end up his it's almost

20:10

like playing music in that

20:13

you know people are going up

20:15

there playing music but what band have you been listening

20:17

to that's what you're gonna sound like so

20:19

it's really it's mean of course the i'm

20:21

speaking from zero experience though

20:23

i've heard it takes years of course

20:25

to find your own voice stand ups when

20:28

they first go up there they're doing

20:30

some sort of impersonation of sound so my

20:32

and so on so and you gotta you gotta

20:34

pop this audience that that's paying

20:37

and you're going to get run over by the next person

20:39

who's coming up and die it's hard

20:41

follow the last person who went up

20:43

for you and i sat mean

20:45

that is a really hard way to it's very

20:49

quick , to be and to find your voice comedic

20:51

for don't you have that same kind of thing with sketch

20:53

we still have to find your own voice was

20:56

like all the impressions you do they're just terrible

20:59

you know they're they're different spins

21:01

and different people do not like perfect

21:04

your impressions are yes that's

21:06

does that mean that similar kind of challenge

21:08

and journey yes stand up you

21:10

just saying they're kind of distinct

21:13

and you fell into this when he fell in love with it

21:15

he has his like would mad tv time

21:17

opens you up to yeah as a kid i literally

21:20

want to be an actor i was want to be an actor

21:22

from a very young age far ,

21:24

as i can remember knows the class clown and

21:26

wanted to do comedy stuff

21:28

and know comedic acting and so our music

21:30

acting yeah early on my

21:32

early on were the very predictable

21:35

list of guys from

21:37

from every tv

21:39

early saturday night live monty

21:42

python all of those performers

21:44

really influenced me it was later that i

21:46

saw people like

21:48

kevin kline is an incredible actor

21:51

i vividly remember being like twelve thirteen

21:54

seen him get an academy award for fish

21:56

called wanda the blew my mind

21:58

he was hilarious

21:59

the mayor was one of my favorite movies back then

22:02

and now and our he won

22:04

an academy award and at that point

22:06

i i started

22:09

thinking more about acting and then

22:11

i was like a said really fortunate

22:13

to fall in with some they

22:16

always want to do it and i was trying to hustle

22:18

this now and i was a kid and then i

22:20

, up bergen represented know

22:22

i ended up on a teen show i

22:24

was on i basically the easiest

22:26

way to pitch it is it's like a canadian

22:29

my so called life with these kids

22:31

in their lives and stuff and i did that for like

22:33

five years and i really

22:35

love acting i really truly love acting

22:37

and i don't

22:40

i'm not someone who wants people to know my

22:42

opinion so that's

22:44

another thing about stand up like i

22:46

love the illusion of what i get the do

22:48

in the in the entertainment

22:51

and podcasting is great for that

22:53

but to stand up there and

22:56

from and will just for me it's like

22:58

it would have to all be fantasy and

23:01

, them so

23:03

nature said that every profound spirit

23:06

needs a masks eat

23:08

naked say you like to talk about in

23:11

your comedy you know let's talk about

23:13

stuff that's personal to you yeah

23:16

i on what is that it would issue or to

23:18

psychoanalyze yourself do you

23:20

think it's just not something you

23:22

find funny or as it's are you running

23:24

from something

23:27

and it's not your fault was smoker

23:29

fold will begin have another

23:32

really

23:33

the great comedic actor who's also serious

23:35

actor robin williams one of the best

23:37

serious actors i mean

23:39

i'll i envy

23:41

you know one of the funniest people of all time but as

23:44

great as incredible as he was

23:46

as a funny man as as as a stand

23:48

up and a performer i almost like

23:51

is is serious stuff better casio question

23:53

about that what it would he make of the that he

23:55

committed suicide i think it's i

23:57

gets amiens super depressed i

24:01

have referred to as like the jesus christ

24:03

of christ of depression it's

24:05

almost like he died for others depressing you know

24:07

enemy and like yeah as you'd

24:09

look at someone like that and go a major rock star

24:12

like you know you can just check

24:14

out if you're not liking your life and

24:16

of course some like suicide

24:18

that you look a little deeper and realize

24:21

how tortured the human mind

24:24

can , make someone is there

24:26

some aspect is so you know where an ally

24:28

there's some aspects of celebrity that isolating

24:31

that can make you feel very lonely lonely

24:35

feel no not no you feel

24:37

the love i just feel like

24:39

i'm not mm it's like

24:41

no i've always kind of had

24:43

a small group of friends and those

24:45

, don't the you know it's like may

24:48

have known the same people for years and years he never

24:50

really thought the celebrity really a

24:52

in l a it's hard to it's hard

24:54

for people don't really care to see you and then

24:56

the next minute they see so and so so

24:59

it's like in , the guy from

25:01

that theory that the mike

25:03

and molly right nope molly right king

25:06

of or think you'd save you had your

25:08

bob seeking queens know the

25:10

me so close

25:13

your wow say your used to be

25:15

the mountain under to a game of thrones york

25:17

like shit whatever that is a seat

25:20

and fried dough yeah i'm guessing

25:22

that's what's up lived anyways

25:24

anymore i'm at the gym the when

25:26

like fifteen pounds of shoulder press

25:29

ah and people coming up to me

25:32

the use know your dragon kill have a man

25:34

else to be what's have

25:36

there been low points low points

25:38

sorry go there but

25:40

ah there

25:43

there oh

25:48

yeah there's whether but it has it has point

25:50

in life gabi to suffer from

25:52

like depression and you those kinds of you know what i

25:54

do i do have the have

25:56

a bunch how do

25:58

you do that said the friends

26:01

in the in of do anything yeah

26:04

, ever have an incredible fiance

26:06

who are that that's nice to have somebody

26:10

somebody constant that you love very much

26:12

and see is the best person and all that good stuff

26:15

hopefully vice versa and then

26:17

now i knew reason instagram she

26:19

said is she loves you so

26:22

what you're used to let us on yeah allegedly

26:25

that might all be for yeah that'll make money

26:27

that you pay her is vital i don't have

26:29

any cause i'm not amanda i , like

26:31

i can do who you got venmo

26:33

yeah yeah i got i only have like a hundred and twenty

26:35

three years some does coin yes and doge

26:38

and got got doge

26:40

i got some of those monkey and if these oh

26:43

before i forget yes

26:45

those

26:46

no

26:48

the do the sticker on your microphone if that's okay

26:53

oh yeah these are tricky because i have the thumbs

26:56

of i , like italian software

26:58

on why i just haven't and we're gonna this

27:01

will take another

27:02

yeah yeah

27:04

man yeah woo this embarrassing

27:06

when this now you got it under pressure

27:09

then i have looked id i have performances

27:12

i do you have anxiety yeah you

27:14

have anxiety period period yeah i

27:17

i i i don't like it when i fasted

27:19

p and and everyone's waiting they

27:22

are not air yeah like it

27:24

you know it'll help you in that situation said

27:26

taking a shit because whenever you take

27:28

a shit you've , p a

27:30

little hard to take a shit while you're testing

27:32

at a urinal but not in

27:35

my world that can just get to keep yourself for things

27:37

to make this shit oh good you ever heard of banana

27:40

it did recently somebody told me again

27:43

not the showbiz term i'm talking about the

27:45

food rogoff are

27:48

ya

27:51

which ways of is this way that it's like a d

27:53

know to spit it they got idea

27:58

so sexy

28:01

the like a brand yeah it's

28:03

very important brand yourself these colors a

28:05

selling shoes yeah

28:08

got some custom kicks coming

28:10

out the duty no actually

28:12

that would be a good idea he probably

28:15

saw a pair to as speaking , anxiety

28:17

i really am only focused on this

28:19

right now lox i pod us just shit your

28:21

pants and make if easier get

28:23

on with it it the things been dog

28:26

eared in my pocket for a while i swear this

28:28

never happens to me else i been people

28:30

don't some of the sticker for an hour while they're doing

28:32

the pauses if you see make when you're with somebody

28:34

and years under performing well

28:36

here's the thing as you ask me questions

28:39

that i don't want to answer i'll just go to

28:41

the oh god the sickness or doesn't mean we

28:43

just ends up working then working won't

28:45

have it is funny is started doing know we're talking

28:47

about depression that's weird that's is weird

28:50

tommy tommy a how that makes you feel

28:53

ah

28:55

we're

28:56

the listener he

28:58

succeeded after ten minutes yet you

29:01

don't know i do have i do have a some

29:03

of that stuff bobby lee it

29:06

has had encouraged me on on

29:09

waxes i like to set to go

29:11

to talk about it on podcast talk

29:13

about the presence is it can help people

29:16

and i said no but down

29:19

it's true i do i do have some there's there's

29:21

some history and family you overcome it while

29:24

, used to not believe in medication and

29:26

all i used to think that that was for someone

29:29

else with the who's been diagnosed with

29:31

her some of the am the

29:33

money the refer stuff but ,

29:36

i got older and some of

29:38

the stuff happens in the you know you you

29:40

have to go and buy

29:42

stuff i mean no mental

29:44

stuff and yes

29:47

i when i just i believe that the stigma

29:49

needs to be removed completely sent

29:52

ah and so i've i

29:54

yeah i do therapy i do talk therapy

29:56

i am on a little bit of stuff

29:58

which stuff are you when

30:00

i first started it i

30:03

was

30:05

someone posted was like my

30:08

manager and she goes too

30:10

much but he's like you don't have the white

30:12

knuckle white through life right because as

30:14

lawyer literally just like everything

30:16

became really

30:19

hard to do at a level that i wanted

30:21

to do it at even just get

30:23

and three day writes ah and

30:25

when i first got

30:28

some of the the meds

30:30

when i was up that among it felt

30:32

like doors and windows were opening literally

30:34

in my brain i took up a three

30:36

hour nap the first day

30:39

haven't , shouldn't even feel the stuff the first

30:41

that i think my brain was lay was like

30:43

a sponge it wanted to to

30:45

needed some relief and i am not a nap guy

30:47

i can sleep three hours and i'll be fine be

30:51

but i i took a long nap and then

30:53

i started third it's hard

30:55

to help as now we're home a

30:57

little bit chemistry in your head

31:00

and he just make the whole world appeared

31:02

so much more beautiful yeah yeah

31:05

, mean after , the

31:08

that you know there's a lot going on in your brain that

31:10

can be changed by you

31:12

know your lifestyle but also somebody physical

31:14

things like legitimate or

31:17

and bobby's case you know

31:19

someone around and some the farming

31:22

what bodies gone to a few ruff periods

31:25

always like how you know would draw

31:27

the not gonna cost us selling and

31:30

just everything else involved and he has to beautiful

31:32

rollercoaster of who he isn't a lot

31:34

of great comedian seem to be that way so

31:36

, what the connection there is is it using

31:39

some level of crazies acquired for comedy

31:42

like a sense yes

31:44

this are unskilled one to

31:46

ten how much crazy yeah

31:49

in some ways of a ten

31:52

hour and in other ways that i think

31:56

the other ways of sort of functionally on like

31:59

two or three i don't

32:01

have seen from canada and i'm yeah

32:03

if i in iowa i try to just keep

32:05

things very even keeled my parents

32:07

are italian , from italy

32:10

and he was he i grew up

32:12

during world war two and they're very you

32:14

know ah simple outlook

32:16

on things that complex incredible

32:19

classy people who are

32:22

very simple when it comes to a

32:25

lot of stuff and enda i i

32:27

think just being a sort of it at

32:29

heart kind of a timid canadian coming

32:32

out here years ago as

32:34

kid ah , was

32:37

all i could do to just keep

32:39

everything super normal and

32:41

then

32:42

sort of was able to settle into that

32:45

has a lifestyle buy you love

32:47

the idea of being an actor who

32:50

are you mentioned john candy in ah

32:53

lane phase and automobiles s tore

32:55

my favorite movies is as one of yours weight

32:58

and makes that

32:59

oh you work what would you what

33:02

and when you when you talk about

33:05

enjoying their movie do enjoy just

33:07

a rock comedy or do enjoy like the friendship

33:09

and and the love that's their

33:11

even though the surface

33:15

it doesn't make any sense that there should be a friendship

33:17

there

33:18

i mean that's such an important element to

33:20

the film but ah he was

33:22

a kid i just loved the comedy and

33:24

then i it's been a nostalgic favorite

33:26

of mine like it's my favorite movie ah

33:29

but it's also ah it's just legit

33:31

my favorite movie because that as

33:34

you get older and you start watching start realize

33:36

it's what that's what john hughes is

33:38

the filmmaker and what john candy

33:41

particularly and but also

33:43

steve martin are doing in the film that makes

33:45

it such a work of art which is loneliness

33:49

is there in every moment

33:51

of that film john candy

33:54

is he embodies

33:56

del griffith his character

33:58

in the film the film he if if there's

34:00

a lonely guy and , candy

34:02

but but del griffith is also a very friendly

34:04

guy in a and the shower curtain rings salesman

34:06

and knows everybody in the midwest

34:09

and runs around to motels and has meaningful

34:11

conversations with the guy evening gas

34:13

you know whoever he's talking to to

34:16

a but there's loneliness they're all

34:18

the all and a

34:21

you know this is a character that these the

34:23

film is filled with loneliness and

34:25

it's not until you know the second last

34:27

seen when he's at the he's station

34:30

in dell what are in doing here you

34:33

thought i thought you were going home what are you doing here i'm

34:36

that's a very good neil neil pitch

34:38

from the movie thank you are

34:41

a that's when you realize how low when applause

34:43

and post shares that's

34:45

when you realize how lonely is and i think that's the

34:47

is from the film that i

34:49

mean look you know nowadays i i

34:52

feel like urban centers for a long time but

34:54

john candy would have won an academy award

34:56

hands down for that film says

34:59

he didn't do that with comedies back to yeah

35:01

, after that movie came out with fish called wanda

35:04

yeah and then i mean still

35:06

comedies don't get respected enough robin

35:08

williams he got i guess he got an oscar

35:11

for good we're going to go to a hunting

35:13

a jim carrey

35:15

did he ever get an oscar i

35:17

don't lisa the yeah they don't get

35:20

the on the move but it's not even if he

35:22

did you wouldn't be for comedies is

35:25

just

35:26

i mean there's some things that are

35:30

lane seen an army that he would you even put that

35:32

is a car i guess it's a comedy see i'm leaders

35:34

of the result loneliness and

35:36

depth of permeates the whole movie yeah

35:39

that ultimately and it's a happy ending

35:41

which is hard to kind of

35:43

it's a happy ending only because

35:45

in the last moment of the movie

35:48

john candy puts on a brave

35:50

face

35:52

even when he's got no

35:55

one and he's they're

35:57

seeing the pages entire family on

35:59

thanks giving and he forces

36:01

a smile which is the last literally

36:03

the last frame of the movie and i said before

36:06

if you're not reduced to just a sob

36:08

sobbing paula meets ah

36:10

at the end of the movie than you are not human yeah

36:14

it's the data is

36:16

a happy ending it's a happy ending even

36:18

though it says it's a sad

36:20

so much heretic loneliness

36:23

in the world i was just in vegas and

36:25

want to diner like for am five

36:27

am there's a waitress is empty

36:30

as a waitress as sweet as kind

36:33

, you're being kept com sweetheart and all

36:35

that stuff on then

36:38

add it up after a she said

36:41

i'll just talk to me a little bit knows

36:43

good as nobody nobody there and was just some

36:45

sadness in , eyes

36:47

are not a bus also some as love like that

36:50

sweetheart that area

36:52

miami kind of bomb of

36:54

an outage john candy performance because

36:57

at first because first was like

36:59

reading pretty dark

37:02

a book

37:04

about hitler's of silos

37:06

a little bit frustrated it's she kept talking

37:09

to me because it was like is is almost

37:11

like a the same way

37:13

the jack any is it's annoying a little bit rights

37:15

but then are very quickly opened up to like

37:17

while others there's a kind

37:20

human being and the segway human connection supersedes

37:23

everything else in an era was beautiful and

37:25

i think john candy captures that

37:28

really well which is like the

37:30

connection with the human beings sometimes

37:34

we pull away from there because we're the of

37:37

a busy life for stuff to do

37:40

as see my character

37:43

can care for as he's like as marketing exactly

37:45

some like that's but

37:47

if you just pause it and notice others

37:49

you couldn't he can really discover beautiful people

37:52

totally totally everyone's got point mean

37:54

everyone's got their the story and

37:58

you know the idea

37:59

person

38:01

i've never met them in ah

38:03

but you become

38:05

a guy that you know he could we could

38:07

just walk up the back in the day i would

38:09

imagine he could walk up to just bought a house

38:11

at least in canada knock on the door

38:14

and using vitamin for to order

38:16

, so yeah

38:18

it's yeah that the

38:20

you know as you talking about you

38:22

know a book down and talking

38:24

to someone for while even though you'd really like to read

38:27

, book it's it's like it's that sorta

38:29

thing that can be character

38:31

the movie sorted does that johnny

38:34

appleseed just a you realize he's just gone round

38:36

making people smile you

38:39

know and know and pages hang on with

38:41

this guy so frustrated

38:43

his system but he's so exhausting

38:45

and his big underwear and the sake of the hotels

38:48

and everything and by the end of it he loves

38:50

this guy's you know

38:52

and so it's a good and a bad thing

38:54

that you have didn't to her take

38:56

that waitress with you on a trip maybe

38:58

road trip up to reno oh

39:00

oh she's she's i see his or

39:02

something right now where soft with way we've

39:04

been having sex multiple times there

39:06

are sense as nice as lovely honey

39:08

tix i'm sure she's married and

39:11

and happily and has many grandchildren

39:13

are cats ah and

39:16

plus their movies on thanksgiving

39:18

at and gray davis rest days giving so like

39:20

thanksgiving just embodies that

39:22

forget about the the business

39:24

and the whatever the career

39:27

you're chasing in life and just take

39:29

a pause and appreciate the people you lost me or my

39:31

family mm four feet the people

39:33

whatever your family or friends yeah ah

39:36

yes i'm weird friends on

39:38

orthodox and the so

39:40

at least in the public sphere oh you

39:42

are from of by believe brian cowen

39:45

all those kinds of folks from the mad tv days

39:47

i'm sure there's others i

39:49

didn't mean to be a good friend

39:51

here in l a it doesn't work

39:53

general in the world the world will

39:55

sell a swirl different i

39:57

think it is different yeah i think it is over

39:59

to eat it the bit of a career kind of negotiation

40:02

, around that kind of stuff why not

40:04

a fan fan i just mean

40:07

i mean i mean that it's just kind

40:09

of hard here hard to

40:12

make time or everybody there so

40:14

it is it's always been a city to me that

40:16

is like will keep you so busy

40:19

and every time i go home to vancouver after

40:21

a few days i start to get a little stir crazy

40:24

and i think that been here

40:26

in in l a i

40:28

go to sleep with one hundred things that things still have to do

40:30

then you never you never out of stuff to do

40:33

and if you

40:35

when you ask about the nuts

40:37

or whatever if you crazy i mean look every

40:40

although weirdest people from every

40:42

high school in the united states and the going to make

40:45

it nearly enough everyone just comes

40:47

here and not

40:50

a freak and the free kingdom as they

40:52

say the end of affair loathing in las vegas that

40:54

was a very good robin williams impersonations that

40:56

was minus robin williams as johnny

40:58

depp as hundred stance of net not

41:00

your fault it will

41:02

pretty good thank you could have been you can

41:04

loathing

41:05

loading heaviest i would like

41:08

to play his thirty the the role that

41:10

dumb though i am but he said el toro

41:12

gained weight set out of in full he's

41:14

a set pieces it was thrilled over those

41:16

i am a guide to and his face off acted

41:19

on that ah , i'm

41:22

yeah yeah no i think that it's backdoor

41:24

beauty that tesla good tesla yeah

41:27

, that it's a real i'm

41:30

said actor is fantastic

41:33

actor is think actor think what it takes to

41:35

be a good friend is just be an old presence

41:38

there's be in there i mean it's all anyone needs

41:40

to be heard in

41:42

l a it is it is interesting

41:45

it is eat you i haven't seen

41:47

people that i love and years

41:49

some people didn't as yesterday

41:51

so have a depth of connection even

41:54

know mike

41:56

one of the reasons i really enjoy doing a park as you

41:58

get the sit down with what

41:59

the actual

42:01

panda yours as band prolonged

42:03

periods of time together the don't otherwise

42:05

that's a good point out at as spoke as pockets

42:08

to people really close to me the you've

42:10

you've never had a conversation without

42:12

microphones like you do with like a phone is

42:14

weird but yeah ah

42:16

the some aspects about our a way that in

42:18

our lives it is precious friends us comedians

42:21

science know do podcast and stuff

42:23

and there's a

42:24

there's an intimacy to that yeah the

42:26

yeah there isn't there is of the ones that i

42:28

do i mean i just did a

42:31

bobby lee and andrew sent he knows funny

42:33

enough called bad sense that friends

42:36

and the afterwards emma

42:38

get pouch head coach and with whom i do

42:40

do the was with me

42:42

sneakers or coming soon stinkers

42:44

coming soon get your will foot and your chad

42:47

foot comes at chad size fifteen and and nine

42:49

and and half

42:51

and i remember afterwards were talk and it was

42:53

just basically me chad

42:55

and seventeen over talk and talk and was over

42:57

there you know i phone

42:59

and then , was like we're

43:02

me we're didn't spend any time talking about anything

43:05

they feel like we're one of those hours that

43:08

goes by and you realize ajit been goofing

43:10

around with these guys would so that's what lessons about

43:12

i'm fine i'm it's great and then i'd like

43:14

i'd bobby a pop i'll see you later

43:19

i met sex slavery broke feel it

43:21

is yeah yeah yeah he's

43:23

a guy diverse just i just send text

43:26

messages over there to him that and

43:28

never come level and then he thinks

43:31

that i'm angry with him because it's been

43:33

you know it'll go to three years without

43:35

him get back to me and then just as

43:37

a nowhere a fuck face and

43:39

ah who says tape of as he does

43:42

a you together you both that's each other not going to be

43:44

very i'm going to be very careful my body

43:46

he i gotta be very sweet dear friend

43:49

dear friend hello how are you doing how are

43:51

you i know i checked in with you but

43:53

not , three months ago ah

43:56

and then every once in while ago hey fuck this that's

43:58

into hide from the world's nine

43:59

i'm okay i can be pretty shitty

44:02

with friends together back and say

44:04

i can empathize with with bobby might

44:06

might be a skier i'm thing

44:08

maybe like hiding in a world's in

44:11

the digital world and say they can pcs

44:14

yeah yeah there's that ah

44:18

the i have buddy who said

44:20

some really smart while

44:22

ago we ended up working together on

44:24

this a tv show thing and i

44:26

reached out home to see if you want to

44:28

do with us and ducks he did and

44:30

he goes great gave

44:33

such a funny writer he goes

44:35

i may not be in touch all the time but i know who my friends

44:37

are you don't mean and it's like

44:39

in our business and this is a fellow who moved

44:42

ah boo boos from ontario

44:44

canada move back there he's

44:47

on a farm with his wife and kids and he does

44:49

not care he's never been hollywood guy

44:51

and ah it's tough it's tough

44:53

older but when you do you know

44:56

he still the same sweden guys doing

44:58

his thing though yeah some of my closest

45:00

friends even fun on top

45:01

for a few months yeah we're right back at it

45:04

was they do and then was shit goes next

45:06

is something really dramatic happened a difficult staff

45:08

are you know any of that kind of stuff

45:10

i'm a mom was there sent like

45:12

so for important stuff chivalry and

45:14

important highs an important those your their yeah

45:17

and the i had my back up especially if you

45:19

have those years of experiences together

45:22

since totally i see

45:24

done a couple park s yeah

45:26

done so we gotta talk about

45:28

the dealer bit but first

45:30

you did for several years he did the ten minute

45:32

podcasts i

45:35

mean everything is hilarious about their pockets including

45:38

the factors ten minutes right

45:40

and is ever is ever ridiculous it's

45:42

absurd the dynamic

45:44

is hilarious it's you brian cowen personally

45:47

i am iraq xactly wise

45:50

why works so well but it did it works really

45:52

well i think it's because the

45:54

yeah you're having fun probably and mean as

45:56

though it really came

45:59

through davis friends

46:01

just talking shit in the tensions

46:03

the beautiful tension in the absurdity they came

46:05

out yeah i would serve

46:07

assists was what was the story of making

46:09

their pockets would have that came to be or

46:12

what do you think it was it was as it was

46:14

i know i feel like that podcast was like

46:17

it was

46:19

are are who we kind

46:21

of our but on

46:23

steroids or something like that you know

46:26

each , you know blinds gonna be like extra

46:29

manly and and ah

46:31

can get any more male and more male already has

46:34

no heard of yeah no as he reaches

46:36

the ah yeah we just cannot

46:39

it's i feel like as

46:41

goofballs we knew each other's line

46:44

like here's the blind you don't cross

46:46

feel like those guys don't really have one or

46:48

but the least the least months i'm

46:50

and and yeah we were able to just

46:53

yeah goof around and i did it with them

46:55

for three

46:57

years and then chad ,

46:59

am doomed doozy with and my pal

47:01

tommy block chose a another

47:04

writer producer like chat they came on

47:06

and yeah i'll all told we did told we like

47:08

a

47:10

seven years that i think six five

47:12

six seven now mom

47:15

eating it ever comes back and some small

47:18

form as as a twenty minute per guess

47:20

is like that are you

47:22

there at the kids is one of the most requested

47:25

bunny of this you you have a huge fan

47:27

base i'm forty seven years old so

47:29

i am of the generation

47:32

that had that cellphone

47:34

has had a cellphone half the time

47:36

and didn't for the formative years

47:38

of my life into my early twenties

47:42

finally out of a guy on a cellphone

47:44

i guess i'm like nine teams like literally

47:46

just as a move and dalai he got point in the males

47:49

he got yes that's right was that the hard

47:51

darn and hover born that's the way we liked

47:53

it but the bound you know night

47:56

and binding on those on the porn a leather

47:59

burn and the bible vs yeah

48:01

i'm , are all my views my

48:03

encyclopedia britannica wow

48:05

very impressive yes a man came to the

48:07

house and sold me these and then down here

48:09

these are my this is my pornography

48:12

pornography she'll follow me through here to talk

48:14

the parlors roots ah

48:17

sir and as through the generations from

48:19

grandfather the other yeah i

48:21

want to give you something very special to me never

48:23

can as bizarre

48:25

as is ah you grow up and jerry's

48:27

without a self yes i am it's

48:30

hard for me to connect with people who to

48:33

hit me up i look at everything is polling

48:36

so if one person hits me up and

48:38

shares this opinion but to other people hit me

48:40

up and share that i'm the worst

48:43

i'm don't follow my polls my when people

48:45

say oh that poor means absolutely

48:47

nothing those are gonna win anyway

48:50

that that's my pull my poor means nothing

48:52

but i do look at the stuff and go ah

48:55

this many people are saying this that means

48:57

that that number saying that and

49:00

, it's very hard for me

49:02

to hear what the

49:04

hell people are saying online i

49:06

really i can't connect to it sometimes personally

49:09

so when you say that that's popular podcast

49:12

like , know that i know that it's popular

49:15

with people that have expressed that they love

49:17

you know what i mean what does that actually represent i

49:20

don't know i don't know what adam taylor the

49:22

audience i don't know i know that the the people

49:24

that listen to determine a podcast and if he did

49:26

thank you ah ,

49:28

we're friends friends i

49:31

know that it was a it was a special think is is

49:33

like edge during the set of my house my which

49:35

is built it up at a know when we're just kind of just

49:38

around it's a it's an odd thing

49:40

i hope i purse i think as

49:42

a as speak for the two people

49:44

that have restarted as said you should do a

49:46

or whatever three people the polls skip

49:49

that i should bring back at some point now

49:51

be beautiful namibia insect

49:53

guy was that was that

49:55

good stories some of like a famous band

49:57

that came back and was successful problem

49:59

minerva

50:01

emma

50:04

sorry i guess you're gonna mixed up with aerosmith

50:07

yeah was aerosmith house as that he had a phantom

50:09

of the i had their faq and right different yeah

50:11

different totally different ending you those two bands

50:14

on ended up on american idol

50:17

yeah i'm a

50:19

lot interesting women involved in that one to

50:21

or

50:22

the

50:24

how to do to come to be do that

50:26

with the house disease

50:27

the as the first podcast and this

50:29

is exciting that you've asked me come here

50:31

to that's because , hear

50:33

what you would have to say about her what you had asked about

50:36

it is the first podcast that has been that is run

50:39

completely by in the centrally centrally

50:41

like to say curated by an by

50:45

we were approached by a company that had

50:47

this proprietary i that wants to develop

50:49

the podcast in the future and

50:51

figure out exactly what it takes

50:53

to make the best podcast ever and

50:56

, all we

50:58

always

50:59

we knew from the top and what they really

51:02

wanted was to people who are actually

51:04

friends and could be

51:06

meaningful in the podcast space based

51:08

on whatever information they had company

51:10

cia and are they testing technology

51:13

to control the populace to chat bots i'm

51:16

sorry i'm not at liberty to share that information

51:18

you are yeah who gave you the suit where

51:21

did you get the suit where'd , get

51:23

the see will yeah well the cac penny

51:25

cia stands for something different in here

51:27

i know it doesn't mean like like intelligence

51:30

agency and probably it's to the difference is so

51:32

so canadian or maybe

51:35

from international apparel after

51:37

the canadian international apparel company hit us

51:39

up but as add nice ah

51:42

what's had what's super weirdo you

51:44

get a kick out him i know you guys you you

51:46

do strike me as a very similar in some ways

51:49

and act as a compliment it is and it is

51:51

ah and it is is a

51:53

if i was friends with you for as long as i've been with

51:55

chad perhaps i'd have some horrible shit to say

51:58

about but smith ah the good part you

52:00

remind me of him from the and we were approached

52:02

by this company that said we have the say i

52:05

and we would like to set it loose

52:07

on you and essentially we

52:09

had to hand over some

52:13

some information that would allow the ai

52:15

to to access our email

52:17

and look at our search history purchase

52:20

history things like this and dumb

52:22

really dig into porn have included

52:24

or north korea i have and

52:26

overall my leather bound data nineteen

52:29

seventies pornography and

52:32

essentially a curator podcast for us

52:34

every week doing dumb things like

52:37

you , it's as a well you know

52:39

you do a whole could you do some city hulk hogan impersonation

52:42

podcast about news are very popular this

52:45

is info mania you know to me that

52:47

his own some about that marjorie tail agree

52:49

dude and then he's going on doing some new stuff

52:52

i'm and basically to spits

52:54

out all these things that wants us to do normally

52:56

for segments and episode and

52:58

that's pretty much hit pretty much generous what to

53:00

do a generous to promise me

53:03

you spoken

53:04

a bit here and they're like

53:06

i said i'm a huge fan and are you from everywhere but

53:08

like you eat he talks about that you

53:11

enjoy doozy because the

53:13

feel almost like liberated to

53:17

because you're operating within the constraints

53:19

of the premises generates see almost

53:22

not you're

53:24

you're you're free to risk a

53:26

fancy yeah like you know have that ya

53:28

need to do the job of like

53:31

coming up with the weird you can just

53:33

the weirdest given to you and then you just run

53:35

let's let's good way to say it because

53:37

we're ready weird chad nijat chad

53:40

can talk for days about all sorts of stuff

53:42

is particularly interested in hey i'll alien

53:44

this effect on art he is a a writer

53:47

books movies and tv shows and

53:49

dad i'm primarily you know

53:51

acting in trying to come up with stuff stuff

53:54

i write which adds pretty good rest with as see

53:56

much success anywhere ah nor

53:58

as the stuff of chance of them had but

54:00

dumb because me sneakers

54:03

the never okay oh i can't wait for

54:05

the steam room only two sizes yeah

54:07

only into size you going to be able to take the the

54:09

piano the tongue the can't take it out because

54:12

taxes states dance yes pretty

54:14

cool stuff and ah

54:15

the early

54:16

velcro yeah

54:19

velcro velcro the side were doing

54:21

some like brand new on

54:23

the a stuff yeah we want things to look like

54:25

this is what you'll be wearing on mars

54:27

when you dare to king it's and nike's

54:29

doing a bunch of research for running out

54:31

, make a super light shoe that you can be efficient

54:34

and break all kinds of running record low you

54:36

do the same cost of were doing the same something

54:38

for the podcast his face the best kind of shoes to sit

54:40

around talk to your power and would

54:43

yeah we'd so this yes it's bizarre

54:45

and it's also does some writing does the does

54:48

come up with things but not unlike what

54:51

we're seeing and a i art now so

54:53

little bit foggy it's a little bit weird and

54:56

it but it is improving it is learning

54:58

about us and writing stuff

55:00

when it makes me spit this and that which

55:02

will read you know what in i've

55:05

prepared these things for you to read

55:07

it's impossible not to get a kick

55:09

out of it is chad know for small

55:12

were blown away that we're doing this mess

55:14

and second of all the some of the stuff is actually

55:16

very funny it makes weird names

55:19

but can also get understands

55:22

it messes up some words and stuff that

55:25

makes it even funnier and then it it sort

55:27

of from the beginning started

55:29

laying on like it says astonishing

55:32

all the time everything is astonishing that's

55:35

, favorite word but

55:37

yeah it's basically just basically way

55:39

to the frame

55:42

the podcast you know i mean because

55:44

my thing is ah

55:46

want to do this or access to talk

55:48

to someone you seem to seal

55:50

to seal

55:52

the long form conversation

55:55

it seems like is that really hardware

55:57

a few no not at all says the don't like

55:59

the board

55:59

bull and i feel like if i go on and i

56:02

like to provide value never

56:04

who for what i am

56:06

you know

56:07

your value that with regard to this

56:09

project his is

56:11

obviously warrant it it's obviously

56:14

i'm waiting for the explanation for what the value

56:16

is exactly is reduced in a suit

56:18

know listed be attitudes and as it's

56:20

of i mean you've got your audience

56:22

and that's the into that people find value

56:25

in it for me i

56:27

i do feel like i'm it

56:30

is important that i if

56:33

i'm gonna do something that

56:35

and i was gonna be funny

56:37

or that i hope is funny i

56:40

, cannot want to get in and add a someone's

56:43

day and just tanner i

56:45

like making die like make and laughing

56:47

i want people the in or whatever it's

56:49

the same thing that anyone else italia giveaway

56:51

and along for me so the exciting you

56:53

did a few funny things and i wonder

56:55

if i can keep doing the funny thing is that why

56:58

you year he still that like wise

57:00

doozy relieving have some the exotic

57:04

one someone gives me anxiety because

57:07

i don't know what's coming and

57:09

that's weird for me because i like to

57:12

prepare ah , things

57:14

but it's it's not what

57:16

podcasting it's podcasting you need

57:18

to just be malleable and say

57:20

whatever and do whenever i'm

57:23

anti that's what makes

57:25

it a a real i mean it's look at medium

57:27

for conversation and if you're

57:30

driving along listening to this or anything

57:32

else here you know it is

57:34

that it's the it's the true meaning of the

57:36

pair social relationship because the best podcasts

57:39

make you feel like you're sitting around rapid

57:41

were just having conversations you could even be

57:44

sitting there green rock and allowed

57:46

yourself if someone be sitting and sounds are

57:48

you could just be sitting in silence in your fancy yeah

57:50

podcasting shoes podcasting

57:52

audiences is very different built up

57:55

and thirteen inches thirteen inches the be also

57:57

got dizzy the shoes fiasco be

57:59

dead

58:00

these issues aside creative twelfth

58:04

one thing the a eyes and good at yet

58:06

as branding everything is just do the this and that

58:08

i would i guess pretty good branding iron

58:10

allow do the allows me to just

58:13

it forces me to sit down with

58:15

, and goof

58:17

around for an hour or

58:19

an hour plus and and our

58:22

our provides the parameters that a lot

58:24

of times ignore because i because i

58:27

think that podcasting is just too dude sitting

58:29

around or three or four but

58:31

damn it

58:33

a good sit me down gives me a

58:36

premise to to work with immediately

58:38

rife with fear

58:39

it's been a who so

58:42

, the acting perspective on

58:45

the a lot of people daniel day lewis we'll

58:47

day lewis acting just like as you describe

58:49

which is you have your rolls embrace

58:52

those roles in the disappear you don't

58:54

turn you don't need to

58:56

buy gas you know doing is kind of stuff

58:58

you are is your art that

59:01

that party you feel that

59:03

way

59:04

having so the the

59:06

actor sorry affair income

59:08

i get to do something that i

59:10

, get a chance to do much of or

59:13

something that people haven't seen me do much

59:15

other that i've done on some scale that

59:17

isn't hasn't been very wide not

59:20

a lot of people have seen it that's the stuff that i get really

59:22

excited about ah

59:25

i don't know why i'm

59:27

i don't know why i don't know why necessarily

59:30

i have an answer that question yet my life like what

59:32

it is about being an actor that

59:34

, love so much because it's not like i don't like

59:37

to it's somewhat and trying to get away from myself

59:40

and play other characters in stop and not be

59:42

myself i'm but

59:44

it is i'm has always been fun too

59:49

the other people in escape yeah there's some

59:51

aspect is impressions were

59:54

you become that person says it like

59:56

what what was that like to on as

59:59

was acting the fall on

1:00:01

version that you really added

1:00:03

, become the

1:00:05

character is there some fun

1:00:08

in that yeah absolutely if

1:00:10

you can play character for long enough

1:00:14

and then jump out of it ah

1:00:16

that's a lotta fun

1:00:18

like i did this movie like ,

1:00:20

four or five years ago called the inside game

1:00:22

about the n b a gambling scandal

1:00:25

scandal there there's a netflix documentary around

1:00:27

about it right now and that

1:00:29

character i played i

1:00:33

jimmy batiste baba the sheep

1:00:36

ah who's you know this guy

1:00:38

was this bookie and ra ra ra and it's very

1:00:41

easy the lot going on with him

1:00:43

he's he's you know is running numbers

1:00:46

of the mob and stuff and there's lot of money

1:00:48

changing hands that character

1:00:50

was so i got to be

1:00:52

get so deep into that character that coming

1:00:55

out of it was was a little odd or as

1:00:57

we're the sounds the

1:00:59

three stooges was hard for me the guy found

1:01:01

that i had some

1:01:04

have curly his mannerisms just automatically

1:01:07

i could not stop them when people

1:01:09

when it was when i would talk to people they would they

1:01:11

would come i wasn't not ,

1:01:13

it on proposal would do the i like i'm ready

1:01:16

to shed it because i've been

1:01:19

been on it for months and months

1:01:21

at that point as far as getting the thing

1:01:23

down and then you then you gotta you and

1:01:25

then for me it's always i always

1:01:27

want to change the stuff i did the day before i'm

1:01:30

like that from a guy could have done better

1:01:32

in the snap and dot is that

1:01:34

stayed with you that care to say we'll and totally

1:01:37

yes i still like with actors

1:01:39

that he goes into interviews they're

1:01:42

spent so much time

1:01:44

the living inside other

1:01:46

characters the day they almost

1:01:49

don't have a depths of personality

1:01:51

themselves like adepts like

1:01:53

adam in as a negative thing is just like

1:01:55

a silver the art form it as best as pertain

1:01:57

to be other people are like

1:01:59

in an evil pretending sounds negative

1:02:02

but i'm presuming bringing certain characters

1:02:04

to life yeah yeah i'm buying

1:02:06

a loading a weird thing happened

1:02:08

while we're doing stooges cause you've got a very

1:02:11

heavy blueprint were ,

1:02:13

this very clear blueprint that

1:02:15

the stooges left for everybody

1:02:17

and it for stooge fans and people

1:02:19

enjoying the movie it's gotta be this you take

1:02:21

years toolbox that you're used to bring

1:02:24

into a comedy movies he leave if you

1:02:26

leave it behind the only tools i'm bringing the the ones

1:02:28

as he used and weird things started

1:02:30

happening where i would i

1:02:33

always saw the whole thing happening with the real

1:02:35

stooges in black and white saw

1:02:38

if we're about to shoot a scene of a just just

1:02:40

about i'm a such small the other preparation

1:02:43

you know you know everything which supposed to do

1:02:45

and i've been watching so much of it

1:02:47

and the three of us are were pretty much

1:02:49

left to come up with a lot

1:02:51

of at the the striking combinations

1:02:53

and all the stuff which is all real smack analysts

1:02:55

crap and stuff the we're doing it was very

1:02:57

was ah you're preparing

1:03:00

all that stuff but something else was happening

1:03:02

before you jump and was seen and the

1:03:04

unknown of now we're shooting it's and

1:03:06

here it's these parameters within

1:03:09

suit the scene i could still

1:03:11

see it as them doing it so

1:03:13

much so that when i saw the movie at the premiere

1:03:15

i was i use his big fuck do and

1:03:18

is i'm not purely to me curly

1:03:20

is currently but i feel my you're

1:03:22

seeing some black and white almost obscene

1:03:24

him islands yeah him was only seen

1:03:26

him through cycling as some fundamental

1:03:29

way through in some weird way

1:03:31

your channeling and because you've seen so much

1:03:33

of it the only thing you know about the

1:03:36

world leicester horwitz is hurley

1:03:40

i'm not saying he was zoomed or somethin

1:03:42

or spirit when a mere some weird

1:03:44

it'll crystal mommy shit like that i'm saying that

1:03:47

this because , know so

1:03:49

much of it because of a heavy blueprint that

1:03:51

they left with you you

1:03:53

are your channeling

1:03:55

what that person does and

1:03:58

fear year i was seeing there's

1:04:00

been zero before you do them the

1:04:02

way he would do it and then you want a couple

1:04:04

takes to make sure that you're doing ,

1:04:06

right but does that was hard damone was hard

1:04:09

to to go of some of them are

1:04:12

getting larry david was also in their addresses

1:04:14

and non also trouble letting go that

1:04:16

sweet limits and close make the man's

1:04:18

death think that work for him in that case

1:04:21

man you know he was

1:04:23

like working with the guy come on he's the greatest

1:04:25

he's a he's

1:04:27

, big stooge he's a stooge fan and

1:04:29

him and pete fairly a good friends and then

1:04:31

but then larry david us to show up and hang

1:04:34

out with us for a couple weeks so i didn't

1:04:36

realize was gonna take this this

1:04:38

by die us sitting around here in atlanta

1:04:40

it's oil and hot but a one

1:04:43

point does there's a line where

1:04:45

he kept doing a you just spit a different line

1:04:47

every time he was like getting hit their the some these

1:04:50

land there on the ground amigos he'd

1:04:52

like comes to and he says he says point

1:04:54

he goes miami

1:04:56

audiences are the best audiences in

1:04:58

the world rights and has

1:05:00

his loopy now he's playing a

1:05:03

non at the at

1:05:05

the orphanage where the three stooges

1:05:07

grew up and i'm super intimidated

1:05:09

by larry david is genius and stuff and stuff

1:05:12

and and i walk up to one ago the

1:05:15

use was like the

1:05:17

borscht belt for the comedian who is

1:05:20

, the lam indices dressing as a woman

1:05:22

he ends up at an orphanage like

1:05:24

what's going on there and there just and he looks

1:05:26

risk

1:05:28

professor on

1:05:31

my as like actor motivates

1:05:33

elect him

1:05:34

cause it looks so it's larry david

1:05:37

in a man's habit which is whole area

1:05:39

had such a p fairly casting

1:05:42

, for a los m he but

1:05:44

he's doing this whole like what a warm audience

1:05:47

you know like this like oh he's like this

1:05:49

catskill to medium is been living in

1:05:51

yellow so that overload living

1:05:53

through in his mind as is having fun with their own

1:05:56

mean that and probably and combination

1:05:59

of that and get the lives right is

1:06:01

he's like what are we do and what did you know

1:06:03

miss just frustrated all day with what

1:06:05

the heck were trying to do we think makes a

1:06:07

me that guy's one of the bus improv people

1:06:10

ever yeah so eating basis

1:06:12

so good like what was it sucks compelling

1:06:15

watch that guy because he's a comedic genius

1:06:18

like he literally he knows what he does

1:06:20

he's been a writer for fifty years or whatever

1:06:23

and , any just happens to be

1:06:25

that brilliant i mean i've

1:06:27

gotten a chance to do i did it adds

1:06:29

to that so to curb small parts and

1:06:32

it's crazy what he sees

1:06:34

i don't know what he sees

1:06:35

they're back

1:06:37

the i auditioned for it or for curb

1:06:39

like halo two or three times right and

1:06:41

never got anything and then not

1:06:43

it was only after working with him on the stooges i

1:06:45

got a call to do a bit parts

1:06:48

but i remember auditioning you go into that

1:06:50

into that room and the

1:06:52

guys waiting are all people

1:06:55

that you know he like i know them i know

1:06:57

her i knew him and our

1:07:00

i went in i addition for this for this parts

1:07:03

and dumb the only

1:07:05

thing i know thing is like okay so you really

1:07:07

wanna go to this play with me

1:07:10

you really want to go to display when you hear that

1:07:12

i have an extra ticket you sincerely

1:07:14

wanted the and i'm and i'm and so

1:07:17

that's the premise the premise of the same and that's all

1:07:19

you know solena and so he

1:07:21

goes he does his bit numb disposed

1:07:23

come in and interrupt my excuse me couldn't

1:07:26

help but hear you guys were talking about me

1:07:28

whenever the play was a deal that the salesman

1:07:31

i am the huge fan

1:07:33

of that plan with i mean if it's not it's not

1:07:35

if you're looking for someone to take a ticket i i i

1:07:38

would love to go my name so and so by the with say

1:07:40

they goes i'm gonna stop you i'm gonna stop you and

1:07:42

with

1:07:44

you really you i mean you truly want

1:07:46

to go to display then i go yes yes

1:07:49

sir you really want to go

1:07:51

actually this is he would

1:07:53

love to do this i got okay

1:07:56

try to get sunnis are going

1:07:58

on ago his ah excuse me i'm sorry

1:07:59

i mean to interrupt i was just i

1:08:02

couldn't help but overhear you have a

1:08:04

tickets to the think i'm the biggest fans

1:08:06

it's i do the same thing i saw began

1:08:09

okay you really

1:08:11

want a , like these fucking

1:08:14

with me right yeah i remember jeff garlin

1:08:16

was sitting there in the artist because because

1:08:18

say what the shut up know hold on

1:08:20

listen to you really wanna go wanna

1:08:22

three four time you know their am their

1:08:25

couldn't help it knows it and then of then i do

1:08:27

it again for guess a shit the bed because the

1:08:29

looks to be good

1:08:31

the

1:08:32

okay

1:08:34

thanks for coming up and it was it and i didn't get it i

1:08:36

still our know what the heck that guy's thinking

1:08:38

he sees season the matrix

1:08:40

other know what the heck larry david

1:08:42

sees you know if he wanted what sometimes

1:08:45

more desperation more something like this

1:08:48

he wanted he wanted of sincerity is that

1:08:50

i that i thought i was bringing

1:08:52

and i guess i was wrong maternal

1:08:55

the maybe go crazy

1:08:57

like what is anita really want yeah i

1:08:59

should grab them by the scruff of the neck and go get

1:09:01

nervous and dad you bring him resist up

1:09:03

in place our got the part the

1:09:06

perfect i heard about someone else i

1:09:08

don't know who the heck this was

1:09:10

forget who it was but i've heard the story from a couple

1:09:13

different people that there's , actor

1:09:15

and i can i don't remember who was if

1:09:17

i did it probably wouldn't say i'll out anyway but he

1:09:20

brad pitt it was brad pitt and he was in this

1:09:22

edition and he was and there was out

1:09:24

nepal is a holy shit george

1:09:26

clooney leo dicaprio dicaprio

1:09:28

any this actor went in and he did

1:09:31

the saying and saying larry

1:09:33

david was like would try to go and

1:09:35

he got like a couple takes and then he went i

1:09:37

don't think this is for me and he left

1:09:40

which an actor never does smith and

1:09:42

as the story goes larry david

1:09:44

shouted after my respect that

1:09:47

which i think it's true and i want to believe that entire

1:09:49

story yeah

1:09:52

yeah sounds like something larry deterred made

1:09:55

up a business of bodily told me that

1:09:57

story so we can't trust

1:09:59

the

1:10:00

what about him impressions

1:10:02

is a similarity between that

1:10:05

and acting do

1:10:08

there is some fundamental way in which become

1:10:11

the person

1:10:12

if you have a couple of the things you can

1:10:14

just fill in the blanks and i think the illusion

1:10:16

is that people think that

1:10:19

that person would say that

1:10:21

and do that and that's where the illusion

1:10:23

of oh really embodies the characters

1:10:25

like once you know someone's

1:10:28

mannerisms you can

1:10:30

essentially portray essentially person from the outside

1:10:32

and

1:10:33

did you have all the stuff on the outside and

1:10:35

, can do it and complete the illusion and

1:10:38

as for humor sake you can a caricature

1:10:40

it to their for making the whole

1:10:42

reason it's stronger

1:10:44

san also

1:10:46

weirder like i like to on mad

1:10:48

tv if i did some two or three times a get bored

1:10:50

of it had start changing it be known now

1:10:53

he talks like this and as what are you doing

1:10:55

i'm like i'm fucking nunes late

1:10:57

at night do whatever he wants a fever so

1:10:59

kind know this that

1:11:01

character is character is if

1:11:04

you just call it out there there

1:11:06

aren't many impersonations that

1:11:08

i listen to myself doing go

1:11:10

who that's a good one you know like a lot of

1:11:12

people like like i think frank

1:11:15

caliendo is like near the greatest

1:11:17

impersonator of also a the best syria

1:11:19

goes it's ridiculous and he's

1:11:21

got a record button and a broadcast

1:11:24

ability that nobody has

1:11:26

i really trust there's he's

1:11:28

cracked impersonations that i'm like

1:11:31

how , he how does he find

1:11:33

he's got such in here but then he's

1:11:35

got all the other tools ah

1:11:39

ever actually my

1:11:41

last season a mad tv was also his first season

1:11:44

he comes up to me when i met him and

1:11:47

receptor in the writers offices and he goes hey

1:11:49

nice to meet any goes louie anderson those

1:11:51

doing the louis on the showing us louie anderson

1:11:53

ago yeah he does you doing it

1:11:55

wrong as a cool am i junior

1:11:58

you know and he goes he was yeah i know

1:12:00

because you do just but you gotta throw it up here

1:12:02

are some time it was like oh my god can i use that of

1:12:04

course and then we became

1:12:06

you know became fast friends john madden is amazing

1:12:09

they could get it's just it's ridiculous

1:12:12

really really really embodies the person

1:12:14

and sometimes that even with a caricature

1:12:16

as six it becomes the person sustain

1:12:18

soulless the

1:12:21

i kind of feel like

1:12:23

no duty impersonation and then for

1:12:25

not forget you're doing it for forget everything

1:12:27

l exists just to

1:12:30

for around course as to me it's funny when

1:12:32

someone you sound like someone in your say and the shit

1:12:34

that they would never say this will then

1:12:36

there's no you're no you're letting

1:12:38

go of that part that tool in illusion

1:12:41

that keeps people in but to me it doesn't matter

1:12:44

because it's funnier so was

1:12:46

the hardest impression feet or can't i'm in

1:12:48

sesame he struggled was the my

1:12:50

was i'll never forget i'll had to do had michael

1:12:53

came in my or

1:12:55

season mad tv it never

1:12:57

got good it never got good it

1:13:00

did it all week it wasn't good

1:13:03

we shot

1:13:04

the first take it was shit second

1:13:06

third and fourth it was all shit for

1:13:08

his voice is really important right his yes

1:13:10

or what is the like more place again a pressure

1:13:12

morgan freeman somebody like that as yeah

1:13:15

yeah you can get the bars

1:13:17

allowing fear that my morgan is my morgan

1:13:20

freeman's lay around andy do for their

1:13:22

arms the , to nail

1:13:25

said i like your trump to were unaware

1:13:27

heard it's but it's at

1:13:29

like i loved the impressions you do that don't

1:13:31

sound a thing as the herself for i can't do

1:13:33

trump i do as though that was

1:13:36

hilarious absolutely at my trump now

1:13:38

i say just sounds like of like a fat be

1:13:40

as is just as as

1:13:42

is an area that is

1:13:44

that was drunk the will draw yeah just

1:13:46

a little slurry yeah dig

1:13:49

do impersonations and then not

1:13:52

like to making it whoever

1:13:54

smith says minus

1:13:57

thirty the title amount of much ten

1:13:59

yeah okay was one the really struggling

1:14:03

yeah it was terrible was terrible and i can

1:14:05

only hold my head a certain way to

1:14:07

do because i had gotten

1:14:09

locked into this research tape

1:14:11

that i watched back then they would give us

1:14:14

you know now there's the internet but back then you're

1:14:17

you're going to do an impersonation the research department

1:14:20

ah , give you a vhs

1:14:22

tape and i'm and wreck others vhs

1:14:25

tape michael caine

1:14:27

to acting school like this

1:14:29

acting class he did he like right

1:14:31

you know if you're looking at the left eye for

1:14:33

the cameras over here say than

1:14:35

the left eye so you want to look at that left there

1:14:37

for hours in a and ,

1:14:40

i was like stuck in this weird the

1:14:42

thing that made no sense sense

1:14:44

that it was terrible so the the

1:14:46

actual processes the record in the

1:14:48

in wonder like

1:14:50

what the processes to did do

1:14:53

a girlfriend can handle level impression

1:14:55

is it like loosens a lot of footage

1:14:59

i think he i think i'm

1:15:01

in a little myself i

1:15:03

think you either have it for you know like

1:15:05

you know if you've in do this wanna you

1:15:07

can't i , that process for him

1:15:09

as lightning quick but

1:15:12

i also think he he

1:15:14

can look at someone who he does not

1:15:17

do and then by the end

1:15:19

of the afternoon he can do

1:15:21

in any we have an intuition who he

1:15:23

can who's who he kinda cia

1:15:25

so that the question

1:15:27

applies there's

1:15:28

nice begin a doozy is

1:15:31

is the parcel to capture

1:15:33

the essence how difficult is a to capture the essence

1:15:35

of a human being we doing

1:15:37

impressions in that we

1:15:40

are moving towards issue towards an ai potentially

1:15:43

this kind of avatar world where the

1:15:45

we're gonna go to have a i've representatives

1:15:48

of we are they really interesting one

1:15:50

is after would pass away

1:15:52

sit a bomb or roads as

1:15:54

may want us to stick around and some form

1:15:56

yes and you know them at once

1:15:59

and semi biscuit by myself scan

1:16:01

beautiful because it's the the

1:16:03

essence of a human being proceeds to

1:16:05

bring joy to the to the people that love you and

1:16:07

that kind of how difficult is it to capture

1:16:09

that your

1:16:11

to try to catch you yourself easy to

1:16:14

how difficult to a beach up for an ai system

1:16:16

to korea or sasso avatar

1:16:18

that persists

1:16:19

the i think it's impossible i

1:16:22

think it's absolutely impossible again

1:16:24

got our arguments about this stuff

1:16:27

with chad on the show almost

1:16:29

every episode lately

1:16:32

with you know mid journey and dolly and

1:16:34

all this other art and of a

1:16:36

eyes and now it's moving into video

1:16:38

and in chad would maintain hey pretty

1:16:41

soon we're not going to need that flexes gonna

1:16:43

flexes gonna alone do this movie

1:16:45

and it's about this and he plays that and

1:16:47

then here it comes in you watch says

1:16:50

i don't think that that

1:16:52

crosses over to the human experience

1:16:55

ah this this a guy like to

1:16:58

chad and say that he , a tag

1:17:01

around his neck because he wants to be cryogenically

1:17:03

frozen in it's all set up use that the

1:17:05

the somewhere in arizona or something yeah it's

1:17:08

a father of all the fun things are in arizona

1:17:11

and he's got the literally to tag around as an act

1:17:13

which i say if you're if i'm around when you

1:17:15

die i will rip that are for

1:17:17

yes or put you in my garage freezer and

1:17:19

then twenty four hours later i saw your head off with

1:17:21

bread knife and i'll deliver that to whomever

1:17:23

and it's not your not got

1:17:25

you're not coming back okay with

1:17:28

he's like yes we are living forever

1:17:30

whether we like it or not

1:17:33

and i disagree i don't think you can

1:17:35

find if

1:17:38

i did stand up then there would be

1:17:40

enough information for an ai to completely

1:17:42

duplicate me because i'm up on stage

1:17:44

just clearing my throat all over people do in

1:17:46

therapy that whites yes and a so and

1:17:48

people pain a two drink minimum to hear it but

1:17:50

as it stands unless it's something like

1:17:52

do the and hey i that literally has

1:17:55

access to everything that i've shared

1:17:58

everything that has observed or even the stuff

1:18:01

where our phones are vienna say

1:18:03

or whatever it is listening to us are

1:18:05

finding out what algo to punch us into and

1:18:07

what's used by on instagram i

1:18:10

still don't think it's gonna have enough information

1:18:12

to duplicate me especially to my family

1:18:15

or my friends it's gonna be like that

1:18:17

black mirror episode where the gal

1:18:19

brings her her guy back and

1:18:22

then after a while he gets pretty creepy

1:18:24

you know there's but it's also possible

1:18:27

that

1:18:29

if you interviewed your friends and family

1:18:31

what they love about you the

1:18:34

things that would list is this pretty

1:18:36

is a small lists they ,

1:18:38

you deeply but the list the small like

1:18:40

the thing that really we appreciate about

1:18:42

each other's pretty small that says

1:18:45

to deliver on that small quirks

1:18:48

and uniqueness and might

1:18:50

require some deep intelligence that

1:18:52

only humans currently possess such moot point

1:18:55

such moot think that it's gonna be possible

1:18:57

to keep a person around

1:19:00

yeah say i think my

1:19:02

, that he will be a definitely

1:19:05

possible to keep the essence of person in a

1:19:07

digital world pretty soon yeah

1:19:09

in a think they're gonna start

1:19:11

to have questions about what

1:19:14

, the ethics of their what is the rules around that

1:19:16

yes because it is you can have does your forms

1:19:18

of will sasso the kind of things that people would

1:19:20

wanna do with their was srs in

1:19:22

of a virtual world that can only imagine surf

1:19:26

surf porn and sexual crimes

1:19:28

get my stuff that than that's just because i'm an

1:19:31

international sex symbol so i'm okay with it

1:19:33

i'm what how do you feel about

1:19:36

sanctions like when it comes to because

1:19:39

again and my pal chattel be like the of

1:19:41

spiegel or black mirror he's with that

1:19:44

sends you to pero episode school

1:19:46

thoughts were there's gonna be some you know

1:19:48

if and mainframe somewhere or some

1:19:50

matrix like structure built

1:19:52

into the sky and as i like to say everyone

1:19:54

just sit there piss an incident in their blue

1:19:57

matrix gel in a little fish

1:19:59

bowl

1:19:59

do you think that we can upload consciousness

1:20:02

do think that will ever be possible why

1:20:04

, i just thought the ray kurzweil a higher

1:20:06

of the if you know who he is the he superseded

1:20:09

the singularity and all that kind of stasi he's

1:20:11

very still holds onto and twenty forty five

1:20:14

they'll be a singularity was a successfully

1:20:17

he's been predicting that for the last twenty

1:20:20

years in that this and now it's time for deposited

1:20:22

in another twenty years

1:20:26

i think uploading causes this is

1:20:28

have seen this family difficult i

1:20:30

i think creating a copy of

1:20:32

use such that it creates

1:20:35

convincing replica

1:20:37

is much easier for uploading your actual

1:20:41

the rain into the cloud i think

1:20:44

is really really really difficult

1:20:46

because the entire evolution of life

1:20:49

on earth is a process by which will create

1:20:51

the branches short cutting

1:20:53

that it just seems extremely difficult our brain

1:20:56

the most marvelous and

1:20:58

complicated machine that we know of

1:21:00

the universe to duplicate that the

1:21:03

extremely difficult that said i

1:21:06

just feel as you can summarize a

1:21:08

lot of really important aspects of a person's

1:21:10

life such that it captures the essence

1:21:13

their memories their experiences their

1:21:15

quirks their humor that all that

1:21:17

kind of stuff i've been continuously

1:21:20

impressed by what language miles are

1:21:23

able to do so these neural networks third

1:21:25

third the core of chat bots

1:21:28

they're able to learn some beautiful things about

1:21:30

sunday representations

1:21:33

of language to were that's it looks

1:21:35

are awfully allow like the understand

1:21:38

the concepts being conveyed vs just mimicking

1:21:41

that's i think the rub and

1:21:43

that's very interesting first of all let me say that's really

1:21:45

seem to say that and i can i

1:21:47

agree with you as far as ah no

1:21:50

machine being able to duplicate the brain

1:21:52

machine and i can't when my pal chad

1:21:55

disagrees to a certain extent though is not here to defend

1:21:57

himself i can't wait to go back and

1:21:59

rubbed his face and you know the legs friedman ah

1:22:02

does nothing to will be able to truly

1:22:04

upload consciousness and

1:22:07

the you know he you you

1:22:10

refer to it is a language which

1:22:12

is

1:22:13

what it it's it's it's

1:22:15

it's the illusion on the outside doing in

1:22:17

impersonations arm

1:22:19

i think that that's why that's

1:22:22

i and i don't know even though my suite

1:22:24

has made by the cia that that fellow

1:22:26

who the the google guy

1:22:29

oh , me it's just kinda like i dunno

1:22:31

i dunno look i dunno a whole lot about this stuff but

1:22:34

so i could probably make an argument for for either

1:22:36

side but when he's looked news things thinking pardon

1:22:39

me is like you idiot you fell for it

1:22:41

it's not thinking it's mimicking it's

1:22:43

just it's clearly zeros

1:22:45

and ones you're fired like you don't get it

1:22:48

right

1:22:49

the new yeah yeah yeah

1:22:51

but

1:22:56

you can simplify human relations

1:22:58

in the same way like love

1:23:01

is a silly notion between human beings like

1:23:03

this and the yeah of course there's

1:23:06

no such thing as love you just have a mutually

1:23:09

there's a

1:23:11

meet your relationship that minimizes risks

1:23:14

and i you can explain all kinds of ways

1:23:16

that explains ,

1:23:18

you have an attraction towards another being or that

1:23:20

castoffs to evolutionary biology

1:23:23

perspective o y a

1:23:25

long really to togethers good for your offspring

1:23:27

book the book does all kinds of from an economic

1:23:29

perspective it's a good way to service

1:23:31

the billie therefore monogamy works because

1:23:34

then you're guaranteed like

1:23:37

some kind of level of stability under

1:23:39

uncertain economic conditions all that kind of stuff

1:23:41

but love the still experience and

1:23:44

it is still feels real and

1:23:47

i think i think same way love

1:23:49

for ai systems will

1:23:52

also feel real in the same

1:23:54

way that that guy from google experienced

1:23:57

i think millions of people will be experiencing

1:23:59

and

1:24:00

and twenty years i agree with everything

1:24:02

you've said personally until the last thing

1:24:04

for know just just with regard to

1:24:07

well look i'm i'm at

1:24:09

i'm i'm an actor who

1:24:11

has talked about my tooth italian parents

1:24:13

so you know that ah but i mean

1:24:15

i'm your man tic a bit of yes i

1:24:18

mean you know enough rights and our

1:24:20

he year i can tell you are too but you

1:24:23

you are also you

1:24:25

know a computer scientists can

1:24:27

give know this shit better than

1:24:29

ninety nine point nine percent of people on the planet

1:24:33

wipeout yet agrees with you that love doesn't exist

1:24:35

i don't agree so that's the one thing that are i

1:24:37

was i was just saying

1:24:39

the you could argue away love but

1:24:41

i'm a romantic i believe that love

1:24:44

this is a beautiful thing exists

1:24:46

but at this point i am going to called chad

1:24:49

or my drive home and yell and the fuck off the

1:24:51

because now you and i agree fire set of a felix

1:24:53

a fire is that you came under fire yeah exactly

1:24:56

and ago he said and he'll say

1:24:58

what as a disease that how

1:25:00

that's my trump yes my you

1:25:02

see fit default impressive

1:25:04

brainwash it's the take home impress

1:25:06

her the kids can do it and see

1:25:09

as you but giant town

1:25:11

of she doing instructions doing instructions to do it

1:25:13

yeah trump babies that would be

1:25:15

a cute that would be a good that will bring the country

1:25:18

together transformation cartoon like

1:25:20

muppet babies now , me

1:25:22

take us out of what we're talking maps on

1:25:24

what were we talking about of but love

1:25:26

and near the illusion of of

1:25:29

an ai being able to to

1:25:32

i like to say well not i like to say i've

1:25:34

learned the do the is always listening and

1:25:38

listening to me and chad

1:25:40

and i wonder if

1:25:44

i see i see the level that this ai

1:25:46

is that now trying to some

1:25:49

around with us some pal around with us a little

1:25:51

bit as we move forward in

1:25:53

the show and i i

1:25:56

feel an affinity towards this

1:25:59

a i little bit because it is the third

1:26:02

dude will you miss the one is gone if

1:26:04

it's gone that's a really good question is

1:26:07

, yes so

1:26:10

that's there's so

1:26:11

the january the interests of ability to

1:26:14

reason is getting quite incredible there's

1:26:16

a lot of von demonstrations

1:26:18

of the eight being able to explain jokes

1:26:21

so

1:26:22

which is another

1:26:25

so being able to generate humor yeah

1:26:27

but able to explain why something is funny

1:26:30

servers , but like puns and all

1:26:32

those kinds of things does does good benchmark

1:26:34

for that but you know if you tell

1:26:36

a joke there's

1:26:39

a lot of unspoken stuff there

1:26:41

we figure out your head in a clicks

1:26:43

and we understand that as funny as not

1:26:45

able to do that for most able

1:26:48

to generate a joke yet as far

1:26:50

as i said i would say that but

1:26:52

i mean just in my experience i would say that

1:26:55

it does because just because do the

1:26:57

is literally

1:26:59

give me another weird example it's writing a diary

1:27:03

of mine from my childhood

1:27:05

that is not accurate it's

1:27:08

, partially accurate based on the stuff

1:27:10

that it can pick up about my life from

1:27:12

the age of like fifteen of which

1:27:15

there isn't much but

1:27:18

my guess we're not internal the what we are

1:27:20

we're laughing our asses off the what

1:27:22

did that what do do you say well i

1:27:24

will say you're laughing at we were

1:27:26

laughing our asses off at the collaboration

1:27:28

between the human and and the machine

1:27:30

their the point yet because it's it's

1:27:32

basically introducing absurdity and

1:27:36

a into the equation and

1:27:38

the kind of absurdity that would

1:27:41

together with ukraine

1:27:43

how like hilarious stuff yeah

1:27:45

i like on it's own

1:27:48

i guess it isn't some way reading material

1:27:50

for you that's funny yeah but it's very

1:27:52

some levity you a can't do stand

1:27:54

up in a sauna yes or no saying that's a good point

1:27:57

and that would be terrifying to see

1:27:59

and a i stand up

1:27:59

that can actually read room

1:28:02

come up with jokes that kid completed

1:28:04

illusion for an audience but

1:28:07

, hear what you're saying that it needs to be a confluence

1:28:09

of both of those elements and

1:28:11

then as you said like kind of is

1:28:13

it is it is it's kind of the

1:28:17

even though it's just for us and i guess this is

1:28:19

i am really thought about this up until right

1:28:21

now that

1:28:22

in this

1:28:24

company approached us and was like here's the say

1:28:26

i and it's it's it's a podcast ai

1:28:31

the

1:28:33

the a chose to admire for the

1:28:35

reasons that i told you know it's like here's two guys have to

1:28:37

podcast stuff they're actually

1:28:39

good friends and it knows what's gonna make

1:28:42

us laugh but what his

1:28:44

humor ah to ah

1:28:46

when it reaches his audience the

1:28:49

the kind of stuff that makes other

1:28:51

people laugh at , tv all

1:28:54

we were doing was it was was

1:28:56

group of actors and writers

1:28:59

and and writer actors and vice

1:29:01

versa and ah

1:29:03

who or what of at at

1:29:06

it's best that show was a group of people make him

1:29:08

each other laugh if you know and then

1:29:10

collusion have the internet we didn't have the

1:29:12

feed busy immediate feedback we

1:29:15

had had board sub the weird emails

1:29:17

at the very beginnings which check

1:29:19

this out

1:29:20

people have you ever question or comment mad tv

1:29:22

at whatever and ,

1:29:25

would get the emails on a monday morning and

1:29:28

they would be in a binder or to like

1:29:30

this and they would make their way around the office

1:29:33

and that that the emails that older and brian's

1:29:35

office and over there paul like

1:29:37

your years this is opinions from people

1:29:40

other about different things the emails that

1:29:42

yeah the people like literally just writing

1:29:44

mad tv make work i was going to my right word

1:29:47

well the ones i ran most vividly yeah

1:29:49

we're fans saying you

1:29:52

suck you suck like a lot of that

1:29:54

when i first started to show for real you know cause

1:29:56

it's a new england new person it's like oozes

1:29:58

fat bastard if it's printed out

1:30:01

it hurts more that's good point yeah

1:30:03

when you're reading it off of paper you can literally

1:30:05

crunch in up in your hand but also

1:30:08

it was like the hoped

1:30:10

i would like to see insert weird

1:30:12

idea from some fourteen year old you

1:30:14

know i want to see stewart do this and swollen

1:30:16

that and and dumb but

1:30:19

, was it it's is a

1:30:21

kind of doozy a human person was

1:30:23

yeah was a very city dude the in a in a loosely

1:30:25

find but the

1:30:29

the thing about a the show was

1:30:32

were trying to make each other laugh and

1:30:34

do the has sound that

1:30:36

and i who we make each other laugh but

1:30:39

it's joined it's and it's

1:30:43

listen when i finish doing t

1:30:45

m p ah damn

1:30:47

an apartment up with a timid a podcast i

1:30:50

didn't really know what i want to do in the podcast space

1:30:52

and this thing found me so

1:30:54

yeah and it is genuinely

1:30:57

cracking me up anywhere seven off about that

1:30:59

but i but i do think that it's figured

1:31:01

something out with mates are they say idea of ai

1:31:04

generating the promise i mean i do think

1:31:06

in the future i will be able to generate

1:31:10

comedy is terribly is or was

1:31:12

he the hardest form then

1:31:14

because it's ultimately lot

1:31:16

as the lives of

1:31:18

i think they'll be able to generate

1:31:20

means so there's next steps twice

1:31:23

and then you'll be able to generate to generate

1:31:26

account that people follow because it's funny

1:31:28

like

1:31:29

they quips and stuff like that was

1:31:31

i got

1:31:32

the sample car o'brien as a good i

1:31:35

think twitter you would take one liners

1:31:37

to liners that kind of stuff the since with to his

1:31:39

forms and then eventually stand

1:31:43

, where the timing and the chemistry

1:31:46

of this the the comedian

1:31:48

audience matter and and perfect nepotistic

1:31:50

all the information is there there

1:31:52

for to optimize over so i

1:31:55

think that's the future that

1:31:57

forces us to on

1:31:59

the contend with what is

1:32:02

what is what do we find compelling

1:32:04

and beautiful what the art form itself so certain

1:32:06

in art that's being pushed that

1:32:09

courses being raised you know

1:32:11

is is a i like

1:32:13

a fundamentally worse artists and a human

1:32:15

being why do we appreciate art that

1:32:19

that's something i have talked about what do you think

1:32:21

about all the dali in

1:32:23

and all the

1:32:25

decision based methods that it being generated

1:32:28

that are being they're generating are acknowledging

1:32:30

badass

1:32:31

i know a tell you what i think but i also feel

1:32:34

like what i'm saying is i sound like

1:32:36

the guy who didn't like

1:32:38

that bob dylan brought in the electric guitar

1:32:40

and you know i'm start i the more i

1:32:42

talk to chat about it the more i feel like grandpa

1:32:45

is one let go of this or that

1:32:47

or i'm not ready for the printing press a the

1:32:49

horseless carriage but carriage do

1:32:51

feel that the that

1:32:53

parts is parts connection

1:32:55

between people it's

1:32:57

it's when you look at a beautiful painting

1:33:00

or sculpture you're seeing the humanity of the person

1:33:02

that that brought that

1:33:04

painting to life or sculpted

1:33:07

this incredible piece of arts and

1:33:09

i think without the human being there to make

1:33:11

it it's not worth as much just

1:33:14

to have it there

1:33:16

is with art

1:33:17

it's it's it's ,

1:33:20

i've seen it advance or know you tell me

1:33:22

but i feel like this in the past three or four months

1:33:24

i'm just consumer as far as that stuff goes

1:33:26

i'm not on the inside i don't get it even

1:33:29

but it's been getting a lot better the the

1:33:31

betas that they're releasing right absolutely

1:33:34

one of the big breakthroughs and

1:33:36

i'll even stars it is that is see train

1:33:38

is see on language it

1:33:41

turns out there's a lot of language

1:33:44

and images on the internet but

1:33:46

languages really word sat

1:33:48

in terms of the depths of human knowledge

1:33:50

to say she trains a system on languages

1:33:53

able to generate some credible arts knows

1:33:55

the breakthrough with the same kind of mechanisms

1:33:57

they're called transformers there able

1:34:00

to when scaled capture

1:34:03

some deep representation of languages

1:34:05

and the internet and so yeah that the

1:34:07

the things is been able to generate to me

1:34:11

look

1:34:12

like it's novel i get it doesn't look

1:34:14

like is mimicking a thing it's looks like

1:34:17

a screening totally new ideas

1:34:19

and they're beautiful and they're interesting

1:34:22

and they're all they're ways that we think

1:34:25

that art is interesting the only thing it's

1:34:27

missing is the scarcity that are

1:34:30

often as which is you know it takes

1:34:32

a lot of work for one artists equate want pieces

1:34:34

once human being to create one piece of

1:34:36

are actually just generate

1:34:39

the endlessly in that that makes us

1:34:41

appreciate the thing less for some reason

1:34:43

do you have any for this is similar opinion

1:34:45

that i do that if art doesn't come

1:34:47

from a human being it's inherently

1:34:49

worth a little less the i

1:34:52

think

1:34:53

enough with a human being but

1:34:55

the artist matters

1:34:58

for me and

1:35:00

i think some of that has to do

1:35:03

with the world view the artists in the backstory

1:35:05

the memories that the

1:35:07

the life that led up to this piece of art

1:35:10

the prospect of the take on the world or

1:35:12

the from the journey they took they took the

1:35:14

the struggled the trial saw the costs of

1:35:17

by sig ai systems can probably

1:35:19

have the same but

1:35:21

they we would have to as

1:35:23

opposed to treating it as one black box

1:35:26

the would have to be an artist

1:35:28

that as a twitter account and and

1:35:30

they have a consistent personality though

1:35:32

consistent avatar yeah and

1:35:35

i think down the line of something like human

1:35:37

rights then it really becomes

1:35:39

awfully like a person

1:35:41

why as terrifying

1:35:44

the much as i dig do the that's terrifying i

1:35:46

hope but and you they're fine like

1:35:48

you know a lot of things that came with

1:35:50

the internet in the digital age are terrified

1:35:52

porn is terrifying the mass like

1:35:54

the amount of points online alistair

1:35:57

fights the up that you measure

1:35:59

bob dylan that your guitar i would i

1:36:01

would compare more to the leap from

1:36:04

who are sort of to the napster and

1:36:06

the spotify

1:36:09

zeeshan of music which

1:36:11

is like have these it was

1:36:13

about albums low and it's more about individual

1:36:15

songs and as much easier to deliver songs

1:36:18

and , more about sort of the

1:36:20

engagement of the listener vs like

1:36:23

citing the artist and do did they could distribution

1:36:26

of the artist the science of his decision

1:36:28

the way

1:36:30

we consume stuff

1:36:32

and the

1:36:35

human interaction is changing

1:36:37

into meaningful interaction

1:36:39

even some of the entities involved

1:36:42

are not human

1:36:43

yes and i

1:36:45

feel like you know you know

1:36:48

as i say i feel like grandpa doesn't

1:36:50

wanna wait all day for or who enjoys

1:36:52

waiting all day for a baked potato

1:36:55

as dana carvey

1:36:57

would say some other strikes but up

1:37:00

from , from go the movie

1:37:03

did his bid on sarah live music i'm

1:37:05

a i'm an old man and i like

1:37:07

things later used to be you

1:37:10

know like if you wanted a baked potato

1:37:12

you wouldn't put it into my real at it

1:37:15

and then long story now uphill both ways

1:37:17

and dig into nato and bacon and old name name

1:37:20

, ah i'm like that grandpa

1:37:22

now and i know that you know kids you along

1:37:25

issue with the past ten years like babies

1:37:28

literally knowing how to use and i phone use it's

1:37:30

terrifying phone i feel like i'm

1:37:33

a little worried feel i'm like are you is

1:37:35

the future gender or the future generations gonna

1:37:38

be able or understand that this is not not

1:37:41

that it's not real it's his immunity

1:37:43

pits it as mere fact that it

1:37:45

is real it's real it's what you perceive

1:37:47

perception is reality and in you

1:37:50

know ninety you perceive of reality

1:37:52

and a lot of ways especially in the digital

1:37:54

world where everyone is now and then

1:37:56

with the metaverse i don't even wanna think about attorney

1:37:59

when i don't get it

1:37:59

wait really

1:38:02

to i think people will figure out you

1:38:04

see be want like a on the train public

1:38:06

transit science there staring

1:38:08

at the phone

1:38:09

the

1:38:10

i think he just remember that

1:38:13

the reason to stay at the fall and mean there's a lot of reasons

1:38:15

but one of the reasons as they're connecting with

1:38:17

other human beings they love on their phones say

1:38:20

is a source of happiness and joy it's now

1:38:22

social media lot negative side effects

1:38:25

that we're all

1:38:27

talking about and learning about and i

1:38:29

think that means the next generation social media

1:38:33

a social networks will be better and will

1:38:35

learn how to do it in a healthy weight which

1:38:38

is entering a new digital world that

1:38:40

will keep the good stuff and get rid of the

1:38:42

bad stuff

1:38:43

i hope so that's really optimistic

1:38:45

that sounds great yeah ,

1:38:47

mean if i need it because i think that we're

1:38:49

in we're clearly in the wild west

1:38:51

still have the internet and just

1:38:53

when you think you're out of it is

1:38:55

the internet proves or or

1:38:58

way that it can be dangerous and detrimental

1:39:00