Randy Boyagoda is a Catholic who has written four novels, most recently, Dante's Indiana. Though he loves reading Flannery O’Connor, he confesses that at one point he was thoroughly sick of hearing about her. We discuss why that is so in today’s conversation among Randy, myself, and Shannon Valenzuela of the University of Dallas. We also explore the pleasures of immersive reading and why it’s worth training oneself to read deeply, what happens when a writer doesn’t love her characters, and how stories can train both the mind and the heart.

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