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Let me talk about let me go.

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He said he lived in life as a Lingo, where

0:13

you question when you fit in. Every time you mingo,

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they say you do this with not that my

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rapper is really bad.

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Yes, hello, and welcome to another episode

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of Life as a Gringo. I am

0:26

dramas of course, and

0:29

then I'm I'm really excited about

0:31

today's episode. I think particularly

0:33

because we're in the midst of

0:35

Hispanic Heritage Month, Latin X

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Heritage Month, Latine Heritage Month,

0:40

Latin Harrige Month, whatever you want to call it, whatever

0:42

makes sense for you. Um,

0:44

but but we're in the midst of celebrating

0:46

our culture. And I

0:49

I had on for you know, the

0:52

The Last Man. Last week we had Chris

0:54

Ribas, who has an incredible story about being

0:56

a Latino in Hollywood, and

0:59

we had Luis on the

1:01

Thursday Trends episode. We spoke a lot about Puerto

1:03

Rico and all that's happening over there, and

1:05

and today I wanted to to share

1:07

an interview that I did. Uh. It was probably

1:10

a week after we we

1:12

ended season one. It was just one of those things where

1:14

I couldn't fit it in schedule wise

1:17

until last season. But

1:19

it's one of those ones that I want to make sure you

1:21

guys get to hear because I just think this person has

1:23

such an incredible story and and it's Doris

1:26

and Ahi and anybody who's not familiar. I had

1:28

actually mentioned Disney getting

1:30

behind a documentary about

1:33

two Latin women, and actually

1:35

this is his Doris Is documentary. Just kind

1:37

of the way the universe works. Um, I

1:39

happen to know her pr person randomly

1:43

and and we're able to get herund the show and the documentary

1:45

is called Mihats on Disney Disney Plus.

1:48

But but man, she has such an incredible story

1:50

and it's and it's the immigrant experience, you know. And I

1:53

think it's important for me to do

1:55

my best to showcase, you know,

1:57

the variety of Latin voices

1:59

that that exists in our community, right, you know,

2:01

because I've said this a many times, but as

2:04

a Puerto Rican I can't necessarily

2:07

um wholeheartedly in

2:09

the literal sense, relate to everything. You

2:11

know, people like our our Mexican brothers and sisters

2:14

go through, right, and it's important for me

2:16

to give space for them to share their story,

2:18

but also for me to educate myself on things that I'm

2:20

not keen to as far as the everyday

2:22

lives and the everyday struggles

2:25

that that people face coming from from many

2:27

of these beautiful countries that that represent the Latin

2:29

aspert. So Doors has an incredible

2:32

man immigrant story. It's one that I'm sure residents

2:34

with a lot of people listening to this, uh you

2:36

know, when it comes to man her being

2:38

if I'm not mistake of the only person

2:40

who is an actual citizen in her family

2:43

and bearing that burden of you

2:45

know, her essentially being given this goal

2:48

that ticking in their eyes, right, and and not to

2:50

mess it up by uh not picking

2:52

a life that's worthy of of that man

2:55

opportunity. Right. So Doris,

2:58

you know, bounced around in the music indust tree

3:00

and has been chasing her dreams now is an artist

3:02

herself after managing artist and working

3:04

for record labels. So we'll get into all of that.

3:07

I want to dive into her story. So we'll

3:09

have a kind of a long me hint this segment, and

3:11

then we'll get into our ask a Goodingo

3:13

segment where I allow y'all to to you know, chime

3:16

in on this this sort of conversation or

3:18

question. It's based off the conversation that I have with doors,

3:20

but without further ado. Man, let's

3:22

let's get into this conversation because I just think it was incredibly

3:25

moving and inspiring for me, and I think, man, a

3:27

lot of you are probably gonna resonate with this as well.

3:36

My guest today is the focus

3:38

of the new Disney Plus documentary

3:41

Miha. She also has her

3:43

debut EP,

3:47

which I know I just butchered a bit here with my broken

3:50

Spanish, but it is

3:52

out everywhere right now. Doris,

3:55

And how are you doing? I'm

3:57

doing as good as it's

3:59

a thing, well coast ride,

4:01

but we're holding on tight. I

4:05

love that. I love I love the honesty

4:07

in that answer right now because most people

4:09

would just kind of be like bullshit in a little

4:11

bit like our greatest ride ever, I'm having the

4:14

best. I'm for sure. Oh no, I'm gonna

4:16

be realized how that it's it

4:19

has its ups and downs and like everything

4:21

is different, but I'm super faithful to be

4:24

here, Like, I

4:27

mean, that's that's a beautiful thing. I mean, I'm

4:29

guessing you're you're talking about. I mean, the it's

4:32

I'm sure a lot of pressure, a lot of work,

4:34

a lot of time going into promoting

4:36

this and putting your story out there is

4:38

I'm sure what you're kind of expressing if I'm not mistaken.

4:41

Oh yeah, I mean I think it's like, sorry,

4:45

he's trying to defend me, right, I think someone fucking

4:48

across little l a dog just

4:51

doing her kind

4:53

about to do You're good.

4:57

Yeah, I mean it's a lot of trouble. Like

4:59

people think it's it's glamorous, but

5:01

it's like, you know, sometimes

5:03

you take a red eye to New

5:06

York and then your terminal gets shut down, and then

5:08

you're flight gets the late twelve hours and

5:10

then you

5:12

know, like they're all,

5:15

uh, walk in the park. It's absolutely

5:17

work and travel takes a toll on

5:19

you and and your

5:22

schedule is slam. But it's like I'm

5:24

doing things that I would have never

5:26

imagine, like far beyond the realm of

5:29

my imagination, that's for sure. So

5:31

I yeah, it's it's holding

5:33

space for both right, where like, yeah,

5:37

I'm grateful for all this, but I'm like, oh my god,

5:39

Yeah, it's a lot. You're running

5:41

here, running there, Um, you

5:43

try to find moments for yourself. But yeah,

5:45

it's a it's like a it's a it's a balancing act

5:47

of trying to remain the saying I can only imagine

5:50

that I want to. So, I mean,

5:52

let's let's kind of talk about this, this

5:54

whole story of yours for anybody not familiar,

5:57

because there maybe there's some

6:00

people out there who haven't heard of all

6:02

that's going on. I know me has gotten a lot of

6:04

attention. I actually talked about it on the

6:06

podcast a few months ago when they announced

6:08

it, um that Disney Plus was putting

6:10

this out and was just like celebrating the fact that

6:13

a Latin story was getting told, like

6:15

this an authentic Latin story. So, I

6:17

mean, anybody not familiar,

6:19

let's just kind of start there. What is the

6:21

premise of this documentary of yours? Mi huh.

6:23

I mean, it's the story. It's

6:25

an immigration story, and like music

6:28

is really what I mean that dis guise

6:30

is it per se, but it's really like the

6:33

vehicle that moves it, you know at

6:35

the end of the day, like we deserve

6:38

these moments of joy and not just like having

6:40

to relive a lot of trauma. And

6:43

so uh

6:47

you hear her at the background, she's defending my honor

6:49

right now. But

6:52

yeah, it's about the complex narrative of

6:54

being a kid of immigrants in the United

6:57

States and that like you

6:59

know that, you know, I say this in the phone,

7:01

but like how dreaming big does take a toll,

7:04

you know, and living with that

7:06

pressure to succeed in order to honor your

7:08

parents sacrifice to come to this country.

7:10

And I think, like, um,

7:13

not many stories really tell that,

7:15

and so it's it's vulnerable, it's

7:18

honest, um And

7:21

so yeah, it's at the intersective music

7:23

and immigration, and I think

7:25

would really connect intergenerationally.

7:29

I I want to focus on something you

7:31

just said because I'm connecting

7:34

to and I'd love for you to kind of expound upon it a

7:36

bit. Uh, dreaming big takes

7:38

a toll, kinda break

7:40

that that down a little bit. What

7:42

does that exactly mean? Because I

7:45

think it's not spoken about

7:47

quite enough. You know, we hear all

7:49

these glamorized stories of people coming up,

7:51

but you know we we quite

7:53

frekently don't hear kind of all that comes

7:56

along with, you know, trying to bring these ideas

7:58

to life. And the bigger your ideas get, you know,

8:01

the more trouble that you also invite

8:03

in. So I mean that's kind of talk about that a bit.

8:05

Oh yeah, that's a very true statement. Right,

8:08

It's like there's more money, more problems,

8:11

but in a more

8:13

expanded way. Yeah. I mean, I

8:16

think my whole journey trying to make it in the music

8:18

industry is reflective of that, you know, Like

8:20

it wasn't until like my last year in

8:22

college I decided to pursue the music

8:24

industry instead of pursuing

8:26

like an education, like

8:29

I was going to be a teacher, and then

8:31

I, yeah, I

8:33

I completely switched gear

8:35

before I got to start my credential program and tried

8:37

to like make my way into

8:39

the music industry. And I learned my lessons very

8:41

early on, when you know, I was like,

8:43

oh, you have to work for free to like trying

8:46

to get a job. And

8:49

that was like my era of interning and

8:51

having to like do like the wildest

8:53

turnovers because I was given opportunity, and I wanted

8:55

to say, yes, you have your opportunity because I think um

8:59

as a kid of immigrant who didn't really

9:01

have like a blueprint before them,

9:03

you know, we don't really get to experience the blessings

9:05

of nepotism and the entertainment industry,

9:07

like like, uh, we can't

9:10

say no to to an opportunity

9:12

and so I remember interning in Hollywood

9:14

Monday nights and closing

9:17

at like one in the morning, and then having to be

9:19

in Beverly Hillston, Internet Sony at nine in

9:21

the morning. Like sometimes I just slept in

9:23

my car because there was no point in driving back to

9:25

like Orange Country where I was going to school

9:27

to like make my way back to l A. So

9:30

when I started working in the music industry, you know, I

9:32

had big dreams of and I

9:34

got a job as a tour manager, as a day to day

9:36

manager for a pop artist signed to Columbia

9:38

Records. And then later that fall,

9:41

a few months after I finally moved back to

9:43

l A, I got let go because

9:45

there was there was no budget for me anymore.

9:48

And I learned my big lesson

9:50

in the music industry that nothing is stable there, and

9:53

so you know, I had to like follow

9:55

and face a bit, you know temp.

9:57

You know, I was, I was the front desk early for

10:00

for some time, you know, doing

10:02

coach check work in the door, passing

10:04

out flyers, driving uber

10:07

like the whole thing. And then I started my own

10:09

company. And then that was

10:11

three years of like absolute

10:16

like a similar roller coaster ride. We're traveling

10:18

all over the world. All of our dreams are coming true,

10:21

and then come the pandemic happens

10:23

in my entire industry is shut down, you

10:25

know, So I think that's what I referred

10:27

to. And the dreaming big takes a toll, because

10:30

dreaming big requires a risk and

10:33

doesn't necessarily entail stability

10:36

nor security, you know, like we're

10:38

not just taking a nine to five job

10:40

here, and like, no shame to those who

10:43

like choose that path for themselves,

10:45

but for those who do want

10:47

to pursue their dreams, it

10:51

isn't It isn't easy. It's

10:54

easy at all, and it takes on your toll

10:56

and your mind, body, spirit, the whole, the

10:59

whole thing, if you're really like fully dedicated

11:01

to it. I want

11:03

to I want to talk about the trauma of the music

11:05

industry a little bit, uh, because

11:08

I have a similar story

11:10

throughout my path, you know, playing in bands

11:12

and then you know, interning at record labels, working in radio

11:14

and now podcasting. But you know, I've

11:16

gone through a similar story and I've

11:19

only now come to a place in my life

11:21

where I feel comfortable saying no to

11:23

particular opportunities right and

11:25

and realizing that every time

11:28

I say yes to something, I'm saying

11:30

no to something else basically in my personal life,

11:32

right, And for a long time I didn't realize that because

11:34

what always happens is you get the opportunity

11:36

to do something, and it always somehow falls on

11:39

the same date of like you know, your significant

11:41

other's birthday or whatever it is. Right, you always

11:44

are forced to make this this choice,

11:46

and you keep saying yes out

11:48

of fear of kind of like the well drying

11:50

up, right, the opportunities drying up, And

11:53

and also understanding that a

11:55

career in the entertainment industry generally

11:57

only lasts for but so long, right, and you have

11:59

to to make the most of the time that you're

12:02

given. So I mean, let's let's

12:04

kind of touch on a little bit of that, you know.

12:06

I mean, I'm sure you've gone through the ups and downs

12:08

of trying to find the balance in

12:10

your life while still trying to

12:12

pursue this career. I mean, can you

12:14

kind of talk about some of those those struggles and

12:16

have you found any of that balance now? I

12:19

have? Now I have. I think

12:21

now that we're in promo land, I

12:23

am totally conscious that, like I'm

12:25

here to do the work, I'm hearing to like

12:28

to champion what we're doing and

12:31

carry this film on my back, Like I

12:33

really believe in what's happening

12:35

right now, what we're doing. But like if you

12:37

ask me the same question, like a few years ago,

12:40

um, I was full like what

12:43

is it? Guess like girl bust, keep

12:45

like that, but

12:48

like but like I was definitely

12:50

in that like girl Bust mindset of like

12:53

burning myself to the

12:55

ground, Like I burned

12:57

out hard and I crashed

13:00

in the pandemic, like when I finally stopped,

13:03

When I finally stopped, because I mean

13:05

for three years prior to the pandemic,

13:07

I started my company, and

13:10

all of a sudden, like I was NonStop touring,

13:12

Like I was touring from the moment

13:14

I graduated college in sixteen too.

13:17

When I started managing, like seventeen,

13:20

it was a little bit of a lull, and then we like picked

13:22

it back up and then we're like NonStop touring.

13:25

And and on top of all of that, like

13:27

I think people started to acknowledge

13:30

the work that I was doing as a manager as well. So

13:32

on top of doing the work as a manager, I was also

13:34

doing the work of like going to like speak at universities

13:37

or speaking at high schools and like that

13:39

comes from the heart, you know, and or or

13:41

then I was starting to get asked to like speak at panels

13:44

and stuff like industry wise, and

13:46

it all came from from a

13:48

good place of wanting to like pass along

13:50

knowledge or or connect

13:53

with community that like really needs

13:55

to feel like represented in

13:58

you know, there's not a lot of Latinos in the music industry,

14:00

especially in the general market, And so I

14:03

kept saying yes to everything, like and I

14:05

referred to this in the film Um

14:07

that like I was like smashing myself into like a

14:09

million pieces to give it to everyone

14:11

else except myself. And

14:15

so I think, like, as you grow in your

14:17

career, you can afford to say no right

14:19

or say no thank you,

14:21

not right now, and like, you know, you can find

14:24

a way to leave a door open or have

14:26

it be you know, like it's all of its all

14:28

respect. It's just I don't have the bandwidth right now.

14:30

But before I didn't know how to say I

14:32

don't have the bandwidth for this right now, because I didn't

14:34

want to disappoint people. And it wasn't

14:37

until this last year, the lesson year

14:39

ago, I was at a crossroads of taking

14:41

a full time job with the music industry, so continuing

14:44

the music executive route or

14:47

follow these open doors, uh

14:49

and expressing myself as an artist. And

14:52

that was one of the most difficult decisions I had to make

14:54

in my life where I had to realize, like I couldn't

14:56

do both, like as much as I wanted to, like, uh,

14:59

there's only one of me and already burned myself at

15:01

once. Already I'm already had a

15:03

mental breakdown once. I want to do that to myself again,

15:05

not really right. But

15:08

for those who are like in college

15:10

and are trying to like intern

15:13

and like make their way and find

15:16

an open door, you can't really afford

15:18

to say no there, you know. So I was like a

15:21

wait, I was like working two jobs as

15:23

a waitress on the weekends, pulling doubles

15:26

just so I can afford to intern, Like

15:28

I worked. I worked two jobs so

15:31

I can work two internships for free.

15:35

Then of that fucking statement,

15:37

though, and it resonates so hard with me,

15:40

It was so rough. But I was just like,

15:44

right, right, But here's the thing. I mean,

15:46

I don't condone like pushing yourself. I

15:50

don't do but you

15:52

do have to have, Like, if you're genuinely

15:54

gonna be chasing after a dream and fighting

15:57

against the norm of like what society

16:00

dictates is a career path, right,

16:02

there has to be some sort of level of obsession.

16:05

I think you can find a healthy way to be obsessed

16:07

with it in general. But I think

16:09

a lot of people get so

16:11

caught up with the glitz and glamor of it all.

16:14

And and you have to really ask yourself

16:16

when pursuing any dream. You know, it's like, do

16:18

I do I really love this enough to

16:21

be eating all of the ship that I'm gonna have to do and

16:23

to be sort of not be able to hang out with my friends

16:25

the way I want to not have a normal social life,

16:27

Like is it worth that for me? You know? You have

16:29

to truly ask yourself that

16:32

that question. And it's okay if that your answer

16:34

is no, Right, Like, it's okay if the

16:36

answer is no, I'd rather have a more stable lifestyle.

16:38

But I feel like a lot of people don't recognize

16:41

kind of you know, the level of sacrifice that

16:43

it takes to truly kind of live

16:45

these these this life of freedom essentially,

16:48

right, personal freedom that makes sense for you?

16:50

Well, yeah, and I totally forgot to like

16:52

even acknowledge the personal part of it,

16:54

like and and me learning that like, oh

16:57

my god, I missed weddings about these unfortunately,

17:01

like funerals like birthdays,

17:04

like really like missing

17:08

moments to like because I was always on the road,

17:10

you know, sometimes for like months at

17:12

a time, and so I

17:15

missed like moments of just like

17:17

cultivating community and

17:19

fostering my relationships, like nurturing

17:22

my relationships, you know. And so I

17:25

think, like you know, in your

17:27

twenties anyway, it happens like

17:29

certain friendships like fall away, etcetera,

17:32

Like things get weeded out. But there

17:35

was a lot of sacrifice that I had to make that not necessarily

17:37

understood, not and not everyone understood because

17:39

my dues. I was twenty three years old

17:42

when I started my business, So I couldn't

17:44

necessarily relate to my

17:47

friends most of the time because

17:49

they just didn't get it when it came to the amount

17:51

of sacrifice had to make because I

17:54

was just like, guys, like this isn't just for me, Like I'm

17:56

taking care of my family, like please please

17:58

understand, like I'm gonna provide. They're like this

18:01

isn't I don't do this just because like I

18:03

want to, you know, I have to, like

18:07

I don't. I don't have a choice, and so my

18:09

family understood, you know, and like,

18:12

um, it was really sad to like see

18:14

like my nieces and nephew like grow

18:16

up so quickly and not being able to see like

18:19

those moments, like I love my family so

18:21

much. They lived down the street from me, but like but

18:25

you know, like I've been now on the

18:27

road too for some time, and I saw like my

18:30

nieces and my nephew for the first time last night,

18:32

and like like a couple of months and

18:34

they lived on the street. Like it's

18:37

it's hard out here, but like

18:41

nothing will then take away the moments of

18:43

like seeing like my baby knees, like looking at

18:45

the big screen last night and realizing like

18:47

I was on there. She was sitting right next to me. She was like

18:49

looking at me, and she's like two years I

18:52

mean, she's looking at the big screen. She's like pointing

18:54

at it, and like she sees my

18:56

my dad and she calls my she calls her because

18:59

she can't say what you do, but like ta

19:02

like like like daddy,

19:04

Like she's like, you know, she saw my my Like

19:06

the archival footage of our family

19:08

and you know, saw her dad and was like Daddy is

19:11

like where's daddy? Like my sister

19:13

glad to be like that is working right now?

19:16

Like um, And so those

19:18

moments are like what makes all the sacrifice

19:21

worthwhile? But you

19:23

know, having to come to terms with not everyone's doesn't necessarily

19:26

understand the kind of sacrifices you need to

19:28

make. And as long as you go to

19:30

bed and you're at peace with what you need to

19:33

to do or not do, like it's

19:36

it's a consistent balancing

19:38

act, Like there's

19:41

no formula to like these

19:43

are the things I say no to and to

19:45

like yeah, I mean, we're all figuring it out

19:48

as we go along, right. Unfortunately,

19:50

you can't be taught every situation.

19:52

You know, you kind of have to learn on the fly. I'm

19:55

loving the conversation and

19:57

we're getting into it. But let's let's take

19:59

a quick break here and then we'll be right back.

20:03

All right, we are back, So let's talk

20:05

about your family. Since you're you're mentioning them, you know,

20:08

this is obviously a complete left

20:10

turn from anything that like any of them

20:12

have ever experienced, right, your choice of

20:15

career, but you're the product of

20:18

an immigrant family, right. And if I'm not mistaken,

20:20

the your parents were undocumented, right,

20:22

And and you're you're living

20:24

with this fear, and you talk about this in the documentary. You're

20:26

living with this fear of your parents being

20:28

deported. Right. Um, I

20:31

mean, can you kind of talk a bit about

20:34

the mental health aspect of that, you

20:36

know, because as as much

20:38

as I I can sympathize with

20:40

your story, you know, my parents are a Puerto Rican,

20:42

right, So I don't share in that same kind

20:44

of uh, you know, fear. Right. I

20:47

didn't grow up with that, but I can only imagine

20:49

the burden it was every single day having

20:51

that kind of cloud over your head. I mean, you mind

20:54

kind of talking a bit about what it was like growing

20:56

up with that constant fear being a real thing

20:58

you have to deal with every day. Oh my god. Yeah.

21:00

I mean I was like very conscious of it

21:02

since I was a very young girl. You

21:04

know, Like it wasn't just my parents, was also my

21:06

brothers. So like I was the only

21:09

one who had like security

21:11

of having papers in this country.

21:14

And so you know, my

21:16

parents, I think we're harder

21:18

on my brothers on on when

21:20

it came to like living in fear because

21:23

they just wanted my brothers to get out of trouble, stay

21:26

out of trouble, so that way they

21:28

didn't have to face possible like you

21:31

know, run ins with law enforcement.

21:34

That that wouldn't that them would out the

21:36

whole family, right, And I

21:38

think like my oldest brother

21:41

really internalized that and then passed out alone to

21:43

me and was very hard on me growing up. But I know it

21:45

was like tough love because he wanted

21:48

me to succeed because he saw that. What

21:50

I specifically remember I'm

21:53

telling me is that like you have the key to

21:55

this country and it's called the Social Security

21:57

number. I don't have that. Your

22:00

other doesn't have that, our parents still have that.

22:02

You have that. You're the only one in this family

22:04

that has that. You can go to college, you can

22:06

get a job. I can't do that, Go

22:08

and do that for us, you know, And

22:11

so imagine that like me like seven

22:14

years old, like

22:17

like taking that in and stuff.

22:19

And so my trauma response was overachieving

22:22

and and so from and

22:24

it followed me my whole life. And

22:27

so from a young young girl,

22:30

like I remember my dad telling me she wanted

22:32

me to be and now we got that to help

22:34

our people. And

22:36

I was like, all right, bet, I'm seven years

22:38

old and you want me to be an immigration Like

22:41

I'm you know, I want to legally bone one

22:43

timetime. I go to Harvard, like let's do this.

22:46

And so like since I was like in second

22:48

grade, I was like site set

22:50

on like an Ivy League education and

22:53

like think everything that I could to like get

22:56

like you know, I was a straining student. And then

22:58

high school happened, and then uh,

23:01

you know, that's when I really

23:03

got to experience like the fear

23:05

of my family possibly like being

23:08

stripped away from me like happened in real life.

23:10

And like both my brothers were detained while I was

23:12

in high school and and weren't

23:14

deported, but you know, like

23:17

both of them separately had their their moments

23:19

with with ice. And my mom got

23:21

like, um, you know, pulled

23:23

over by by the police and her

23:26

and her and a car got repossessed

23:28

because she was driving without a license because undocumented

23:31

you can't get a license. Well now you can, but

23:33

like um, and

23:35

so seeing that and like seeing my dad

23:37

used his job because he didn't have the proper

23:40

documentation, and like all of this weight

23:42

really crushed me. And I think

23:45

in high school. Thing. It was the first time that ever saw that

23:47

manifest like in real mental

23:49

health like problems

23:52

that I didn't even know the language

23:54

to like name it right, Like I

23:56

had like my first anxiety at tech in high school,

23:59

and I had no idea what it what it even

24:01

was, and it affected me and it affected my grades,

24:03

and like you know what I

24:05

was in high school. I started being creative and I

24:07

was like a fire and in theater. But I

24:09

was also like an a S B kid and

24:12

I was an all Honors a P

24:14

student, and I

24:16

was carrying a lot and I had no idea what

24:20

told that would take on me at such a young

24:22

age. But like my

24:24

therapist, you know, I've been doing the work, the

24:26

work, the work, the work we stay in this house,

24:28

and my therapists reminds

24:30

me is that I was consistently living in survival

24:32

mode, you know, like every single

24:35

day waking up with the fear that one day I

24:37

that this could be the day I come frome from

24:39

school and my family isn't there, Like that

24:43

that's so wild to me, you know that, Like,

24:45

but I'm one of millions

24:48

of kids that have to deal with that fear, you

24:50

know, living in a mixed status family or

24:53

you know, it's eleven million undocumented immigrants

24:55

in the United States and they all have

24:57

to live with that fear and still like live their

25:00

day to day lives. And you know,

25:02

as an adult and really understanding how

25:04

to name like okay, abouts

25:06

of anxiety trigger depressive

25:09

episodes and then having to like manage

25:11

that and maintain that, and like having

25:13

those conversations with my parents and with my

25:16

family, and like, you know, having

25:18

challenging conversations with extended family

25:20

surrounding um them

25:23

not believing quote unquote believing

25:25

in depression. And I'm like, that's what if I

25:27

don't believe in your diabetes. That's why the

25:33

school go to church. Literally,

25:35

I was raised an evangelic

25:38

in an evangelical church. I was raised in

25:40

the ministry. I was raised singing in the church.

25:42

I was raised by like theo cpist

25:45

you know, our pastors, worship leaders, etcetera.

25:48

And so having a conversation

25:50

surrounding mental health and like actually like doing

25:53

the work to do so. Like I didn't start saying

25:55

therapists until like three years ago, And

25:58

I wish I started going get a a

26:00

younger age, Like I wish, like, are

26:03

you know, I think it's like, um an example

26:06

of like falling through the cracks of the system,

26:08

right because I remember having that anxiety

26:10

attack in high school and like my

26:12

school nurs didn't do nothing like girls

26:15

to see like shouldn't shouldn't you

26:17

know, like what my symptoms are

26:20

presenting right now, and that like we have

26:22

a conversation surrounding mental health or

26:24

surrounding anxiety, and then maybe I can

26:27

start to seek help there. But like I went to school

26:29

in the hood, so like you know, we were

26:32

very poorly funded high school,

26:34

but you know, build character and it

26:37

made me really strong. But like

26:39

that's another thing to trounding mental health, is that like when

26:42

you are the one carrying all

26:44

of this, like you know, I think Disney

26:46

did a great job within Gano and like

26:49

and portraying that. But like you can't always

26:51

be the strong one, like

26:53

like sometimes your powers, you know,

26:55

will will go away at one

26:57

point because it's just not so stay

27:00

knows right right,

27:03

well, I mean, and I think what's what is

27:05

beautiful though, it's like our generation is the one

27:07

having these conversations. But on the flip

27:09

side of it is we bear the burden of having

27:11

to educate the previous generation, right, and also

27:14

having to like we're

27:17

just trying to help ourselves and like be better,

27:19

but we're also now having to fight this battle

27:21

with them not understanding why this is supporting

27:23

rights.

27:28

That's like tramatic it

27:31

itself, right, But I also

27:33

I want to talk about this career

27:35

choice, right, because the one thing I generally resonated

27:37

with your story was the idea of your parents

27:40

not understanding what the hell you were trying to do and not

27:42

supporting it right. And

27:44

and you know, for me, I resonate with the

27:46

idea of being an overachieved or definitely not in high school

27:48

but as far as my career goes. But for me, it

27:51

was more rebellion to prove

27:53

them wrong, right, And I became obsessed with

27:55

having these different checkmarks. Okay, I want to make

27:57

more money than my father ever made in a year to prove him

27:59

wrong and show him that w two right. Let me let

28:01

me buy a house with based on music money,

28:04

show them that right. That became my like mission

28:06

in in life and eventually obviously led me to

28:08

burnout, similar to what you're talking about. But

28:11

I mean, you have face it in a

28:13

similar way of proving them wrong. But also

28:15

having the burden of trying to be the breadwinner

28:17

of the family, and then on top of that

28:20

being the only one, like your brother said, having the

28:22

key to the country where literally you can do

28:24

all the things that they dreamed of. Talk

28:26

to me a little bit about kind of the stages

28:28

that you went through with like your

28:31

family not not only not

28:33

supporting this, but also I can imagine

28:35

almost to them, feels like you're spitting in the face of all

28:37

the sacrifice that they made to a degree by going

28:39

after this silly career quote unquote,

28:41

I'm sure of like playing music. Yeah,

28:43

I mean, honestly, I think I'm very

28:45

grateful. In my immediate family, um

28:49

aren't necessarily the ones who spit on it too

28:51

much. It was more so my extended family. It was like my

28:53

girl who didn't necessarily understand my

28:56

oldest brother is actually the one who was upset at

28:58

me trying to pursue a career year as a teacher.

29:01

He's like, Doris, you're gonna be so broke.

29:04

What do you mean, Like you have all the He's

29:06

like, you have all these talents, like go

29:09

go and get it, Like you can make more

29:11

money than m in

29:14

one month than you do in one year as a teacher

29:16

if you really like, you know, work

29:18

hard and like you know my specific

29:21

like nuclear family. Um,

29:24

because of my mom, we're kind of given this entrepreneurial

29:27

spirit, you know. She she participated

29:29

in like twenty plus Pyramids games for show

29:31

my whole life, like

29:35

like, oh my god, I'm with Princess

29:37

House avon, Mary Kay Home

29:39

Interiors, kitchen, there,

29:42

the whole thing, and I would you know, I have

29:44

a big couldn't afford the babysitter. So I was

29:46

there with her door to door, sitting

29:49

at all the little Mary Kay makeup parties.

29:51

And I'm grateful for that. I learned skincare

29:53

and how do I make us at a very young age. And

29:56

and more so just like the power of

29:58

like speaking to people and what it it

30:00

means and building like a I don't really

30:02

love the word network. It kind of cringes.

30:04

It makes me cringe a bit. But my mom

30:07

built took a nice little community of like senoras

30:09

who like we're always down to like join

30:11

the new

30:14

she was she was selling in and

30:16

so you know, it's not really about selling the product.

30:19

It's about getting people to like work with you.

30:21

You know. That's the whole

30:23

thing and so and so, you

30:25

know, my nuclear family was very entrepreneurial.

30:29

UM, but you know, my brothers just really

30:31

wanted me to like get a degree,

30:33

you know, and not mess that up.

30:35

And so like when I was like slipping in my grades in

30:37

high school because all this stuff was going down with my family,

30:39

it was like a catch twenty two. I'm like, how

30:41

don't y'all know that, Like I'm going through because

30:43

of y'all, Like what's happening here?

30:46

But you know, I would say I

30:48

think the only really adversarial

30:50

thing that I faced was like, you

30:53

know, my grandfather, like when I first started, like my business,

30:55

and you know, maybe rest in peace, you know, he

30:58

he was a creative spirit that really like I

31:00

think planet that seed and all of us to be creative.

31:02

You know. He was a writer, but didn't necessarily

31:05

pursue that that career because he was

31:07

so dedicated to the ministry. But I

31:10

used to organize these concerts called Selena for Sanctuary

31:12

and or like Selena Tribute concerts, and

31:14

UM at first helped me like fundraise my

31:17

parents papers, and then we moved

31:19

into a national scale and it was such a beautiful

31:21

ride. But all that to say, when it was first starting,

31:23

he started getting this momentum, and like we

31:26

did an interview for like when you see on I'm like, oh

31:28

my god, yes, show my grandparents will understand

31:30

what I'm doing now, because their whole thing was

31:34

that I'm not using my talents for the Lord. You

31:37

know that I was. I was supposed to pursue

31:40

a career ministry. And

31:42

so when I showed my grandpa's when you see

31:44

an interview, all

31:46

he said was to be careful

31:48

with the spirit of exhibitionism.

31:51

Oh my god, and that

31:53

I don't I can't resonate with the religious part, but

31:55

I can resonate with thinking that this was going

31:58

to be the moment that everybody understood what you were

32:00

doing and they're gonna be proud of you. And then they just don't

32:02

get it. And it's the most deflating thing in the world

32:04

of traumatizing. They don't get it. I

32:06

am very lucky to have to very

32:09

loving and expressive parents,

32:11

and I wish more immigrant parents can

32:13

take a note from my parents. But

32:16

like they couldn't give me things

32:18

financially or um,

32:21

you know, nepotism when it came to like career

32:23

wise things. But they sure

32:26

is how filled me with words

32:28

of affirmation and

32:30

lots of physical touch to like show

32:33

how loved I am and how encouraged I am. You

32:35

know, like my parents are the kind of like to

32:37

send me those two little like snoopy, like what's

32:39

up, good mornings, you

32:45

know, like like and

32:48

so I'm very lucky when it comes to that one. You

32:50

know, my oldest brother, like I said, was really tough love

32:53

on me. But I know that I

32:55

am like the exception to the rule. You know,

32:57

my my parents didn't necessarily understand.

33:00

I don't really they'll ever truly understand what

33:02

I drew. Now. I think

33:05

they do now that I'm in the artist cy and

33:07

like in this movie promo

33:09

land, you know, and they're they're starting

33:12

to understand the lay of the land, if

33:14

you will. But I remember

33:16

when I was really broke and

33:19

I was in the midst of like possibly taking

33:21

another full time job in the music industry after

33:23

I had gone like over my first one, and I was like, you

33:26

know, I got let go a week for my birthday, and

33:28

week my birthday is like on Thanksgiving, so

33:30

like you know this, the music industry shuts down from

33:32

my thanks Getting until the New year. Completely

33:35

like it's it's humbleweeds are

33:37

are just are just flying by,

33:39

and so I broke, like

33:42

so so so broken. In the beginning of

33:44

twenty seventeen, I

33:46

was offered a full time job and

33:48

in my gut, I was presenting

33:51

with the crossroads again too. It was either like manager's

33:54

kids. This is like when I found Gougo

33:56

and I saw him playing the Backyard Show and

33:58

I was like, oh my god, kids, and we're

34:00

going to take over the world. Like if I dedicate

34:03

myself a thousand percent to this, I

34:06

know we can make it happen, like we can do it,

34:08

or take this full time job and then like

34:11

this goes way slower and than anticipated, or

34:13

I can't be on the road with him and I can't handle

34:15

these things, and so I decided not to

34:17

take the full time job. And like that was the first time

34:19

that my parents were like not sory

34:21

sure, like are you are

34:23

you? Are you really sure? And

34:26

I think because I was so hyper independent growing

34:28

up, I was like Loki Matilda status, you

34:30

know, like like they were just

34:32

accepting and they're like save Ski,

34:35

like you know best when it comes to

34:37

to your world, and that's it. But like

34:39

again I know, I'm the exception to the rule, where

34:41

like, on the contrary, I think you see

34:43

like the two vast differences

34:46

of that were like in the documentary. You see unfortunately,

34:48

what like Jack said to face, you know, and

34:51

and you know, I think like what

34:53

I told her in the film, and I think what else anyone

34:56

who released the experience of like your parents are necessarily

34:58

understanding that like one day they

35:00

will hopefully, but sometimes they don't

35:02

really necessarily get it until like

35:04

they just see that you're like having

35:07

a sustainable lifestyle

35:10

that's nurtured by the

35:12

work that you do. You know, it

35:14

isn't until you're making a certain

35:17

amount of money that I think immigrant

35:19

parents will get it. But

35:22

but yeah, all that to say, I'm

35:26

I'm very lucky, but I else have a mixed bag of

35:28

like what expectations

35:31

look like and and you

35:34

know how to navigate once

35:36

you don't really meet those expectations

35:39

from your family, right right,

35:41

I mean it's beautiful that your your parents

35:43

were still able to you know, support you

35:45

in that way. And I'm fortunate as well, where like

35:47

love was never a question, right, So that's like

35:50

a step up because some people's parents might be

35:52

like, hey, get out of my house unless you have a

35:54

full time job or you're in school type of thing, right,

35:56

you know. So, uh, it's

35:58

definitely each to each his own unique

36:01

different stories, but I definitely agree, like I wish that

36:03

immigrant parents were able to have a bit of that softness.

36:05

And obviously life is hard in

36:07

them a bit, right, some of their experiences, which

36:09

which is totally understandable. So

36:12

let's pause for a second and take a quick

36:14

break, and then we'll be right back. All

36:19

right, we are back now. The last thing

36:21

I wanted to touch on with you is

36:24

talking about your music and and

36:26

and also you know, my podcast

36:28

is Life as a Gringo because I

36:30

was called a gringo by my family back in Puerto

36:33

Rico, right, because I wasn't like Latin

36:35

enough for them, right, you know. So, and

36:37

I know that a lot of my audience sort of resonates

36:41

with that message of never feeling enough

36:43

because we were born here in the States and we're very

36:45

much Americanized, right, And you know,

36:47

there's a struggle of trying to find your roots

36:49

but also defining who you are based

36:51

upon your own experiences, right. So I

36:54

thought it was really interesting in your music where you

36:56

incorporate you know, classical

36:58

elements of Mexican coture Mexican

37:00

music, right, but but also making it your own.

37:03

So I mean, I'm curious for you, how do

37:05

you kind of find that balance in

37:07

life of like, you know, really honoring your roots and

37:09

your ancestors, but also kind of understanding

37:11

that your story is a little bit different and validating

37:14

that part of your experience as well. Well.

37:16

I completely understand that experience.

37:18

I definitely lived by the Edward

37:20

James almost Selina quote where you're

37:23

like that Mexican enough for the Mexicans,

37:25

you're not American Americans. It's exhausting,

37:28

Like it's a very much more detailed

37:30

quote, but it's like, yeah, when you go to Mexico, you're

37:32

expected to speak Spanish. When

37:34

you're here in the stage, you're expected to be a model

37:36

citizen, you know. And so

37:40

growing up, like like I mentioned,

37:42

like I grew up singing in the church and so

37:45

um, honestly, anything outside

37:47

of like you know, church music

37:49

wasn't necessarily allowed, so I had to

37:51

like sneak it. Like I watched

37:53

an episode of gil More Girls were like her best friend,

37:56

like hit her CBS and the floorboards, and

37:58

I found a loose floorboard in my in my

38:00

closet, and I like, I hit my little like brods

38:03

in there, you know, and I had I had

38:05

like no doubt and my chemical romance

38:07

and follow up boy, and like when I was in middle

38:10

school was that it was the era of like Emo,

38:12

you know, it was when Emo was having its moment

38:14

and um, and

38:16

that's very white ute unquote so

38:19

exactly that. So like my brothers

38:22

they raped, Like I was very lucky to have brothers

38:24

who were like super into music but had

38:26

an amazing eclectic taste of music.

38:28

So like my brothers were both like

38:31

musicians themselves to like they

38:33

they loved like the underground hip hop scene and they were

38:35

like super into that. So like me

38:37

as like a seven year old like rapping along with them

38:39

to like like Elemento and

38:41

like beat chunkies and like the Visionaries

38:44

and um. But then they introduced a gangstar

38:46

to me in common and most stuff, and I was like,

38:50

like, so on it. But then Jose,

38:52

my brother who lives in Mexico, he's the one who introduced

38:55

like Marian Carrey and Aliyah

38:57

and and like these

38:59

and Whitney Houston and beautiful vocalists

39:02

and writers you know. And then but

39:05

then he also opened the doors of like you

39:07

know, this is where he this is what everything changed

39:09

from me were he introduced me to like Smashing

39:12

Pumpkins and Nirvana and like

39:14

that changed my life. Like that's

39:16

when I was like, oh this, it's

39:19

like I'm angry about some things, like let's

39:22

let's dive into this. And so in sixth

39:24

grade I decided, like

39:26

I I we we moved around a lot. I was born

39:29

and like with your you know east, you know,

39:31

like east of East,

39:35

and so I,

39:37

like many got displaced out more and more

39:39

inland, and so we moved all the way to sam and

39:42

Ardino and I was just like so angry.

39:44

I was like this is horrible, Like why don't

39:46

we have to move here? Um? And

39:48

so I was like all right, knew me, let's go.

39:51

And so I went super like punk

39:54

like Roquerta, like dark, like

39:56

the full time, wearing all black,

39:59

like discovered punk music. And

40:01

and that is when my

40:03

oldest brother was like, why are you acting white?

40:06

And I was like, what do you mean? I'm acting where? I just

40:08

like this music would And

40:10

this is when I didn't even know

40:13

yet about like rock and Espanol and

40:15

and like that whole movement too, and so

40:18

yeah, I love like the Misfits and Social Distortion

40:21

and the Addicts and and

40:23

and Rested and and Black

40:25

Flag. But then like then I was introduced

40:28

to like the Smiths and like depeche Mode

40:30

and and then I was introduced

40:33

to the world emo. And that was

40:35

like the era of like fueled by

40:37

Ramen and and work tour and

40:39

wishing I could go to those festivals.

40:41

But then that era turned into indie

40:43

rock, and so that I

40:46

always since that music

40:49

like got me. I was always stuck there with like alternative

40:51

music things that were like left leaning um

40:54

bands, and so it

40:57

wasn't and so like at that point, I was like rejecting.

41:00

My mom wanted me to like sing like Ranchers

41:02

and stuff. I'm going from like Nala and she

41:04

was like you know, and

41:06

I was like a famous singer

41:09

from from there. And so it

41:11

wasn't until college where I was really missing

41:13

my family that like I would put

41:15

on like Linda Ronstads liked

41:19

album and then that's when I found out

41:21

about the rest of her career and I was like, wait a second,

41:23

she was Linda ron sat in the stone Phonies. Wait

41:25

a second, the stone Phonies turned into the Eagles. Wait

41:27

a second. She had a whole rock career and a

41:29

country career and and a folk

41:32

career, and she did musicals

41:34

too, like and I was like, wait a second, Like, I

41:36

don't have to be just like

41:39

Roqueta. I don't have to be just listening

41:41

to regional music, like I

41:44

can be all parts of that, you know,

41:47

and so and when I was in

41:49

college, I got into like the whole singer songwriter

41:51

movement. And then it wasn't

41:53

until these last few years when I had an

41:55

opportunity to finally create myself. But I

41:58

think all parts of myself came to

42:00

the table and I got to honor

42:03

my roots and got to honor myself my own

42:05

taste, and like, really, what you hear in the

42:07

music is like a mix of all

42:10

of my inspirations, all my world that

42:12

are then presented through like my lens.

42:15

Because I would never want to just stick

42:18

to one genre,

42:20

because that's so limiting to to

42:22

me and to my expression.

42:25

And I think to a lot of

42:27

folks who you know, I think I speak

42:29

to like the all like Latinas

42:31

that like grew up with both you know,

42:34

you know, the music that you woke up on Saturday mornings

42:36

that it was time to clean. But also the

42:38

music that you listen onto your headphones full

42:41

volume when you like slammed your door

42:43

and and you're about to cry so to

42:45

sleep, you know, like I

42:48

can I can be both. I can carry. But yeah,

42:51

well, I think and the irony is which I try

42:53

to like really drive home to people, is I

42:55

mean, your story is another example

42:58

of that. The moment that you really started doing race

43:00

who you were and all aspects of yourself

43:03

you're that's why you're having the success that you're having

43:05

right now, right because that's what makes you

43:07

uniquely you, and that's what makes other

43:09

people see themselves in you, right, So, like

43:12

it is that embrace of understanding

43:15

I don't have to just be one thing, and

43:17

that's your authenticity that makes it so powerful,

43:20

right, like makes you unstoppable essentially,

43:22

which I think is something I try to drive

43:24

home to people. I think your story is a testament

43:26

to that. Thank you so much for affirming that.

43:28

I mean, that's all I want for

43:30

people to find their connection and their

43:32

parallel and not like we're

43:34

not a one size fits all kind of thing,

43:36

you know. Yeah, no, one, Well

43:39

listen I've enjoyed this conversation.

43:41

I really love your your perspective and your energy.

43:44

I mean, uh, let's let's talk about

43:46

the film and everything. Obviously, Disney

43:48

Plus is behind it, which big shout out to

43:50

to them. I would never have expected a documentary

43:53

like this to be backed by Disney,

43:55

but man, I love

43:57

to see it. I mean, Disney coming to the acquire

44:01

the film was definitely a surprise for all of

44:03

us. That was a big move that

44:06

at the end of the day, the director's goal was

44:08

to bring his story to the

44:10

most accessible and global

44:12

platform possible, so the people who need to see

44:14

it and see it well listen, Doris, I mean,

44:17

you got the e p O. We got me. How

44:19

the documentary going all over

44:21

the place? Where can people follow you on socials? We want

44:23

to keep up with everything you're doing. You can find me as

44:25

Mihad Doris on all socials.

44:30

Thank you so much for for hopping on the show.

44:32

I really appreciate you. I enjoyed the conversation. Thank

44:34

you so much for having me man. Big

44:36

shout out to Doris and not here for hopping

44:38

on today's show. Oh

44:40

Man, inspirational. It hits

44:43

so close to home for me. And my journey of

44:45

the music industry. But I think anybody

44:47

who is chasing a dream,

44:49

chasing something that is out of the quote unquote norm,

44:51

especially when it comes to your family, especially man,

44:53

if you aren't immigrant. Uh, it's

44:56

not easy. I think there's so many different burdens

44:58

that we bear, and maybe dif for a little bit for each

45:01

and every one of us, but I think there's

45:03

definitely a commonality there, and it actually

45:05

I wants to use that for

45:07

our ask a Google segment and get y'all take

45:09

kind of on a question that I'm opposing

45:12

around that idea, So I'll let your chime

45:14

And of course, as I was in our ask a Can and Go

45:16

segment as al

45:24

right, So I asked

45:26

a simple question today kind of based on Doris

45:28

the story. I mean, you know, she's out

45:31

there chasing her dreams and and man,

45:33

you know her her family was still showing

45:36

her that love and support even though they didn't understand

45:38

what she was doing. And that's incredibly

45:41

rare, you know. And um

45:44

and and that was a beautiful thing to see, especially

45:46

for something like me who had

45:48

kind of not necessarily kind of the opposite

45:50

experience to a degree, my parents didn't necessary support

45:53

what I was doing. You know, it took him a while to kind of be able

45:55

to accept that I was going to be doing

45:57

this job for for a living. You know.

46:00

Um. Now, I wanted to ask y'all,

46:02

simply has your family supported your

46:04

dreams how or how not?

46:07

And I want to read a couple a couple of responses

46:09

that I got on here at Elizabeth

46:11

underscores z R says Yes, emotionally,

46:14

not financially, but emotionally that's

46:17

what matters. And absolutely, I

46:19

think for me that resonates,

46:21

and that's so beautiful because for me that was what

46:23

was lacking. Right. You know, again,

46:26

my parents never kicked me out. My parents never let me go hungry.

46:28

If I was ever in a bind, I knew I can come to them,

46:30

you know, in reason. Obviously they weren't rich.

46:33

But the emotional support

46:35

for me that was lacking. It

46:37

is what hurt the most, you know, to to not

46:39

have that from your your parents,

46:42

that's something that led to me canger on a lot

46:44

of resentment towards them. So I think it's beautiful that

46:46

that your family was able to support you in that way.

46:50

Now, let's see at Brent J Life

46:52

coaching the homie. She says, Uh,

46:54

my husband has been one thousand percent

46:56

on the support team. He's so supportive

46:58

that even when I started to lose faith or patience,

47:01

he just reaffirms and reminds me how

47:03

far have come, or will just simply call me out

47:05

on my bs if I'm just playing the victim

47:08

in my own head. My mom is pretty supportive

47:10

as well, but she definitely cautions me to

47:12

be on the careful end, take things

47:14

slow, and sometimes she doesn't agree with my decisions

47:17

and will later be understood and

47:19

let me know she's proud. My dad,

47:21

who immigrated here as a preteen,

47:23

tends to not fully support. He definitely

47:26

feels like hard work nine

47:28

to nine is how you succeed. And even then

47:30

he laughed when I shared money goals with him once.

47:33

Yeah. So, I mean, I think this is

47:35

another beautiful thing because you have people in your life

47:37

who are supportive of you. It's

47:39

great you have a spouse who holds

47:41

you accountable but then also picks

47:43

you up when you are are kind

47:46

of down and when you are doubting

47:48

yourself right, And I think that that balance is so

47:50

important. I know for me that has been one

47:52

of the biggest sort of life changing things

47:54

for me is is you know, in my my current relationship,

47:57

um that my my girlfriend does do that for

47:59

me. She's she's there to to kind of talk me

48:01

off the ledge when needed, but at the same

48:04

time also ask me the questions of holding

48:06

myself accountable, like are you really

48:08

putting in the the amount of work uh

48:11

needed, you know, the the amount of work in order

48:13

for you to actually get upset or disappointed, you

48:15

know, or you just kind of complaining

48:17

it. And we'll kind of have that that balancing

48:19

act, you know. And she's very sweet

48:21

about the way that that she does it. But I think it's

48:24

important, you know, to not only support,

48:26

but at the same time hold each other accountable when

48:28

it comes to if you're actually putting in

48:30

that work or not right. And I

48:33

love that. You know, your your parents

48:35

obviously find it more difficult. At least

48:37

you have one parent who tends to understand. And I think,

48:39

listen, even if she your mom is holding you on the

48:42

sort of end of caution a bit more. Maybe

48:44

that's what you need a little bit of as well. You know, I think

48:47

we we also can't get

48:49

too ahead of ourselves and at times we sort of just

48:51

like jump without thinking. And I think sometimes

48:54

having that little voice in your head that allows you to make

48:56

you know, some some more calculated

48:58

decisions isn't oh with a bad thing as long

49:00

as she doesn't make you doubt your own decisions, you know.

49:02

That's that's kind of a bounce to find out my

49:05

mom is a worry you know, like a worry war, and

49:07

it's anxious about everything. So she, like

49:09

you know, uh what, will oftentimes

49:12

have me second guessing my own decisions, which

49:14

isn't a positive thing. But at the same

49:16

time, I think she has

49:18

given me a bit of you know, sort

49:20

of cautious optimism,

49:23

which I think is beneficial. And

49:27

last one already here is at Quanti

49:30

As Johnson says. My family only started

49:32

support my dreams when they saw that I was serious,

49:34

and quite frankly, I think that's the right

49:36

way to do it. You know. I was

49:39

talking about this with my girl the day, just like the

49:41

idea of raising children and

49:44

and like you know, them

49:46

showing interests in certain things and perhaps showing

49:50

interest in creative fields. And for me, you

49:52

know, I think taking ahead as a parent,

49:55

you know, I would support my my kid

49:57

going into a creative field, you know, as

50:00

long as they showed me that they were very serious

50:02

about it, right, And that's the caveat you

50:04

know, I'm not going to just blindly

50:07

support some sort of pipe dream that you're you're

50:09

feeding to yourself that you think is so easy to make

50:11

it and and it just happens,

50:13

you know, overnight. But if my kid is serious

50:15

about it, is putting in the work, putting in the reps,

50:18

you know, really thinking it through,

50:21

WILL will be there to to support them and help facilitating

50:24

in any way that I can. But I think definitely

50:26

showing that you're serious to me is

50:29

is kind of the line, you know, and then

50:31

from there all the support should should

50:33

followus. I think your parents uh are definitely

50:35

doing a great job. They're holding you accountable

50:38

at least. And with that said, thank you all so much

50:40

for chiming in on or ask a Gringo segment

50:42

at DJ Drambos. If y'all want to be a part

50:44

of these, I do on Instagram. ILL pose a question

50:46

usually for each and every episode. So you want to be

50:48

a part of the conversation, hit me up at DJ

50:51

Dramas. And now with that said, man, let's

50:53

kind of tie everything we talked about today up

50:55

in a neat little boat and a segment

50:57

we called conclusion STU time

51:01

just man.

51:07

So with this one, for

51:10

me, it was just inspiring. And I think the biggest

51:13

takeaway from from my conversation

51:16

with with Doris is like, allow

51:19

yourself to just be open

51:21

to life, right, And I

51:23

think that's something I've talked about before. It's

51:26

reminds me of myself. But we

51:28

oftentimes get so caught up

51:30

in like the idea we have in our head,

51:33

or we think something is meant to last forever,

51:35

and and I just think you have to go with

51:38

the full of life and see what opportunities kind

51:40

of come your way. And then also with

51:42

her, I love how she feels like she was

51:44

sort of at across in the road right where it

51:46

was like, either go off and

51:48

do this artist thing that I'm interested in and

51:50

try it out, or understand

51:53

that, you know, taking the job of the music industry

51:55

is going to lay out the next few years of your life

51:57

and that is going to be your life. And

51:59

I think you know, understanding

52:02

the risks, the rewards involved

52:04

and all of that, and then making the decision and kind

52:06

of being fearless about

52:08

betting on yourself when the time is right.

52:11

And I think that's kind of the the huge, kind

52:13

of grand scheme of it all. Again, be open to

52:16

anything that life throws at you, the opportunities

52:18

that life throws at you, and and then

52:20

also understand when it's time to

52:22

take that risk. You know, she she balanced

52:25

things as much as she could for as long as she

52:27

could, uh, you know, so she she burned

52:29

herself out and understood that it was

52:31

time to to make a decision that she couldn't

52:33

have both things, you know, she had to choose one.

52:36

And and because she had had all of that experience

52:38

prior, you know, she was able to take the calculated

52:41

risk and better herself, you know, and and had the

52:43

confidence that she could make something

52:45

of it based upon all the experience that she's had

52:47

prior to. So I think that's kind of the the bigger

52:49

kind of key fundamental takeaways I think from my

52:51

conversation with Doris and just super inspiring

52:54

and anybody chase the injury and whatever it might be, whatever

52:56

industry it is, man, I think

52:58

just trying to take notes from her story

53:00

and allives have to be open to whatever life

53:02

may bless you with and With that said, thank

53:04

y'all so much for tuning into this week's

53:07

episode. We'll be back on Thursday

53:09

for our Thursday Trends episode.

53:11

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