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Life. Done better.

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Welcome to another episode of Life.

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Done better. Today I

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have my best friend Debbie Lesh sitting next

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to me at the Kirk co podcast

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studio in Malibu.

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We've known each other for 20 years.

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It all started in London. Debbie

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Cassatt me to represent game character

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and action heroine Lara Croft.

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We traveled the world together for a year and a half

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to promote the game the angel of darkness.

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We opened the tomb Brady right at Paramount Parks

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in Cincinnati performed at trade shows like

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E3 in L.A. and did interviews

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photo shoots TV shows and

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meet and greets in Italy Holland Spain

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Scandinavia all over the place.

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Debbie worked for items a computer game publisher

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for 10 years but left that career behind

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when she gave birth to her first child.

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For about six years she was a stay at home mom

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and lost her identity and felt really

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stuck until a very

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wise person me

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said to her. You are one decision

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away from being unstuck and

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one decision led to many

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other great decisions and I'm so

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proud of this girl. Today Debbie

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is the busiest yoga teacher I know.

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She has a Yoga Works trained teacher and

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certified Institute of Integrative Nutrition.

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She is a yogi her health coach a mother

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a wife and a fun seeker

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a New Zealander who loves living in the City

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of Angels and I'm lucky to call her my best

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friend.

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Welcome to the show sweet lassie. Good

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morning Jill hello. So

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good that you're here with me today cause

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I feel like we have a past together

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that I don't have with a lot of

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people because I've lived in many places and

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we did start our friendship and it was a

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working relationship at first in a different

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place a different country. And now we're here

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in Malibu and you live in Hollywood.

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I live in Malibu.

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Tell me a little bit about that time that

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was really hard for you and I remember wasn't

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too long ago that everything transformed

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for you after several years of struggling

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and self medicating.

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Tell me a little bit about that so you can tell

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by my accent I'm from New Zealand and

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I spent 20 years there

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and then another 23 years living

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in London and from London

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we moved to the US with

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our two young children and we've got a very

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exciting business opportunity.

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But it hadn't taken off and

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where money is invested. And with that

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became a huge impact

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of financial worry and fear.

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And I've always been very independent

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and never been in a position where

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I wasn't working and didn't feel

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like I was providing

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and felt very insecure with the children

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and didn't really have a close circle

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of friends and family to support me.

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And you know mummy's medicine

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a bottle of red wine became a

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common theme in the house and

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it wasn't looked at badly and I didn't even

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know I'd just become a little bit of a of a

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habit. I think a lot of people out there are experiencing

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the same thing and it's a numbing process.

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I wanted to get that quick fix

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thinking it was helping me relax but

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what I really now understand now

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is that alcohol makes me feel quite sad

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and it's not while I'm drinking it because I feel that immediate

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little Oh good. But the next day I

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felt very low so it became a

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vicious cycle. So I got into

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this little downward spiral

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and a lot of self medicating and

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feeling energetically stuck you

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know I looked around L.A. and everyone's

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seems to be doing really well

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and you're well off Yeah and it's expensive

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to live here and a lot of people we

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know are in the music industry they're well-established

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actors and they've just got that pilot and

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it just from where I was standing

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it was tricky. I didn't know it at the

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time but I had a breakdown.

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And with that breakdown I showed

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up in my body as a rash and

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I got a rash from head to toe which

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wouldn't go away. Three weeks later I

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was in bed with a raving fever.

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I started to get really worried because I'm

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not a sick person and I've never been

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to hospital other than to have my kids and don't

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spend any time at the doctor and so forth.

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So I didn't get out of bed out for three

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weeks. The doctors came round gave

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me a shot of steroids

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and I seemed to recover.

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What did they think it was. Well I'd said I had

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an allergic reaction but there

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was no real bedside distress

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she has. She's got a hit permanent

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headache. Didn't your hair fall out. Yeah.

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During that same period. Is that right.

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So my hair started to fall out

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and then I went to an acupuncturist

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who said to me darling

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I hate to tell you but if you're having a breakdown

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you know your body's shut down the immune system's

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gone. What did you think at that moment.

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Well I think when your hair is falling out it

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doesn't get much worse than that. And I realized

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I really had hit rock bottom

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and I know it's a cliche but that's

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when suddenly the light bulb to go on

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and I had my aha moment like I've

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got to get out of here. This does not feel like

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a good space for me. From there

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we took a trip. Joe

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was always very we just always had a connection

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we always want to play have fun. So

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we dropped my kids off at school and

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went skiing for the day. So on

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our trip I was sharing with Joe

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how stuck energetically I

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felt stuck and I didn't know

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what to do and I was at the time

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waiting for a job to come in which seemed

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like it was a given. It was through a very

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good friend and she kind of promised

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me the world and I was gonna do the set design

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and the job wasn't coming in and I was sharing

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my frustration with Joe and just saying

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Oh my God I feel so stark and I don't know what

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to do with my life.

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And Jill Siebel Debbie

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you only need to make one decision

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to be unstuck.

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I never looked at it like there was

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like I felt like I had to do 10 things.

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We always feel like we've got to make these big goals

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to make a big change but we don't we just could do

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one small decision she said So

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what if this job doesn't come in.

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What's one thing that you would do

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to change the situation knows that.

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I would do a yoga teacher training.

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Joe looked at me. I

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couldn't believe it. I have known you for so long I've

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never heard you talk about it. I'm like How do I not

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know this.

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You know what I knew in my heart with the very

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first time I did yoga when I was coming

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out of a very abusive relationship.

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I went to yoga like

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a lot of broken people do. And I

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remember thinking I could be a yoga teacher.

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Well I love the fact that you're always very open to

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receive guidance because you can give advice

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or post a question like that and you

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can say whatever or kind of brush it

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off or you say. Let me really

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give that some thought and I think asking

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good questions really can change direction

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beautifully. And so instead of shutting

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down a question or thinking that we

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know it all or kind of have to it has to be

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this way or there's no other way we can

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be more open we can be guided in the

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most beautiful direction because I'm jokingly

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but I'm also seriously saying it like you

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are the busiest yoga teacher I know and I know

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a lot of yoga teachers here in L.A. It's

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incredible. Like you wake up at the crack of dawn

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You come home late at night and

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then you make food for the kids and last night you were

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gone again. What was your last class

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at eight thirty eight fifteen. Yeah

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and I was just like that you came back around ten

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thirty at night. I mean that's not every day but

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I know you work your butt off. I know that

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your clients are extremely happy with

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you. But a funny thing is Debbie has

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not been doing this for very long.

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You started doing this about three three

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and a half three years ago and

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I remember that you were

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asking me about a prize

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race and you were so insecure

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about asking more money and you wrote the exact

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amount I think it was like from twenty five dollars to 40

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yeah per session.

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And I was like Debbie you're fine

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you can do this.

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And it was like you know now your rates are 175

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200. Right. And so it's gone up a lot. And

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obviously your confidence but also your experience

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and the value that's added because

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now your health coach besides yoga they're

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getting nutritional advice. Yeah.

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But I think self-worth played a big

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role in my life and I'm very very

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hard on myself. You know I I really

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do struggle with the money side of business

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asking for more money and feeling

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worried that people who look at me like I'm

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being greedy or that actually I'm not worth

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it and it's taken a lot of work to

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really believe in myself. And it's actually constant.

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Every year I've put my prices up but it's a struggle.

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How much do I ask for and I know

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other people that charge a lot more and it's

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just the good angel the bad angel sitting

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outside kind of giving me different

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trains of thought. So my self-worth

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is a big one for me just to carry on believing

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in myself and lifting myself up

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and raising my vibration to know

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that I am with that much money.

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Absolutely and you are worth it. You're

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delivering incredible energy

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because it's not just that when I

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walk into a client's home I

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know that I'm not just there to talk

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about their nutrition and to

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give them a couple of exercises to

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complete an hour I'm really there to talk

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to their soul and they you know

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it's like you know you really tune

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in and you really make sure that

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they know that you really care you

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know a lot of the healing is there

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that you really care that they can feel

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you're not actually doing it for the money but it has to be

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worth your time because time

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is limited in this life. And we

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cannot buy time back.

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And so when I see you your

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military schedule I sometimes

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think like wow you know I would really love for

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her to get a break as IN WHATEVER

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IT IS could be sponsorship could be some extra money so

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she can take some time off and that actually

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brings me back to a very

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delicate time a very sad

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time for me a very difficult

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time for you. That was about five

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years ago I was going through divorce

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and at the time I lived in an RV.

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Yes an RV with

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my husband and he

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was going to Burning Man in the

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RV by himself. And I was working

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my butt off to pay a rent to actually

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we didn't have rent because it was an RV but paying our bills.

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And he came back and announced that he cheated

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and that was just the last drop. So

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I had to tell him no more.

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I'm out and take your stuff

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and get out of the RV please park it back

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in the same parking spot when you get back.

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It was a really heartbreaking

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breaking event for me. We worked together for 12

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years and he was my best friend. I think

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in the end. He was disappointed too that he did what he did

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but it all happened for a reason now looking

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back you know we're we're all in good places

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and we aren't even talking so that's fine.

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And at that time I want to go back to

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because when he brought back that

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RV not only did he

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break my heart but also broke the RV.

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So that was my home. The awning

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there was a hole in it.

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The steps weren't working and it was

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filthy. The Burning Man just sticks

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on everything forever and

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the floor was damaged. I was like holy

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moly wow this really represents

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how much he cares. So I

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brought the RV to a repair shop

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and I said Debs Can I please stay with you.

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Absolutely. She opened her door doors

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I stayed with you for six weeks

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cause that repair turned

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out to be a long process. But

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in those six weeks you

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also needed me because your

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mother in law was dying

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and he needed to be there. You couldn't go.

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And so I was helping you with the kids

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and that's where we came up with the term wifey

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state we call each other a wifey.

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Many people laugh and they're like them. They may not

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know why but yeah I've had a couple

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of people raising their eyebrows wondering

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are they that way inclined.

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And then other people have just you know ask why

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do you guys call each other wifey. And

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I remember it so well we

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were in the kitchen. The greatest

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joy about Jill coming into my

12:30

house wherever I am is there

12:32

any time I turn around. It's like my

12:34

fairy godmother has just been in and like everything's

12:37

being wiped down and put away

12:39

and I don't even have to ask and I just

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look like it's just you open your eyes and

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then I turn around to journalists just like oh

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my goodness this is what it must feel

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like to have a wife that every

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time you turn round everything's done.

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And she's like You're my wife.

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And that's exactly where. It's

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so fun to hear you even say that. So

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really funny.

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I'm sure a lot of you that listen

13:03

can really tune into this

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excuse. Debbie said well

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I had two kids and I don't think

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I'm ever going to have abs again. Right.

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You were like Do you really think that this last bit

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of it's the skin skin you can

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can gain elasticity back. And

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I said Well I've never had kids

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but have you ever tried to do ab

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exercises every day laser

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focus on that spot even though is this a

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spot reducing is not really the way to go

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when it comes to losing weight. This is really about tightening.

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And Debbie said no.

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I said Well why didn't you try that first and then tell me

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if you really can't do it.

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Oh this is the

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challenge. You said yes once again

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and say yes see where it takes you.

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And it was at 10 minutes only 10 minutes and

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we would be going even before going

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to sleep 10 minutes a day 30

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days. And so even after

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having two kids you managed to get

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to your goal. Obviously you eat well and

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it really only did take 10 minutes and really

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10 minutes.

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That's it. You know I do do a lot of other exercise.

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I think at the time I was spinning but I definitely

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wasn't focusing on core.

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And that's why I didn't see any major

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results. Exactly. So I hope actually this

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inspires some of the listeners even if it's 10

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minutes a day to change something

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they'd like to see improvement to put in action.

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We're just even just by taking on the

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change is changing a mindset doesn't

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matter what area of your body

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or mind you're focusing on. I think just energetically

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making a choice to make a change. There's the

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work.

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Absolutely. I think so too. Let's take

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a quick commercial break and we'll be right

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back.

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is Jenny Curtis.

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very empty podcast studio

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I'm recording this in an effort to reach out.

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It's not an easy time right now. We don't know

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what the day to day is going to look like for the next

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few weeks even months. So I'm

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proposing something let's all

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make something together. Kurt Commedia

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has launched a podcast called a moment of your time.

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These are bite sized episodes and each one

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Go to Kurt Kodak com slash a moment of

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We may have to stay apart. Let's

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create together.

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And we're back we're drinking some tea

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and if that is we're going to lunch. Actually

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Debbie asked me if we could go for a run

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first.

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I said okay. I love that you invite

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me to a run any opportunity

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to run by the beach.

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Definitely changes how

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I feel about running. I am not passionate

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about running not for one second

16:06

but running by the beach. I think just the

16:08

head of vitamin C. I'm a water

16:11

person the whole energy

16:13

of taking myself through the paces definitely

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lifts if I know I'm going to be down

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in Malibu for sure.

16:19

It makes a difference and especially if you have an accountability

16:22

partner when you surround

16:24

yourself with people that are very

16:26

athletic and go getters and

16:29

that doing lots of different challenges

16:31

and sporting events it raises

16:34

your vibration and you kind

16:36

of feel more enthusiastic

16:38

or you want to challenge yourself. You know a lot of people

16:40

are very quick to say no fishy

16:42

as we get older. Now a lot of

16:44

woman who fear fear falling

16:46

over fear of the unknown fear of not having

16:48

enough time fear about not being with

16:50

their children. So no just

16:53

stems from fear and a

16:55

wonderful quote another

16:57

one that I learned from Joe was just

16:59

say yes. See where it takes you.

17:01

So that became my my mantra

17:03

pretty much until that get you into trouble

17:06

at any time. Well like permanently

17:08

to the point even now with work I'm just like yes

17:11

old new. Yes I'll do those. Yes I'll do that.

17:13

But actually I found myself saying at the beginning

17:15

of the year just say

17:17

no and see

17:19

where that takes you. Because now I

17:21

do. You were overcommitted. Yeah.

17:23

And I do find it hard to say no but

17:26

saying yes and this practice you to say

17:28

no to things that do not resonate

17:31

as much or take up too much time

17:33

or stress you out.

17:34

Yeah. And that's how we burn out by saying

17:37

yes to too much and nobody gets

17:39

the best of you and you're like

17:41

condemn just by being tired

17:44

exhausted.

17:45

Yeah I think I think that's one of the things that

17:47

I still find challenging to balance

17:49

because I feel so good Being

17:51

focused getting lots done. I feel

17:54

like this constant burst of energy

17:56

I don't get tired and I can keep going.

17:59

I don't stop. The past week my

18:01

man flew back to Maui where we just build

18:03

a beautiful home. And I've

18:05

been by myself and I've been obviously a lot

18:07

more social cause. You know see my friends more but

18:10

I also see that I don't

18:12

take as good care of myself because

18:14

and this is what I find interesting because when

18:17

he's around me I want to

18:19

turn my phone off sooner at night.

18:21

I want to give him my undivided

18:23

attention. I will cook a really nutritious

18:26

meal. I want to take care of him when I'm by

18:28

myself I'm like Yeah I can just

18:30

work until 10:00 11:00 and last

18:32

night it was midnight. And I usually

18:34

sleep much earlier like 9:00 or 10:00

18:37

and I will eat leftovers or cracker

18:39

and I'm like It's so interesting

18:41

why am I doing this why am I taking better

18:44

care of myself when

18:46

he's around. And it boils down

18:48

to giving yourself permission to slow

18:51

down which I think you have

18:53

a hard time with too because

18:55

we are very responsible like we like

18:57

to take care and we you know we feel like we're

18:59

nurturers. Well yeah but then also

19:01

we need to always step back and say OK what do I

19:04

need to do now to recharge.

19:06

So tell me a little bit about your immune

19:08

system. Your gut was completely

19:10

gone. As in a bad bacteria

19:13

were ruling the beneficial

19:15

bacteria to gut bacteria were gone

19:17

and so you needed to really built your immune system

19:19

back up when you were rock bottom.

19:21

How did you do that and how do you continue

19:24

to do that.

19:24

Because the stress and the demands that

19:26

you put on yourself daily IBC

19:28

take also away from your

19:30

health at times the first time I had

19:33

experience with health

19:35

was about 20 or so

19:37

years ago and I found out

19:40

that I had Candida

19:42

and I didn't know at that

19:44

point I was seeing a therapist

19:47

who was a healer on many different

19:49

levels. And I'd told

19:51

her the symptoms and we did some food testing

19:54

and back then I had to

19:57

clean my whole diet up and it was a three

19:59

month process and I read the whole book from

20:01

front to start about Candida

20:03

and all the symptoms and and a lot of

20:05

people have got it and they don't know that they've

20:07

got to even just being tired

20:09

and fluctuating and all these

20:11

mundane sugar cravings is also part

20:13

of that right. That is so because the sugar is

20:15

rapid is feeding the candida thrives

20:18

on sugar. Yeah. And so I

20:20

eliminated it was really hardcore

20:23

but I was determined not to continue to

20:25

live my life this way and I always wonder

20:27

why people put up with pain

20:29

or put up with leaky gut and

20:31

feel like they can't change it because everybody

20:33

can.

20:34

So do you think it's a lack of knowledge or

20:36

is it a lack of determination or consistency.

20:39

I think a lot of it is discipline

20:41

and discipline is a muscle right. It's a muscle

20:43

just like any other muscle in your body.

20:46

You have to train it.

20:47

BRYANT Exactly. And you've got it. Yeah you've

20:49

got to use you've got to want the change.

20:51

And that's why unfortunately that's

20:53

why we hit rock bottom because if

20:56

you don't change you will be forced

20:58

to change. And the change will be made for

21:00

you whether you want it or not. And if

21:02

you go to the bottom which a lot of us

21:04

do there's only one way out.

21:07

And that was eliminate sugar yeast

21:09

wheat gluten. The only thing

21:11

I could basically eat was vegetables

21:13

fish and brown rice

21:16

and brown rice.

21:17

KING Why did not exist at that time.

21:19

Spike it was not popular yet even

21:21

now if I was eating kale back then either probably

21:24

not.

21:25

And I think going back to the question

21:27

to correct your gut you just

21:29

have to crowd out with green and

21:31

really increase your water and you're

21:34

a big apple cider.

21:35

Van Jerry apple cider vinegar.

21:37

I think I learned that from you. You did.

21:39

Well I tell everyone because people

21:42

do ask me if there was one thing

21:44

you'd recommend me to do. One

21:46

thing. What would you do. So while alkaline

21:49

your body and it could be drinking lemon

21:51

water daily because lemon even though

21:53

it's acidic it's alkaline thing for the body

21:56

and an alkaline environment in your body

21:58

is the one that thrives. No disease

22:00

can thrive in an alkaline body exactly

22:03

like new research shows that cancer

22:05

can only thrive and multiply

22:08

in an acidic environment. So somehow we

22:10

to have control over our body

22:12

and how it develops diseases of

22:14

course disease doesn't grow overnight. It's

22:16

not like our body is acidic for a week and then

22:18

you know we get really really sick but we may get a

22:20

cold if it's for a month we may get

22:22

some really nasty disease growing

22:25

over years and years of having a city body

22:27

so Alkalinity is something of a

22:29

subject that I'm I'd really really

22:31

a big fan to share about an apple cider

22:34

vinegar is something that

22:36

I've learned from my nutrition

22:38

is when I was sick and my

22:40

plate was off and my body was acidic

22:43

and I was not feeling well. That was like

22:45

one of the easiest thing to do. Know just a

22:47

teaspoon combined with water a

22:49

couple of times today. It really made

22:52

a difference. And I said to the nutritionist back then

22:54

when can I see you again to make sure

22:56

that that because I had also Candida in my

22:58

body. How can we make sure that I'm clear.

23:01

He's like Oh no I don't see need to see you

23:03

back if you continue doing this you'll feel

23:05

it. And he was right. I did feel it.

23:07

I felt different. And there are P.H.

23:09

test strips that you can buy on Amazon.

23:12

They're kind of like test trips you

23:14

would think of if you ever had a pool

23:17

or you Cousy. These are little strips that

23:19

you just dip into the water and a

23:21

number shows up and that indicates where you're

23:23

at. Now you can pee on the strip

23:25

or spit on the strip. I think peeing

23:28

on strip is more accurate. Morning urine.

23:30

And this way you can really see where you're

23:32

at. And I think everyone that's listening

23:35

should order these online on Amazon

23:38

called P H test strips because you

23:40

want to know if you have an acidic body

23:42

or an alkaline body. Absolutely. And trust

23:44

me nine out of 10 clients that

23:47

I work with are acidic so don't worry

23:49

if you are acid acidic. But this is what

23:51

you can do. So no one apple cider

23:53

vinegar celery juice celery juice

23:55

on an empty stomach preferably lemon

23:58

water lemon water so there's three liquids

24:00

then. Well let's talk about more

24:02

solids crowd out with Greens

24:05

as much green on your plate as possible

24:07

because everything green is alkaline

24:09

thing because the funny thing though and I have to say

24:11

about Apple cider vinegar I hated it at the beginning.

24:14

I really dislike the taste and now I don't like

24:16

plain water anymore. I was craving

24:18

apple cider vinegar so I think my body really knows that

24:20

it's good for me. Isn't it interesting how

24:22

smart our bodies are like when Candida

24:25

rules it's screaming for

24:27

sugar. Right. And then when

24:29

it's actually healthy it's screaming

24:31

for the kimchi or the apple cider vinegar.

24:34

It would be so much easier if we would be craving the

24:36

right things for when we need it

24:38

most right.

24:39

Well you know the thing with sugar it's so

24:41

addictive. You know nine times

24:43

more addictive than cocaine nine times

24:46

whole nine times more addictive.

24:48

So and ironically they look the same

24:51

but when you're when you're putting that me.

24:53

I saw it in a magazine the

24:57

body whatever you're feeding the body it keeps asking

25:00

for the same thing just simple things

25:02

like the tongue scraping I give those to my

25:04

clients as little gifts.

25:06

What does it do. Once you brush the teeth

25:08

you you put the scraper on the back and

25:10

pull the tongue. It helps with cravings

25:13

pulls off bacteria. It's great for

25:15

just a hygiene in the mouth but

25:17

the number one thing is it stops the cravings.

25:20

So whatever you were last eating from the night before

25:23

you can just pull and clean away. I do

25:25

it all the time I really feel it does help.

25:27

So that's a great hack. Mm hmm. That's really

25:29

great. I also feel like if you do brush

25:31

your teeth right after dinner if you're at home you

25:34

don't want to necessarily eat again. You're

25:36

right. Like you just like OK. Well usually

25:38

you brush your teeth at the very end of the day before

25:40

you go to sleep. So when you kind of take that

25:42

back. Flowers after dinner you're

25:44

like OK I'm going to brush my teeth then it's kind of signaling

25:47

the brain to be done eating.

25:49

Yeah well that's why a lot of people find it hard

25:51

to give up smoking because they have their

25:53

meal and then straight after that

25:55

meal they want their cigarette. The

25:57

two go together the same

25:59

thing brush your teeth change the dynamic

26:02

of what the body's craving.

26:03

Yeah just changing little things

26:06

really can drastically

26:08

change your health and life. Yeah.

26:10

Making one decision to do something differently.

26:12

Yeah. So what is your number one

26:14

recommendation if you know Apple cider vinegar

26:17

and Alkalinity is mine. I'm curious

26:19

to hear if there's that one thing that you

26:21

like. This is what I tell my clients.

26:23

Well I have to say I do use apple cider

26:25

vinegar as my go to number

26:28

one and also Clorox AFL.

26:30

I pop it in my kids water bottles

26:32

for school. That's really just oxygenate

26:35

your blood.

26:36

And again outlining a highly

26:38

alkaline. And it has it comes in many flavors

26:40

so it's actually really tasty. Yeah. And my kids love

26:42

the fact they have green water. So

26:44

cool instead of like blue or red

26:46

dyes your chemicals and

26:49

they love it and it makes them look cool

26:51

in school. Exactly. So tell

26:53

me a little bit about what you do

26:56

to make your kids eat healthy food because

26:58

most moms find it really hard to eat

27:00

healthy themselves and then to actually make

27:02

their kids happy.

27:04

I think if you're a brand new mother

27:06

I've fortunately for me I was

27:08

intuitively it felt right

27:10

to cook all my food from scratch. So

27:13

when you started weaning them from

27:15

milk into solids but

27:17

it's to give them as much texture as possible

27:20

so everything my

27:22

kids 8 when I was introducing

27:24

food they still love it

27:26

to this day. And the more texture that

27:28

they got the better they eat now.

27:31

They're adventurous eaters. They are

27:33

my daughter more so. What I've noticed

27:35

is they're everything that I was eating when I was

27:37

pregnant. She eats now and

27:39

the same for my son. Before I was pregnant

27:41

I never eat meat but when I was pregnant

27:44

I craved meat. And

27:46

then I went off salmon. He doesn't like salmon.

27:48

He loves meat. My daughter is

27:51

the opposite. She loves everything that

27:53

I eat corn that's so fast

27:55

and heckles all lives.

27:57

She has a really expensive palate

27:59

for such a young person. I really

28:01

do believe we're nourishing the

28:03

babies when you're forming them. Everything you're

28:05

eating is going through. And you

28:08

know they get it starts there. Yeah it really

28:10

does. And then going into the weaning

28:12

giving them as much food I've got friends whose

28:15

children they don't eat any

28:18

fruit and a lot of their food

28:20

was pureed and was from a jar.

28:22

So they weren't making their own food and these busy

28:24

mums they don't always have time to do it. And I

28:26

totally get it. There's a lot more available now.

28:29

I think more than ever before. But

28:31

as you want to just give your children

28:34

as much variety of

28:37

textured food and also involve them

28:39

in the cooking process.

28:40

Right. Last night I was impressed

28:42

that your son will all as you

28:44

know 12 to 12 already was making

28:47

his own eggs and yeah

28:49

pretty much like. Was it a snack or was it actually dinner.

28:51

Well he was going off to soccer practice so

28:53

he made violence yes scrambled eggs on

28:55

toast. So nice to see. I really

28:58

feel that empowering your kids and

29:00

sharing the passion of cooking food when

29:02

you're in a restaurant you could be eating

29:04

in a five star restaurant but

29:07

you'll come out and feel you could

29:09

have indigestion or the food doesn't sit right.

29:12

And there is a missing ingredient

29:14

and that is love. And I think when you

29:16

teach your children how to cook and

29:19

really empower them to be

29:21

independent I really want to see

29:23

my kids out into the world being able

29:25

to be self-sufficient look after themselves

29:27

know that eating homemade

29:29

is always the best is the healthiest

29:31

option.

29:33

Is there anything else that you'd like to share something

29:35

that the listeners may not know about you

29:37

and they find important that they do now.

29:39

You know it's not really about me but I

29:42

I really think people need to move

29:44

their bodies as a yoga teacher.

29:46

What I see everywhere is

29:49

this confrontation that

29:51

people or perception that people have about

29:53

yoga. They think that they don't have

29:55

a yoga body and they don't. The number

29:57

one word flexibility. I'm not flexible

30:00

enough. It's not about being flexible

30:02

because that is why you're there. The

30:04

flexibility will come but it's about

30:07

moving your body. You can eat

30:09

all the best food in the world you can meditate

30:11

but if you don't move your body

30:14

is going to get more rounded

30:16

stiff joints arthritis.

30:19

I look at the body like a car like

30:21

a vehicle and the body that we

30:23

have it's the only

30:26

one we get. We don't get to trade it in we

30:28

don't get to get the Tesla.

30:30

This is it. And so

30:32

you got to invest in it so

30:34

that it runs like a Rolls Royce

30:36

for the whole duration and that

30:38

you keep the tune ups regular and do

30:40

the oil and the apple cider vinegar

30:42

and that really you look at your body like a vehicle

30:44

and treat it like this is

30:46

the only one and there's no upgrade you're

30:48

going to hopefully find it easier to look

30:51

after yourself a little bit more. What's really

30:53

sad is when people have left it so late

30:55

it's a lot of struggle and suffering

30:58

and the suffering really comes from just

31:00

not moving the body.

31:02

Self-inflicted oftentimes Yeah I

31:04

do have a couple of little questions

31:06

for you and you just say I'm going to say two

31:08

words and you guys are going to pick what resonates most

31:11

Snow our son son.

31:15

You were thinking way too late. I don't want to ski

31:18

if there's no sun so

31:21

sun. Yeah water surf

31:23

or yoga retreat yoga retreat.

31:25

You were gonna say both of you. That's

31:27

really either you make it real hard

31:29

for you. Yeah you are. Cats

31:32

are dogs dogs wifey or

31:34

husband wifey.

31:40

I hope he's not listening. Maui

31:42

or Malibu Maui.

31:44

All right. I'll see you there next. I now look

31:46

forward to that next retreat. Me too.

31:48

She's never been to my house and she's coming soon.

31:51

Well actually I have been to your house well before. Yeah.

31:53

Before when it was still under construction

31:56

so you know where it is now you can finally enjoy

31:58

it. Exactly. Thanks so much for

32:00

being here. I can't wait for our next

32:02

adventures and for the next 20 years.

32:05

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