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NPR. Hey,
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everybody. It's Marielle. So
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a couple weeks ago, our producer Margaret Serino
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went to this techno concert with a friend. They
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were pumped.
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So when we got there, we like squeezed all
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the way up to the front, like right next
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to the loudspeakers and stayed there
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the whole time. And my friend
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brought her earplugs and I left mine at home.
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Classic mistake.
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And I was like, oh, this is this will be fine.
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It's like one night.
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She was only there for a few hours, but the whole
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next day, everything sounded muffled.
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If you've ever gone to a concert and
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you come out and maybe your
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ears are ringing or there's
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a muffled feeling, that
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is how hearing loss happens. That's
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Barbara Kelly, executive director of the Hearing
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Loss Association of America. There
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took a personal interest in this topic after
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the concert. So on this episode of Life
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know about protecting your ears. She'll
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cover the common questions like what to do
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about earwax, which earplugs work
1:34
best, and what volume is actually
1:36
safe on your phone. And she'll also
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talk about how you can find support if you
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do have hearing loss. A
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quick disclaimer. In this episode, we're
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specifically focusing on mild to
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moderate noise induced hearing loss
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that's caused by repeated noise exposure
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When Cole Burkhardt was in college, he began
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to notice something that really distressed him. He
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wasn't hearing certain sounds anymore.
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I think the most
3:18
obvious issue was I went home
3:20
to visit my parents and couldn't hear
3:22
my cat purring. Like
3:25
I could feel the rumbles
3:26
of the purr, so I knew it was a thing
3:28
he was doing but just couldn't hear him,
3:32
which was really upsetting. Cole,
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like me, is an audio producer.
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He depends on his hearing to do his job. Sound
3:40
is about 95% of my work. When
3:44
I sound design, it is
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all about
3:49
bringing a scene to life. So
3:52
when he noticed his hearing worsening,
3:54
it felt like
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I had finally found the thing I wanted
3:59
to do.
3:59
and I couldn't do it.
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Cole would go to at least three
4:07
doctors before he finally got
4:09
diagnosed with noise-induced hearing
4:11
loss from a doctor at a military
4:14
hospital.
4:15
Noise-induced hearing loss happens when
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you have constant repeated
4:19
exposure to sounds that are at
4:21
a dangerous level. And according
4:24
to the WHO, nearly 2.5 billion
4:28
people are projected to have some
4:30
degree of hearing loss by the year 2050.
4:34
Barbara Kelly is executive director
4:36
of the Hearing Loss Association of America,
4:39
or HLAA.
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She told me that with our noisy world,
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this is on the rise for all age
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groups. A recent study found that one
4:48
billion
4:50
young people are at risk for noise-induced
4:52
hearing loss. People between the ages
4:54
of 12 and 34. I
4:57
think there's a specific mindset
5:00
of like,
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only older folks suffer
5:03
from hearing loss and not someone who's
5:06
in their early 20s. Eventually,
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Cole found a community of other audio
5:10
producers with hearing loss that really helped
5:12
him out. And he takes extra precautions
5:15
now to protect his ears, which we'll
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get into later in this episode, but he
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says this is something that just needs
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to be on more people's radars.
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Now, hearing loss looks different for
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everyone. It shapes people's auditory
5:32
perceptions of the world in
5:34
infinite ways. But
5:37
to know if you have some level of noise-induced
5:39
hearing loss, there are some
5:41
common symptoms you can watch out for.
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So take away one, pay
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attention to what and how
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you're hearing. Noise-induced
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hearing loss is often something that's gradual,
5:53
so if you're not paying attention, you
5:56
might not notice it at first. And
5:58
how it happens in the first place.
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might not be what you expect.
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So we have tiny hair cells that respond to different
6:04
frequencies, and over time those hair
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cells become damaged. That's Dr. Ariella
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Naeem. She's the senior audiologist
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at Audio Help Hearing Center. I
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actually paid
6:15
a visit to her office in Chelsea.
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Hey. Hi,
6:20
Ariella. Yes, so nice to meet you. She
6:23
told me common misconception,
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noise-induced hearing loss has nothing
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to do with your eardrums bursting
6:31
or anything like that. It's actually
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the hair cells inside your ear
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that matter the most. That's right, the hair
6:38
cells. Because
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each of those little hair cells is
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tuned to convert specific frequencies
6:43
of sound into an electrical signal,
6:46
which your hearing nerve delivers to your
6:48
brain. And if those hair cells are
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damaged over time, you know, by noise
6:52
exposure or one really big,
6:55
sudden noise, they won't transmit
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that sound as well to the
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brain, because at the end of the day, it's
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all about our brain hearing and our brain
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processing what's going on. So
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it's not just about your ability to hear external
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sounds. It's how your brain interprets
7:10
those sounds. When we have hearing
7:12
loss, that becomes harder to filter out
7:14
the speech from the noise, or
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I should put it as the sound source that
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we want to hear versus the sounds that we don't want
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to hear. And since it has to
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do with your brain as much as your ears,
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there are a few
7:28
different ways noise-induced hearing loss might
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affect you. One sign to watch
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out for, if you can't hear your conversation
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with someone over, you know, lots of other
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people talking in the background, another
7:39
sign, if you can hear someone talking,
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but you can't
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understand the words they're saying.
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But one of the most common symptoms
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to pay attention to is tinnitus.
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Yeah, it's pronounced tinnitus, not
7:54
tinnitus. It's a common
7:56
mistake. And it's usually
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defined by a-
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ringing or buzzing or hissing
8:02
in the ears. But it can also manifest
8:04
itself like crickets or
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like my tinnitus sometimes is marching
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bands in my ears. Your tinnitus
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might sound really different than your
8:14
friends or anyone else's because
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it's not caused
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by an external sound.
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There's this one hypothesis that it happens
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when your damaged hair cells just leak
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random electrical signals to your brain
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and it's up to your brain how those signals
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get interpreted as different phantom
8:33
sounds. And the way I compare
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it is what
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happens when you take a big
8:39
speaker and you turn the volume all the
8:42
way up but you're not playing anything.
8:44
What do you hear? Like a... You just
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stat it I guess. Exactly
8:47
like a buzzzzz right? Yeah.
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So in order for the brain to make up for the sounds
8:52
that it's missing it's
8:54
turning on its internal amplifiers
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and then that's what patients hear as tinnitus. And
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the number one cause of tinnitus is
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hearing loss. Besides tinnitus,
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trouble understanding certain words
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or trouble hearing your conversation
9:09
in noisy places, you
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might also experience some sounds as
9:13
muffled and you might even be hypersensitive
9:16
to certain sounds. And all
9:18
of these symptoms are compounded
9:20
if English isn't your first language and
9:23
if numbers, people's names, or
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geographic locations are already
9:27
tricky for you to understand. So
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pay attention to what your ears are
9:32
picking up.
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If you have any of these symptoms just go
9:35
and get your hearing tested. In fact,
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you should get your hearing tested even
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if you have none of these symptoms because
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it's important to establish what your baseline
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level of hearing is. And
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that's takeaway two. Get
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a hearing test. A diagnosis
9:52
can help you manage any potential hearing
9:54
loss. Actually Dr.
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Naeem kindly gave me a hearing
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test. when I went to see her. I
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went to a very loud concert this weekend.
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I was like, oh, right. Well, you're
10:06
here at the right time then. She
10:08
had me sit in this white and black
10:11
isolated sound booth, and then
10:13
she stuck this black tool
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in my ear, kind of like
10:17
what you're used to when you go to see your primary
10:19
care doctor. So the first thing that we do is
10:21
we take a look in your ears just to make sure there's no
10:24
wax that's occluding the ear canal. Then
10:27
we look at the movement of the eardrum.
10:29
That tells us if there's any fluid or congestion
10:31
behind the eardrum, typically
10:34
in the space where ear infections typically
10:36
form. I'm gonna take a quick peek in
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your ears.
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Okay. So Dr.
10:41
Naeem had me put on this pair of headphones
10:44
and listen to a series of beeps at
10:46
different frequencies.
10:47
So we send little signals
10:50
to the hair cells and healthy ones will respond
10:52
back. And then what we
10:55
do is find the thresholds. So
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those are the lowest level that you can detect
10:59
sound across different frequencies or
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pitches.
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Next, she played some words for me, had
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me repeat them back to her. So we hear with
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our brains, not just our ears. And
11:15
when I have you repeat back some words, that's
11:17
actually looking to see if there's any distortion
11:19
set in at the level of the brain.
11:21
Say the word your, say
11:23
the word been, say the word
11:26
way. So the American
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Speech Language Hearing Association
11:30
recommends that if you're 50 or older, you
11:33
should get your hearing
11:34
tested every three years. More
11:36
frequently, if you're exposed to noise a lot
11:38
or have any risk factors. And if
11:41
you're under 50, you should get
11:43
screened once per decade after that
11:45
initial test. But you
11:47
know, if something feels off to you, trust
11:49
your gut. Oh, it looks like I have
11:52
one ear that is worse than the other. No, no,
11:54
no, this is just the movement of the eardrum.
11:56
Okay, cool. My hearing test
11:58
came back within.
11:59
the normal range, but I'll be back in a few
12:02
years for a checkup.
12:04
Barbara from HLAA
12:06
told me that if you're unsure how, you
12:09
can start by asking if your primary
12:11
care doctor can refer you to
12:13
a hearing specialist for a test covered
12:15
by insurance.
12:16
And if your physician doesn't do
12:18
it, you know, there's free
12:20
screenings in, you know, community
12:23
health fairs with the Lions Clubs and Sertoma,
12:26
or now there's apps on the phone that can
12:28
screen your hearing.
12:29
You can also find a test online. You
12:31
could take a test at hearingnumber.org
12:34
and hearing.org, both of which
12:36
are free. Those aren't going to give you as
12:38
much information as like a full
12:40
audiological exam, but they're a
12:43
place to start. And you can
12:45
also get a free hearing aid screening
12:47
at Costco.
12:48
So you've got options, but
12:51
even more importantly, you need to protect
12:53
your ears moving forward. And
12:56
that's takeaway three.
12:58
Reduce your noise exposure and always
13:00
wear protection if you know
13:01
you're going to be at a loud event like a concert.
13:05
Now you could still have hearing loss, even
13:07
if you're not going to concerts or listening
13:09
to your music at full volume,
13:11
you know, through your headphones, but those
13:13
noisy environments are extra damaging.
13:17
Dr. Naeem has this one guideline
13:19
that she likes to give patients. The rule
13:22
of thumb is that when you're listening to a sound
13:24
at what's considered 85 decibels, you
13:26
are safe.
13:27
The American Speech Language
13:29
Hearing Association does note that
13:31
listening to 85 decibels for eight
13:34
hours straight can lead
13:36
to hearing loss though. But when you
13:38
increase that sound by five decibels,
13:41
you have to cut the time in half. So
13:44
city traffic can be around 85 decibels,
13:47
but an approaching subway train
13:49
is a hundred decibels and hearing
13:51
loss is possible after 15
13:54
minutes of that noise. A
13:57
nightclub or a loud bar comes
13:59
in at around 110 decibels
14:02
so that noise can actually damage your hearing
14:04
in less than 5 minutes. Basically
14:08
it's like one big exponential
14:10
curve where the louder the noise,
14:12
the less time you can listen to
14:14
it unprotected.
14:16
But there are steps you can take to minimize
14:18
that risk. Like wearing earplugs.
14:22
Now earplugs won't block out everything
14:24
you hear. They're just a tool
14:27
to take everything down a notch. In
14:29
fact, if you love music and
14:31
you want to preserve how it sounds, you
14:33
can
14:34
even get filtered plugs. Those
14:36
maintain the natural resonance of sound
14:38
and music. Dr. Naeem makes
14:41
custom versions
14:41
of those for her patients who
14:43
are musicians. So it's not like
14:45
you're just blocking everything out. You're still
14:48
able to listen to the sounds
14:50
around you, play your music, get
14:52
the feedback from the audience, but it's still
14:54
protecting what we have. You can also
14:57
find commercially available versions
14:59
as well.
14:59
And while over the earplugs
15:02
are better, those foam ones
15:04
are still much better than nothing. You
15:06
know, the kind that they give out on airplanes.
15:09
Just make sure you put them in properly. You
15:11
roll them really thin into a small,
15:13
small cylinder. Pull your ear back
15:16
and up and then push them in nice and deep
15:18
and let them expand. Besides earplugs,
15:20
the other thing to watch is your phone
15:22
volume. So there's actually no official
15:25
guidance on how loud is
15:27
too loud. But this
15:29
is what Dr. Naeem told me. As
15:31
long as you play your music or podcasts,
15:34
audiobook, anything like that, at 60% of the volume
15:37
bar or less, you would be safe.
15:40
Okay. It's
15:42
time to talk about what you might have been wondering
15:44
about this whole time. Earwax.
15:48
The last component to your ear care
15:50
regimen is cleaning your ears.
15:53
Or I should say not cleaning
15:55
your ears because you don't actually
15:57
need to.
15:58
Take away four. Avoid. Q-tips
16:00
and cleaning unless it's super
16:03
super gentle. There's
16:05
an old adage that nothing smaller
16:08
than your elbow should go inside your ear. That's
16:11
definitely true. Not only because
16:14
Q-tips can actually push earwax
16:16
further in your ear canal, but
16:18
also our ears naturally produce oils
16:20
that help keep it healthy and moist. And
16:23
when you stick a Q-tip in there, you're actually stripping
16:26
those oils that are naturally produced. And
16:29
then that could lead to dry and itchy
16:31
ears. If you're still itching to
16:33
clean them,
16:33
make sure you're doing it lightly
16:36
and carefully. So what
16:38
I do when I, you know, come out
16:40
of the shower, I take a Kleenex or tissue
16:43
and I
16:44
just put it over my pinky and
16:47
gently dry out the outside of the ear. Keep
16:50
in mind wax is actually healthy
16:52
for our ear canals. Keep it in there unless
16:55
it becomes to a point where it builds up so much
16:57
and then just have it removed by a professional.
16:59
Yeah, I think
17:01
it's so funny that like to take care of
17:03
most of our body parts, usually the answer is just
17:05
like let it do its thing. Let
17:07
them do their thing. That's it. That's
17:09
it.
17:09
And if you're wondering
17:12
how much earwax is too much
17:14
earwax, it might be time
17:17
to get your ears cleaned by a professional
17:19
if they feel clogged or
17:21
if sounds are muffled. It
17:23
might also be time if you have any
17:25
irritation or pain in your ear.
17:28
So when you go and get your hearing tested,
17:30
your audiologist can also check your
17:32
earwax. And if you're looking
17:34
to try at home remedies, you know, like
17:36
those earwax candles, save
17:39
your money. Not only do they
17:41
often not work,
17:43
they can also burn your ear canal or eardrum,
17:46
which yikes. But
17:49
if you're part of the large population
17:51
that's already dealing with some level
17:53
of noise-induced hearing loss,
17:54
your regimen might and
17:57
probably will look a little different.
18:00
For example, earwax can definitely be more
18:02
of an issue for people who use hearing aids.
18:04
If you use one, you might feel more comfortable following
18:07
a really light, careful
18:09
cleaning regimen, like the one shared earlier.
18:13
That brings us to take away five. If
18:15
you're dealing with hearing loss, come up with a
18:17
plan with your audiologist. What
18:20
works best for you is going to vary depending
18:22
on your symptoms, lifestyle,
18:24
level of loss, like if you have
18:27
tinnitus or use your hearing for
18:29
work. And
18:30
if you want to do more to treat your hearing loss,
18:33
you have options for assistive technology,
18:36
like hearing aids. There are two main
18:38
categories. There's something that sits
18:40
behind your ear and something that sits inside
18:42
your ear. These options range in how
18:44
visible they are, but they also offer
18:46
different functions. Some hearing
18:48
aids are rechargeable. Some have batteries.
18:51
Some have Bluetooth capabilities or
18:53
are telecoil enabled,
18:55
which means they allow you to pipe audio
18:58
in public places directly into
19:00
your aids. And that can help cut
19:02
back on background noise. Some
19:05
are prescription hearing aids and some
19:07
you can get over the counter. A lot
19:09
of it depends on what you want out
19:11
of your
19:12
aid. Some people
19:14
in their early stages of hearing loss aren't
19:17
ready to wear a hearing aid seven days a week,
19:20
eight hours a day. Some people just
19:22
need a little situational hearing.
19:24
That's Barbara again. She says in that
19:27
case, something over the counter is a
19:29
good first step for you. Something
19:31
to keep in mind, aids can range
19:33
a lot in price. I
19:36
mean, certainly there are sophisticated
19:39
hearing aids that run five, six,
19:41
seven thousand.
19:43
One of the biggest obstacles to treating hearing
19:45
loss is cost and most
19:47
insurance doesn't cover hearing aids.
19:51
If you go the over the counter route, those
19:53
tend to be a bit cheaper. But
19:54
keep in mind, they're only for adults
19:57
with self perceived mild
19:59
to moderate. hearing loss. But
20:02
Barbara says don't be afraid to try
20:04
out a few and figure out which one works best
20:06
for you. After all, it
20:08
takes time for your brain to adapt
20:10
to them. You don't just put a hearing aid
20:13
in your ear and immediately
20:16
hear. You know like a pair of glasses
20:18
usually we put on a pair of glasses and it corrects
20:20
our vision. We can see pretty well but if you
20:23
put in a pair of hearing aids our auditory
20:26
system has to adapt. And also
20:28
adjusting to the change
20:29
of using hearing aids can
20:32
vary. You know it depends on the severity
20:34
of your hearing loss, the quality of the aids,
20:37
and what situations you're using
20:39
them in. So definitely ask about
20:41
a trial period when you're buying one.
20:44
There are also a lot of people who are
20:46
hard of hearing and choose not
20:48
to use hearing aids because of cost,
20:51
stigma, ageism, tons
20:53
of factors.
20:54
Cole, who we heard from before and whose
20:57
job revolves around his hearing, decided
21:00
against hearing aids for the time being. I'm a
21:02
broke college student at the moment
21:03
and don't have the money to buy hearing aids.
21:06
I will just continue to try and take care
21:08
of my ears and hope
21:11
for the best. He makes
21:13
sure to take breaks when he starts to feel
21:15
listening fatigue or ear pain. He
21:18
schedules his heavier sound design projects
21:20
to allow for that. I've normally spaced
21:22
things out enough that I can go and do that kind
21:24
of thing without then having to go right back to
21:27
work.
21:27
That strategy works well for him
21:30
but if you're
21:30
interested in hearing aids, weigh your
21:33
options, consider what your budget is, and
21:35
consult an audiologist. You
21:38
can also look into getting financial help. For
21:40
example, depending on your
21:41
age or income, some Medicaid
21:43
programs cover aids and you can
21:45
find a full list of financial assistance
21:48
options at hearingloss.org.
21:51
You can also find other info there like about
21:53
working accommodations and if
21:55
you have broader questions about navigating
21:58
jobs, career, anything else. it
22:00
might help to consult others with
22:02
similar experiences. That
22:04
helped Cole navigate his career
22:06
in audio. So another audio
22:09
producer, Caroline Minx, they reached out
22:11
to him to collab on a fiction podcast
22:13
called Scene and Not Heard,
22:15
which explores lay-onset deafness. Through
22:19
Caroline and their podcast, Cole
22:21
said he got to see other producers who are deaf
22:23
and hard of hearing doing the things
22:25
that I was doing, and honestly
22:29
doing it better. Cole says that now,
22:31
when he's making things, he has this whole
22:34
community of other creators supporting
22:36
him, and making his work even
22:39
stronger. I don't know about other people,
22:41
but when I am creating, I
22:44
will put parts of myself into that, sometimes
22:46
that is dealing with disability.
22:51
And even if it's not central
22:53
to the overall theme, you'll still
22:55
see bits and pieces of me in
22:59
everything I do.
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Okay, it's time for a recap.
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Pay attention to how you hear the sounds around
23:13
you, and notice if you're having any
23:15
symptoms of noise-induced hearing loss.
23:18
Get your hearing tested no matter
23:20
how old you are.
23:22
Reduce your noise exposure. So
23:25
wear earplugs at loud events, and
23:27
keep your phone volume at a reasonable
23:29
level.
23:30
Clean your ears safely,
23:33
or better yet, just let
23:35
them clean themselves. And
23:37
if you're dealing with noise-induced hearing loss,
23:40
go to an audiologist or an ENT doctor
23:43
and come up with a plan.
23:44
You can also look into hearing aids and other
23:46
assistive technology.
23:59
down your medical bills. You can
24:02
find those at npr.org slash lifekit.
24:04
And if you love life kit and want even
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more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org
24:10
slash lifekit newsletter. This
24:12
episode of Life Kit was produced by Margaret and
24:14
Malia Agudelo and edited by
24:16
Sylvie Douglas. Our visuals
24:18
editor is Beck Harlan and our visual producer
24:21
is Kaz Fantoni. Our digital editors
24:23
are Mollica Greave and Claire Marie Schneider.
24:26
Megan Kane is our supervising editor and Beth
24:28
Donovan is our executive producer.
24:29
Our production team also
24:32
includes Andy Tegel, Audrey Nguyen,
24:34
and Thomas Liu. Engineering support
24:36
comes from Hannah Glovna, Valentino
24:38
Rodriguez Sanchez, and Josh Newell.
24:41
Sensitivity readings from Emily Abshire
24:44
and Laura Soto Barra. I'm
24:46
Mariel Cigarra.
24:47
Thanks for listening.
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