Ian Michler is an ardent conservationist, widely renowned for his investigative journalism over the last 18 years that has helped expose the 'Canned' lion hunting industry in South Africa. He has also been heavily involved in the making of the movie 'Blood Lions' which was released in July 2015. This is a special double episode, where Ian talks in detail about predator breeding and canned hunting, and his own personal experiences in working to uncover the truth of this sordid industry. It has meant many battles, and often putting himself into the 'lions den' - behind electrified fences and locked gates, where there are guns, lions and people who deal in brutality. It is an amazing conversation - I hope you enjoy it.