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webinar. Hello language course creators.
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We are honored to have you listening
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and looking in today. As we hear from a panel
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of top language course creators
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from around the world, literally this
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time we know you're all well on
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your way to successful virtual classes and
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want to help you improve ratings and reviews.
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With different making tips and tricks today.
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What we'll talk about how to convince
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parents of the value of online language,
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learning how to leverage online
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teaching for development and fun, how
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to onboard and manage a large
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group of teachers and how to differentiate
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and create your own little niche.
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We can't wait to see the new Heights. Your program
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can reach with the help of today's expert
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advice here's to improving your business
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and impacting the lie. Of
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language course creators. Now
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we are all here because of one person and one
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company, and that has cooked too. And that's the founder.
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And CEO of quick too. That's Dotan Tamir.
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He's with us and built-on welcome
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everybody, please, to our group.
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Thank you so much, Josh. Uh, hi,
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I'm the town I'm from click to click
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to is an end to end solution for enrichment
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providers are looking to thrive in
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the online space, but we're
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not only a software platform. We
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actually understand what turns on online
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courses. Into an amazing
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experience and, uh, and journey
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for kids. Um, I got
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some stuff to show you, uh, but you'll have to
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stick with us all the way to the end for a glimpse
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of all that. Good. That's not going
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to be hard because this discussion
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today is very relevant to
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where the industry is right now. Online
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is here to stay and we
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all have to accelerate at it.
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Um, there's lots of do a lot
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to do, and we've got some challenging questions for
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our wonderful panelists. Thanks.
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All the, thanks to all the panelists. This is going to be
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exciting. So Josh let's start. Let's
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do it.
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So a few news and notes before we get
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started again, welcome everybody to our
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special event, featuring our guests from around
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the world and the language industry. We've
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got a serious group of people in the audience today
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as well, which is great. So
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we've got founders and CEOs, owners, and
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key executives of some of the nation's top language
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course providers. Let us know
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who you are, please. Where are you from and what
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you do in the chat. We've got Joyce on our team.
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She's fantastic. She keeps the trains
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on the tracks. So now
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is the time that everybody's been waiting for, we
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are going to meet our panelists. So
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we have one thing that we do specifically
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in our format is that we kind of do the
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introduction for each one of our panelists.
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Before, uh, they start talking,
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uh, we find that it keeps everything a little bit tighter.
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Um, and then we've also assigned them
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each one question. So
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we are going to start with Rebecca Schwenger
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right. Rebecca CEO and founder of language
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sprout in award-winning language,
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school may for kids. She is joining
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us from beautiful Minneapolis,
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Minnesota, Rebecca, your question,
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how do you onboard and manage a large
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group of teachers? while keeping
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super high standards.
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Well, that is actually kind of a three-part
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question, isn't it? So we
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have a couple of different things in there. The first
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one is how do we onboard
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them? And so we
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do that with having a well-developed robust
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and documented curriculum Um,
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we really like to make sure the same
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way that we're teaching kids the same way we put the time
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and the effort into making a curriculum for kids.
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We want to make that same quality curriculum for
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our teachers, because
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we want them to feel like they have something
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to teach. Correct. And
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teachers really are our most
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important assets. They are individuals
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who need flexible and adaptable systems.
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So that is like the first part of that. And
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then the second part really is
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how do we attract those teachers? How do
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we keep those teachers? Um,
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and how do we manage them? Long-term and
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I really think there is. a
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Secret sauce to this. the obvious answer is
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we have great systems in place. We have
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an online training program. We have, um,
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office hours and training hours for our teachers.
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But the secret sauce to me is the creation of
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a community within our teaching
4:22
staff, that our teachers
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feel part of our mission statement, which
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is not just to come in and teach a class
4:29
and interact with kids. But they're part
4:32
of. A desire to change
4:34
the way language is taught their part. They
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want to be part of the community that
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empowers and inspires students.
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Um, and so we, do a lot of community
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building, um, so that they feel
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They can contribute
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to what we're teaching. This leads to a
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lot of peer support, a lot of collaboration,
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a lot of ingenuity, um, because
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we really always want to be developing
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our program to be the best program it can be.
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And so really the
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big part is having a, having an extra curriculum
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for students, having an excellent curriculum
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for our teachers and really inspiring
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them to be part of students'
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lives, to be their greater community lives.
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It makes sense.
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Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. It's um,
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I think what differentiate,
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one thing that differentiates the whole
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group of organizations that are in this
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webinar and. And many of
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the other players is that you
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all are focusing on an experience
5:32
that's led by an instructor, live
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with small groups. Um,
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while you know, there's a, there are a lot of
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ways to learn language and maybe we've
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mentioned a few later on like apps
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and games and then YouTube, um,
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But I think what's unique here is
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that there's actually an instructor.
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It might be, um,
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uh, something that is given to so many people,
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of course, in education, you learn, there's an
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instructor, but I think today there are so many
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other things. So do
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you, did anybody else here?
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Um, what's the share like the, the,
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uh, challenge, uh, recruiting.
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The teachers are trained them and monitoring
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them or keeping these high standards
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when they are actually teachers working
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for you from their home, delivering
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your content. I
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think a lot of that
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is about communication, right.
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And making sure that you have the support staff in place
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to support them
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challenging.
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No, and not just me. No. We want
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to make sure that, you know, they have teams
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in which they work within that team. If
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they have a question that they feel as though they're
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a part of a group, um, and they
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can find support, not just from, you
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know, their own research or their own,
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um, learning within our training program, but
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they can find it within their, within the
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other teachers, especially when we're virtual and we feel very
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alone having those opportunities to build
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that community where your teachers are.
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You know, colleagues to one another, which doesn't
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always feel that way when you do remote work,
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but it totally possible
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the same way we build communities within our students. We
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build them within our team.
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So you're, you're building community and
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probably a very strong community
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is going to help parents understand and,
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and see the value. So I'm going
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to, going to take us to another panelist
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here. Mercedes Modesto, Mercedes
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is CEO and founder of edge. You can do
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a Medica, a Spanish language program
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that was started in 2004.
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And Mercedes your questions. How
7:42
do we convince parents of the value
7:44
of online learning when
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it comes to languages? Oh,
7:49
of
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course. Uh, let me tell
7:51
you one thing, the parents
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will see the value by themselves,
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and this is a big difference. when
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you teach, uh, face
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to face classes, What
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is the difference? There are many differences, but
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one is that the
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parents, I mean, when you teach
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small children will be there.
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The parents will be in your class. The
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parents will listen to your class.
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Uh, Will see how
8:20
you manage no matter if they could be side-by-side
8:23
with the students or not, that could be around the house,
8:25
but they will pay attention. They
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will see how you manage
8:30
any frustration of
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the students. They will see if they
8:34
are motivated or not, and
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they will listen to everything and they will
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And this is an opportunity. I mean, it's a challenge,
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but it's also an opportunity because
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they will see and they will
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compete itself by just
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listening to the. class and
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this is very interesting. This doesn't
8:56
happen in school. Um,
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so this is something that we as teacher
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need to take advantage of, is
9:04
that Mercedes, is that
9:06
a challenge? Um,
9:08
uh, it's an opportunity of course, because parents
9:10
are listening. Can it also be a challenge and
9:12
maybe this isn't just when it comes to languages,
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this is any sort of online learning, but
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that the parents are kind of listening all
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of time.
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Yes. Yes. It's a challenge. It's
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a challenge, but it's also
9:25
have their own, uh, thoughts
9:28
about how to teach a language. For
9:30
example, sometimes they,
9:33
if they still make a mistake, when speaking,
9:35
they correct. Right
9:37
there. And sometimes
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this is not what we as teachers are
9:42
looking for because sometimes you want your student
9:44
to be able to communicate,
9:47
you know, to speak, to be more
9:49
fluent. And if you correct
9:51
every single mistake as I am probably
9:53
doing now, I
9:55
was free. I said, no, no, I won't talk
9:58
anymore. This is naturally, this happens.
10:00
So sometimes you need to. So
10:03
the parents, okay, this is, I'm doing this
10:05
because of that. You need to explain a lot of things.
10:09
I, they get more involved in
10:11
your class because they listen
10:13
to the class. So this is one thing, but
10:15
there's more and online
10:18
learning also emphasize the
10:20
communicative approach. When
10:22
you learn the language, you learn
10:24
it to be able to communicate
10:26
in that language. And sometimes
10:29
face-to-face classes. Uh,
10:32
you can have a student for one hours, you
10:34
during a chair without communicating, without
10:36
speaking a word, just completing worksheets
10:38
and doing grammar. And
10:41
that's the class, uh,
10:43
in online learning. This is very
10:45
different, especially of course, if
10:47
you have a small group or private
10:50
class, either. They
10:52
need to talk. They need to write,
10:55
even on the chats, they need to communicate.
10:57
They are forced to come here. So
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that's another good point.
11:02
And the last one would be
11:04
that the use of the technology
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is very natural for the student, for
11:09
the children, especially, and
11:13
they love the technology. They love the games,
11:15
the activities that you have that we provide
11:18
them. And so
11:20
we use it, we use it to motivate the students.
11:23
They, they love it. And, and
11:25
also, uh, We
11:27
many times will know from them. And
11:30
they love to teach us how to
11:32
use this and that and what you can do. Let
11:34
me show you these for the, of course, in Spanish,
11:37
but that's also
11:39
with point, I
11:41
really relate to, to what you're mentioning
11:44
the citizen. They think that,
11:47
um, The,
11:49
you know, the pandemic has shifted a
11:51
lot of how, uh,
11:53
on, on how we do, how we communicate
11:55
with people. I think today, being
11:57
able to do all that online
12:00
is an important skill. Uh, when
12:02
they grew up, they will actually do
12:04
a lot of their work online.
12:06
They'll do a lot of their studies online.
12:09
So starting now, um,
12:12
communicate and learning online is
12:14
actually also building their. Just
12:17
general communication and
12:19
tech skills for life. Rebecca, you want
12:22
to add something about that as well?
12:24
Yeah. Oh, I was just going to follow up on the parents being
12:26
involved. It is phenomenal,
12:29
right? Sometimes they pop in and,
12:31
you know, they get to be part of the class. They
12:33
get to be engaged. It is
12:36
so wonderful. And you know, we also do
12:38
in-person classes, but when we have
12:40
parents who are engaged, we can help
12:43
the parents incorporate. Into
12:45
their daily life, right? So we can
12:47
say, Hey, you know what, this is what we're working on this week. This
12:50
is how we'd like you to follow up. And we have
12:52
the ability, even if the parents are,
12:54
you know, halfway across the house, listening,
12:57
they're learning those skills so that the
12:59
students get other opportunities to
13:01
be able to practice throughout the week. So I actually think
13:04
parents being involved in. One
13:06
of the greatest parts of online language
13:08
classes is it allows
13:10
for a significant reinforcement
13:13
throughout the week with our students that we don't necessarily
13:15
get when we don't have interaction with the parents regularly.
13:18
Um, uh, I'm laughing because I'm from
13:21
Washington DC, but I since moved to
13:23
a small town in Mexico and
13:25
my wife is fluent in Spanish. And so is
13:27
my daughter. So it's kind of flipped
13:29
in my house because every time I try
13:31
and speak Spanish, my daughter corrects me. And
13:33
so I absolutely know what you're talking
13:35
about, Mercedes, in terms of, you know, as, as
13:37
you get corrected and get corrected, you kind of,
13:40
you know, begin to. And lose some
13:42
of that confidence. Although my seven-year-old daughter
13:44
thinks it's hilarious when I pronounce
13:47
names and in the restaurants the wrong way.
13:49
So, but we'll get to that. So let's,
13:51
uh, let's talk about other skills that,
13:53
that the kids are, are also building
13:55
other than languages. We have Alex. Uh,
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Alex is joining us from Montreal.
14:01
Um, he has over
14:03
eight years and been in close collaboration
14:05
with Lang mobile. And we've been talking for
14:08
actually a while with this great company.
14:10
So Alex, your question, how
14:12
do you leverage online teaching for developing
14:15
character and life skills
14:17
while also of course keeping it fun because
14:19
that's what we know the kids. Yeah,
14:22
of course. Um, I
14:24
think the first thing
14:26
is really to not
14:28
see the language as a finality
14:31
and really, see
14:34
it as a tool or as an opportunity,
14:36
um, grammar
14:39
and, um, the
14:41
structure of language is so important,
14:44
but uh, what I experienced
14:46
being like in a bilingual province
14:49
Is that it takes all this space when you're
14:51
in the scholar environment.
14:53
And there's not a lot of space for the
14:56
other things. And
14:58
I um, think
15:00
just being here, I'm the perfect
15:02
example being here in this webinar
15:04
and meeting these amazing panelists
15:06
and people, uh, English
15:09
is my second language. And
15:11
being here and experiencing this
15:14
webinar and being so proud
15:16
of me for achieving this
15:18
and experiencing joy by just
15:20
connecting with other people is
15:23
something I do through English
15:25
or with English. But English
15:27
is not the finality of it. That's just the tool
15:30
for me to achieve something new.
15:33
Um, I think
15:35
the language has really.
15:39
has to be seen as a tool to
15:41
broaden your identity. Um,
15:44
and you kind of want to, uh,
15:47
express that to, uh,
15:49
everything that we said before to the teachers,
15:52
to the parents, and then
15:55
the last stop to, the children. Um,
15:59
so a bit more concretely. This
16:02
is all a beautiful in theory, but a
16:04
bit more concretely. I think it
16:06
goes through fun learning road, goes
16:08
through fun through,
16:11
um, themes,
16:13
activity, immersion,
16:16
um, Again,
16:18
to, uh, take the awards
16:20
of Mercedes as small groups, uh,
16:24
is definitely helpful because the
16:26
key for me is to
16:28
put the emphasis on connection, connection
16:31
between the students connection
16:34
with the theme or the activity that
16:36
we're doing right now. Most
16:38
important to me. And this is the biggest
16:40
opportunity opportunity we have with
16:42
online. They, they
16:44
are home, they are in their environment,
16:47
you know, so it's important
16:50
to be able to connect
16:52
with the real world, connect with their
16:55
environment and let
16:57
them show you something from their house.
16:59
Let them show, show you something,
17:01
you know, uh, let them ask
17:04
them to react to the activity you're doing
17:06
right now. And, um,
17:08
through activities like we, we
17:11
do this through activities like book club
17:13
or glee club or things
17:15
that are really specific, like go
17:18
in, you know, with specific
17:20
themes, specific activity online
17:22
gives you the opportunity to, um,
17:25
not be stuck in your classroom with
17:27
people, not, having the
17:29
same interest as you, you can go
17:32
all over the world and create a small
17:34
group of children. That
17:36
are passionate about this book,
17:38
you know, this specific book and
17:40
they can express themselves
17:42
on it. And really, um,
17:45
this is where your identity just grows
17:48
because you have the space to do it. And
17:51
even though language is a great, uh,
17:53
opportunity, it's really
17:55
the tool that brings you there
17:58
and brings you those, all those great
18:00
positive feelings. Um,
18:03
so yeah, this is how is.
18:05
I wanted to, to follow up on this Alex
18:07
and, um, um,
18:10
in my. Previous
18:12
career. I started
18:14
a summer camp in Israel that brings
18:16
together kids from 30 different countries. And
18:19
so imagine the number of, uh, languages
18:22
and cultures that came
18:24
into this mix
18:27
of, uh, experiences
18:29
and, and fun. Um, and.
18:32
You know, we, we actually never taught
18:35
language, but we always felt
18:37
like the kids are learning a lot of language, uh,
18:39
because they were really using it
18:42
to bridge between,
18:44
you know, between themselves and basically to do
18:47
stuff together. So they were using it to
18:49
learn stuff. And then they
18:51
started liking this idea of speaking
18:53
another language. Um, so
18:55
I really relate to that. And I think there's
18:58
an era you have more to talk
19:00
about when it comes to. Cultures
19:03
and regarding languages.
19:05
So you were not introduced yet, but
19:08
take the mic. And then Josh related to this year.
19:11
Totally. I will, I will introduce
19:13
my neighbor here in Mexico. Uh,
19:15
out as in Guadalajara, out of
19:17
Vasquez is the founder and CEO
19:20
of tuk-tuks Spanish. Um,
19:22
and it's a language learning based company
19:24
based in New York city. But again, she's my neighbor here
19:26
in Mexico. Um, and what
19:29
she's going to talk about here is how to differentiate
19:31
and create your own niche and right. You
19:33
could see right there on her shirt. She's got it loud
19:35
and proud there. So talk about how you differentiate
19:38
yourself outside of the beautiful, beautiful
19:40
blue shirt you have on.
19:41
Thank you. Does and well, uh,
19:43
thank him so happy to be here. And yes,
19:45
I'm I'm I started this, um,
19:48
Spanish school in New York city
19:50
and, um, something
19:52
that we have to. Like
19:55
look first in the business. It's like, we're
19:57
like, okay, what type of business that all of
19:59
us were here? Uh, and people releasing
20:02
them from their homes. Yes. Has already started
20:04
on languages, schools. You're not selling hats or
20:06
selling food. You already have. Uh,
20:09
niche that is people who want to learn languages.
20:12
But if you start just
20:14
like, okay, I'm going to like teach languages.
20:17
Well, language. Well, we did everything. We
20:19
will find my teacher for you. Like we teach every
20:21
language and who are you going to teach
20:23
to us? Like, it's those things.
20:25
It doesn't matter where not
20:28
like everywhere in the world. Right? Like
20:30
if the internet. Era like
20:32
we can reach everyone in the world. If you
20:34
start just talking to everyone like that
20:36
and teaching everything at the end, you
20:38
were going to be generic language
20:40
at school that no one can relate to think
20:43
that, uh, nowadays we need to really
20:45
be, um, Like
20:47
narrowing it down and you want to be
20:49
a big fish in a small
20:51
fund because you're going to be there a
20:53
small phase, like a generic language school
20:56
and the CLV schools. You're not going to talk
20:58
and you're not going to anyone specific
21:01
and you're no one is going to feel related
21:03
to you. So what do we do in. Spanish
21:06
for instance, uh, we're based in New York city.
21:08
So our personality and our niche
21:11
is very much like the New York families.
21:14
Um, and we pitch exclusively
21:17
to kids and we,
21:19
uh, let's say our, our niche are
21:21
people either like families of
21:23
immigrants or people who feel connected. Do,
21:26
um, delay Hispanic culture and
21:28
wonder kids to learn Spanish.
21:31
So that's our like very narrow
21:34
niche and it doesn't matter. I mean,
21:36
it doesn't mean that we're not like the teacher
21:38
as someone from other countries.
21:40
Actually we have families, um,
21:43
like in Berea and Australia, but
21:45
again, like our niche is one. You
21:47
have to be specific
21:50
about it.
21:51
I don't know about you, Joe, Tom, but as a
21:53
business owner, I, I hear what you're saying.
21:55
I hear it, but it almost makes me a
21:57
little nervous cause I'm like, wow. So, okay.
22:00
So you're going to be very narrow about who you're talking to,
22:02
you know, and you'll be very narrow about who you're
22:04
teaching, you know, and one language
22:07
and one group of people. I mean,
22:09
I would imagine having known you now
22:11
for a little while you agree with the philosophy.
22:15
I agree with the philosophy. I think there's
22:17
a many ways to
22:19
differentiate and, and
22:22
be unique. You have to be unique today, right? To be
22:24
heard and to be, uh,
22:27
there's this competition is great.
22:30
And the fact that you're unique, are you in
22:32
a specific niche, still leaves a lot of competition
22:34
around you, but it makes
22:36
it, uh, uh, the decision to work
22:39
with you a little bit easier or more
22:41
straightforward. Um, I
22:43
think from speaking to all
22:45
of the panelists here before I
22:47
think each one here has their own. Niche.
22:50
I wonder if we do have rights sometime
22:52
Josh, if, if, if it's okay. I'll just
22:54
schedule. Yeah. Okay. So
22:57
to, to allow, uh, each one,
22:59
anybody at once to give
23:01
us a glimpse into what's unique,
23:03
special about how you do stuff.
23:06
really? You shortly at Playmobile
23:09
a bit what I said before we just
23:11
go with, through activities and theme-based
23:14
classes, and it's always about something
23:18
really, really specific. And
23:21
for sure, our main, uh,
23:24
Uh, language is English
23:26
since we are in a French province.
23:29
Uh, but I mean, English is all
23:31
over the globe as well, also,
23:33
All right. So at language we have
23:36
a little bit of a different approach.
23:38
Um, well we're still a little bit
23:40
of a niche market, but we start with a really
23:42
well developed, very robust
23:44
curriculum that takes. Kids
23:47
from, and we do, um, we have Spanish,
23:49
we have Mandarin, we have French. Um,
23:51
and we have Portuguese, but we have a curriculum
23:53
that we developed over the course of 20 years
23:56
and it will take kids and it's sequentially based.
23:58
So it'll take kids from not knowing all that, not knowing
24:01
me how all the way up to being,
24:03
um, proficient language speakers.
24:06
We have students all over the world. We have students
24:09
who have Spanish speaking parents or French speaking parents
24:11
at home. We have kids who have absolutely no,
24:13
no family support, but it's
24:16
created so that from
24:18
class one to, you know, I
24:20
have students I've had for a decade. We
24:24
can monitor and know exactly where they are
24:26
in the curriculum. We know exactly what they've been introduced
24:28
to. We know exactly what is coming
24:30
next, and if we have any need to switch teachers
24:33
or find a different fit at any point,
24:35
we can just look back at the documentation and say, okay,
24:37
they're on level three, unit two. Then
24:40
when the next teacher comes in, or if they need a time
24:43
change, then we are able to
24:45
really stay at the
24:47
exact same place. Um, I think
24:49
when you have students who. I don't
24:51
have a background or anything at home.
24:53
We get something called. I like to call Swiss cheese language
24:56
where we have, because there was
24:58
no direction or sequence or path for them to
25:00
follow. We have a lot of
25:02
knowledge, but huge holes
25:05
in that, because there was no sequence to be followed.
25:08
You know, where you may know a lot of vocabulary
25:10
or you may know some phrases, but what
25:12
we're trying to do is teach whole learners. We want
25:14
you to be thinkers. We want
25:16
you to be able to take, you know, what
25:18
you know, and use it to construct. Language
25:22
so that you can use it in any way you want, not just
25:24
know various vocabulary or themes
25:26
or phrases, but have a robust, um,
25:30
understanding of how language functions and
25:33
that ends up coming out and not just language,
25:35
but also in, in their English learning as
25:37
well.
25:38
Awesome. Awesome. Mercedes, you want to kick
25:40
it? Yes.
25:42
Yes. Well, my initial is better similar
25:44
to our us because we did Spanish
25:46
to children and,
25:48
and also very small children.
25:51
We have students of four
25:54
years old, five years old. Um,
25:57
and, and one differences
26:00
that we, when we start this school into
26:02
south end for. Eh,
26:05
we pretty much create a curriculum for
26:07
Spanish-speaker children who are
26:09
the students that we have at the moment, many,
26:11
many families, immigrant families
26:13
coming to the states for the first time.
26:15
And you want the children's to
26:18
maintain the language, to keep that heritage,
26:21
to give everything
26:23
at home. Not only sometimes spinalis
26:25
asked me. What, why
26:28
do they Spanish? They already speak
26:30
Spanish. And they say, because
26:32
they are children, they're small children. They also
26:34
need to learn how to read and
26:36
write in Spanish and not as
26:39
a five-year sold, but you
26:41
growing and.
26:44
That's great. Well, I
26:46
mean, outta or, or Mercedes, if you're interested
26:48
in having a 42 year old student, uh, you
26:51
know, I might apply for your schools,
26:53
but honestly there's
26:56
clearly a community here. Um,
26:59
one thing I wanted to point out, we're also growing
27:01
our community on Facebook. Um,
27:03
so if anybody's listening on Facebook,
27:05
please share this right now. Uh, let's
27:07
try and get more people into this group, you
27:09
know, who want to be a part of it now? Very
27:12
successful. That's awesome. It
27:14
is not all roses. We know that. So
27:17
I'm going to ask you guys a question. I want
27:19
you to talk about, uh, you know, the,
27:21
the fact that you potentially are still
27:24
struggling with management and administration
27:26
aspects of running your big online learning
27:29
company. Now, some of those challenges
27:31
might be. Cause we've heard from people.
27:33
They are communication, registration,
27:35
safety, security, and making it engaging.
27:38
So, uh, we'll start with Alex,
27:40
Alex. Uh, just please tell
27:43
us, what are you still struggling with, man?
27:47
Um, I mean, the
27:49
it's constantly
27:51
evolving. Uh, it's been almost two
27:53
years. It will be all we do online. We've been doing
27:55
in person for a long, long
27:57
time teaching languages for a long, long time,
27:59
but. Uh, online,
28:02
just figuring out how to, uh,
28:06
get to present the offer
28:08
is an ongoing theme. Exxon-Mobile
28:10
we never stop and quality
28:12
control with the teacher is like, So
28:15
much resources, just go into that.
28:18
Uh, watching the
28:20
teachers teach, go into classes,
28:22
making sure there's like a strong quality control,
28:24
implement new strategies
28:27
with teachers. Uh, I think it was said
28:29
in the first question that the amount of time we
28:31
could put in our
28:33
teachers and our theme team, and
28:35
this is. So,
28:38
so, so huge. You would
28:40
have no idea by
28:42
just taking a class online.
28:45
No idea of what's going
28:47
in the backend D all of these questions.
28:49
You said registration presentation
28:52
of the offer management quality control
28:54
is like conversations. We
28:56
have every day and Friday to.
29:00
Okay. Okay. I'm going to go
29:02
back to ATA. Tell us, you
29:04
know, again, looks like you've got a fantastic business.
29:07
That's booming in New York city, but
29:09
it can all be amazing. What are you struggling?
29:12
I think that what we've been struggling
29:15
is that constant evolving
29:18
of the field. Um,
29:21
right when we started, right. Well,
29:23
we say one year before the pandemic, uh,
29:26
so we have. You
29:28
know, like this thing going on, like in person,
29:31
it's always like, okay, we cannot do this anymore.
29:33
Okay. So let's try it. Let's see how,
29:36
like, it was just a shot
29:38
of like, we'll see how it goes. And
29:41
we started online and we,
29:43
before the pandemic, we used to date exclusively.
29:45
Like we have grown up in me program,
29:48
like a music program for babies and solvers.
29:50
That's what we used to do. Um,
29:53
so Simon is like, well, we can. Three-year
29:55
olds in front of the computer, like,
29:57
so we need to evolve and start teaching
29:59
to older kids. And then
30:02
I'm like, well, but now we
30:04
need to go back in person. Oh no. Now
30:06
schools are closing again. Okay. So now the registration
30:08
up for this. So it has been a constant
30:12
evolving, and I think that
30:14
that has been there. It
30:16
doesn't struggle, but
30:18
the struggle is not about the environment.
30:21
The struggle. I think that as business owners is
30:23
to be able to adapt and to be able
30:26
to not hold tight on, like,
30:28
what am I going to do if this doesn't work?
30:30
It's like, just letting go, going, going with
30:32
the flow. Um, but yeah,
30:35
just adapting, constantly adapting.
30:37
I think that that has been the challenge that
30:39
everyone can relate. Uh, but
30:41
that's the reason we're still afloat while
30:43
all their businesses suddenly have been
30:45
shoved down because they hadn't been
30:48
able to adapt and evolve.
30:50
Yeah. Well, the beautiful thing at the end of the day,
30:53
as somebody who started two businesses and sold
30:55
them is that you really got no control.
30:57
You know, you got to trust your gut, you got to go with
31:00
the flow and you got to, you know, improvise
31:02
and adjust on a daily basis, which sounds
31:04
like that's what you're doing. So Rebecca. Challenges
31:08
for Minneapolis. I'm
31:10
going to be
31:10
honest. And I'm going to be a little bit of an oddball here.
31:13
I love the challenges because
31:16
they all represent opportunity. Every
31:19
time we have to pivot or flip,
31:22
um, there are all sorts of
31:24
amazing creative ideas that come out
31:26
of our team that we're able to put
31:28
out in the world, um, that
31:31
just make us better at what we do.
31:33
We, you know, prior to the pandemic,
31:36
we were a large language program in the city.
31:38
We went into schools before school, after school, during
31:40
school babies, toddlers, like we taught. A
31:43
lot. Um, and when we flipped,
31:45
we had to be really creative with how
31:47
we're interacting with kids. What are ways,
31:50
um, especially as we're putting, you
31:52
know, children as young, as 18 months old in
31:54
front of a screen to learn with us, how are we doing
31:56
that in a way that is not
31:59
only, you know, educate them well but
32:01
makes them interact with us.
32:04
And so we've really had, um, Kind
32:06
of a great time with making our class
32:09
really interactive. We've been shipping
32:11
out materials, having our teachers have the same
32:13
materials as our students in front of them. I
32:15
mean, the
32:18
challenges with registration and
32:20
communication have really just presented opportunities
32:22
to be better at what we. do To
32:24
be more communicative to look
32:26
at registration programs and say, okay, what do we need to create?
32:29
And how are we interacting with the
32:31
service providers that have those registration pieces
32:34
to communicate with them, to make those
32:37
systems more functional for
32:39
us?
32:40
Yeah. Well, Rebecca, you
32:42
know, amen on that. I mean, I certainly, if,
32:44
if you don't enjoy the challenges and
32:47
see them as opportunities, you ain't going to be a part of this
32:49
panel for long or be in business.
32:51
You know, we know that, you know, so Mercedes. We're
32:54
going to come to you. Uh, we've
32:56
got things like registration and
32:58
monitoring and communication and making classes
33:00
interactive. Is there one specific thing there
33:03
that you're still struggling with?
33:06
Uh, this time I would say communication,
33:09
uh, is hard for me to
33:12
communicate what we are doing.
33:14
I mean, nobody that parents that are they
33:16
are, or with the classes back with
33:18
the new virus to get
33:21
new students, it's hard to show.
33:24
All the values of the online learning
33:26
like that. And for me,
33:28
I mean, I, social media, eh,
33:31
many things, but it's, it's hard
33:33
for me. It's hard. I don't know how to show
33:36
it. I don't know how to say the things
33:38
I just said, uh,
33:40
is, is, uh, yeah. And also
33:43
what I've seen because I partied, I have
33:45
participated in different language
33:47
programs as a system. For
33:51
a study French, for example. And
33:54
then, and they communicate
33:56
a lot with the parents, not be a text
33:58
message. I do text messages
34:00
or emails, but they, I mean,
34:02
their parents are completely, uh,
34:05
they know everything. They have the
34:08
class, they see. Can
34:10
you guys have been doing in the class?
34:13
Not only recording, but also,
34:15
yeah, I mean, I can do, but it's a lot
34:17
of work. I'll work
34:20
on the teachers and the curriculum and everything.
34:23
Just email every class after every
34:25
class, what we have been doing.
34:29
Well,
34:31
yeah, there are definitely programs for that. And,
34:34
uh, I think we potentially have a solution
34:36
for that. Um, you know, we're, we're
34:39
truly all about building community here. I'm looking
34:41
around the, my screen here and everybody
34:43
here speaks. Uh, two
34:45
languages, which is really exciting. So we've got a
34:47
community of online language speakers
34:49
here. We also have a community
34:52
just who's here to support when it comes to
34:54
cohort-based learning and
34:56
they leverage most of them cook
34:58
too. So, uh, Dotan,
35:00
I can only imagine, has been sitting
35:03
here wanting to hop in,
35:05
you know, with the challenges that everybody's happy having,
35:07
um, which are opportunities. And
35:09
don't talk can talk to us about. Cook
35:11
to what he's seeing when he's talking to
35:14
other online language providers,
35:16
he's got an amazing video for us and
35:19
he's got an offer. Take it away.
35:22
I, I, you know, I like to
35:24
start by following up on what mark said. It's just shared
35:26
the big on, um, the
35:28
challenge of presenting what you're doing.
35:31
Um, cause cause we're doing.
35:35
Ourselves and you guys and the panelists,
35:37
uh, we're doing exceptional
35:40
education, uh, remotely,
35:43
uh, and changing lives and,
35:45
building futures for those kids.
35:48
W um, When you try to show
35:50
it, sometimes it looks like some boxes on the screen
35:53
that looks like anything else. Um,
35:55
and you have this challenge of really
35:58
showing that what you're doing is
36:01
exceptional and it is. I
36:04
And I still think that we if
36:06
we could look into the future five years from
36:08
now we would say, whoa, back
36:10
in 2021, we were in
36:12
the dinosaurs age in terms of how
36:15
things look like and the, the
36:18
infrastructure, but also the experience in
36:20
definitely the presentation. Um,
36:22
and you know, we are trying to build
36:25
that. Five years, future at
36:27
Clickto uh, I'll try and explain
36:30
in short what it is, but also,
36:33
um, say like what's, what's the offer.
36:35
So, um, just imagine,
36:37
when you are starting an online store, for
36:39
example, you'd use something like Shopify
36:42
because it is an end-to-end solution from. Marketing
36:46
selling, and delivering all the operational
36:48
payment collection, and everything. When, if you're doing marketing
36:51
through emails, then you probably build them on MailChimp,
36:53
which isn't end-to-end for marketing email marketing.
36:56
So what we're building is an
36:58
end-to-end solution for online enrichment
37:00
businesses, basically. As
37:03
an online enrichment business, you need to take enrollments,
37:05
manage teachers, schedules, get kids on
37:07
the video, conferencing, collect feedback,
37:09
all the communication, all the things that we spoke about. So
37:12
where do you go? That's exactly the problem
37:14
that Clickto is solving. Um,
37:16
and we're doing it with having in mind
37:19
the way. that Organizations enrichment
37:21
businesses operate. Uh,
37:23
we are really experts of online classes
37:25
and we work with organizations in multiple
37:27
verticals, not just language. We
37:30
love helping them identify simple
37:32
ways to improve the workflow. And by
37:34
that really grow in scale, uh,
37:37
because a lot of the times organizations
37:39
don't realize that they're stuck
37:42
because of the way. They
37:44
worked because of the way they manage things. And
37:46
by releasing that, by letting that
37:48
go and having this all being automated
37:50
and managing one single place, it
37:53
gives them the platform to scale and grow. So
37:55
if those of you have joined us
37:57
today, um, so this webinar,
37:59
and if you'd like to have a consultation
38:02
session to really help
38:04
you upgrade your efficiency and become
38:06
a stronger online class provider. I'm
38:09
really happy to offer a super valuable
38:11
consultation called at no cost.
38:13
And this offer is only available during this
38:15
webinar. So Joyce is now going to
38:18
put the link on the chat and you're
38:20
welcome to go and find the color, the few
38:22
condor options and book
38:24
it, um, for this coming
38:26
week. Um, I
38:28
want to show you a, um, one minute video
38:31
of, uh, what clicked is about, and then
38:33
we'll wrap it up. Uh,
38:35
so here it is.
38:37
When I
38:37
build an online live learning program,
38:39
I use a calendar to schedule the video meetings
38:42
and then assign them to our teaching staff for
38:44
processing new student accounts. I use
38:47
a registration system and a payment processing
38:49
software. Then I go to my email
38:51
to send video conferencing links and to
38:53
communicate with the cohort groups to
38:55
record attendance and track student progress.
38:58
I also use different. And
39:00
lists, or I can
39:02
manage my online education business
39:04
all in one place with Clicktale.
39:08
Now I can open a single course or
39:10
scale up, but providing multiple programs
39:12
with various cohort options in
39:15
just a few clicks, I can publish each
39:17
cohort option on our course catalog
39:19
for easy registration and payment.
39:22
Then everything comes together on the agenda
39:24
screen where the teaching staff can easily
39:26
access their assigned classes. Our
39:28
teaching staff takes advantage of a multitude
39:31
of tools that are designed to deliver an immersive
39:33
live learning experience. Each
39:40
student uses their secure, personal access
39:42
link to join. Plus eliminating the
39:45
use of multiple links and a password.
39:55
click to automatically tracks, attendance,
39:57
student engagement, metrics, and post-session
39:59
feedback, which helped me make data-driven
40:02
decisions. Join the cohort
40:04
based learning revolution and scale
40:06
up your education business. Get
40:08
started now at click to.
40:12
All right. Um,
40:15
before we wrap it up, I think. You
40:17
know, all the experts that participated
40:20
where the panelists here in today's
40:22
panel are. I know they're all planning
40:25
to grow their online language, education
40:27
operation, um,
40:29
and a, uh, there
40:31
is a bright future for this, uh,
40:35
Vertical for this business, for this
40:38
opportunity for kids and adults
40:40
to, uh, meet and
40:43
people from different places and
40:45
bridge over cultures and really learn
40:47
this amazing skill, um,
40:50
with, and we hope that with click to that
40:53
should be easy as one click, as we like
40:55
to say. And really the, the
40:57
most successful that this category
40:59
of online learning is the most more
41:01
successful. Each of us is going to
41:03
be. So, thank you so much,
41:05
Josh. Last time.
41:07
Yeah, I, I don't know about you guys. Uh,
41:09
but that, that video seriously
41:12
gets me pumped up. We are passionate
41:14
about, um, online learning
41:16
for sure. Uh, I am personally
41:19
very passionate about online learning when
41:21
it comes to languages as well. So maybe I'm extra
41:23
pumped up today. Um, and I
41:25
think this is a great group here that we
41:27
got together. So I think Dotan, you know, to your point,
41:30
If somebody were to see us from back
41:32
here and they just saw boxes on a screen,
41:35
they would say, well, that looks kind of boring.
41:37
Um, and maybe 20 years from now, they will.
41:39
But the energy that we got together,
41:42
you know, having this discussion from all over the world,
41:45
you know, from Mexico, from Miami,
41:47
from Minneapolis to Montreal, to
41:49
Israel, It was fantastic.
41:52
So thank you all for joining us. Um,
41:54
let's keep the conversation going. We've got this
41:56
great community on Facebook. I'm sure
41:58
everybody here, Dotan,
42:01
everybody would be happy to help anybody.
42:03
Um, who's in the, who's in the chat. Who, who,
42:05
who sees this 20
42:07
years from now. So let's keep the conversation
42:10
going. Thank you everybody for joining us
42:12
thank you very much, everybody.
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