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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to

0:32

another episode of Lights Out. Today,

0:35

we are diving into England's most

0:37

haunted castle. The castle we're

0:39

going to be taking a look at today

0:41

is Chillingham Castle. Chillingham stood

0:43

as a checkpoint for troops crossing

0:45

into Scottish territory. It's gained

0:48

the reputation of being one of the

0:50

most haunted castles in Europe. Legend has

0:52

it that the 7th Earl of Tankerville

0:55

hired an occultist to perform rites at the

0:57

castle in the 1920s, Alistair Crowley. Some

1:01

have heard the cries of pain and fear, and

1:03

he's often seen in a passage. So

1:07

from the world of spirits, there

1:09

descends a bridge of

1:11

light, connecting it with

1:13

this, or whose

1:15

unsteady floor that sways and

1:18

bends wander our

1:20

thoughts above the

1:22

dark abyss. Light

1:31

Out, everybody.

1:42

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to

1:44

another episode of Lights Out. I'm

1:47

your host, Josh. This is my co-host, Austin.

1:49

Hey, what's up, guys? And

1:51

our producer, Daniel. How's

1:53

it going, everybody? Today, we

1:55

are diving into England's most

1:57

haunted castle, or so they say.

2:00

We'll see. We'll

2:03

see. The

2:05

castle we're gonna be taking a look at today is Chilium

2:08

Castle and this

2:10

castle has extensive history going back

2:12

what thousands of years at this

2:14

point? Yeah. And I love

2:16

that. I love a paranormal place with a

2:18

strong history. I think it, I don't know,

2:20

makes for a good story, right? Makes

2:23

for a good story and it makes for tons

2:25

of paranormal activity as well as you'll see today.

2:27

A ton of

2:30

ghost hunters and paranormal investigators. I

2:32

mean on YouTube if you type

2:34

in Chilium Castle you'll find a

2:36

plethora of videos from

2:38

various youtubers and investigators over the

2:40

years who've gone there, stayed overnight,

2:43

and have captured some very interesting activity

2:46

here. We'll be showing you a little

2:48

bit of that but really today our

2:50

goal is to give you a

2:53

very extensive deep dive into the

2:55

very dark and brutal history of

2:57

this medieval castle. I mean

2:59

we all know the medieval times was just

3:03

beyond anything I think most of us

3:05

can comprehend, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's one

3:07

of the most fascinating time periods in

3:09

history but I feel like it's also

3:11

one of the most gruesome and violent.

3:14

With that said I think plenty of people did live

3:17

very peaceful lives during the medieval era but

3:19

I think when we look back on history

3:21

especially when you're talking about a castle and

3:24

warfare it just gets a little grimy. Crymies

3:27

is understated. Yeah, it gets

3:29

torturous. Yeah. At times as we'll see

3:31

here at Chilium Castle. With that being

3:33

said shall we just dive in and

3:36

start at the very beginning here? I'm ready.

3:39

Let's do it. So

3:42

the medieval Chilium Castle sits in

3:44

the northern part of

3:47

Northumberland England. It was

3:49

a 12th century monastery for some time and

3:52

later it became an absolute stronghold.

3:55

In its early days an original manor house

3:57

stood there but it was destroyed by a

3:59

Scottish wreath. in 1296 when

4:02

the wars of Scottish independence began.

4:05

In 1298 the manor was rebuilt, but this

4:08

time it was fortified with stone. As the

4:11

war between England and Scotland raged on

4:13

King Edward I stayed at this fortification

4:15

while on his way to Scotland. He

4:18

was headed to battle a Scottish army led

4:20

by William Wallace, a sexually

4:23

who Mel Gibson inaccurately

4:25

portrayed in the very

4:27

very good movie Braveheart, one of

4:29

my favorite movies. Oh yeah, love

4:31

that movie. It's funny because they

4:33

say it's one of the most

4:35

historically inaccurate movies and like

4:38

William Wallace wasn't even Braveheart.

4:41

They like just got so much run.

4:43

They took a lot of liberties, but

4:45

still a great movie. Great film. Yeah,

4:48

great one. The

4:50

stronghold of Chillingham ordered England and

4:52

Scotland. Chillingham stood as a checkpoint

4:54

for troops crossing into Scottish territory.

4:56

Other times it was seized by

4:58

the Scottish, but a successful siege

5:00

on this castle is nearly impossible

5:02

because of its ultra thick walls.

5:05

Chillingham became a fortified castle by 1344

5:09

under Edward III after it underwent a

5:11

series of enhancements or battlements

5:13

were added. Towers were constructed,

5:15

cells in a torture chamber were

5:17

added to the dungeon below. During

5:20

the war many of the battles here were violent

5:22

and bloody. As we know medieval warfare was not

5:26

similar to how warfare is today.

5:28

Violence still, but hand-in-hand combat

5:31

is just a whole other. Very

5:33

personal, yeah. Definitely

5:35

brutal. And it was

5:37

usually at the cost of the Scottish troops. Its

5:40

walls and towers were so high that shooting

5:42

arrows basically did nothing. Cannons wouldn't

5:45

be available until several decades later and the

5:47

troops would fall into the muddy moat when

5:49

they approached. The English defenders of

5:51

the castle would stand on the walls and towers

5:53

throwing hot oil and bodily fluids

5:55

down at the Scottish troops until they

5:58

would eventually retreat. That

6:00

sounds horrific to me. Guess you gotta use

6:02

what you got, right? Can you imagine getting

6:04

like hot oil dumped on top

6:06

of you as you're sieging a castle?

6:08

We're like piss? Yeah, I'm like, yeah,

6:10

I'm good. I'm going home. All the

6:12

poop buckets just get unloaded on here.

6:14

There's human feces, you're getting burned with

6:16

oil. Yeah, no thanks. I think that

6:18

would make me retreat real quick. Yep.

6:22

The castle was still safe, even when

6:24

cannons and gunfire came into play. Some

6:26

of its stone walls were built 10 to 15 feet thick. That

6:31

is a lot of stone. And since it

6:33

was so well fortified, it made a great place for

6:35

royalty to stay. Some used it

6:38

as a hunting lodge, others came for private

6:40

visits on vacation. It's by the

6:42

roaring fireplaces in the dining room and feast

6:44

on elk roast and strawberry jam as

6:46

people burned alive outside. As the screams

6:49

echoed through the air and they're just

6:51

hanging out, having a great time behind

6:53

the 10 to 15 foot thick walls.

6:56

Eventually the war between England and Scotland

6:59

ended in 1346 and over time the

7:01

castle transformed. They filled the

7:03

moat and converted some of the battlements

7:05

into residential wings. A banquet

7:07

hall and library were also installed. During

7:10

World War II, the castles used as an army

7:12

barracks. The decorative wooden side was

7:15

stripped and burned for warmth. And after

7:17

the war, the castle fell into disrepair.

7:19

The floorboards were gone and the lead roof was

7:21

removed. The weather then began

7:24

to damage large sections of the castle

7:26

that fell into disrepair and became a shell of what

7:28

it used to be. And the

7:30

owners had stopped maintaining it for years. Some

7:33

of the earliest documented owners were the Earls

7:35

of Tankerville, dating back to the mid 1200s.

7:39

And they were in the Gray and Bennett families.

7:41

Many of them belonged to the most noble

7:44

order of the garter. This was basically an

7:46

order to connect the most powerful nobles to

7:48

the king. Although most of

7:50

them were loyal, eight family members were

7:52

eventually executed for treason. They did not

7:54

take that lightly treason back then. Some

7:57

were later hanged, drawn and quartered even.

8:00

and their heads were impaled on spikes as

8:02

a warning. Some Game of Thrones shit, basically.

8:05

The members who remained loyal owned the castle

8:07

up until the 1980s. Then the land

8:09

was divided and sold. The castle's condition was

8:12

so poor by then that the National Trust

8:14

in the English Heritage didn't even want

8:16

it. It says a lot. So

8:19

in 1982 the castle was bought by

8:21

Sir Humphrey Wakefield, whose wife Catherine

8:23

was a descendant of the original graze

8:26

of Chilium. At the time

8:28

of its sale, dead pigeons and rats

8:30

infested the castle, the roof was falling

8:32

in, and the walls were crumbling. From

8:34

then on, Sir Humphrey spent a small

8:36

fortune to restore the castle to its

8:38

former glory. During the restoration,

8:40

supposedly several skeletal remains were uncovered. They

8:42

had been buried in the walls or

8:44

down in the dungeon below. The remains

8:47

were removed and much of the castle was

8:49

restored to its original condition. The

8:51

interior renovations and the landscape have changed throughout

8:54

the years, but the actual structure

8:56

of the castle remains the

8:58

same. The architectural detail on

9:00

its massive walls still stand where they did

9:02

hundreds of years ago. The complex

9:04

is shaped like a rectangle with a courtyard in

9:06

the center. Four towers stand on each

9:09

of the corners and one side is connected to a

9:11

large garden. The opposite side has

9:13

a few smaller buildings attached. Although

9:15

much of the surrounding area has been cleared,

9:17

there are still pockets of dense forest all

9:19

around it. By 2020, sections of

9:22

the castle were open to the public. This

9:25

included eight rooms inside the castle and a

9:27

few of the outbuildings that have also become

9:29

available for holiday rentals. Thanks

9:52

for watching! a

10:01

couple castles in Ireland not England

10:03

though. Oh really? Yeah. What

10:05

was your thoughts? Were you like shocked by how big

10:07

they were and just how they were built

10:09

or were you kind of underwhelmed? No,

10:12

I was honestly pretty shocked on how they were built.

10:14

They're a lot smaller than you think on the inside.

10:16

Like they're these grand things on the outside but they

10:18

are quite small and cramped on the inside which makes

10:20

sense. But I felt cramped going

10:22

up the stairs. I felt cramped going through doorways.

10:25

It's really cool, I'll be honest, but they are a lot

10:27

smaller on the inside than you'd expect. Especially

10:30

if you have like 10 to 15 foot

10:32

thick walls. I'm assuming the interior

10:34

is kind of small. Not a lot of natural

10:36

lighting. How

10:38

many windows do they have? The one

10:40

I went to, not

10:42

really any windows. But

10:45

I do have a life goal of mine is to

10:47

go to Prague Castle. That's the one I really want

10:49

to go to. I

10:51

think it's technically the largest castle system in

10:54

the world. It just looks incredible and it's been

10:56

really well maintained through the years and I also

10:58

just want to go to Prague. It's

11:01

an awesome city. That would be cool. It

11:03

sounds like you can almost do a full

11:05

Europe castle tour. Seriously, be

11:08

a bunch of castles. Probably the closest thing

11:10

we have to it is like Mesa

11:12

Verde. Oh yeah.

11:14

A lot of the indigenous settlements,

11:19

I mean many of them were destroyed but there are still

11:21

some Mesa Verde in Colorado is actually really cool. I have

11:23

been to that where they carved their

11:26

housing into the rocks, cliffs.

11:29

You have to climb these really steep ladders to get

11:32

up to them. Yeah, I did that a

11:34

few times as a child. Those are really

11:36

cool but yeah, that's really about it. I've

11:39

seen there was some grain silos that they

11:41

had from the indigenous, I think it was

11:43

the utes. I can't remember because I was

11:45

in Utah but they had stuff like that.

11:47

So I guess we do have that

11:49

in a sense. Over

11:51

the years the forest surrounding the castle was

11:54

cleared to make space for the chilling and

11:56

wild cattle. And you're probably like, can we

11:58

get to the paranormal stuff? But I

12:01

thought this was kind of interesting. Okay, so bear with

12:03

me This is actually a

12:05

rare breed and there are over a hundred

12:07

of them in this enclosed park on the

12:09

castle grounds And these rare

12:11

untamed cattle are one of the reasons

12:13

for the castles tourism because there's some

12:15

of the last wild untamed cattle in

12:18

The world there's actually like I didn't

12:20

realize this but there's actually like no

12:22

untamed cattle really wild cattle anymore It's

12:25

all interesting. They're all on rain. I didn't even

12:27

know that was a thing Yeah, so it's very

12:29

rare and a lot of people come here. They're

12:31

also a very white cattle so people come here

12:33

to just check them out but Besides

12:35

the cattle cillium has a much darker

12:37

side that has drawn probably more attention

12:41

Worldwide scheme the reputation of being one

12:43

of the most haunted castles in Europe

12:46

So sir Humphrey also began hosting these late

12:48

night ghost tours in recent years and you

12:50

can also pay To ghost hunt around the

12:52

castle through the night which is kind of

12:54

cool because I know not a lot of

12:56

places allow you to stay the night at

12:59

these and kind of We'll see in a

13:01

little bit that these teams of ghost hunters

13:03

kind of have some free reign in the

13:05

castle But as its

13:08

popularity grew it soon became known as one

13:10

of the most haunted castles in England and

13:12

some say there are as many as 100

13:15

ghosts that roam the grounds, which

13:18

is that's quite a lot a Poem

13:20

by the famous poet Henry Wadsworth

13:22

Longfellow was supposedly inspired by cillium castle

13:25

And I'm gonna read you some poetry.

13:27

Yeah, excellent I know there's probably

13:29

people rolling their eyes like can you

13:31

just get to the paranormal trap already?

13:34

I didn't come here for food. Yeah

13:37

All right. I'll try to make a phone home So

13:40

this is called haunted houses All

13:44

houses wherein men have lived and

13:46

died are haunted houses through the

13:49

open doors The harmless

13:51

phantoms of their errands glide with feet

13:53

that make those sound upon the floors

13:56

We meet them at the doorway on the stair

13:59

along Along the passages they come

14:01

and go, impalpable impressions on

14:03

the air, a sense

14:05

of something moving to and fro.

14:08

There are more guests at table than the

14:11

hosts, invited the illuminated

14:13

halls, is thronged with

14:15

quiet, inoffensive ghosts, as

14:18

silent as the pictures on the wall. The

14:21

stranger at my fireside cannot see

14:23

the forms I see nor hear

14:26

the sounds I hear. He

14:28

but perceives what is, while unto

14:31

me, all that has

14:33

been is visible and clear. We

14:35

have no title deeds to house or

14:38

lands. Owners in

14:40

occupants of earlier dates, from

14:42

graves forgotten, stretch their dusty

14:44

hands and hold in Mortmains

14:46

still their old estates. The

14:50

spirit world around this world

14:52

of sense floats like an

14:54

atmosphere and everywhere. Waffs

14:57

through these earthly mists and

14:59

vapors dense, a

15:01

vital breath of more

15:03

ethereal air. Our

15:06

little lives are kept in

15:08

equipoise, by opposite

15:10

attractions and desires, the

15:13

struggle of the instinct that

15:15

enjoys and the more

15:17

noble instinct that aspires. These

15:20

perturbations, this perpetual jar

15:23

of earthly wants and

15:25

aspirations high, come

15:27

from the influence of an unseen

15:29

star, an undiscovered

15:32

planet, in our sky. And

15:35

as the moon from some dark gate

15:37

of cloud, there's over the

15:39

sea a floating bridge of across

15:42

whose trembling planks are fasties

15:45

crowd into the realm

15:47

of mystery and night. So

15:50

from the world of spirits there

15:52

descends a bridge of

15:55

light, connecting it with

15:57

this, o'er whose

15:59

unsteady forces. floor that sways

16:01

and bends wander

16:03

our thoughts above

16:05

the dark abyss. Wow,

16:10

that just shook me to my core, man. Whoo!

16:15

If you're still with us, if you're

16:18

still there, hello. Took

16:21

a little poetry break there. Can

16:23

you explain what this

16:25

means? From

16:28

what kind of poem is this, Mr. Writing

16:30

Major? I think he's basically just very

16:33

inspired by this concept of

16:35

the haunted house, the haunted

16:37

building, and he's kind of

16:40

just explaining all

16:42

these things in medieval terms. In

16:44

medieval language. How

16:47

they connect us to this

16:49

ethereal play in the spirit world,

16:52

and there's something inherent

16:55

about property, about

16:57

these places, these physical places

17:00

that connect us. I

17:02

like it. That's what I got from it. I don't

17:04

know. He might have been talking

17:06

about something else. Very

17:09

very, I love the delivery.

17:11

I think round of applause for Austin's delivery

17:13

on that for sure. Thank you. Beautiful.

17:17

Let's talk about what you all came here for.

17:20

The evil that has

17:22

resided within this castle. We're

17:24

going to talk about John Sage,

17:27

or John Dragfoot, as he's

17:29

known. One legend of Chillingham

17:32

Castle dates back to centuries. During

17:34

the bloody years of war between England and

17:36

Scotland, many Scottish men died at the hands

17:38

of a man named John Sage. He

17:42

had been nicknamed John Dragfoot, and he's also

17:44

been called the Butcher of the

17:46

Scots and the epitome

17:49

of evil. And you'll see why. He

17:52

was a lieutenant serving on the front lines, but he

17:54

suffered an injury to one of his legs, which

17:56

caused him to limp, and he could no longer

17:58

fight in the war. He begged

18:01

Edward I to give him another job. Edward

18:03

had noticed how sadistic John was, so he was like, hmm,

18:06

I got the perfect job for you there, buddy. So

18:08

they decided to keep him in the castle as

18:10

their torturer and executioner.

18:13

During his three years at Chillingham, it's

18:15

said that he tortured hundreds, possibly thousands,

18:17

of men who were prisoners of war.

18:21

Sometimes he would even torture women and children. Apparently

18:24

he tortured more than 50 people a

18:27

week, which I think you've got to

18:29

be a sadistic fuck to use. Yeah, that's an insane

18:31

quota. He'd often

18:33

used thumbscrews, a famous medieval torturer

18:35

device, who was made to clamp

18:38

down on victims' fingers or toes.

18:41

As John would screw the metal clamp tighter

18:43

on the fingers or toes, the metal plate

18:45

would eventually shatter the bones. Sometimes

18:48

spiked plates were added for a more

18:50

sadistic version. Victims

18:52

were also put inside iron cages and left to die.

18:55

Others were impaled on spikes or beheaded on

18:57

the block. Supposedly John

18:59

Sage also used the rack. This

19:01

was a device famous for its use in the Tower of

19:03

London. John would use a similar

19:06

one down in the torture room. He'd pull on

19:08

ropes tied to a victim's wrists and ankles, and

19:11

this stretched the body and dislocated

19:13

the victim's joints. Once

19:15

John got bored of that, he would use

19:17

the scavenger's daughter, which did the exact

19:20

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19:22

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19:25

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21:35

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21:37

and they would fall down into the cramped

21:39

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21:42

their death. When he

21:44

would get bored of the traditional torture methods, he

21:46

would begin to invent his own torture devices. One

21:49

of his favorite methods was hammering dozens of

21:51

iron nails into a large wooden barrel. There

21:54

are several lakes and ponds near the castle and near

21:56

one of the larger lakes. They're said to be a

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22:00

do is he would stuff his victims into

22:02

the nail-filled barrels and then roll them down

22:04

the hill into the lake. Oh

22:08

my god gross. So

22:10

as you can imagine they'd be inside the barrel

22:12

being played to death as the barrel rolled down

22:14

the hill and sometimes he would roll two at

22:16

a time down the hill to race them for

22:18

fun. It's said if you find

22:20

the lake and reach down into the water invisible

22:22

hands will grab you and pull you to

22:25

the bottom. Apparitions of children

22:27

can also be seen running along the water's

22:29

edge. When John wasn't torturing the

22:31

Scottish prisoners he would also act as an

22:33

executioner when needed and some say he killed

22:35

up to one thousand people.

22:37

By the end of the war

22:39

the English needed to get rid of its Scottish prisoners

22:42

so what's a great

22:44

way to just get rid of a lot of people

22:46

at one time? Well they built a bonfire in

22:48

the castle's courtyard after the fire

22:51

was lit men women and even children

22:53

were dragged out and thrown into the

22:55

flames. The ghosts of those who burned

22:57

alive can still be seen in the courtyard today. Sometimes

23:00

disembodied voices can be heard

23:02

including screams and people gasping

23:04

for air. The

23:06

youngest children were spared but they had to

23:09

watch their friends and family burn alive.

23:11

Then they were taken to King Edward's personal quarters and

23:14

here it's believed that 50 of

23:16

the youngest children were butchered to death

23:19

by John Sage with an axe. It's

23:22

wild to me because this place

23:24

is so beautiful and

23:26

I feel like it would be very surreal

23:28

to stand in this courtyard where it's I

23:30

don't know it's this fascinating complex.

23:33

Yeah or you go out to the lake

23:35

and you know that's all these nasty things

23:37

were happening. I just couldn't

23:39

get over the thought of like how much

23:41

blood was spilled right all over this place.

23:43

I mean to kill 50 children

23:46

with an axe inside

23:48

the castle that that image alone

23:50

is disgusting. In the king's chambers

23:53

too so he was a sadistic

23:55

fuck too. Maybe he was watching

23:57

or seems like why in his

23:59

chambers. Right and it seems like

24:01

he would be the guy calling the shots

24:03

to write would be the king So I

24:05

don't know but they were all sick man

24:07

Yeah And to make it even worse Supposedly

24:09

these children were killed because the English were

24:11

afraid that the Scottish children would retaliate once

24:13

they were adults So they just watched all

24:15

their friends and family get burned to death

24:17

and then they kind of second guess like

24:19

oh Well, what do we do with these

24:21

kids now? We just experienced this like we

24:24

let them live left to fight him later.

24:26

They're right scared of them now. Yeah Very

24:29

horrific. So today many visitors

24:31

have seen the apparitions of young children

24:33

inside King Edward's room and Another

24:36

ghost known as he has also been

24:38

seen in Edwards room But it's not

24:40

really clear what his history is if

24:42

he has some connection to this butchering

24:44

or not I'm not sure but he's

24:46

known for grabbing people's ankles and other

24:48

times He will trap people in chairs

24:50

by putting pressure on their thighs or

24:52

shoulders people have experienced a strange pressure

24:54

when they're sitting down in the room

24:57

But at some point during the years

24:59

of violence at showing him John sage quote

25:03

Accidentally killed his girlfriend Elizabeth Charlton, which

25:05

it's crazy that this guy accidentally right?

25:07

Yeah, give me a break And it's

25:09

kind of strange that this guy even

25:11

had a girlfriend Like

25:14

oh, what's what what are you up

25:16

to on your day to day? Oh

25:18

just torturing and executing people constantly I

25:21

think this is like a forced relationship though.

25:23

That's probably I mean, it was a different

25:25

time back then And like men, you know

25:28

kind of ruled true And so my guess was that

25:30

this was his if this girl

25:32

probably did not want to be this dude's

25:34

girlfriend That's a good light and

25:36

he probably had some status at the castle

25:38

just because of the nature of his job

25:40

So yeah, that's a good point But she

25:42

had come to visit him from a border

25:44

town and John was locking up the dungeons

25:46

for the night They went up to his

25:48

quarters and were fooling around in

25:51

the bedroom John claimed

25:53

that he accidentally strangled

25:55

her too hard during in

25:57

our course here, but

25:59

after this A

26:01

accident, as you would say, John Streak of

26:03

torture and murder, would finally come to an

26:06

end. Elizabeth's father was

26:08

actually the chief of a tribe

26:10

of border bandits, which were, I

26:12

guess, really common during this era.

26:15

He soon heard about what happened to

26:17

his daughter, and he called

26:19

BS. He knew there was something going

26:21

on. He threatened to join

26:23

the Scottish army in an attack against

26:25

the castle if they didn't do anything

26:27

about it. To avoid confrontation, British

26:30

authority finally punished John Sage after

26:32

all these years, and

26:34

after endless crimes against humanity, John

26:36

was finally handed over to the

26:38

Charlton clan. So,

26:40

you could probably understand that they

26:43

were all pissed, and this guy

26:45

was disgusting. So, this angry mob

26:47

of the Charlton clan ended up

26:49

cutting off all his fingers, all

26:51

his toes. Then they continued

26:53

to cut off his lips, nose,

26:55

and genitals as they hung him

26:57

by the neck. So,

26:59

Karma caught up to him, man. Yeah, really.

27:02

What a way to go out, right? I mean,

27:05

I think that was probably deserved.

27:07

Yeah. For everything that he did.

27:10

Yeah, seriously. Before we continue

27:12

the story of Mr. John

27:15

Dragfoot and what happens after he

27:18

dies, I wanted to play

27:20

just a little snippet from the YouTube

27:23

channel, Amy's Crypt. They

27:25

actually went out to Chillingham Castle, and they

27:28

experienced some very strange

27:30

activity during an EVP session

27:32

they had in King Edward's Room, and I

27:34

just thought it'd be worth sharing

27:36

because it gives you a little bit more

27:38

perspective into not only what the castle looks

27:40

like if you're watching, but also, you know,

27:43

and kind of hear some strange things that

27:45

they capture. King

27:47

Edward's Room is claimed to be one of

27:49

the more haunted and darker areas of the

27:51

castle, and from the moment we entered the

27:53

room and began to set up, we captured

27:55

activity with our REM pod triggering, noises occurring,

27:57

and orbs appearing in our footage. Can

28:00

you get me a couple? No. Should we go?

28:05

Do you like now? I'm not going back now. Oh,

28:08

hello. Thank

28:10

you. What

28:14

the heck? We're in pods going off

28:17

there's noise behind us. What

28:20

the heck? What

28:23

the heck? Okay,

28:27

what are we doing? I don't know what

28:30

I need to sit down and

28:32

see. There are drums, do not sit on these. This

28:35

is going nice. Okay,

28:42

we're about to do an

28:45

EVP session. Thank you for

28:47

trying to communicate with us

28:49

and sitting at the table with us. That is so freaky that the rim pod is just going nuts.

28:54

I don't want to be the one sitting next to the

28:56

rim pod. Don't a swap. No. I

28:59

don't want to be doing synapses chat. I swear there

29:01

may be bats up there. With

29:05

so much happening, we decided to

29:07

hit record on an EVP session

29:09

to see if we could pick up on any voices. My name

29:11

is Amy and I'm sitting here with this guy named Jared and

29:13

we call out to the spirit in

29:17

King Edward's room. We notice someone in here because

29:20

someone grabbed Jared. Can

29:22

you tell us who this is? Can you tell us whether you consider us a

29:24

friend or a foe? Who

29:33

was it that moved the glove from the front

29:35

door? I don't know. I don't know. I

29:37

don't know. I don't know. I don't

29:40

know. I don't know. I don't know. I

29:42

don't know. I

29:44

don't know. Can you tell us whether that

29:46

moved the glove, the metal glove on the

29:48

table? And

29:54

can you move it again? You're

29:58

going near that red light. That's where the gloves are,

30:00

maybe you can move them for us. Can

30:09

you tell us how long you've been here for? Are

30:14

there any children in here? No,

30:21

there was like a knock on the table. Can

30:23

you make a louder noise for us? Can

30:33

you just yell something really loud? I

30:42

feel very unnerved in here, I'm just gonna play

30:45

this back now. Riveting.

30:49

They're using a REM pod, which I had

30:51

to look up, I didn't know what a

30:54

REM pod was. Yeah, it's basically a device

30:56

that just, it has an antenna that basically

30:59

like scans 360 degrees and picks

31:01

up fluctuations in electromagnetic energy and

31:03

I believe temperature as well, some

31:05

of them. Gotcha. And

31:08

basically those lights go off,

31:10

so I mean,

31:13

hard to say what's triggering those,

31:15

I mean obviously people believe

31:17

that it's, you know, spirits potentially

31:20

moving around, movement, things like that. In

31:23

the one clip, briefly they pointed an

31:25

arrow to the top right corner where

31:27

they indicated maybe an orb was

31:30

moving through the shot and that's the thing with like

31:32

paranormal investigations, a lot of it you

31:34

don't really necessarily hear, pick up

31:36

in the moment. It's

31:38

so quiet or you just, especially like wharves and stuff,

31:41

you don't really see till after the fact. People

31:44

say the same about like even the old

31:46

investigations like with film photography, it wouldn't be

31:48

until after they developed the film where they

31:50

would notice something in it. Exactly. So

31:54

they were, I mean they were in King Edward's

31:56

room where, you know, allegedly 50 children were executed with

31:58

an axe. So

32:01

you can imagine that there's definitely

32:03

something going on in there. The

32:06

Phantom of Jon's dragfoot is actually still

32:08

seen at the castle to this day,

32:11

and when his name has been called,

32:13

objects in the castle have moved in

32:15

response, and things like music boxes have

32:17

been activated without anyone touching them. Jon's

32:20

apparition is often seen as

32:22

a man with a heavy build, he has

32:25

a thick beard that's quote as black as

32:27

night, and he can be heard

32:29

dragging his foot as he limps around the

32:31

castle. It's the sound of

32:33

a single footstep, followed by a long

32:35

scraping noise. Today

32:38

the public can tour Jon's dragfoot's torture

32:40

chamber, it actually isn't the

32:43

original torture chamber, it's

32:45

the one that they kind of set up

32:47

to just depict. Here are some of the

32:49

devices that he used, but the real one

32:51

is actually located down beneath in the dungeons,

32:54

and it's believed that at some point, at

32:56

least as the story goes a few

32:59

visitors once snuck down there and they

33:01

performed a botched seance inside this

33:03

torture chamber. It's unclear exactly what happened

33:06

during the seance, but some believe they

33:08

might have summoned some sort of spifle

33:10

entity, possibly a demon, but

33:12

since then the room has now been sealed

33:14

off with masonry, so no one can access

33:17

it. But if you listen

33:19

closely, it's said that you can

33:21

still hear the popping and cracking

33:23

of invisible joints and ligaments that

33:26

echo through the sealed torture room,

33:28

which is gross. Another

33:31

familiar ghost is known as the

33:33

Blue Boy, also known as the

33:36

Radium Boy, and he might have been a victim of

33:38

Jon Sage all those years ago. His

33:40

skeletal remains were discovered during renovation work

33:43

centuries after his death, they

33:45

were found close to what's known as the Pink Room.

33:48

His skeleton was found surrounded by fragments of

33:50

blue cloth and his fingers were broken. One

33:53

theory suggests that the boy was bricked inside

33:55

the wall while he was still alive, and

33:58

he smashed his hands trying to escape. trying to escape.

34:00

That is brutal man. Be

34:03

bricked alive? Oh my god. A

34:05

childish apparition can now be witnessed near the

34:07

pink room, usually around midnight. Some have heard

34:09

the cries of pain and fear and he's

34:12

often seen in a passage that

34:14

was opened through the ten foot thick walls connected

34:16

to the adjacent tower. A bright

34:18

halo of light appears and the figure of a

34:21

boy dressed in bright blue clothing has been seen

34:23

approaching those who sleep in the castle. Some

34:26

claim that once the boy's remains are buried they

34:28

stop seeing the figure, but when Sir

34:30

Humphrey began renting out the castle rooms

34:32

again, some guests complained of bright flashes

34:34

of blue light shooting out of the

34:36

walls. One visitor and his

34:38

mother witnessed the flashing but thought, you know,

34:40

it's just somebody breaking the no flash photography

34:42

rule and they saw a bright flash in

34:44

the pink room that had been roped off during a

34:46

castle tour. It wasn't until later that

34:48

they read about the blue boy in one of the

34:50

tour books and realized that the flash might have actually

34:53

been caused by him. Some have

34:55

tried to explain the flashing lights as an electrical

34:57

fault but the owners claim that there's no electrical

34:59

wiring in the pink room walls where guests and

35:01

visitors have claimed to see these flashes. So

35:04

this still remains a mystery today. The

35:07

blue boy wasn't the only set of skeletons

35:09

remains found inside the castle. According to legend,

35:11

three more skeletons were found in the chapel.

35:14

Two of them were found near the stained glass window

35:16

and the other was found in the back corner underneath

35:18

the wooden floorboards. This

35:20

one was a skeleton of a little girl. No

35:23

one could tell who she was or how she

35:25

died but it's believed that her spirit still wanders

35:27

the chapel and interacts with people.

35:30

She only communicates with female visitors though and

35:32

she's known for waving her hands through visitors

35:34

long hair. When people come

35:37

close to the corner where her remains

35:39

are found, some have experienced a profound

35:41

sense of sadness washing over them. Another

35:44

ghost in the castle is simply known

35:46

as Adam and he's Richard Craig's favorite

35:48

ghost. Richard is currently the resident ghost

35:50

hunter at Shilliam Castle and he's actually

35:52

the one who's uncovered a lot of

35:54

the spirit names and so on. So

35:56

according to him, Adam and Richard Craig

35:58

are the most famous ghost Adam

36:00

was once a French mercenary who made

36:02

tons of money while fighting for Scotland

36:04

in the war, and he's

36:07

also a little bit of a ladies man,

36:09

supposedly even his spirit. So he's

36:11

often seen with two of the female ghosts in

36:13

the castle who are known as Lisa and

36:15

Sally. Sally is actually

36:17

the mother of Elena who also resides

36:20

in the castle, she's another ghost, it's

36:22

unknown if Adam is her father. Richard,

36:25

the ghost hunter, has claimed to

36:27

have contacted these ghosts commonly

36:30

through a spirit box, and if you don't know

36:32

what a spirit box is, it's

36:34

a radio with a frequency scanner,

36:36

it's similar to just a

36:39

radio scanner but it's designed to

36:41

pick up electronic voice phenomena or

36:43

EVP so you can listen to

36:45

it and communicate with spirits supposedly.

36:48

They were invented in 2002 and

36:50

ever since then they've been a go-to

36:52

device with all ghost hunters, I think

36:55

any ghost hunter channel that you come

36:57

across they will most likely have a

36:59

spirit box. The

37:01

devices usually output this loud

37:03

stuttering white noise, supposedly

37:05

the noise is meant to act as

37:07

some form of energy gate to access

37:09

the spirits. You can vocalize

37:11

a question to the spirits and if they

37:13

respond you should be able to essentially hear

37:16

their voice or some sort

37:18

of disturbance through this white noise.

37:21

So I don't know, how do you feel

37:24

about spirit boxes? Do you think they're legit? It's

37:27

hard to say obviously because

37:29

I mean there's

37:31

no scientific proof or

37:34

explanation behind it. I

37:36

think in theory it's a good idea and

37:38

I mean why not. I

37:40

am skeptical of spirit boxes

37:43

done on the phone. Yeah definitely. When

37:45

people use spirit box apps on the phone I'm

37:48

very very skeptical of those. Because

37:50

there's no way to actually pick up. It

37:52

doesn't have like a radio antenna, you know

37:54

like it's the same reason why your phone

37:57

doesn't pick up like AM FM radio native

37:59

right. So it's just using

38:01

the microphone on your phone and

38:03

then the app is producing this frequency

38:06

scanning. Right. But

38:08

I mean, I have a EVP device and I've

38:10

used it before and I haven't had luck with

38:12

it personally, but

38:15

I do think there's cheap

38:18

ones out there and then there's higher

38:20

quality ones. But again, they're

38:22

up to interpretation, right? And what you hear

38:25

through them is up

38:27

to interpretation and it's like, how do we

38:29

know that this is how

38:31

the ghosts are communicating and how

38:34

does it work, right? I think that's the big

38:37

question we all have is like, how do they

38:39

actually work? What's actually going on? Or

38:41

is it just picking up interference,

38:44

you know, signals, things like that? Because

38:46

I've seen somewhere it's like, it'll be

38:48

like, and then

38:50

it'll be like, is someone here? And

38:52

then it'll be like, John. And I'm like, okay,

38:55

I don't know what's going on here.

38:58

And it's like, what are the chances that

39:00

this ghost has a very like midwestern

39:03

accent? Well, I don't know that

39:05

those are actually like, that's the

39:07

ghost voice necessarily. I

39:10

think the device is translating

39:12

or picking up the message and

39:14

then audibly relaying

39:17

it. Gotcha. Okay. That

39:20

would make more sense. Right. Right.

39:22

And then the traditional spirit boxes, if you

39:24

do hear a voice, it's going to be

39:26

like this muffled, like, it's not going to

39:28

be like this clear audible, right? English voice

39:31

that you're hearing. Yeah. Like,

39:33

oh, that kind of sounded like you said, get

39:35

out or something like that versus some of

39:37

the other spirit boxes out there that actually

39:39

like take the interference

39:41

and then produce this like translators.

39:43

Okay. That makes

39:45

more sense than Richard

39:47

has used the spirit box to communicate with

39:50

dozens of these spirits and killing him. And

39:53

he's been very successful at doing it. And

39:55

his research is part of the reason why

39:57

we have the names and descriptions of so

40:00

many of the Chillingham ghosts today. And

40:03

our buddies, Sam and Colby, they've also

40:05

spent some time ghost hunting in Chillingham.

40:08

Here's a short clip of

40:10

them encountering some paranormal activity across

40:12

the castle. Oh,

40:21

woman wants me to leave, boom, turns on.

40:24

Thank you so much. I know, I'm sorry, there's

40:26

gonna be one more man. I

40:29

know I told you I'd leave and literally right

40:31

off the bat, you just said you didn't want

40:33

me here. And I respect that. Just for confirmation,

40:35

you tap one of these. Oh

40:38

my God. I'm gonna leave up here and I'm

40:41

actually gonna go to a different spot. Is

40:43

this where you live, Vern? I

40:48

told you. Did you make these scratches on the

40:51

walls here? US.

40:54

US. I

40:56

heard footsteps in here before and

40:59

I heard a loud, that sounds like something evil

41:01

would say. Is there a negative entity here by

41:03

the name of John Sage that we need to

41:06

be worried about? Please just give me an obvious

41:08

sign. I heard you walking around here earlier. I

41:10

heard a loud bang. If you can just make

41:12

that happen again, I'll know that's the sign. Please

41:14

just let me know. I want to help you.

41:21

What the fuck was that? That

41:23

was the biggest fucking slam I've ever heard.

41:26

That just gave me chills all over my

41:28

body. Everybody probably heard that. It's

41:30

a big bang. I heard a big bang. I'm

41:33

a bitch. Hello? What's up? There's

41:37

something evil here, guys, and that was

41:39

the sign. I asked for an obvious

41:42

sign. Bone

41:46

chill. Yeah, their videos are always hype.

41:49

Damn. The

41:51

bang. I definitely heard the bang

41:53

there. So it's like, there's definitely activity

41:56

going on, right? There's definitely unexplained

41:59

noises, explained, you

42:01

know, their, their equipment's going off. You've got the

42:03

motion flashlights that are flipping

42:05

on and on with motion. I believe. Uh, then

42:08

you've got the REM pod in there as well.

42:10

And then they've got the spirit box going there.

42:12

Yeah. So they got all the devices and I

42:14

like how they split up too. That makes it

42:16

more interesting. Cause a lot of these, you'll just

42:19

see it. They're all in a green room and

42:21

one room. It's very static, but I like how

42:23

they're also, they could, he heard

42:25

the big, the loud bang in one room and

42:27

the other guy, which I think he was in

42:29

a cell also heard the big bang. I don't

42:31

know. Definitely makes for a more interesting ghost hunt.

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45:00

here's a fun fact. Countless other ghost

45:02

hunters in Occultus have visited the castle

45:05

over the past few centuries and according

45:07

to Richard, the resident

45:09

ghost hunter, legend has it that the

45:11

7th Earl of Tankerville

45:14

hired an Occultus to perform rights at the castle

45:16

in the 1920s and that Occultus

45:19

was our another good buddy of

45:22

ours, the famous Alistair Crowley. If

45:25

you don't know Alistair, we've covered him in

45:27

a few of our episodes. It's a great

45:29

beast. Yeah. He

45:31

was the founder of the religion Thelema

45:34

and regarded as one of the most powerful

45:37

Occultus of his time. But the

45:39

idea was that they invited him to

45:41

try and protect the castle and the

45:43

Earl from witchcraft and the supernatural. So

45:45

even, you know, back in the 1920s,

45:48

they were kind of experiencing these problems. And

45:51

of course, who better to call? Yeah,

45:53

than Alistair. I don't know if he's

45:55

going to summon anything worthwhile here. The

45:57

problem was that he just made it worse. He

46:02

performed essentially some rituals there and

46:05

people think he might have just

46:07

cracked open a bigger supernatural portal

46:09

here which would also explain why

46:11

there's so much more paranormal activity

46:13

at the property to this day.

46:15

I tend to lean towards that

46:17

this is a legend rather than

46:19

a fact. I think to attach

46:22

Alstokroli to your castle just

46:24

adds that much more intrigue

46:27

and suspense to people. I couldn't

46:29

find any documentation that he actually

46:32

went there. This was relayed by

46:34

Richard Craig, the resident ghost hunter

46:36

there. Well and just the whole

46:38

reason for him coming

46:40

there doesn't really line up for

46:42

me because if you know anything about

46:45

Alstokroli, he's very into sex magic. Yep,

46:47

right. Sex magic was his thing. So

46:50

you've invited him to come and

46:53

perform sex magic rituals at the castle

46:55

in order to protect the castle. And

46:58

Earl from Witchcraft and the Supernatural is like

47:01

really doing quite the opposite. He's really interested in

47:04

using sex magic to open

47:06

up portal. Right, right. Whoa.

47:11

That's always the paranormal. Oh,

47:13

that was... Bro. That

47:15

was your mic. That's

47:18

wild. Oh,

47:21

man. Alstokroli,

47:25

are you here with us? What

47:27

the hell? It's always

47:30

Josh's mic. You're the target.

47:34

They don't fuck with me because they know

47:36

I won't believe it. Hello? We're

47:42

good? This

47:44

is what happens whenever we talk

47:46

about this shit. This is what

47:48

happens in here. That

47:50

to me is

47:54

more paranormal than what's happening in here.

47:57

This is more real to me. actual

48:00

fuck was that? Now my mic

48:02

is completely fine. This cable

48:04

is virtually new. It was

48:06

working completely fine. Riddle

48:09

me that. How did this happen? We

48:12

should start running some of those devices just

48:14

on hand during these episodes. I'm

48:18

gonna go get my ghost hunting kit and just

48:20

set it up in here and start. Yeah, we

48:22

just put it like in the corner or something

48:24

and just cease to detect anything. I should at

48:26

least bring the EMF in here and see what

48:28

the fuck is fucking with these microphones. That is

48:30

so weird though. When I'm talking

48:32

specifically about Aleister Crowley, shit

48:35

goes haywire. Can't

48:38

explain it. Well, thank

48:40

you Aleister for making your presence known

48:42

in our episode. We really appreciate it.

48:46

Before Aleister gave us a

48:48

sign here, I was gonna say, what if, you know,

48:50

he's super into sex magic. What if the

48:53

7th Earl of Tankerville, John Montague

48:55

Bennett was like, I'm inviting Aleister

48:57

Crowley here. And they're like,

48:59

for what? And he's like,

49:01

well, he's not gonna say sex magic. He's

49:04

gonna cleanse the house and the spirits out

49:06

of here and stuff. It's all gonna be

49:08

cool. But they actually just went to a

49:10

closed private room and did their thing. Did

49:12

their thing together. Oh,

49:16

all right. Well, that was not a creeped

49:18

out at all now. But that

49:21

was very strange. I've never

49:23

heard my mic go that

49:25

distorted though, randomly. Like

49:27

I've heard random buzzing and more

49:30

typical kind of like audio issues, but that was

49:32

just straight like, complete

49:34

distortion in the microphone. I

49:39

didn't do anything. Daniel, are you

49:41

pressing buttons over there? You

49:43

trying to bait us over here? Well,

49:47

there you have it. Paranormal's real.

49:49

Yeah, confirmed. Confirmed. Here today.

49:54

That was wild. What the hell? Yeah,

49:57

so this is another popular YouTube

49:59

channel. Seth Borden and

50:01

he went out there with a couple other youtubers

50:05

Exploring with Josh who I'm a big fan of

50:07

not just cuz we have the same name, but

50:09

great channel as well They did

50:11

an overnight stay in Children

50:14

Castle and here's what they experienced Is

50:17

John or Edward here King Edward? The

50:24

flashlights are bright. Let's see what happens if we

50:26

turn off all the light. All right, we shut

50:28

the lights off It's not bright anymore. Can you

50:30

help us out? Give us a sign that

50:33

you're here. Maybe a thump a nut Murder

50:42

oh my god, yo, no,

50:44

no to John John. Oh

50:48

No, I don't oh my god. Oh my

50:50

god, bro. It's like you said it always

50:52

into us all Right now

50:55

John is that you who's getting

50:57

if you're John teacher You

51:00

know, what did you just say if you're talking you turn

51:02

it off? Oh my god And

51:06

just an evil murderer and this has been going with the whole story

51:12

Leave oh my god, please. Oh my god.

51:14

Why do you want us to leave John?

51:16

Oh Oh

51:23

my I knew it to think out again it

51:25

wants us out of here He

51:29

wants us out bro, you want to go to your

51:31

room I Just

51:35

heard a footstep on the other side of the table I

51:37

think they're just standing there telling us to get the hell out

51:39

of here and they're right in front of us But behind the

51:41

King's chair, all right, so do they want us to leave the

51:43

castle or do they want us to leave this room? I

51:50

Don't all this believe like multiple times clear evidence

51:52

with a flashlight and it makes sense to go

51:54

to the chapel or to the King's room Oh

52:00

shit. So they were in the dining

52:03

room, great hall area for that.

52:08

Fun little tidbit, those fireplaces

52:10

are actually fake. They

52:13

were installed for a movie that was shot there.

52:16

I can't remember which one, but then they just kept it

52:18

there because it looked cool. That's

52:21

cool, yeah. But that room's awesome. And

52:24

I know, I think that's where, in the same

52:26

in Colby one, one of them was also in

52:28

that same room. And

52:31

then the other clip I wanted to share is

52:34

actually from this past Halloween. And

52:37

this is a self-proclaimed

52:39

spiritual medium, Steven

52:42

Crawford. And he

52:44

shares a little bit of his experience being

52:47

at Chillingham Castle. I'm

52:50

Steven. That's the same room. I'm a spiritualist

52:53

medium. I've been invited last year to come

52:57

along and guest spiritualist, guest medium.

53:00

What's supposed to help bring spirit forward? I've

53:03

been doing this the last 15 years. And

53:06

it's something that I suppose has been

53:08

instilled into us, not just as a

53:11

job and as a belief system, but

53:13

in this place itself. This

53:15

place is drenched in spiritual

53:18

history with a bit of misery mixed

53:20

in, which is always a good thing

53:22

for the evening. Ouija

53:24

board, here we go. But

53:27

in comparison to what I've just experienced in the last

53:29

30, 35 minutes, there is no comparison. This

53:34

year is in my own opinion,

53:36

no working with spirit every day. It's

53:39

so much more active. So

53:41

I cannot wait to get going. On

53:43

arrival this evening, didn't even step

53:45

out of the car. And I

53:48

felt the eyes on the straightaway. The

53:50

met Richard had the main entrance and he

53:52

got a couple of bits of equipment out. And as

53:54

I was standing at the door, I felt like there

53:57

was a gentleman standing behind us. And

53:59

I felt happy to see the neighbors. William and

54:01

she have an awful long behold the

54:03

equipment first name that came out was William.

54:07

Chip visitors love this place. Yeah,

54:10

sees a lot of

54:12

activity. This was a part of the

54:14

charity event that goes

54:16

on there the Chronicle Sunshine Fund holds like a

54:19

Halloween Scarefest there.

54:21

Nice. Pretty good, pretty fun stuff. Another

54:24

unique spirit of the castle is Lady Mary

54:26

Berkeley and she's also known as the Gray

54:28

Lady. She had once been married

54:30

to Lord Ford Gray and Lord Gray inherited the

54:32

castle after his father's death in 1675. In 1681

54:35

Mary had seven siblings

54:38

including a 17 year old sister named

54:41

Henrietta. At some point their mother

54:43

began snooping around and she was suspicious of

54:45

something going on between Henrietta and

54:47

her sister's husband Ford. Eventually

54:49

a letter written by Henrietta was discovered and

54:51

it read quote, My sister Belle

54:53

did not suspect our being together last night for

54:55

she did not hear the noise pray

54:58

come again Sunday or Monday if the

55:00

last I shall be very impatient. The

55:02

letter was addressed to her sister's husband Ford Gray

55:05

and they've been having an affair for about

55:07

a year possibly longer behind Mary's back so

55:10

their mother Elizabeth banned the lovers from seeing one

55:12

another. Henrietta eventually escaped to

55:14

London with Ford and Ford abandoned his wife

55:16

Mary and their infant child at Chillingham Castle.

55:19

Ford was later imprisoned and found guilty of

55:22

the botching the Earl of Berkeley's daughter

55:24

but he never received any punishment for the crime and

55:27

he was later released. Today some say

55:29

you can hear the rustling of a silk dress

55:31

before you see Mary's ghost sweeping through the corridors

55:33

of the castle. Other times she's

55:35

been seen gazing out of the upper

55:37

floor windows. She's constantly searching for her

55:39

husband who abandoned her centuries ago and

55:42

she leaves a trail freezing cold behind her.

55:45

It's believed she might escape from her famous

55:47

portrait that hangs in the castle in the

55:49

middle of the night and returns before the

55:51

morning comes. So I had never

55:53

heard of these ghosts they're

55:55

just called silkies but in recent years

55:58

Mary's spirit has all also being considered

56:00

a silky. And these

56:03

types of spirits exclusively exist near the

56:05

border of England and Scotland. Most

56:08

silkies are friendly and harmless. They'll even supposedly

56:10

tidy up your house if you let them.

56:13

Other silkies might be a bit more

56:15

mischievous and play pranks on you. They're

56:18

often identified if they're seen wearing long

56:20

silky robes and that's what you could

56:22

hear her silky dress kind of moving

56:24

through the hallways and chilling him. So

56:28

as for Lady Berkeley, she's considered a

56:30

third type of silky. She's actually known

56:32

simply as a sad silky. Me

56:35

in real life. Straight to the

56:38

point of the second. Yeah, right, I know,

56:40

I love that. I love how they name

56:42

them based on just like, oh, they were

56:44

seen in a silky dress. Let's just call

56:46

them silky, that's it. Some

56:48

things you might have tried to watch over the

56:50

castle as it fell into disrepair over

56:52

the years. And one of the

56:54

most famous silkies of the border is

56:56

about 40 miles south of the castle

56:58

in a quiet village called, I hope

57:01

I'm pronouncing this right, Black

57:03

Hedden. In the mid

57:05

19th century, this village was haunted

57:07

by a supernatural entity which was

57:09

supposedly the original silky. Her

57:11

lore was documented in the book, According

57:13

to the Haunted Homes and Family Traditions

57:16

of Great Britain by John Ingram, and

57:18

it was published in 1897. So

57:22

it's believed that a woman had died

57:24

a miserable death and she was, quote,

57:26

overtaken by moral agony because I guess

57:28

she knew the location of a great

57:30

treasure. So she couldn't be

57:32

at rest in her grave knowing that this

57:35

treasure was hidden. And she

57:37

was often seen wearing flowing silk robes.

57:40

In the darkest and most solitary

57:42

parts of the roads in Black

57:44

Hedden, she would appear before lonely

57:46

travelers. Sometimes she broke through

57:48

the darkness in this bright flash of light.

57:51

If the traveler was on horseback, sometimes she would

57:53

appear on the back of the horse and

57:56

similar to Lady Berkeley, she could be

57:58

heard, you know, quote, ruffling in her

58:01

silks, so you often hear them before

58:03

you see them. When a

58:05

horse would notice her presence, it would panic

58:07

and bolt, and the rider would then struggle

58:09

with regaining control of his horse. And

58:12

after a moment, Silky would just vanish. She

58:15

could also be seen a few miles outside

58:17

of Black Hedden at Belsay.

58:20

Visitors would see her sitting in a

58:22

tree of twisted branches near a waterfall,

58:24

and this has become known as Silky's

58:26

Seat. When

58:30

she wasn't in her seat, she was

58:32

often terrorizing the villagers and travelers, and

58:35

in one story she picked out a

58:37

farm servant to harass on a nearby

58:39

bridge, now known as Silky's Bridge. In

58:53

another tale, there was once a female servant in

58:55

one of the houses in Black Hedden. She

58:57

supposedly heard a noise inside the house, and

58:59

when she looked up, she noticed the ceiling

59:01

of the room she was standing in was

59:03

collapsing. So she backed away and watched

59:06

it collapse. Something described

59:08

as quote, shapeless, black,

59:10

and uncouth fell into

59:12

the house from the ceiling. It was so

59:14

hideous, the servant didn't stop to look at

59:16

it in detail. Instead she just

59:18

bolted out of there, screaming at the top of

59:20

her lungs, quote, the devil's in

59:23

the house, he's come through the ceiling. So

59:26

obviously the rest of the family heard her screaming,

59:28

they were the heppels, and they

59:30

all panicked and ran. After they

59:32

found each other outside, they discussed if they should even

59:34

go back in and see what it was. Obviously

59:37

someone's saying that there's a devil in the house, you

59:39

know, it's like, do we even go back in there?

59:42

So after a while, no more commotion

59:44

stirred in the house, so the mistress

59:46

ended up taking the lead and she

59:48

headed back into the house with the

59:50

collapsed ceiling. From the

59:52

ground in the rubble was this

59:54

nasty, hideous thing that caused the

59:56

ceiling to give away. It

59:59

was this scary, scary thing. skin of an entire

1:00:01

black dog, head and legs and

1:00:03

all. But when she checked

1:00:05

it out she noticed it was a

1:00:07

carcass and it had been stuffed with

1:00:09

something really heavy which probably caused the

1:00:11

ceiling to give way. As

1:00:14

the mistress reached inside the mouth and down

1:00:16

the throat of this poor dog carcass she

1:00:18

grabbed a hold of dozens of gold

1:00:21

coins. This was apparently

1:00:23

Silky's long lost treasure and now

1:00:25

belonged to the Hepel family and

1:00:28

they lived on this gold for generations.

1:00:31

After this Silky was never heard from again. Since

1:00:34

her treasure was finally uncovered her

1:00:36

destiny was supposedly fulfilled here and

1:00:38

it's believed that more Silky's just

1:00:40

like this one still exist in

1:00:43

the specific border region of England

1:00:45

and Scotland especially in Chillingham Castle.

1:00:48

Which leads us to another Silky story.

1:00:51

A room inside Chillingham Castle where

1:00:53

another Silky might exist is

1:00:55

known as the Inner Pantry. This

1:00:57

was once used as a storage room or occasionally

1:01:00

a holding cell and you can rent the room

1:01:02

for a night if you want to press your luck. Looks

1:01:04

pretty nice, not too bad huh? The

1:01:08

pantry walls are made of cold thick stone and

1:01:10

it's believed this room is used to keep some

1:01:12

of the castle's treasure at some point. Each

1:01:14

night a guard would lock himself inside along with the

1:01:17

treasures and he'd be the only one with the key

1:01:19

so no one but him could get in or out.

1:01:22

On one of these nights a frail sickly woman

1:01:24

appeared out of thin air inside the room. He

1:01:27

asked the guard if he could fetch a glass of

1:01:29

water as she stumbled and held onto the nearby wall

1:01:31

for balance. Quickly the guard fled

1:01:33

the room and he wasn't sure what he had

1:01:35

just seen. He thought maybe a glass of water

1:01:37

might make the sickly apparition go away but when

1:01:39

he returned with a full glass of water the

1:01:41

woman had already vanished. The spirit

1:01:43

is also known as the Pantry Ghost. It's

1:01:46

believed she was poisoned to death in the Inner

1:01:48

Pantry possibly through a substance mixed in

1:01:50

a glass of water. It's believed

1:01:52

that if you see her she's an

1:01:54

omen of death and a member

1:01:57

of your family might die soon after

1:01:59

seeing her. One theory is

1:02:01

that this woman knew the location of a

1:02:03

treasure hidden somewhere else in the castle, similar

1:02:05

to Silky. She might have been

1:02:07

poisoned because she knew too much about the castle's

1:02:09

riches, and the only way to release her spear

1:02:11

from the castle is to follow her to the

1:02:13

location of the hidden treasure, and

1:02:15

no one has ever successfully done it. The

1:02:18

Silky isn't the only one who died in the

1:02:20

inner pantry, supposedly it's believed that a Spanish witch,

1:02:22

also known as a bruja, was

1:02:24

murdered here ages ago. It isn't clear

1:02:27

exactly how she died, but her last words were

1:02:29

a curse. She made it so

1:02:31

that anyone who took anything from the castle would

1:02:33

experience bad luck, and people, as

1:02:36

they usually do, try to steal stuff from these

1:02:38

types of locations. And

1:02:40

uh, bad luck, to say the

1:02:42

least, has fallen many of these people who have

1:02:44

done this, and they have actually returned these

1:02:47

stolen items back to the castle. Understandable.

1:02:50

I love that caveat though, because

1:02:52

it's like this one Silky's like,

1:02:55

I need to take you to this treasure so

1:02:57

you can find it and take it, but then

1:02:59

there's this witch who put a curse on the

1:03:01

castle, and nobody's taken anything. Another

1:03:05

legend mentions the large trees that surround

1:03:07

the castle, and out past the castle

1:03:09

garden there's this pathway that kind of

1:03:11

leads into the forested area. Some

1:03:14

of the largest trees you'll see here

1:03:16

are the European yews, and

1:03:19

in one area there's these three massive

1:03:21

yews once stood. Unfortunately today, two of

1:03:23

them have fallen, but one of the

1:03:25

original ones is still standing. They

1:03:27

have a really unique look to them. They're

1:03:30

kind of lumpy in their trunk, and

1:03:32

at the end of their branches they

1:03:35

have dark green needles and red berry-like

1:03:37

seed pods. Actually this

1:03:39

is a fun fact, the structure of the

1:03:42

ancient yew trees actually inspired the look of

1:03:44

the Whomping Willow, you know that from the

1:03:46

Harry Potter series. Because

1:03:48

it's funny, the Whomping Willow doesn't really look

1:03:50

like a willow, especially in the movie. It

1:03:53

looks more like a yew tree. But

1:03:55

in the middle ages, the wood from the

1:03:57

yews was used to make musical instruments for

1:03:59

an literature at longbows, but they

1:04:02

were also super poisonous,

1:04:04

and some suggest that these surrounding

1:04:06

ewes might have been used to poison the

1:04:08

pantry ghost to kill her. If

1:04:11

you were to eat even a small amount of their

1:04:13

foliage, it could be fatal. But

1:04:15

despite how poisonous they are, they're honestly

1:04:18

beautiful trees, and unfortunately these three

1:04:20

specific ewes at Chillingham are known

1:04:22

to be the location of just

1:04:25

more forms of torture and execution.

1:04:28

As the story goes, soldiers would often

1:04:30

take prisoners of war, criminals, or sometimes

1:04:33

just people loitering around the castle that

1:04:35

they didn't want nearby, and they'd hang

1:04:37

them in the trees. But they wouldn't

1:04:40

hang them how you'd normally hang someone

1:04:42

by the neck, right? They would actually

1:04:44

strip them naked, tie

1:04:46

a rope around their waist, and then

1:04:48

hoist them up. Some

1:04:51

were hanged upside down by their

1:04:53

ankles, and the victims would just

1:04:55

die from hunger, thirst, or compression

1:04:57

of the rope on the lungs

1:04:59

and organs. It

1:05:01

wasn't just to snap your neck or choke you

1:05:03

or anything. And it could sometimes take

1:05:06

10-14 days to die. Oh

1:05:09

my god. So it was basically just

1:05:12

a passive form of awful torture. But

1:05:15

one of these stories at Chillingham was the story

1:05:17

of these three monks who were passing by the

1:05:20

castle centuries ago. There's

1:05:22

not really an exact date for this,

1:05:24

but they saw several people hanging naked

1:05:26

from the yews, and their skin was

1:05:28

blistering from exposure, and they begged for

1:05:31

water. So the monks approached the

1:05:33

hanging victims. They tried to cover them up

1:05:35

with some clothes to give them some dignity

1:05:37

in their final moments and protect them from

1:05:39

the sun. They also fetched

1:05:41

some water, but when the

1:05:43

guards from the castle saw them doing this,

1:05:45

they then seized the monks and then just

1:05:47

ended up hinging them too. Which

1:05:50

is crazy. Usually monks, usually back

1:05:54

in those days. Longest people were moved

1:05:56

in. Yeah, they were kind of off

1:05:58

limits to this. But not at Chillingham.

1:06:00

on their way. Yeah, hang them all

1:06:02

I guess. No good deeds here. Yeah,

1:06:04

honestly. Many of the

1:06:06

bodies were left to hang for weeks until

1:06:08

they eventually fell to the ground and decayed

1:06:10

or somewhere eaten by scavengers. Today

1:06:13

many claim that the bones of the deceased can

1:06:15

still be found in the soil beneath these trees

1:06:17

and since they were never given a proper burial,

1:06:19

you know, that's usually a big indication that these

1:06:22

spirits will just wander around,

1:06:24

especially in this clearing that leads

1:06:26

to these trees. Bones

1:06:29

that look suspiciously like monks,

1:06:31

they're often dressed in robes, are often

1:06:34

witnessed crossing the grounds, and at night

1:06:36

some have heard painful whimpers up in

1:06:38

the tree branches where they would be

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I mean it all makes sense to me I mean

1:08:57

if there's gonna be anywhere paranormal where

1:09:00

paranormal activities gonna exist it's

1:09:02

this yeah honestly amount of

1:09:05

death and violence violence destruction

1:09:08

is seriously I think enough

1:09:10

to make anyone believe another

1:09:13

area outside the castle walls is known as Devil's

1:09:15

Walk or Devil's Mile this is a main roadway

1:09:17

to get in and out of the castle and

1:09:20

it's only about a quarter of a mile but

1:09:22

at one point it stretched much further many

1:09:25

who visit the castle exit after the night tours

1:09:27

when the Sun is already down and some have

1:09:29

claimed that bloodstains can be seen in the driveway

1:09:31

in the grounds that lead to the main gates

1:09:34

others have experienced strange electric phenomena while

1:09:36

approaching and leaving castle grounds batteries have

1:09:39

instantly drain and microphones have cut out

1:09:41

or picked up strange noises light

1:09:43

anomalies and orbs have also been spotted

1:09:46

and some have also heard disembodied footsteps when

1:09:48

no one else is around and

1:09:50

just like the area with the large you

1:09:52

trees people have found fragments of human bones

1:09:55

scattered along Devil's Mile supposedly the

1:09:57

English also hang the bodies of Scottish

1:09:59

soldiers and prisoners of war in the trees

1:10:01

that lion devil smiled to deter enemies from approaching.

1:10:04

Just like the victims at the yew trees, their

1:10:06

bodies would decay and fall to the ground and

1:10:08

most never got a proper burial, like many of

1:10:10

the others who died horrific deaths at the castle.

1:10:13

So with all the violence and torture and carnage

1:10:15

inside and outside the castle through the years, it

1:10:18

is no wonder that so

1:10:21

many people have gone to the Chilean castle

1:10:23

and have had strange experiences or, you

1:10:25

know, felt sick leaving too, like a lot

1:10:28

of people who've stayed there and are falling

1:10:30

ill after leaving for some time.

1:10:33

I mean, it's just a

1:10:35

very negative space. Richard

1:10:39

Craig, the resident ghost hunter, shout out

1:10:41

Richard, has a long running list

1:10:43

of apparitions witnessed at the castle. Many

1:10:45

of them have different backgrounds that existed at different

1:10:48

times throughout the centuries, but most of them have

1:10:50

one thing in common. They were

1:10:52

all involved in some form of tragedy

1:10:54

at Chillingham Castle. Luckily tragedy

1:10:56

is now rare at the castle these days, so

1:10:59

it seems like there's not really

1:11:01

any immediate danger to visiting, but

1:11:04

the unlucky spirits that reside there, especially

1:11:06

from the 1300s are just

1:11:08

stuck there, it seems like, for the rest of

1:11:10

time. But today, Chillingham is

1:11:13

still open for tours, ghost hunts, and

1:11:15

room reservations, but it's definitely not

1:11:17

for the faint of heart. So you know, if

1:11:19

you really are worried

1:11:21

about somewhere like this impacting you

1:11:23

physically, mentally, spiritually, then maybe stay

1:11:26

away. Take a pass on this one.

1:11:29

So that leads us to our final thoughts.

1:11:33

Do we really believe that this place is

1:11:35

haunted? And you know,

1:11:37

there's a lot of explanations

1:11:39

out there. It's kind of like

1:11:41

open to interpretation as to why

1:11:43

places become haunted and you

1:11:45

know, what's actually going on here. And I

1:11:47

found a very interesting post from, again,

1:11:50

no way to verify that this person is a medium,

1:11:52

but somebody who says that

1:11:54

they're a medium. And you know, they

1:11:56

kind of gave a very interesting explanation

1:11:58

I wanted to share. on just

1:12:01

ghosts, spirits in general and you know what's

1:12:04

actually going on there. So this

1:12:06

person is anima lumen from

1:12:09

reddit and this person says,

1:12:11

well someone who wholeheartedly believes in ghosts, spirits

1:12:13

and is well versed in the subject, I

1:12:15

am a medium so naturally I've just done

1:12:18

a ton of research into the subject plus

1:12:20

I've gathered via my own

1:12:23

experiences with discarnate, disinconate

1:12:25

beings. Death is when

1:12:27

the spirit becomes permanently severed from the physical vessel

1:12:29

it is bound to during life and once the

1:12:31

body can no longer hold the spirit or

1:12:34

the spirit for whatever reasons decides it's time to

1:12:36

move on it transitions from being bound to the

1:12:38

material realm to not being bound to it.

1:12:41

A spirit transitioning from being to

1:12:43

incarnate to disinconate is a

1:12:45

very complex process and it definitely varies in

1:12:47

every situation. There are

1:12:49

levels to how present or tangible spirit can

1:12:51

be. Spirits are those

1:12:53

souls that have entirely transitioned meaning there is

1:12:55

nothing really anchoring them and keeping them here

1:12:58

forcibly. They may choose to linger in

1:13:00

some capacity most of the time depending on the

1:13:02

people they left behind. This is for

1:13:04

example when people who claim like grandma is still with

1:13:06

us sometimes I get hints for a perfume or hair

1:13:08

or laugh and I know she is with me. This

1:13:11

is also what a lot of people may even refer to as

1:13:13

a spirit guide. Mediums with enough

1:13:15

experience can also summon these spirits and beckon them

1:13:17

to approach the veil in order to communicate. Spirits

1:13:20

who have transitioned are basically several layers removed

1:13:22

from the material plane we exist on so

1:13:24

what you describe about a veil is quite

1:13:26

fitting in that regard. It is very much

1:13:28

like looking at someone through a window and

1:13:30

this is why their presence is usually not

1:13:32

as tangible and it is not as

1:13:35

easy to communicate with them. There is however

1:13:37

spirits that are still anchored to the material

1:13:39

plane which makes sense for chilling

1:13:41

in castle. Even though they no

1:13:43

longer have a physical body they are anchored to these

1:13:45

are what you typically hear as ghosts and

1:13:47

what you have seen described in the media stuck

1:13:50

and unable to move on

1:13:52

having unfinished business ghosts are usually more

1:13:54

tangible. In a way they

1:13:56

are on this side of the window if that makes sense and

1:13:58

they are present on the same plane of existence. existence as we

1:14:00

are, but they do not have a vessel to

1:14:02

hold on to. The veil that

1:14:04

separates spirits from those of us still in a body

1:14:06

is really only applicable to those who have moved on.

1:14:09

Those who have not moved on because they have

1:14:11

something that keeps them here are anchored into

1:14:13

the physical plane they were once a part

1:14:15

of because there is something quite dense keeping

1:14:17

them around. For

1:14:19

example, I once came across the ghost of a woman

1:14:22

who died by her own hand. She was stuck due

1:14:24

to her own grief and guilt over leaving

1:14:26

her young children behind. She did not die

1:14:28

at peace and in fact her death was

1:14:30

quite traumatic. The unresolved trauma and other dense

1:14:32

emotions she held when she transitioned from this

1:14:35

world were literally an anchor that

1:14:37

kept her from being able to pierce the

1:14:39

veil and basically cross over to the other

1:14:41

side. Very

1:14:44

well thought out explanation or theory.

1:14:46

Yes, super summed up and this

1:14:49

seems to be kind of in

1:14:51

line with a lot of paranormal stories that

1:14:53

we come across especially the part where it's

1:14:55

like there's something

1:14:58

unresolved. I think that's

1:15:00

a core point if it's unresolved

1:15:02

trauma if they yeah guilty or

1:15:04

like there's something that's

1:15:06

keeping them here for some reason because

1:15:08

in their life it was unresolved. I

1:15:10

think that's like a common thing we

1:15:13

see in a lot of ghost stories.

1:15:15

Which Chillingham Castle is full of unresolved

1:15:17

death and trauma. Right. So

1:15:20

in this theory it would make sense

1:15:23

why there would be so much ghost activity. Right.

1:15:26

There's so many spirits that haven't pierced the veil,

1:15:28

haven't crossed over completely to the other side because

1:15:30

they're trapped here due to

1:15:32

all the negative energy and emotions

1:15:36

and events that transpired. So it

1:15:38

makes a lot of sense. Now on

1:15:40

the flip side maybe you're more

1:15:42

skeptical and you

1:15:44

two are a little bit more skeptical than I am

1:15:46

when it comes to the paranormal. What

1:15:49

do you think about some of

1:15:51

the scientific explanations in this particular

1:15:53

location? You think they hold some

1:15:56

prudence here? I think things it's

1:15:58

hard with like the devices. I

1:16:01

don't know the ins and outs of a lot of these

1:16:03

devices that they're using. I don't know what brand it is.

1:16:06

I think it's hard to say

1:16:08

because I don't know the ins and outs and

1:16:10

it's not like I can crack those things open

1:16:12

and take a look at what's actually operating inside

1:16:15

them. So, and

1:16:17

that's me as a skeptic. I want to see

1:16:19

the really hard details in there. I

1:16:21

want to see how these things are

1:16:24

actually operating. Or I just want someone,

1:16:26

it would be nice if just somebody

1:16:28

could just explain. Here's exactly how these

1:16:30

devices work and I just get

1:16:32

a complete. So maybe it's just that's on my

1:16:34

end. I'm maybe a little bit ignorant to these

1:16:37

devices and I need

1:16:39

to do a little more research on them. But that's where

1:16:41

I, it's hard for me

1:16:43

to believe the devices are actually

1:16:45

detecting something. Also things like, I

1:16:47

don't know, electromagnetic fields like EMF.

1:16:49

It's like there's a lot of

1:16:52

electromagnetic things happening.

1:16:55

So it's hard to say that this

1:16:58

is definitive proof one way or

1:17:00

another or temperature changes. It's like,

1:17:02

is it just a draft? Is

1:17:05

it somebody left a door open? There's

1:17:08

some waft of cold air

1:17:10

coming out from the dungeon

1:17:12

somehow. There's so many factors that

1:17:15

I'm like, I wish I could get

1:17:17

more of just a scientific brain in

1:17:19

there to really explain everything down to

1:17:21

the nitty gritty detail. Well,

1:17:23

if you think about it from that

1:17:25

perspective, a lot

1:17:28

of the locations that have extensive

1:17:30

paranormal activity are older in nature. And

1:17:33

so if you think about the construction of these

1:17:35

buildings and this was what renovated in the 80s.

1:17:38

So it's like, I would be curious to see

1:17:40

what does the wiring look like? How insulated is

1:17:42

the wiring here? Because EMF could

1:17:46

be, like you said, a range of different

1:17:48

things. It could be faulty wiring. There

1:17:50

could be something within the walls that's emitting it

1:17:52

that we can't see and so our meter is

1:17:54

going off. But there's actually a logical

1:17:57

explanation for why it's being picked up. this

1:18:00

particular place. And that's one thing that,

1:18:03

as a ghost hunter going into

1:18:05

it, another level of

1:18:08

investigation that you should be doing is also like, can

1:18:10

I get the plans? Can I see what

1:18:13

are the renovation plans? Do we know what kind of

1:18:15

wiring is used? Do we know if that wiring is

1:18:17

insulated? Do we know what's going

1:18:19

on within the walls? That's the type of

1:18:21

shit that would convince me. If someone was

1:18:23

actually doing the nitty-gritty research on a building

1:18:25

like that, I would be way more inclined

1:18:28

to it. Like a building inspector would go

1:18:30

into a building and there's tools

1:18:32

to see what's behind the walls and

1:18:34

check temperatures and figure out if

1:18:36

there's something that's emitting EMF.

1:18:38

Running your EMF reader across the wall to see

1:18:40

if it goes off would be a great place

1:18:43

to start in a paranormal investigation because then you

1:18:45

can determine is there something within the wall that's

1:18:47

actually causing the EMF meter to go off in

1:18:50

the middle of the room. Oftentimes

1:18:52

I don't see that happen. The

1:18:54

very basic steps to rule out the

1:18:57

most logical things for

1:19:00

some of this activity is never done and

1:19:02

it just goes immediately to let's talk

1:19:05

about spirits, let's talk about ghosts. That's fun

1:19:07

and I think that makes

1:19:09

for good entertainment. But if you're really trying

1:19:11

to investigate this truly

1:19:13

as a scientific researcher,

1:19:16

I think it's worth doing

1:19:19

some of the due diligence to rule out

1:19:21

the logical explanations before you jump to the

1:19:23

paranormal ones. Yeah and like you said too,

1:19:26

I think it doesn't make for great

1:19:28

media and I think that's why no one

1:19:30

wants to watch a building inspector like, alright,

1:19:32

this wall. Right. So it's like

1:19:35

it wouldn't make for a good YouTube channel, right?

1:19:37

But I would appreciate it like even if it

1:19:39

was just off screen, you didn't even have to

1:19:41

do it but you could just show me that

1:19:44

you actually did the work that you really researched

1:19:46

what was going on to this, you know the

1:19:48

history well. Right. Because I think a lot of

1:19:50

the people, no offense to them because it's fun but

1:19:53

they just go in there, they know John

1:19:55

Sage and that's it and they're like, John,

1:19:57

are you here? And then it's like John

1:19:59

and Edward. Yeah, and it's like

1:20:01

they kind of all just do the

1:20:04

minimal Surface level research

1:20:06

and and to get it

1:20:08

and it's fun I mean and they get

1:20:10

some cool content out there and I don't

1:20:13

have anything necessarily against that But just

1:20:15

as a skeptic, I think watching them

1:20:17

I'm like I want someone to dig

1:20:20

a little bit deeper into this to

1:20:22

try and convince me of something going

1:20:24

on here or like What

1:20:26

the sounds there's there's like infrasound

1:20:29

That you know low low emitting

1:20:31

sound Waves and I

1:20:33

also really question sounds in paranormal investigation,

1:20:36

especially when people are split up because

1:20:38

it's like Well, you're experiencing the

1:20:41

sound in this room But where's everybody else

1:20:43

at this very moment that this sound is

1:20:45

being heard, right? If somebody walking over here

1:20:47

and like in an old building or a

1:20:49

castle or something It's probably creeks and moans

1:20:51

and for sure, you know Bang could have

1:20:53

been somebody dropping a piece of equipment upstairs

1:20:55

But down here you're by yourself and you're

1:20:57

like, oh the Spain came out of nowhere

1:20:59

Yeah, it's like, you know, it's hard to

1:21:02

really know What's

1:21:04

going on when you're only seeing one piece of

1:21:06

it? It'd be great to see like a parallel

1:21:08

investigation with like cameras on all the investigators at

1:21:10

all time live feeds of everybody in all The

1:21:12

different rooms and I think I think some of

1:21:14

them do this out there But you know,

1:21:17

so when one sound is heard and they're hearing in another

1:21:19

sound we can verify that Oh, it

1:21:21

wasn't somebody in the room above you that drop dropped

1:21:24

a tripod or something That's the

1:21:26

sound that you're hearing. That's a good point. But

1:21:28

then there's obviously like toxic

1:21:30

hallucinations when you talk about apparitions

1:21:33

and you know people seeing visual

1:21:38

activity a lot of people, you

1:21:40

know Like oh, that

1:21:42

was a apparition, but it's also possible that

1:21:44

based on materials that were used It could

1:21:47

be carbon monoxide could be formaldehyde pesticides. I

1:21:49

mean there's Endless types of

1:21:51

materials that are toxic to the brain Maybe they

1:21:53

took one of those you tree berries and popped

1:21:55

it before they had on the castle and you

1:21:58

went on a you you leave something,

1:22:00

you know, like you never know that

1:22:02

there could be something else going on. I

1:22:04

mean, there's so many, think about all the

1:22:07

different substances and gases and things like that

1:22:09

that are invisible to the human eye. It

1:22:11

could be around you impacting your perception of

1:22:13

reality and you have no idea. Or

1:22:15

maybe for all we know, they all smoked a

1:22:18

bowl before they went in, you know, or dropped

1:22:21

some LSD before going in. And so some of

1:22:23

that is, so there's like all these, you know,

1:22:25

if you really want to do a sound investigation,

1:22:27

it's like we have to like, you got

1:22:29

to really follow the scientific method

1:22:31

or control what's our variables here and

1:22:33

document in such a way versus like

1:22:37

going in with this biased point of

1:22:39

view of like, this is an

1:22:41

extremely haunted location, the most haunted castle in

1:22:43

all of England. And having that

1:22:45

perception going into it definitely fucks with you.

1:22:48

I know that. I was just going to

1:22:50

say that. Yeah. Because I know I've

1:22:52

brought this up before, but I think the unconscious mind

1:22:54

is super powerful. But when you go into an area

1:22:56

and you're like, I know there's been a lot of

1:22:58

death. There's a lot of torture. I've heard the stories

1:23:01

and I know that other people have reported

1:23:03

on this place being extremely haunted. You're

1:23:06

now already predisposed to something

1:23:08

you'll maybe interpret as supernatural

1:23:10

just because you're unconscious, is

1:23:12

at play and you know,

1:23:15

all these factors exist there,

1:23:17

you know? And it's,

1:23:19

I don't know how you overcome that. I

1:23:21

don't know how you even go into a

1:23:23

place like Chillingham with a neutral mindset because

1:23:25

you just, you know, it's haunted,

1:23:27

right? Right. Like that's the

1:23:29

appeal of places like this. So it's,

1:23:31

it's a hard, I don't

1:23:34

know, it's a hard balance beam to

1:23:36

try and turn your mind away from

1:23:39

those things, to try and shut off

1:23:41

those preconceived notions. Right. It'd

1:23:43

be interesting to drop somebody in to Chillingham castle

1:23:45

for an overnight stay who's never heard of this

1:23:48

place before in history and see. And

1:23:51

if they come back and they're like, whoa,

1:23:53

this was the craziest night of my life. So

1:23:55

much weird shit happened to me. That

1:23:58

to me would be very. compelling right?

1:24:00

For sure. They didn't know but and

1:24:03

then you're like oh yeah dude this place is super haunted.

1:24:05

A ton of people have died

1:24:07

here and what you were

1:24:09

experiencing was spirits and ghosts and

1:24:11

you know whatever other kind of entities that

1:24:13

roamed this place last night and

1:24:15

kind of get that perspective because

1:24:17

yeah everybody's going in with the preconceived notion that

1:24:20

this is extremely haunted so I'm

1:24:22

expecting haunted things to happen. Right.

1:24:24

And I've done

1:24:27

that firsthand with the Stanley

1:24:29

Hotel and actually it backfired

1:24:31

on me majorly because nothing

1:24:33

happened. Yeah. And you know I

1:24:35

stayed in the one of

1:24:37

the haunted rooms there that people

1:24:39

have a ghost getting in bed with

1:24:42

you. Was that like the

1:24:44

Stephen King room? Yeah. Yeah. And that's

1:24:47

why I respect you because I know you're a

1:24:49

big believer but you didn't try to bullshit yourself

1:24:51

and thinking that something was happening. No I just

1:24:53

cried at the end of it. Excuse me. You

1:24:55

spent all that money and nothing happened. Yeah and

1:24:58

you know to end this episode maybe we'll throw that that little

1:25:00

clip in there. We have a

1:25:02

little clip that

1:25:04

I have in my archives from from

1:25:07

that little investigation that we did and this

1:25:09

was a few years back so don't judge

1:25:11

me but it was a

1:25:14

very sad day for me. You can clearly see

1:25:16

the disappointment that I experienced

1:25:18

in the Stanley Hotel after

1:25:20

spending all this money. I think I've

1:25:22

seen like an hour of raw footage

1:25:24

of that. It's hilarious but yeah. Josh

1:25:27

was bombed though which is I don't

1:25:29

know. It's like but I still respect

1:25:31

you for just being honest about what

1:25:33

you did and didn't experience. Where

1:25:35

are you stand on all this Daniel? I

1:25:38

mean I've know I've mentioned this probably a few times

1:25:40

at this point but if there is any place that's

1:25:42

going to be haunted it's going to be a place

1:25:44

that is older you know having

1:25:47

history I think it's important. I don't know why but

1:25:49

I can't get behind something that's like 20 years old

1:25:51

being haunted. I don't know why. I think the

1:25:53

older it is the more likelihood of

1:25:55

it being haunted but obviously

1:25:58

a place with a lot of human trash. is

1:26:00

gonna be an epicenter for spirits

1:26:04

and all these things. And you

1:26:06

guys mentioned that if someone goes back to

1:26:08

the Chillingham Castle and they have no idea

1:26:10

that it's haunted, I think they

1:26:12

would still feel weird

1:26:15

at night because obviously

1:26:17

it's ancient. Obviously

1:26:19

in old places, obviously a lot of history, so I

1:26:21

think especially in the dark, the mind would just kind

1:26:23

of wander and you'd probably sort of think about, someone

1:26:26

probably did die here. It's a 13th century castle.

1:26:29

People have probably died here even if they don't

1:26:31

know about the history of it and I think

1:26:33

they would probably still experience things. But I think

1:26:35

going into it having a healthy amount of

1:26:38

skepticism is gonna be the best way to do it.

1:26:41

Like you did with the

1:26:43

Stanley Hotel, you ended with a healthy

1:26:45

amount of skepticism. You are a believer but

1:26:47

you did, you realized what's real, what's

1:26:49

not. And I think that's what's gonna

1:26:52

eventually convince me to believe is

1:26:54

I need someone who is a skeptic

1:26:57

to kind of prove it. That makes me think

1:26:59

that. Yeah, versus just kind

1:27:01

of going in like immediately

1:27:04

right off the bat like, oh shit,

1:27:06

you hear that? You see that? And

1:27:09

it's fun. And maybe, again, maybe

1:27:12

it did happen, maybe everything that's happening

1:27:14

in these YouTube videos and

1:27:17

ghost hunting episodes on TV

1:27:19

are legit. I mean, I don't know for

1:27:21

sure, I wasn't there. But in their defense,

1:27:23

it's not like, I don't think a lot

1:27:25

of these channels are trying to convince a

1:27:28

non-believer into believing. So they're just, I mean,

1:27:30

it's mostly the people that wanna watch that

1:27:32

stuff kind of already are believing

1:27:34

ghosts, right? Believe in spirits like that. So

1:27:37

it's no fault of their own. If you

1:27:39

take it as a scientific experiment on whether

1:27:41

or not you're trying to prove ghosts are

1:27:43

real, science, nine times out of 10, the

1:27:45

process isn't super exciting. Yeah, very boring. It's

1:27:48

a lot of documentation, it's very boring. Go

1:27:50

watch the history channel if you, or like

1:27:52

discovery channel if you want like a bunch

1:27:54

of scientists roaming around. It

1:27:57

doesn't make good entertainment. So you're right, I mean, all these shows.

1:28:00

for the believers and it's kind of

1:28:02

entertain them. It's not to convince non-believers.

1:28:04

I would be down for

1:28:07

a very boring scientific based

1:28:10

experiment about it. I would watch it. Maybe

1:28:13

there's an untapped market, a

1:28:15

very boring scientific paranormal hunt.

1:28:17

That's what I'm going

1:28:19

to do. I'll just read poetry half the time. We'll

1:28:24

read poems to the spirits and see what

1:28:26

happens and conduct our

1:28:29

scientific method. Instead

1:28:31

of the normal black get up

1:28:33

wall, we were in white lab coats. But

1:28:39

yeah, we want to know your thoughts on Chilium Castle.

1:28:41

Obviously, what do you think? Is

1:28:44

it haunted? Do you

1:28:46

believe some of the YouTube

1:28:49

videos and what they experience? I'd love to know

1:28:51

your thoughts. Shout out to

1:28:53

all those guys that we featured in

1:28:55

the episode today. Big fans, that's

1:28:58

why we included them. I think what

1:29:00

they're doing is really cool. Honestly,

1:29:03

it's the dream. That's like the dream of a

1:29:05

job would be to travel around and do overnight

1:29:07

stays. Oh, I'm so jealous. I'm like, God, they

1:29:09

seem to be having so much fun too. Yeah,

1:29:11

it seems like a blast. But

1:29:14

yeah, well, we're going to leave

1:29:16

this episode with a very sad

1:29:19

clip of me realizing I'm not

1:29:21

going to experience anything paranormal at

1:29:23

the infamous Stanley Hotel. But until

1:29:27

next time, lights out, everybody.

1:29:30

Well, maybe you should go home tonight. How

1:29:44

does it feel? It can either

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1:29:49

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