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Are you ready for this? Jean

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Merriman a one hand effect. Boom

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boom boom, out go the light. This

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is Lights Out with Sean

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Merriman. What's up?

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Guys, were back again with another Lights out

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podcast with me Seawan Merriman. UM

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got one of my favorite guys. Used to watch and

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play against UH in the National Football

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League. I tell it, UH two

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times Super Bowl chain with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Also played for one of my favorite coaches and

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Bill Kaward. Um. I always

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wanted to play for Bill, by the way. And we're

0:37

just gonna get into man, a lot of a lot of different things.

0:39

One thing that I saw to come up as recently

0:41

is he is in the combat sports. This

0:44

was a cool thing for me to see. I know he's been

0:46

training a little bit. Um. He got his new

0:48

cigar line dropping out to I know, I let him

0:50

talk a little bit about that. But

0:52

most importantly, man, he he played

0:55

UH in the

0:57

time of football where it

1:00

was different. Right, you can go out

1:02

and have these big hits and not

1:04

as many penalties and flags. And you

1:07

know, we we played in that era of football. And also

1:09

we'll get into a little bit about the seventeen game

1:12

regular season schedule now and and how that affects

1:14

with everybody. So I tell her,

1:18

what's up? Am I do? Man? Chilling? How

1:20

you doing? I'm good man? What's up with you?

1:24

Yeah? Yeah? Now you know we're working, man, we're working.

1:26

Um are we trying to get that get my mm

1:28

A league back up and going right now too? You

1:30

know, because I trained a couple still train a

1:32

couple of days with with a lot of the m

1:35

m A guys from my league and these

1:37

cats out here. So you uh you

1:40

you you're gonna do an exciting you just trained? No,

1:43

you know, so I got my league. We're on Fox

1:45

Sports right now. So Fox Sports picked us

1:47

up like not not this past pay but

1:49

the May before that, and then we got we've been shut

1:51

down since since the pandemic. Okay,

1:55

you know what I'm saying. Hey, I remember you getting

1:57

into a couple of couple of you know, a

1:59

little calm as though I

2:01

remember you being about it to this to this

2:03

day. So I took on boxing, so I

2:05

actually, uh actually

2:07

be spawn. So have

2:10

you have you thought about like really really

2:12

doing it though you're just kind of doing it to stay in shape.

2:14

I'll do it to stay in shape. But I actually like, I

2:18

feel like I can actually fight. This is like

2:20

now I know how to fight. So at first

2:22

I thought, at first, you know, at

2:24

first I just like to fight. But now I'm like, Okay,

2:27

I really know how to fight. So I really I really be spawn.

2:30

So I'll be going to Houston a lot to

2:32

go spawn my home with my home. But reisprogriate,

2:35

he's a well to wait. Um yeah,

2:37

yeah, so that's my daughter from New Orleans. But

2:39

yeah, as far as like spawn, i'd be sporing, I'll

2:42

be spawn and that

2:44

that boxing or mm A, man, it's

2:47

your mind gotta be all the way different, bro, all

2:50

the way different, all the way. And I

2:52

tell so many cats about this. Right,

2:55

so we already come from a background where

2:57

we're strong, we're fast, we explosive

2:59

that of it. So we

3:01

were already walking into the ring or the cage,

3:03

were already coordinated, right, so we're not

3:05

going to step it over our left feed up. We gotta

3:08

learn how to pivot and do all the something that we already

3:10

got. That it's really learning the fact

3:12

of sitting on your punch or turning over on your

3:14

punch, right stepping into your jab

3:17

and just learning, learning the craft.

3:20

So I'm interested. Man, how was that

3:22

what made you kind of transitioning and trying

3:24

not to sport. I'm always been a fan of

3:26

it. I wish I would have did it. I wish I would have trained

3:29

more in the off season because

3:32

I mean, you know, Sean like training

3:35

training for a comeback sport is. We

3:39

say football is mental, but this, this, this, this

3:41

is all the way mental like it is is.

3:44

Then I really gotta do trying

3:46

to knock me out. You know what I'm saying. There

3:49

is no helmet, there is no path there, there

3:51

there is nothing like this is really

3:53

a comeback sport. So I

3:55

said, man, let me try and let me try to stay in shape.

3:58

So I did it a few times. I don't know if you ever heard

4:00

of the Pittsburgh kid of boxer

4:03

Paul's batter four so

4:06

back in the day, coming out of coming out of

4:08

Pittsburg, like he was a real deal before

4:10

he got into some trouble. He was real deal, like

4:12

he spoiled Mayweather, zab Judith,

4:15

like he was that guy. I

4:17

said, man, let me, let me, let me just try boxing,

4:20

try boxing, because I wanted

4:22

to get in a different kind of shape. And

4:25

I was like, man, like, football

4:27

shaping and fighting shape is two different

4:29

shapes. Like I can go into

4:32

a football game knowing I'm in boxing

4:34

shape anything anything.

4:37

So I started sporing, like two

4:39

thousand and five, that's when I started

4:42

sporing, but I ain't really get into it

4:44

to like two thousand and fourteen.

4:47

But once I got into it, I

4:50

was all the way in it when I when I retired,

4:52

I was all the way into boxing. So you

4:55

know, it's it's different, bro, Like

4:58

people can say what it won't say it

5:01

m m A and comeback fighting and boxing

5:04

it's not. It's not just how we say

5:06

football ain't built for everybody. You

5:09

can you can step that up about three more notches

5:12

between M M A and in boxing, it's

5:15

not for everybody, bro. As you

5:17

you gotta love punching somebody in the face. You

5:19

gotta love giving pain

5:21

and getting pain back on you. You You gott you gotta

5:23

love it because if you don't love it, you're gonna you're

5:26

gonna get your's knocked out. So that's

5:29

that's what I love about it. Like pain was never an

5:31

issue for me. I just had learned the

5:34

art of boxing. You

5:36

know, the breathing, the

5:39

the the taking the hits

5:42

and in the face and the

5:44

building up the calysis in

5:47

a body. Like you know, you just

5:49

gotta get used in it and absorb

5:51

pain. You gotta have a poker face when it

5:53

hurts. But you can't show you opponent

5:55

that it hurts. You know what I'm saying, Like it's it's

5:58

it's it's a little bit different, you know. You

6:01

know, if you know, if you're start the football and

6:03

you get the wind knocked out of your more they go to

6:05

a commercial break, m m

6:07

m may a bunch you man, you gotta

6:09

move around the ring and show and show your opponent,

6:12

which you're gonna see it anyway, but

6:14

show them it really don't hurt. Like the mindset

6:16

all the way different, different when it comes

6:18

to it. Bro and I say this all time

6:20

because we're so used to in football and it's

6:22

and it's not a bad thing, it's just what we're used to doing

6:25

that we're so like bottled up with energy and

6:27

spurts of energy her and using

6:29

me in strength. But in boxing and m

6:31

m ay, that can hurt you, right because

6:34

you use all your strength and you go through a big

6:36

flur and you throw all your jabs, or you go

6:38

to take somebody down it and they get out

6:40

of it, or they survive it and then you gassed.

6:43

Right, So that was like for me one

6:45

of the because I'm a strong dude, you know, in the

6:47

gym, in the weight room, but that don't matter.

6:50

Right you get in there, it don't matter and you

6:52

see somebody that is half your

6:54

side or whatever. But they learn how to turn

6:56

on their punches or they learn how to turn

6:58

on their kicks, and they learn how to open

7:00

their hips up and do certain things. And now you sitting

7:02

around like how how they

7:04

do that? It's the art

7:06

broke, And you

7:09

know, fight for three minutes, it's

7:12

a long time. Fight for

7:14

three minutes for fifteen rounds. Like

7:17

I can fight for fifteen rounds

7:19

for three minutes now now

7:22

because I've learned the art and how to conserve

7:26

my energy. You know what I'm saying. Like

7:29

back in the day, it's like what you said,

7:31

like right right, right right, it

7:33

was more man, let me, let me let all this test

7:35

starts to grow out a sound. But

7:38

the size didn't matter, speed didn't

7:40

matter. And you know, I'm a huge

7:43

Bruce Lee fan and one

7:45

of his favorite sayings worldwide is be

7:47

like water, you know what I'm saying.

7:50

So like water, you know, yeah,

7:54

you gotta adapt to whatever whatever

7:56

you're surrounding is. You gotta adapt that. Just

7:58

like water. You can put water in think it's

8:00

gonna form itself up, whatever the shape

8:03

is. And that's what you gotta be when

8:05

it comes to come back fight, you

8:07

know what I'm saying. So that's that's how

8:09

I kind of portrayed it. So that's that's what I put

8:11

into my repertoire. But

8:14

yeah, bro, this's it's it's it's

8:17

difficult man, and and it's not. It's

8:19

not for everybody,

8:22

it's not. So do you do you ever see yourself

8:24

either one day taking up because

8:26

I had a p on. I had Adrian a like

8:29

I think about a month ago. He said, when

8:31

he's done, man, he definitely wanna if

8:33

not a charity boxing match, you definitely want to do

8:35

some amateur stuff whatever, because he was boxing too.

8:37

Do you ever see yourself possibly? Yeah, I want

8:39

to do I want to do one professional

8:41

fight. I want to do I want

8:43

to do one. And this dude don't

8:45

really even know it, but I've been watching him for a

8:47

minute a minute, I don't know if you

8:50

heard of you heard of Kendall gild the basketball

8:52

player. I think

8:54

he's three and no in pressional fighting and people

8:56

don't need people don't even know it, you know what I'm saying.

8:59

Like, but he's one of the athletes

9:01

that you know, turned over into a comback

9:04

fighting and wind up being successful at it. So

9:06

yeah, it's a few, it's it's a few guys, and

9:09

and not a matter of fact, I

9:12

saw be Marshall, you

9:14

know, I saw him train, and

9:16

I'm willing to spark. I'm willing to spark anybody.

9:19

You know what I'm saying that that so you so you're saying

9:22

right now, Beat Marshall wanted to get in the ring. You're

9:24

with it? Oh yeah

9:29

like that that that that don't that don't that

9:32

don't matter. I want you your

9:35

mind set gotta be different. Bro. Hitting

9:37

the bag is cool, yeah,

9:40

but actually getting in the ring is this.

9:43

And you know this, like you've seen a lot

9:45

of practice players like, oh my gosh,

9:48

this two hits practice all Stars, Pro

9:51

Bowl practice players. But then

9:53

when you see him getting the game, it's like, damn,

9:57

man, what happened? You know what I'm saying,

9:59

No, not to it, right, you

10:01

know, So the same thing in

10:03

in and

10:06

in boxing or comeback sports, like damn,

10:09

but up was hitting the bag something decent.

10:12

But okay, let's put him in the ring. Put

10:15

him in the ring. No show

10:17

nothing. It's like, oh lor merchant

10:20

man, let's bro, bro stick to the bang, right,

10:24

Yeah, that's all I mean with anybody, because because if you

10:27

know the bag the bag, and half you feeling, you

10:29

know, feeling all like you can

10:31

box, you can fight. You ask me, oh yeah, yeah box

10:33

and said listen, man, that's that's that's a whole different

10:35

that's a whole different ball. That's for show stuff. Man. You would

10:38

to go in and you know, get stay in shape or something, but

10:40

that's not really fighting. That bagging him

10:42

back? Sure you know

10:44

what? Right? Like that that that bag? Ain't

10:46

that bag? That bagging And

10:49

then when you find somebody bore the same mindset

10:51

as you, was like and the mindset

10:53

gotta be like to the death of this, you

10:57

know. That's how the mindset is a back

11:00

sports to the to the death. But

11:03

is and you you gotta think you

11:05

gotta train like, ain't no referees.

11:08

So that's our train. Ain't no referees. About

11:11

to stop this. I don't want to run.

11:13

You know what I'm saying. Once you once you get a mud say

11:15

like, ain't no referees man,

11:18

it's it's it's to the depth

11:20

show. So that's that's what that's where I'm met with.

11:22

So I said, I said, I'm gonna

11:24

wait till my son here in the eighth grade. So I'm gonna wait

11:27

until you get to high school and get

11:29

established, and then yeah I go,

11:32

I go one one professional. But yeah, far

11:34

as like spun man, I getting the ring

11:36

with anybody. I'm gonna stat that up too. Is I

11:38

know, to be marsh looking for work. But hey,

11:41

so one thing I want to ask you though too,

11:43

because y'all the teams y'all had back

11:45

when you were playing, y'all had some dogs.

11:48

Man. I'm like, and

11:50

I know we all and I hate seeming like the old

11:53

guy that's like, oh yeah, the league saw me. Every

11:55

everybody knows the league is different, right, They change

11:57

the rules, you know, no helmet, you know, we

12:00

get that part of it. But I

12:02

think the different type of

12:05

cats. I mean, y'are Joey you know, uh,

12:07

Joey Porter and all. You know, Casey hamp y'all

12:10

had some like some real bona fide

12:13

dogs. Man, and tell

12:16

me, tell me about that. Tell me about them teams you played

12:18

on, man, And do you still keep in contact with some

12:20

of them? Guys? I got two, I got two

12:23

Group Texas. We got the old five Super

12:25

Bowl, and we got the two

12:27

thousand nine, two thousand and eight

12:29

Super Bowl. And it's around

12:32

it's around twenty guys for group.

12:34

Text on my phone always going dead because

12:36

we're always texting each other, right, um,

12:39

and our kids called you know each

12:42

other uncles. But

12:44

for me, it was they

12:47

brainwashed me. Like my linebackers and you

12:49

play linebackers. My linebackers

12:51

brainwashed me. My linebackers felt at

12:54

one point in time, knocking

12:57

somebody else was better than catching the interception at

13:00

the cornerback position. Like,

13:03

man, we just need you to come but on

13:05

this rush support, I need you

13:07

to take the soul of another grown man like

13:10

that was the model in the locker room. Take

13:12

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13:15

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13:29

keep chopping that tree down, keep hitting

13:31

hit him as I don't care what the size is,

13:33

hit him as hard as you can, as long as you can. For

13:35

the whole folk quarters, he gonna volte.

13:38

So and that was you know, James

13:40

Harrison and and

13:43

Lamar Woodley and George Porter and

13:45

Clark Hagen Hagan's and James

13:48

and Larry Foot and Lawrence

13:50

Simmons and vice.

13:53

When you do Bryan

13:56

shape them, get them the youngsters. Man,

13:59

if you play line back and for the Pittsburgh still

14:01

as you your whole your whole mindset

14:03

is run through a brick wall. And I think twice about

14:05

it, like we we love

14:08

coming to the sideline and saying I got a body,

14:12

like damn, bro you you knocked him out, Like yeah,

14:14

put a put a body, put a body on

14:16

my resume. Yeah

14:18

I got one like that. That was the whole thing in Pitts

14:22

put a body on the resume. So

14:25

and that's just that that that kind of brainwatched secondary.

14:27

So we we felt the same way. But it started with Lynebacks

14:30

like man, put a body on the resume. And

14:34

to this day, you know, like you say,

14:36

the rules have changed, so you gotta ad just you

14:39

gottad just to the rule change, and I was, I was,

14:41

I was part of that rule curving

14:44

a little bit, you know, to not being

14:46

as aggressive, um

14:48

protecting the players. But

14:51

now we're going to seventeen games. I'm like,

14:53

oh, we're really protecting the players,

14:55

Like y'all saying I'm taking a preseason

14:58

game out, but y'all doing seventeen. And

15:01

I just saw the TV, the TV deal

15:03

you know, for a hundred something billion dollars, you

15:06

know what I'm saying that, So we really and in three more years

15:08

at the rate and go up, y'all gonna restructure

15:10

that TV deal to make eight teams. So y'all

15:13

gonna say two prevas, two preseason

15:15

games and you know, eight team

15:17

games. So you're really protecting the play

15:19

That's That's That's how I look

15:21

at from a from a player standpoint,

15:23

from a business standpoint as

15:26

our owner, I get it. But you

15:29

know how it is like they changed

15:31

the rules so they're able to

15:33

do that now. Back in the day, how

15:35

we played showing that that's what So

15:38

that that's my whole thing, right, and

15:40

I know the game is different and they don't have you

15:42

know, back to back to back two of days and lining

15:45

up in Oklahoma drills. And I'm sure Bill Coward

15:48

had you know, had you guys at the time doing doing

15:50

that. I mean he was, you know, and he had

15:52

in him and marget Shot and haw More friends. They had

15:54

kind of the same type of mentality.

15:57

You couldn't the way we played the game back then,

16:00

reckless with our bodies. You can't

16:02

move it to a seventeen game season

16:05

because no, guys that you talk about

16:08

head stuff, you know, CT and traumas

16:10

and tears and pools and everything

16:12

else. Joints, guys have

16:14

been completely done. Killer head, a body and

16:16

father that was That was a whole defense

16:19

on on the Pittsburgh Killer head

16:22

and a body and father, you know, and people

16:24

people talk about c t s. I'm

16:27

like, man, I really knew how to play football when I

16:29

got to the league. Y'all gotta understand, we've been playing

16:31

football since it was small. So picture

16:33

all the coaches who didn't know any

16:36

better, who was growing up as youngsters,

16:38

like is the

16:40

CT just caught up with you when you was in a

16:42

lady like you get to the league

16:45

and you finally understand how to tackle.

16:48

You know what I'm saying. Like, and that's why I'll

16:50

be telling people like man, they'd

16:52

be like, how you feel about the ct s in the brain?

16:54

I said, all this happened move was young. This

16:57

ain't really happened when we got to lead. This

17:00

just this just was a build up

17:02

while I was playing. If you was playing part one

17:04

and you then you went to middle school,

17:07

then with the high school so pitched

17:09

on the coaches. School really just didn't know no better.

17:11

They had their old school man talented. You

17:13

finally get to the league, you finally learned how to tackle.

17:16

Really you know what I'm saying,

17:18

But brain wise, it's

17:21

too late. And then that's how we we we that's

17:23

how we learned correct, right you you know,

17:25

like you said, we learned by going out

17:27

catching the body. You catch the guy coming across the

17:29

middle or doing that. And I got one right.

17:31

And normally if you're knocking somebody out,

17:34

you're ninety five percent of the time you're using

17:36

your head. So for me, like when I

17:38

got to the league, that

17:40

I was already it will see, man, if that's

17:43

how I played the game, and nothing's gonna change.

17:45

So I'm glad that I was out at the at

17:48

the right time because I would have been playing for free,

17:50

you know, like they the game checks with the right

17:52

from me every game all

17:55

day. Like how we used to play Man,

17:57

we probably would have played for games or

17:59

of the same. Yeah, we probably would have played

18:02

the max six maybe eight.

18:05

But how we played then, when I get it, man,

18:07

my son played and he's a he's

18:10

probably one of the best tacklers. I

18:12

haven't seen fourteen. How does how did?

18:15

Yeah, So it's it's I get

18:18

it, and I respect that you gotta adjust, you

18:20

know, to to your surround is

18:22

in the down. So I get that part. But how

18:25

we played, bro, like you said, we would have

18:27

been playing free, And our

18:29

motto was, you know, either take

18:31

the soul out of grown man a killer head and body

18:33

the funck yep, does your son

18:36

take on him and tap? My son Timmy played he played

18:38

football, but he played quarterback and and like

18:40

safety. He's like he's not the same

18:42

mentality as me, as you know, he's more like like

18:45

Gronk or something like that. He has that mentality.

18:47

He didn't have my mentality. Your son have

18:50

your mentality at all if you see that in him. Yeah,

18:52

my son is one. He's a superior athlete.

18:54

So he's way more athletic than I ever was

18:57

at the age of fourteen. Yeah too. He

19:00

wants to create his own legacy, so

19:03

and he wanted so he plays safety

19:06

receiver. But you know, down

19:08

here in Florida, these kids

19:10

feel like there was born and play football. That

19:13

that that that that's that's if you look

19:15

at the NFL roster and looking at the top guys

19:17

coming from one state or county, either

19:20

Dade County, Broward County, or Hollywood,

19:23

Florida like them them them guys,

19:25

them guys coming from around here. And

19:28

that's all myself, me playing around. So he

19:30

he has to understand fast, like I gotta

19:33

be a dog a sound right. So he's very

19:36

aggressive on defense.

19:38

He's probably even more aggressive going

19:41

to get the ball on on on

19:44

offense. So that's that's what I

19:46

love about this Florida mentality around

19:49

here. So we I'm from the Orders and we talked about

19:51

all the time, like between the Orleans

19:53

and Miami guys, we feel like we're the same kind of people,

19:56

you know. So I just instilled

19:59

that in myself. Had to grow up in the locker

20:01

room. So you know, his uncle's told

20:04

him, you know how his mentality should

20:06

it be, and some guys take

20:08

a liking to it and some kids don't. I'm

20:11

just glad my son took a liking to it, you know

20:13

what I'm saying. So I'm just very

20:15

fortunate, you know, for if

20:18

for this generation. And I

20:20

think you would agree, it's more of the work. Like

20:22

even though my son got it all, he don't feel

20:25

entightened. So he always feels like he wanted to work

20:27

harder than any other kid, you

20:29

know. And I said, Bro, that's gonna take you. I said,

20:31

yes, sir, Yes, ma'am. And working

20:33

harder than anybody else gonna take you a long

20:36

way. And like, you know, so

20:39

that's that's that's what he had with it. Man, I tell him

20:41

all the time. Man, God dropped me an angel when

20:43

it came to you, because you just make me and a parent easy.

20:46

And I'm a proud for that. When the couch down talking

20:48

about my son, No, you got to man,

20:50

and and and I don't know what your situation was,

20:52

but my dad wasn't, you know, really around

20:54

with me growing up. So now that you

20:57

know, I'm around my my son, he plays ball,

20:59

you know. And yeah, I talked to him about you

21:02

know, the concussions. I talked to him about the right with the

21:04

play. But he has such mentality, man,

21:06

that that DNA is a different animal

21:09

like that. When when I got that DNA, it's like it's

21:11

nothing you can do. I sometimes I go

21:13

and I closed the door. I remember he was six seven years

21:15

old. I see my son that don't push you out and sit up

21:18

with his door closed, you know what I mean? Like that, that

21:20

type of thing is already instilled in them. So

21:23

what else you got going on? I know you got the cigar?

21:26

Uh joined this that's happening. I

21:29

just I just I'm recently to Cigard, to the cigar

21:31

world. I was when I see you was at it, and I said, okay,

21:33

all right, well what's what you got going on? I'm

21:35

gonna sending. I'm gonna saying. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna get you this

21:38

in a few to you. So it's the uh, it's

21:40

the one of the comes to go. So it's a it's

21:42

a sematra cigar. Um.

21:44

It's it's a it's a medium tabowl

21:47

comes to go, you know. Um. So

21:50

they the tobacco come from Lancaster,

21:53

p A, Connecticut and his wrap and Nick rock,

21:56

but m yeah, and I and I

21:58

wanted that cigard to my pallet and

22:00

my taste because over let's

22:03

say, over ten years, I had acquired a certain

22:05

kind of taste for a cigar like it. So

22:07

I think it too like a year and a half to do, and

22:09

I took my time with it because I wanted to quality

22:12

out my you know, product and quantity.

22:15

So and right now he's doing real good.

22:17

So yeah, the wonderful kinds cigars you

22:19

can you can buy me at at Howard

22:22

G. Cigars. But I'll let you and

22:25

I'll make you get a future. What's the

22:27

what's my man? What what's the what's

22:29

the website? Can they get them off? They

22:32

go to Instagram? So it's at Howard

22:35

G Cigars, you

22:38

know. Okay, So yeah, man,

22:40

there's cigars gars doing real more

22:42

than I just go, hey, what what do you What

22:45

are you drinking with? Though? What do you pay? Like? What what's

22:47

the favorite? Because I just got put on with the I'm

22:49

not a whiskey person, but when I

22:52

drink when I had a cigar sometime now, I'll

22:54

do the whiskey, right, So what's

22:56

what's nice to the pair with the tequila? Whiskey

22:58

dark. If you go to Killer, if

23:00

you go te quila, like then in Yahoo the

23:03

sin coro right, so

23:05

give me in Yahoe c and carom

23:07

on the rocks, a splash of Solda water

23:10

and two lines. Now if you go with the

23:13

red wine drinking with the Austin Hope

23:16

out of past the Robles, California, you

23:19

know, um, if you if

23:21

you want to go with the

23:23

champagne. Uh, they

23:26

got the Crew champagne, and the Crew

23:28

gets not too expensive for a lot of people, so

23:30

they get if it's on a hot day,

23:33

you want to pour with some champagne, go Crew with

23:36

the champagne. But yeah,

23:38

man, I just mix it like depending on how I

23:40

feel like, I just I just mix it up whatever.

23:42

But I'm coming out with a light of cigar

23:45

because i want people to smoke with a coffee and

23:47

the lights of ciguards with the leaf. So I'm

23:49

gonna get a lot of leaf, which probably

23:52

gonna come from Connecticut the route.

23:54

So yeah, I'm all the way into

23:56

it, bro Um, all the way into these of guards.

23:59

I'm dude, I'm I am now. But this is

24:01

up to a couple of years ago. I've really got

24:03

into it. I would smoke the guard here and there.

24:06

But I didn't get what you just said. I didn't

24:08

get and understand the whole pilot part

24:10

of it, you know, pairing and all

24:13

that stuff. And and now, man, it's kind

24:15

of a once a week and once every few weeks.

24:17

Man, I'll just sit back and I'll just

24:19

do that. Yeah, I smoking. A matter

24:21

of fact, when Julia Corbany told me, mar come on,

24:23

I was smoking a cigar outside. That's

24:28

that's I smoke. I smoked egg cigar

24:31

a day. You know. When I'm really

24:33

on it, Um, I might, I might

24:35

blow two or three a day. That's

24:39

why I've been doing it for like ten years though, um

24:41

heavy recreational. I've probably been doing

24:44

it for like fifteen. But the last

24:46

time I've been really into my cigars. Yeah,

24:48

now me too. Hey, my dude, man,

24:50

I appreciate you coming on. Man, I know you got

24:53

they're going and I know Julia she hooked us up.

24:55

So man, good looking out. But I'm gonna stay in touch.

24:57

I'm gonna get your information once we get off, and

25:00

then, um, you know, probably I'm

25:02

out there in Florida. Sometimes I don't know what you said. You in Hollywood

25:05

were part of Florida. You know, I'm actually I'm

25:07

actually the landing. Okay,

25:09

I was just I was just out there three but three

25:11

months ago. Um doing some stuff with the w W. So

25:15

I'll be out there too when I do that. Man, that's that's definitely

25:17

getting working for sure. Yeah, well we're

25:19

exchanging forward and just let me know when you're my

25:21

way and I'll let you know when I'm your way done.

25:24

Deal, You got it all right? Cool? Thanks

25:28

guys for tuning into another lights Out

25:31

podcast and me Sean Maraman and that was

25:33

dope for me for a few different reasons.

25:35

Um, you know, Ikes was

25:38

a hell of a player, but he has

25:40

a lot going on with the scar line and he's

25:42

in that world. I'm just newly into,

25:45

uh the cigar world where I just picked up

25:48

maybe a couple of years ago over Raymond was uh

25:50

got me, got me a few cigars from years

25:52

ago and now on now on hook. So that

25:55

was a great conversation when I tell I appreciate me coming

25:57

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