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Welcome to Limitless Spirit , a

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weekly podcast with host Helen

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Todd , where she interviews guests

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about pursuing spiritual growth , discovering

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life's purpose through serving others and

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developing a deeper faith in

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Christ .

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Thank you for joining this episode of

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the Limitless Spirit . I'm your host

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, helen Todd . I have a

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very special guest in the studio today

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. Her story reminds me of

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a plot of a Hollywood thriller

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. Attorney Virginia Perdon

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captured her incredible testimony

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in her book Saving my Assassin

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, and I felt this interview

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will be a tremendous blessing to you

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in a week before we celebrate the

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wonderful miracle of Christ's

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resurrection . If you're going

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through a trial that is bigger than you

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, or perhaps you're questioning whether

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you're worthy of the call that God has

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on your life , this interview contains

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wonderful glimpses of

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this great and loving God

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working on behalf of those who

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put their trust in Him . Virginia

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, welcome to the Limitless Spirit podcast

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. How are you today ?

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I am doing fine . Thank you so very much

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, Helen , for having me on your podcast

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.

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Well , this is interesting how this interview

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came about . So a couple of months

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ago , a good friend of mine who

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lives in the state of Georgia sent

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me your book as a gift and

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with a note Helen , you just absolutely

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must read this book and

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I think he , knowing

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that I grew

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up in the Soviet Union myself

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and I can somewhat relate to

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the situation where you grew

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up , he thought it would be very interesting

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for me . And he was absolutely right . And

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I was so fascinated and

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then I thought my goodness

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, I have to have this brave

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woman on my podcast

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. So thank you for agreeing

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to do this interview . I know you're very

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busy , but I think our

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listeners will definitely benefit

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from hearing from you .

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So thank you so very much . I appreciate

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the fact that you read my book . You're referring

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to my memoir Saving my

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Assassin . It was published by

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Tyndale House Publisher and

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I hope that your audience

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will go and buy

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the book and read . You can find the book

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at virginiaprodanbookscom

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slash product , slash book . And

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, like Helen said , I know

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this book is going

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to change your life because

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it will encourage you to

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trust God even more in your

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life .

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I have no doubt , because it

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almost sounds like it

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belongs in Hollywood

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. I'm sure maybe someday someone

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will make a movie out of this , but

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you know , for people

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our interview is not a video

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interview . For people who

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don't encounter you

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personally in life , they

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need to know , in light of the story

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, that you're just five feet tall , you're

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a petite lady and

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yet , you know

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, your story makes me think of David short

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stature , and yet God used

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him to first

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confront Goliath as the

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launch of his career as a king

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, and so I

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feel like you're the female version

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of David , as

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we find out later in the

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conversation .

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You're right about this , because one

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of the things and how I encourage people

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is you

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write about this , because one of the things and how I encourage people is it's

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easier for them to be encouraged when they see me on the five feet tall , because I explain

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to them that God can use each one of us . Yes , it's a story of David and Goliath

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, but for every Goliath in our lives , in our circumstances

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, god created David and

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I was a David in

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my life , in the life of

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you know , people in Romania

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and here in the United States confronting

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Goliath like

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a dictator , or here

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in America , you

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know , confronting Goliath

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we have to confront every single

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day and that's the story

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. Yes , you will find out that

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in your situation and

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reading this book Saving

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Masses , and you realize that it's nothing

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about me . If you meet me

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, yes , indeed , you will see that I am

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under five feet tall , but everything

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is about the

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huge God that is

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in me and can be in you too

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and can use you for his glory

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.

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This is so true . So let's

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give our listeners a little snapshot

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of what was life

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like in Romania under

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Ceausescu's regime .

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Well , dictator Ceausescu was

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cruel , a very manipulative

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dictator who lied

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to everyone , especially

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to the Western civilization . I

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was the one that God used

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me for his glory

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to expose the dictator . But

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the story starts a long time

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ago , when I was maybe

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six years old and I

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heard my parents being

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politically correct outside and

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it said that now I don't

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have to tell Americans what being

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politically correct means . They

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all know . And they

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were politically correct in giving

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up the rights that the government

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asked them to give up . But

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I also noticed that inside

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of home they were whispering

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how horrible the government was and

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how the government will take more

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rights tomorrow from them . And

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as a young kid I was terrified

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. I realized that the government

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can do everything that

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they want , anything that they want with

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me . My parents are

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too fearful to protect me . I said

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I don't belong to anyone

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. But in the same time that

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was the insecurity that

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I developed . But in the same time

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, on the other hand , I noticed that

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a fire started to burn in me

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to find out why the

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adults are fearful and

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how to speak up

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for the truth and stand up for

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the truth . There was something at

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that time , maybe as a little kid

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, I thought that was my desire

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, but later on I found out there

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was a God desire that was

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in my heart , and God

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puts those desires in each

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one of us . If you

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stop and look around and you

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say to yourself , oh , this is

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not right , this is not supposed to

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be that way . Well , pay attention

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. That might be your job , that might

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be something that God put on your heart .

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So it's interesting , then , that you

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chose the career in

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law in your search for

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truth . In your search for truth , were you naive

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? Did you think that you really

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would be able to find truth

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practicing law in a dictatorship

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?

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Yes , because I had lawyers in my family and we had similar union and I noticed that they

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knew the truth , because people ask questions and they have the answer

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, but they were not courageous to speak

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up outside of the home , just

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whispering . So that's

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what I thought and I

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want your audience

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to read the book Saving

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my Assassin , my memoir , because

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it will tell them not

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only my journey but also

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it will tell them under socialists

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, that you do not

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choose your profession

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. At that time I did not know . I

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did not know that the government , in order

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for me to be allowed to go to

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law school , will look in

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my file that they have

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for me and will decide

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if I will be allowed or not

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. And I will share with you just three

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questions they were looking for . They were

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looking to see if my parents organized

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a revolt against the government

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, if my parents were reported

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by their own children that

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my parents did or

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said something bad about the

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government in the house , or

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if my parents were Christians . So

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because I was

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clear those questions

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, they allowed me to go to

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law school and they were very happy that

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I was not a Christian , because Christians

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were not allowed to be lawyers in

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socialist and not only

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in Romania but everywhere . So

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for that reason , but it was God's

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way for me to allow me

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to go to law school to learn

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law and , you know , to

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protect Christians and human rights cases

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.

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So what was your view

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of God as you were growing

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up ?

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Well , I didn't know anything about God

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. I didn't know anything about

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Jesus Christ or anything . In fact

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, after I graduated from

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law school and when you graduate

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from law school in a socialist

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country , you don't decide where you

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go and work , the government decides

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don't decide where you go and work , the government decides . So

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I will let your readers to read about

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that because I believe it's important . But

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after I graduated from law school , I started

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to practice law where the government sent me and for maybe a year

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and a half or two years , I was very hopeful , going to

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every day to the courthouse

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, thinking that I will find

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the truth and I will speak up

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for the truth . And one day I was so

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discouraged I came

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to my law office ready to give

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up , but God had other plans

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, as I was sharing with

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my assistant that I can find the

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truth and I think I will give

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up . I don't want to be a lawyer

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anymore . She gave me two files

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and told me that a

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client is in my office and

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wants to talk with me , and

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I went inside of my office

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and the client was there . Indeed , I

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have been working with him for more than

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a year and every

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time I talk with him or he visited

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me . I thought that this

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man was crazy because in a

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land of hopelessness

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, he had hope , he had joy

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, he had confidence . But I never

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had time to talk

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with him about this . I was thinking that

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I need to fix him . But that day

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, as I was ready to give up

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and I was facing

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him full of joy , full of confidence

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and peace , I remember saying

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I wish I had in my life what you had

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in my life , what you had in your

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life . And he invited me to his

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church my

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life , what you had in your life . And he invited me to his church . And I went to his church and there

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I heard the pastor opening the Bible and saying Jesus

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Christ said I am the truth , the way

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and the life . Nobody comes to the Father

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except to me . And finally I

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realized that I was looking for

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truth in the law books

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, that the truth is Jesus Christ

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and that they accepted Christ

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as my Lord and Savior . And I understood

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that Christ put on my

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heart the desire to find him

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and the desire to go to

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law school and defend Christians , because

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shortly after that lots of people

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came and asked me to defend

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them . Christians and human

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rights cases .

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So from my understanding , you

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know that at that point your

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double life started , because

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you can't be loyal

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to a communist regime

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, or in particular a dictatorship

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, and loyal to God at the same

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time . So you are naturally

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, by accepting Christ into your life , under

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those circumstances you are drawn into

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living a double life , and that has

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to be Very difficult

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internally , but in

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your case it also deeply

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impacted even your safety

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, because you can't keep secrets in dictatorship

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. I'm sure they found out eventually

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that you gave .

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I was followed by the secret police , the government

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security guards . I

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was arrested , tortured and

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placed under house arrest , and

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for me it wasn't living

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a double life . When you accept

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Christ , you accept him as your Lord

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and Savior , you are fully

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devoted to him . He gives you

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everything that you need . The Holy Spirit is

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in you . That's the way it . Devoted to him , he gives you everything that you need . The Holy Spirit is in you . That's the

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way it was to me . And I

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realized that the government

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wanted me to worship

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the government . In fact , the dictator

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declared himself a

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god and asked everyone

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to worship him and

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ask everyone to worship him . And I realized that

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you cannot serve God and

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worship dictator in the same time

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. But God gave me

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the power to worship him

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, to honor him and to help

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his children . Yes , there

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is a price to

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pay when you stand

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up against a dictator and

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his army , but God

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is giving you the power

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and the wisdom and the

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Holy Spirit that will walk with you . You

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can read in my book Saving my

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Assassin . God put on

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my side angels . What

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I call angels is people

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from outside of Romania . I

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know to me at that time Voice of America , free Europe , magazines and television programs will speak

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about what I was doing . That was God's way to

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protect me . Congressmen

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like Christopher Smith and

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Frank Wolf will come to Romania and

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talk with me about my cases . Secretary

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of State of the United States will come

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and talk with me about my cases

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and then go to dictator

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and talk with him . That was God's way

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of protecting me and

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also to expose , because

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by doing that , united

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States Department of State's human

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rights violation publicized

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my cases . United Nations

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reports on human rights violation

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publicized my cases . Again

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, I have done anything . There

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was God's way to protect me . But

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that's how God works and how

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God worked in my life

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. Yes , I was able to see when

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I was in Romania . You know

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guards and secret

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police following me , threats

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from the government and so forth

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I was not aware of

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. You know things outside

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of the Berlin Wall , but

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that's the way God works and

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she protected me . And she protected

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me for a reason that now I

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can speak up and speak . All

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over the United States People

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invite me to speak at their groups and

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their events and

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encourage people to stand up , because

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the evil one has maybe

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power for a limited

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time , as the dictator

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had a power for a limited time

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, but my life and dictator's

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life was in God's hands and

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dictator is dead for 35

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years and I'm alive for

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35 years sharing

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all over the world the power of God and how people need to stand

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up for Christ , even under

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persecution .

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Well , and then your story took an unexpected

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turn , where the

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enemy really meant to take you out

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by sending an assassin

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into your office . And of course your

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book is about

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the greatest twist

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in that story . Of what

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the enemy meant for evil

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, god meant for good

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, and I think that

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this and of course you

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know this is an encouragement

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for all of us . When

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we face these circumstances

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that are beyond our

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control , god has a

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plan and he doesn't allow us to

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suffer anything more

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than we can handle , not

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on our own strength , but through Him

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and with Him .

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That is so true . It's an

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encouragement for everyone because

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, first of all , the dictator

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believed that he created the perfect

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plan , but God is

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the one who was in

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charge of his

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life and my life . And

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also , god created

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a plan and expressed

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in an absolutely amazing

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way his love , not

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only to me but to my assassin

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. I would be a fool to tell

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people that when my assassin

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came to my office , I

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was ready and prepared . No , everything

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was done according to God's

17:59

will and step by step . Like

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I said , the dictator sent

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a new client to my office

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and because they had microphones

18:09

all over my office

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and in my home , they knew about

18:14

my whereabouts . So he came

18:16

really late , almost

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at the end of the day , and my

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assistant just had time

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to my face and started to scream saying I

18:39

am not your client

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, I'm here to kill you . We

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did everything that was possible to

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stop you , but you don't want to

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stop . So I

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am here to kill you and because

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I will kill you , I will be number

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one in dictators

18:57

. In President Ray , you

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can imagine that I was . He

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was six , 10 feet tall , with a gun

19:03

in my face . I was , and I

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still am , under five feet tall , 82

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pounds . There was no way to escape

19:10

him . So I was

19:12

shaking all over

19:14

my body . I assumed my

19:17

face was red . I heard

19:19

my heart in my ear . I

19:21

thought that I would die and

19:24

it was lots of noise

19:26

inside of me and noise outside

19:28

from him screaming

19:30

. But all this noise inside

19:32

and outside of me , I heard the

19:34

Lord's voice saying share the

19:36

gospel . And I shared

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the gospel with him . And

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as I shared the gospel with

19:42

him , he put the gun down

19:44

on the table . His shoulders

19:48

relaxed , he nodded several

19:50

times and at the end he accepted

19:52

Christ . He left

19:54

my office as a

19:56

brother in Christ , even though

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he said it's my job to

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come to your church

20:03

as a spy , but you know that

20:05

I am your brother in Christ . I

20:07

can't tell you how long I remained

20:09

in that chair until I

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finally started to pinch myself

20:14

and say I'm alive , I'm

20:16

not dead . But the

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story doesn't end there . You

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know , shortly after I don't

20:23

know six months or more after

20:26

this event , president

20:28

Reagan found out

20:30

from American embassy , who

20:32

was visiting

20:34

me and talking with me about the

20:37

entire situation , found out about

20:40

my assassin , and President

20:43

Reagan was ready to take

20:45

the most favored national statues from

20:47

Romania and from the dictator

20:50

, who used the benefits

20:52

of the most favored national

20:54

statues to build for

20:56

himself a palace and

20:59

put us under

21:01

starvation because he

21:03

was afraid , president Reagan . He was afraid

21:05

that the dictator will create another

21:07

plane and will kill me . President

21:10

Ronald Reagan , he got the phone

21:13

and called the dictator and said

21:15

I will give you the most favored

21:17

national status for

21:19

one more year with one condition

21:21

that you let Virginia and her

21:23

family to come to the United States

21:25

today . The dictator said

21:28

. President Reagan was afraid that I'm

21:30

going to die soon . The

21:32

dictator said deal , but

21:34

I will let her leave Romania

21:37

in one month . You

21:40

will find out from the book that the dictator

21:42

created another plan to kill

21:44

me , but God did not allow

21:46

him . So I came to United

21:49

States of America . I knew five

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languages , but not one word in

21:53

English . The

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dictator confiscated everything

21:58

. So I came empty-handed . Everything . So I came

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empty-handed . I didn't have friends , money , nothing

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absolutely . And

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I had with me two girls and I was pregnant

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with my son . We came together with my husband who later

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, and shortly after we came to America

22:19

in freedom , he abandoned us and

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I found myself in a foreign country

22:24

, no money , no friends , no nothing

22:26

to take care of three kids

22:29

but with God's help I

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managed and

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I learned English , not fast as

22:36

my kids . I went

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back to law school , this time

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at SNU Law School in Dallas

22:42

, texas . I opened my law

22:44

firm . I wrote

22:46

my book Saving my Assassin and I speak

22:49

all over the world . Like

22:51

I said , you can find the book at virginiaprodonbookscom

22:55

. Slash product slash book . I

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go and speak in many places . I raised

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three kids . My first daughter graduated

23:02

from SNU , like me

23:05

. My second daughter from Harvard Law

23:07

School and my son from United

23:09

States Air Force Academy . Because

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this is the best country in the

23:13

world . With God's help , you

23:15

can rebuild your life . And

23:18

it's time for all of us to stand

23:20

up for against the

23:22

spread of socialists in

23:24

America , because this country

23:27

is the best country in the world

23:29

. Socialists is not for

23:32

America . Socialists will destroy

23:34

America and will in the hands

23:37

of government or

23:39

a dictator , because

23:47

a socialist leader

23:49

becomes a dictator with

23:52

full power , full possibility

23:54

to control our lives . But it's

23:57

time for us to stand

23:59

up for what is right in

24:01

America . For us to stand

24:04

up for what is right

24:06

in America and as I was able to do

24:08

and God used me to change

24:10

Romania from a communist

24:13

, socialist country into a democratic

24:15

country . God can use each

24:17

one of us to keep America

24:20

free and to keep America as

24:22

a capitalist country and not a socialist

24:24

country .

24:25

Amen to that , Virginia , I

24:27

have to ask do you know what happened

24:30

to your assassin ?

24:32

My assassin 20 years

24:34

or 10 years , something like this

24:36

in between 10, . The book

24:38

explains that I was in

24:40

my office in Dallas , texas , and

24:43

I was coming in

24:45

my office and my assistant

24:47

told me there is a client

24:50

in your office and it's

24:52

a new client . So I went in my

24:54

office and I listened to my

24:57

client and he explained his

24:59

case and I was thinking this is a good case

25:01

, I can take it . And when

25:03

he finished explaining

25:06

his case he looked at me

25:08

straight and said Virginia , don't you

25:10

recognize me ? And I was thinking

25:12

who is this man ? And I said no

25:14

, and he showed me his Securitate

25:18

ID and I realized

25:20

I was in front of my assassin

25:23

and I assume because

25:25

I was reliving for

25:27

a few minutes that moment in Romania

25:29

. I mean , my face was red , I was shaking

25:32

. He immediately he started

25:34

to talk about what God is doing

25:36

in his life and I'll share one

25:38

secret he is a pastor now . I'll share one secret he is

25:40

a pastor now and

25:42

I share with him what God

25:44

is doing in my life . And

25:54

I say that I'm writing my memoir . And he

25:56

asked me to let him write a chapter in my book

25:58

and today you can read not only my story and my walk with God

26:00

, but also you can read his

26:02

chapter and it's a wonderful

26:04

opportunity to share with

26:07

others , because in his chapter

26:09

he explains how the

26:11

socialists captured him

26:14

with free , free , free stuff

26:16

and as a young person

26:18

he believed , and how

26:20

the socialist government made

26:22

him a monster

26:24

who would go in people's

26:27

houses and place , prepared

26:30

, you know , incriminating documents

26:33

or would go and kill people

26:35

, as the government ordered him , in

26:37

order to keep his job or

26:39

go to a higher rank

26:41

and so forth . But he also

26:43

explained how God redeemed him

26:46

and how God

26:48

changed his life . So

26:50

it's a wonderful opportunity

26:53

for each one of us and I

26:55

hope for your audience to

26:57

understand that we all

26:59

have a job and a purpose in

27:01

this life . Understand that we all have a job and a purpose

27:03

in this life , and even the people that are not liking

27:06

us or mocking us so far

27:08

in America , that is not

27:10

yet persecution . It's just a mocking

27:12

, it's just trying to isolate

27:15

us . But if we don't resist

27:17

that , if we don't stand up for truth

27:19

, persecution will come . That

27:22

if we don't stand up for truth , persecution will come . But God can

27:24

use us , even in the life of

27:26

these people that don't agree

27:28

with us , to show them

27:30

the love of the Lord Christ , and I'm not

27:32

asking anyone to put themselves

27:34

in a hurtful way . The Holy

27:36

Spirit can show you

27:38

, each one of us , what God

27:41

wants you to do in different situations

27:43

. I want to say God created

27:58

us for a job that

28:00

is higher than we can imagine . Maybe

28:02

time for us to stop

28:04

lowering our

28:06

level and start arguing

28:08

with people . Let Christ's

28:11

powers win them , win

28:13

their soul .

28:15

You know , a lot of my listeners

28:17

are people who love

28:19

the Great Commission . Our organization

28:21

, world Missions Alliance , is all about taking the Great Commission . Our organization , world Missions Alliance , is all

28:23

about taking the Great Commission to

28:25

the nations , and I think that your

28:28

story is an inspiration to those

28:30

of us who love to share the gospel , that

28:32

it doesn't stop with just

28:34

people who like us

28:36

or people who are likable

28:38

, you know , but the Word

28:41

of God is so powerful that it

28:43

has the ability even

28:45

to stop the person who is there

28:47

to kill you , and

28:50

so that is an incredible

28:52

and inspiring message . Our

28:54

slogan is

28:56

change lives , change lives

28:59

, and it's incredible to hear

29:01

that your assassin , whose life was changed

29:03

at a very crucial moment in his life

29:06

, is now a pastor and is changing

29:08

lives of others . This is what the

29:10

Great Commission is all about . Well

29:12

, thank you so much for this interview .

29:15

I want to add just one thing . I

29:18

want your audience to remember

29:20

that my story is

29:22

God's stories in my life . He

29:25

is the hero of my life

29:27

. I am not the hero . He wrote

29:29

his story in my life

29:32

long before I

29:34

scribe it into my memoir . And

29:37

God wants to write his story

29:39

in your audience life

29:41

, if they will allow him

29:43

to do it .

29:45

This is beautiful . I am

29:47

going to post the links to

29:49

your book because I'm

29:51

sure that after listening

29:53

to this interview , many of them will

29:56

want to purchase this book and read

29:58

it . I'm also encouraging

30:00

our listeners to follow you on

30:02

social media . Virginia is on

30:04

Facebook , instagram , former

30:08

Twitter . She has her own podcast

30:11

, courageous Leadership , with

30:13

Virginia Perdon , and

30:16

it's available on all the platforms

30:19

podcast platforms and I will post a

30:21

link to that also in our show notes

30:23

. But thank you , virginia , not

30:25

only for recording your story

30:28

, but also for encouraging

30:30

us to value the freedoms

30:32

that we have in this country , and

30:35

not only to value them , but be

30:37

very active in protecting

30:39

and defending them . Because

30:42

I agree with you , having lived

30:44

in a communist , socialist country myself

30:46

and my youth America is the best

30:49

country in the world and it

30:51

still is the country that is

30:53

sending the most missionaries into

30:55

the nations to proclaim the gospel

30:57

, and we must cherish that and we

30:59

must protect that , and I

31:02

think that your story is definitely

31:04

a great inspiration for that . Thank

31:07

you .

31:08

Well , Helen , thank you so very much for

31:10

having me on your podcast and thank

31:12

you so very much for your own

31:15

podcast , for this podcast , for the

31:17

platform and for the work that

31:19

you are doing for God's kingdom

31:21

and for the work that you are doing

31:23

for God's kingdom , Because

31:29

each one of us , we are just a puzzle in a beautiful picture of Jesus Christ to the world . So

31:31

thank you for giving me this opportunity to share

31:33

my story and encourage your

31:35

audience . I value very much

31:38

your work .

31:40

Only through the power of the Holy Spirit

31:43

a five-foot woman could

31:45

stand against the giant who tried

31:47

to kill her , and only

31:50

through the power of the Word of God was

31:52

she able to turn his heart from that

31:55

of a murderer into a follower

31:57

of Christ . Please

31:59

check the show notes to find the link

32:01

to Virginia Proudhon's extraordinary

32:03

book Saving my Assassin , and

32:06

follow her on social media

32:08

accounts just to keep in

32:10

touch with this extraordinary woman . What

32:13

an incredible privilege it is

32:15

to be called by Christ into

32:17

a divine partnership , to

32:19

go into all the world and

32:21

make disciples , to proclaim

32:23

the good news to the brokenhearted

32:25

, to capture the hearts of the lost

32:28

. We don't have to be qualified

32:31

. He qualifies those

32:33

he calls . This

32:35

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32:39

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32:41

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32:44

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32:46

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32:54

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32:57

next time , I'm Helen

32:59

Todd , and happy Resurrection

33:01

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