In this episode, Lisa chats with her high school classmate, Joseph Ortega, about what it means to be clean and in recovery. Since Lisa hasn’t had a drink in the new year of 2023, she thought it’d be a good idea to chat with someone about their distancing from substances. Check out https://www.lisafeelspod.com/post/sober-with-joseph-ortega to see the music video for “Lisa Feels Sober.” Song: Call Me When You’re Sober by Evanescence 

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