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Live Fun of Experienced Columbuses. Live Forward Live podcast introduces you to a new

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frontier of undiscovered possibility. Columbus is a city with an energy of its own.

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Join Boxer, Kelsey and their guests for an insider's look at a destination

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that invites visitors and locals alike to share and explore. We'll go behind the

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scenes of popular attractions, uncover best kept secrets for things to see and do,

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and meet people who embody what it means to live forward. Welcome back

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to another episode of Live Forward, Live and Experienced Columbus podcast. I'm one

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of your co hosts, Boxer along with Kelsey. Hello, I'm having a

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flashback to nineteen eighty eight, the winter. I'm in middle school. I'm

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on my couch and I'm watching the Brian Wan get the gold medal and he's

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right in front of us. Here he is world champion gold figure skating,

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metalist and restaurant tour among other things, and he's right in front of us

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on this special episode. This is the first podcast we've done where I could

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use a xanax because I'm nervous, a little zanny. You guys are nervous

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asking me about the South Park. I'm surprised you guys didn't have the song

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when I was coming on list. I've heard that so many times. Put

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it in the intro post exactly. Okay, you want to just go for

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it, ask him, I would, Brian Boytano. Do I mean it

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would come to Columbus Ohio? Of course the figure skating Championships I know.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah, take us back to that time where you had

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your own song on South Park. Oh my god. I was frightened when

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I heard about it. Yeah, So you know, did you guys ever

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see The Spirit of Christmas? That was their five minute video that went round

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like before they had like a movie or TV show, And so I didn't

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really pay attention to it. But all my friends who had jobs in studios

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like, there's this thing going around about you, like this animated thing,

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and I'm like, oh whatever. And then finally my friend at one of

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the studies goes, there's a movie coming out with a song about you, and I'm like, oh no, what are they gonna do? And when

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I went to the movie theater, kind of sat in the back row with

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a baseball hat on, and like my thing came on and like the audience

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was laughing. It was like a packed audience, like and I was like,

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this is surreal. I'm like sitting in the back row watching people laugh

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at this whole thing that's about me. And I'm like, but I'm like,

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it's nice. They kind of made me into a superhero. Yeah, it'd have been a roast like most South Park episodes. I mean, this

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is like, what would you do? I mean, we we just we

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go to you like Jesus. Yeah. Literally what I'm wondering too. You

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know, you're a gold medalist, you know, world champion, all of your accomplishments up until then. When you saw that, did you think,

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Okay, I've I've made it. Now I've officially made it. No. I was like, you know, it was like kind of with the height

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of my professional career, and so I was touring and I was busy doing

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stuff, and I thought, oh, this will just blow over, and

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but it didn't. It actually gained and gained and gained because it went from

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like movie theaters to then video rentals and then then everybody knew it and everybody

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saw it. So I realized about three years in, Okay, this isn't

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gonna go away. So I better embrace it and just you know, go

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run with it. So was there ever bracelets like ww BBD? Yeah,

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there was things like that. Yeah, Okay, actually for a while,

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I don't know if it's the store is still up. I sold T shirts with kind of my crazy face looking like what would Brian Boitano do for?

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And so I had to get the permission from those guys to actually use that

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caption on a T shirt. And they were like kind of weird to ask

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someone for permission about my own name, but they're like, as long as

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you're doing it, like for charity or something, then it's okay. So

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like I need to use what we're going my name? Yeah, okay.

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Brian boys on It is with Us Caesar this week's guest on Live Forward,

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Live and Experienced Columbus Podcast. And of course it's been a while since we've

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been to Columbus. This is a big thing right now because Columbus is hosting

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the twenty twenty four US Figure Skating Championships. You're going to be back for

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that. But the last time you were in Columbus was how long ago?

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I think twenty twenty years ago, so a lot has changed. Yeah,

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I used to travel with a show called Champions on Ice, and we came

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through Columbus. So we would do like one year, we did ninety ninety

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cities in five months. We'd do one night or so. We would go

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from Cleveland one night, then we'd go to Columbus the next night, and

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then we'd go to Cincinnati the next night, and then we'd continue around the

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nation, just doing like one night or so. I didn't really have a

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chance to see much of Columbus then, but I can already tell it's changed

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so much since I was here, you know now, Like you need to

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just take a weekend here, yeah, and joy the city. It's incredible.

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Yeah, I'll have more time when I come back in January because I'll

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be here for the whole week. Yeah. Absolutely, So maybe you guys

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can show me some of the good things we'd love to Are you kidding me?

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Yeah, we'll take you on by the way in your career as a

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skater, do like like rock stars and and actors and do you also have

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fans and maybe uber crazy fans too, No disrespect to them, but yeah,

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oh yeah, I think what are they called? Yeah? What do

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you boy? Oh? My own? Yeah, your stands what are they

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called. I don't know, we need to make a name. Yeah,

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like the boy to the boy that's the boy. Yeah, I don't know,

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I just yeah. But they would follow try they would follow. I

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mean they would be you know, they would follow our buses like they would

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line the stadiums. Come out from the bus and we'd have to go sign

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autographs. They'd be out there and we'd go out to the back door and

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cynautographs and they'd be at the hotels when we came in at three o'clock in

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the morning waiting for us and stuff. So yeah, yeah, it was

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nice. We had a lot of support. It was I mean, in

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that time, skating was super popular. I mean it was number two to

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NFL in viewership sport. It was number two sport above basketball and baseball.

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So we had a cast of really great characters that were on the road with

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us. So you know, it was funny because even you know, like

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the whole even not even the headliners on our show, but the secondary and

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third Dairy people were like recognized on the streets. So we'd walk through airports

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and there be like, oh my god, there's you know this person and

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that person and Surrey Boniley, and you know, it's like every you know,

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it's they would recognize everyone. So it was kind of fun, fun

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times. And this event that's coming to Columbus, Like, how excited should

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we get? Really excited? Right? This is pretty special. This is really special. I mean for those in the audience that don't know the significance

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or the importance of a national Championships, it's basically the top event for every

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US figure skater. But also so it's one of the most important events in

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the world because everybody watches US Figure Skating Championships to see who's going to be

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our champions in the years. In the senior division, the top three will

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go onto the World Championships and then in the Olympic year it will serve as

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our Olympic Trials, and so in Olympic year, the top people from this

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event will go to the Olympics. So people are grooming themselves for three years

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down the road when the Olympics are so they're sort of using this as gearing

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up and you know, you know, making sure that they're on the right

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trajectory for three years down the road for the Olympics. And even at the

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lower like junior level, it's like to get a national title is a benchmark.

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It's a huge benchmark in any skater's career. Yeah, so it's a

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really really important event. And you know what I got to say. So

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I did some events yesterday to promote the first day of ticket sales, and

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everybody is so excited to have it here. They have wanted it in Columbus

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for a very long time and we finally made it here. But you can

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tell when you go to a community that is passionate about having an event like

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this, and I can tell that it's going to be a great event,

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and I can tell it's going to be a great audience, and I think that the building is going to just be like packed and super lively. Oh

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I can't wait. Not that it's the same, but we have our own

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NHL team ice and skating in an arena, you know it just I think

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it's kind of a cool like way to take go from sports to the creative

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art piece on the ice, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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What one thing Brian I have to ask you is how did you go from

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skating to a Food Network star? And then I guess it kind of makes

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sense. You got into food and beverage somewhere there was I kind of know,

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but it's so I don't want to say random, but it's it's different,

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and you've become very successful at it. I say diverse it is because

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who would have figured. But like it was funny because after, like when

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I was traveling after I stopped Olympic competition, I was the first one of

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my friends who had like a real full size kitchen because I bought a house

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when I was young, and so all my friends would want to come over

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there. And so when I was home from touring or doing TV specials or

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whatever, I would invite all my friends over and then we'd take turns,

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like doing different recipes and making different cocktails and trying different wines, and so

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it became an experience. And then fast forward, I had met one of

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the skating producers. Had a friend who was a producer at Food Network,

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and I went to have a meeting because I had this idea for a Food

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Network show that I would like kind of skate in these you know, famous

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places that had outdoor rinks, and that i'd meet up with chefs from famous

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restaurants in that place. So I would go to Aspen and do a like

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exhibition and aspen. Then I'd go like meet one of the chefs at the

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famous restaurants and cook with them, and that would become a show. So

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I met with a producer and he's like, how about we drop the whole

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skating thing and just do a food thing. I'm like, oh my god, most people want to add the skating thing. I've never been asked to

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drop it. So we shot a pilot and Food Network liked it and they

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bought it. So that led to a cookbook, and then that led to me doing a guest spot on a lot of cooking shows. So I was

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on Hell's Kitchen and the owner of this boutique hotel brand called the Kindler saw

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me on the on that and he realized that the audience that I had that

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followed me skating is the type of people that the demographic that he wanted into

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the hotel. So he asked if I would like to start Boitano's Lounges and

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the Kindler brand, and I said yes, And that's in Lincoln, Nebraska,

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Lincoln, Nebraska, and we're breaking ground in Kansas City, Missouri. We have the building and we already have our building in Baltimore, So there

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will be two more boutique hotels on top of Lincoln, Nebraska. So is

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boutique hotels kind of what you're looking for with under one hundred rooms. Yeah,

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it's a boutique five star experience and yeah, the quality of the design

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and everything. You guys got to check it out online. It's Kindler Kindler

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hootel dot com. It's really it's it's very posh, very beautiful. I

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think we have some space here in Columbus for you. We have to if

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you find like a historic building, be perfect because what we do is we

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buy historic buildings and then the owner builds on top of that, so it's

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like not really modern on the top and then historic on the bottom. So

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it's really cool and yeah, sorry sorry, but also you are going to

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have your lounge at the Championships at Nationwide Arena for us all to experience too,

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right, Yes, we just scattered it out yesterday, so we were

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going all over the building going where do we want the lounge. So it's

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been it's been really fun to do this because I develop all the cocktails for

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the lounge. I develop all the food for the lounge. So it's nice

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for the audience to have a place to get away in between skating events,

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because you know, when skaters, when people fans come into the building,

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they can be there all day, Like it starts at like ten o'clock in

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the morning until eleven o'clock at night, and so it's nice to be able

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to go and feel like you're getting away from the building. And it's fun

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because all the alumni comes into the lounge and it's it's just a fun way

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to share the event with your friends and fans. You know, just greet

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the fans and they want a cocktail, and so I do like a whole

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menu of cocktails, and so it's going to be fun. We're gonna do like a boozy root beer float and yeah, so we're like deciding what's going

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to be on the list of fun things to do, and we're going to do We're going to actually serve all local products cool. So that's great.

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I want it. I told them yesterday. I want all the distilleries names

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that are local because I want to serve all that. I want the ice

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cream to be lovical. I want everything to be local. And there's a

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local soda. I think that does like specific Sodas for ice cream pairings.

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So yeah, we're Brian. You said alumni. Who else is gonna be

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in the lounge? Yeah, so like last year we had you know,

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Christiamaguchi and who else was there. It was like it was you know a

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lot of a lot of the people came into the lounge. I don't know

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who's coming to the National Championships this year, but certainly you know the famous

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alumni that comes back. We had Paul Wiley, I think Nancy Kerrigan was

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there. So we have you know, they come in and hang out at

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the end the lounge and so you know if there, if we're between ice

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cuts or skaters, you know, they just come in and hang out and

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then go back out to watch the skating and come back in, you know.

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So it's it's really a fun experience for everyone. Let me ask you this. In your cell phone right now, do you have Scott Hamilton's phone

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number? Yeah, you want to call him? Yeah? I did this

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thing. No, this is funny. This is funny. We did this

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skit for US Figure Skating last year where I facetimed people, and I guess

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there was this thing going around that you FaceTime people and when they pick up, You're like, oh, I got to call you back, and then

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you hang up on it. So I had like the camera over my shoulder

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and everyone that I called answered. I called Christy Amaguchi, I called like

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Nancy Carrigan and I mean I called all these Dorothy Hamill, It's like,

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I'm calling all these people. I'm like, they're all picking up and Christy's

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like the hair was all was like, oh God, she's gonna kill me,

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like you know, and they knew, they knew what was happening.

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Nancy goes, I think you're doing that trick that like, you know, my son told me there's a trick where you hang up on people. I'm

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like, I'll call you later. Clicks fans. What about Tanya Harding.

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I haven't seen her since the Olympics. I have no idea. I have

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no idea. The last time I saw her was in Little Hammer Olympics at

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the building and then that was the last of it. When story, when

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you get recognized in the street, Bryan, what's what's something that one of

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the first things people say. Most common thing they'll say, Well, they'll

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either know me from skating or South Park. Okay, it depends on their

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age, you know what I mean. They're like, you're the guy from

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out park, like, yeah, yeah, I guess I am. It's

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good. The Olympic gold skating metalist Brian Botano is with us and Brian,

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what what have you observed in the past since, especially since winning the gold

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back in eighty eight to now speed fast forward twenty twenty three. What are

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some of the things you've noticed that maybe changes in skating and the Olympics or

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good bad. The thing that I noticed that stays the same is the back

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behind the scenes of the skaters getting ready and then the experience that they have

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when they get on the ice. It's it's always a constant. It will

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always be the same, that feeling that you get backstage when they you know,

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you're getting your skates on, you're coming out of the locker room,

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you're getting ready to get on the ice, the lights are on, the

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crowd is there, You're just like waiting to have the door open for you

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to get on for your six minute warm up. That all maintains the same,

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and it's such a pressure cooker. I mean, it really is.

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It's so stressful and it's something that you have to gradually work yourself up to

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like dealing with that kind of stress. But when you're out of it for

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a while and then you go back into it and you were back downstage with

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the skaters as they're getting ready, you feel it again and you and a

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lot of the times you're like, wow, how did I deal with that? Talk about needing a zany? Right? Yeah, there goes that triple.

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I don't care if I hit that. Brian? Can I ask can

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you take us? Just because I'm a history not a fan of you. Nineteen eighty eight, the Battle of the Brians, all that hype before you

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got out on the ice, What were you feeling, knowing what was at

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stake here, how well you wanted to do? Were you I don't want

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to ask the dumb question, were you nervous? But what were you thinking

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about? Well? It's interesting because I always say I was nervous, but

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I was more anticipatory because I knew I could do it, and I wanted

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to get out there and do it. I wanted to be doing it right

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then and there and doing it well. So but it's it's interesting. Your

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mental preparation really comes into play. Like when they were announcing my name,

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it's like all the people got off warm up and they're like next to skate.

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I had this little voice in my head that came in, and I was known as a very, very consistent skater. So this voice came in

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my head and it goes, you're gonna blow it, and I'm like what,

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And they're like announcing my name. I'm like, oh my god,

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no, no, no, I'm not going to blow it. And so it was like this whole fight, this tug of war with this little voice.

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Because at those times of importance, like in your whole career, I

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mean, it was the most important moment in my life to be good.

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And you know, it's like that negative voice some kind of times comes in

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and you have to have the tools in your tool belt to deal with it.

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And so finally, by the time the music started, I had like

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used every tool I had in my toolbox to like sort of calm it down,

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and I got in a zone. And so if you stop any moment

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of the video during that performance, I can tell you exactly what I was

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thinking at that moment. I was completely completely in the zone, and I

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felt like I was just in a dream state. And I remember at certain

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points going like, oh my god, I'm skating so well. That can't be And so, in answer to your question, when you finish a program,

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when you've had this skate of your life at the most important point in your life, it's almost surreal. You think to yourself, this can't be

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happening because it's really just too good for any one person to experience. I'm

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gonna cry, you know. I mean, because you think about Simone Biles

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and your twisties and you know in sports psychology, and and for you to

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be able to push that out and get to that place that you know what

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your potential is and then reach it. Yeah, wow, it's just such

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a I mean, it sounds simple, it's so satis. It's such satisfaction.

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It's like, you're like, no matter what I do in the rest of my life, I have this moment that I was able to like fight

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my way through this and have the performance of my life with the most pressure

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in my life. You know, it doesn't right, It doesn't sound like

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like with other sporting events. Is there any smack talk. There is smack

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talk. There is times there is smack talk, but you're a leyer alone

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a lot of the time, So the smack talk a lot of times comes

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from your own head. Oh yeah, so it's there is a little bit,

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but you know, honestly, I mean the people who talk smack at

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an elite level of an athlete, it's bad on. I mean they're wasting

19:30

their energy. Because you guys are at an elite level, you know how

19:33

to deal with smack talk. So it's more about them wasting their energy than

19:37

it is affecting you. Sure, if you let it affect you at that

19:41

level, then it's bad on. Right, Right, I was reading a

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little bit about you know, you're still capable of going out on the ice

19:49

and doing your jumps, but your body is like like like, you know,

19:56

you have the skill set and and you're so in shape, but your

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body ages terrible, right can It's horrible, so ridiculous, cause your mind

20:07

tells your body to do something. You're like, I'm telling it to do

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it, and it used to obey me, right, and now it's like,

20:14

you know, like sand bags on your ankles, sand bags on your

20:17

ankles and on your waist and on your shoulders. It's like one hundred pounds

20:21

of sand bags and you're like, oh my god, how come I I'm jumping under the ice. It's like, yeah, it's terrible, It's horrible.

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Yeah, where do you keep your gold medal? Just out of curiosity?

20:32

It used to be. I used to keep it in my parents' safety

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deposit box, and I finally moved that, and it was just in the

20:37

last couple of years, and I just I, you know, I keep

20:41

it at home. I keep it at home in the safe and I I

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brought it out like two nights ago to show this kid who came over who

20:48

was a friend of a friend that wanted to see it. Yeah. I

20:51

never bring it out really, and I never travel with it. So but

20:56

I don't blame a special experience. Yeah, but it's my cost and my

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skates are in the Smithsonian, So that's kind of read that I went to

21:04

go see him. I was gonna say, did you go and see it?

21:07

Yeah? What was that like? To stare at your costume that's now

21:11

in a museum? Well and there, and so the skates are next to the ruby red slippers, So I'm like, are you kidding me? It's

21:18

not in the it's not in the same case. Like the ruby red slippers

21:22

have their own case and mine's in a case mixed with other things, but

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I'm like still, dang, okay, I'll take it. Oh my gosh,

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by the way, one last thing on that gold medal. I can't believe this year. It's thirty five years. I know, thirty five years.

21:40

Crazy. Wow. Yeah, And it's sometimes it feels like it was

21:42

yesterday. And to think of all the life that I've had since then in

21:47

the professional career and doing all that stuff and the different directions that I've gone,

21:52

it's been you know, it just feels like, wow, that that went really fast. Yeah. Brian Boyitato is our guest this week. I'm

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Living Forward Live and you're into Columbus Podcast. He's in town, of course,

22:03

prepping for January's US Figure Skating Championships. Brian, what are you hoping

22:07

attendees maybe for a first time or they've been to these a few times take

22:12

away from this event in January there For those who haven't seen figure skating life,

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it is a whole different ballgame. We I mean, if you've never

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seen it live, you like on TV, the cameras kind of follow you

22:25

along the ice, so you don't get a glimpse of the speed. The

22:29

speeds that we travel going into jumps and like the pair teams like twenty miles

22:33

an hour going into a throw and then the girls launched across the ice.

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You feel the breeze that goes as the skaters come by you. It's live

22:40

with the music, you feel the tension in the building. So to see

22:44

an event live is completely a different animal than seeing it on TV. So

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what the people are going to experience is just this magnetic energy and this incredible

22:56

you know, you can sense the athleticism in you know, with figure skating

23:00

and a lot of people, I think that when people watch the athleticism is

23:04

sometimes secondary, it's more the artistic thing. But really the thing that makes

23:08

it so athletic is that you have to have that artistic element too, and

23:12

that makes it harder to be as athletic as you as you are. And

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the guys now doing so many quadruples. I mean, we have our American

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Champion is a kid that does He did the first triple a quadruple axle,

23:26

which is yea four and a half rotations, so nobody does it except him

23:32

in the world. So if you're looking for athleticism and men's skating, it's

23:37

going to be delivered at this national Championships. That's incredible. Brian's in town

23:41

now to promote that. The tickets are officially on sale and you can get

23:45

them at Figure Skatingcolumbus dot com. Absolutely right, Brian, real quick.

23:51

When it comes to skating, how important, how vital is the song that

23:56

you're skating to. That's an interesting question because a lot of the times you

24:00

have to choose a song that isn't your favorite song but will appeal to the

24:07

judges. So you have to take that into consideration because a lot of people

24:11

make the mistake of choosing this song that means so much to them, but

24:14

it's really lost on everybody else. So it really is a combination effort of

24:21

how to choose and find the song that's right for you, between your coach,

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your like the judges like that are overseeing you, and the choreographer you

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really need to It takes forever to find the right song. I mean,

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it's really hard to find the right song, but it is really important.

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And here at Experience Columbus, we're all about how we can live forward and

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we like to ask our guests what they live for, So some might live

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to amplify diverse voices live for flavor, new perspectives, thrilling experiences. Is

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there something you would say you live for. I think I live for person

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connection. I love hanging out with friends and creating. I think that's why

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I got into the lounges too, because I love people having a great experience

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and living a great experience. And so I can provide that. When you

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know people are sitting down, relaxing in a great environment, having a cocktail,

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having food, socializing, I just love that and I think that we

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need more of that in our lives, and so I love providing that and

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being part of that great By the way, in January, if we go

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to that lounge, which I really want to favorite menu items we should try?

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Oh well, I haven't come up with the exact menu items yet.

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Oh oh okay, so oh menu items like food wise or yeah drinks.

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So you're still developing the Yeah, okay, I think I think that one

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of the we served last night at the pre Things so I did. I

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do one called Strawberry Feels Forever. It's a strawberry peppercorn, sage syrup,

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fresh strawberry, and then I do a lime a little chin which is jalapino

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and a lime cordial with tequila. It's kind of and my version of like

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a margarita but a little bit stepped up. Yeah. So we do all

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you know, original like homemade ingredients and yeah, and we're gonna have like

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mixologists on staff and serving a whole. Also, what's your favorite spirit?

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What's your go to spirit? Oh? Gosh, it depends on my mood.

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Liquor wine. Do you like bourbon? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah.

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So I do this one called gold Rush where I smoke the glass with

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dried rosemary, and then I do chili chili salt rim and then I mix

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it. I mix, you know, I do bourbon and a honey syrup and lime in the smoked glass, and that's one of our most popular ones

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at the hotel. And then I do last night, I was serving a

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grapefruit martini that we infuse the vodka with grapefruit peel, so it's really you

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know, we do it all ourselves. And then fresh squeeze grapefruit juice and

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then a rose simple syrup, so rose flavored simple syrup and the glass is

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like rimmed with like crushed roses and sugar. So did you grow up like

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mixing cocktails and cooking and all this stuff. Not really, but my aunt,

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my great aunt was an amazing entertainer, so she had all the glass

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where you know, like all the cocktail glasses, all the little, you

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know, plates for serving, just anything that had to do with entertaining.

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My great aunt had everything. So it kind of inspired me to continue the

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tradition that my great aunt and my grandmother had for all those years. And

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that's I think probably one of the reasons that I like. And I'm actually

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writing a cocktail book now. Oh, I certainly could do that. After

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what you just described, the rose petal, I want some. I want

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some of that. Brian. This has been such a treat that we appreciate

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your time so much. And when you come back at January for the skating

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Championships, Kelsey and I would love to take you around town paint the town.

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That'd be great. That'd be a lot of fun, And I do hope you guys let's do another show from the Boitanos Lounge when we get wouldn't

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it be fun? Absolutely Olympic gold Medalist, World Champion, pop culture icon

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with South Park, you name it, he's right here. Brian Boytono,

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thanks so much for your time, appreciate it. Thanks, good seeing you

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guys. I'll see in January. Hey you live fun. Thanks for listening

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