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Live. In Direct right here on K

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Stray from the Live Room it's your boy

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Larry Mize our junior. Thank you for listening!

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I'm so happy right now we have with

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as a guest who made one of my

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favorite albums of Twenty Twenty One Play With

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the Changes I'm talking about Richelle Jordan Are

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you doing? I'm doing. Wow Area

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fantastic. It's a good have you here Thank. You

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so much for having me! Absolutely. You'll.

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Get some music for Sweetie Blitz.

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Go a scan it Gay xp.

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He needs. To.

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Be missed. It

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is it. Really? To.

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To see. The

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Seasons. He.

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Is even and he was g.

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M T that. Seems.

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To be. Nice

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to see. No,

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never. Even

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really, even. Remember

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when you go. On

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and. On

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and. On

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of America. Will

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be a he. Added.

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l I'm

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not a sinner, I'm a fan in the world,

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but I'll still down it. Can't I send you

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to lay on my bed? I'll

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still keep that, I'll always down it. Don't

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want you to get around, I'll tell you

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nothing. I'll

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still keep

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on, I'll still be there. I'll

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still be there, can't I send

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you to lay on my bed?

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I'll still keep on, I'll still

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be there. I'll

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still keep on, I'll still be there. I'll

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still be there, can't I send

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you to lay on my bed?

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I'll still be

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there, I'll still be there. I'll

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still be there, can't I send you to lay on my

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bed? And

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a lot of. People.

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Are. To.

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Believe. Know.

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Me and. my

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When you're not with your hands

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I'm on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on my line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on a line I'm

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on my

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line Ma'shell

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Jordan, live on Dywalkie XP I'm

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on my line

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I'm on

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my line I'm

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on my line

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I'm on my

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line I'm on

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my line I'm

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on my line I'm

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on my line In

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your name I'm a man I'm

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a man I'm

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a man I'm a man I'm

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a man I'm a

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man I'm

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a man I'm a man

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I can't apologize for you I'm

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a detective I am a man I'm

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a man I'll be there to take you out

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for having some protection No, I I

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hate to be so negative But tell

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me where to end I'm

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a man I'll be there to take you out for having some protection No,

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I'm a man I'm a

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man I'm a man I

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can't apologize for you I'm a

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man I can't apologize for

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you I'm a man I'm

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a man I'm a man I'm

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a man I'm a

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man I'm

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a man And

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I hate to be so negative But

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tell me when you're there I'm

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a man I can't apologize for

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you I'm a

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man I'll be there to take you out

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for having some protection Don't make me feel

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good Baby,

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try and save

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me And touch

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me when you get

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there And

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touch me when you get

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there If you don't mind,

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don't mind, don't mind Baby,

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come save me Where

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is he here, baby?

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Keep me on the way

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that you've been laying that

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line Michelle

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Jordan, live on the afternoon, so KEXP

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Love is love, love is love

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Baby, come save me Keep

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me on the way that

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you've been laying that line

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I can't help you guys Any

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the whoop! Whoop!

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Mariah, Michelle.

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Jordan. Live. On T Xp

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afternoon so thank you so much St.

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Louis! Ah I is this are being

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out on the road. Is this the

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first time you've gotten the tour? Play

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with the changes, absolutely out how to

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see us. Start to feel so

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gas amazing. Yeah does all these

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new experiences and it's my. First

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Soy Wow this is really yeah. this

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is a life long as like a

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bucket list like all kinds of things

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are happening for near a love it

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Talking about the title and it struck

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me right away. It's always been one

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of my favorite concepts. Phrases play with

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the changes would have to use moves

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yes no and means a lot to

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me. I mean. I.

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Know when on a little bit of a hiatus. After

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my last product or ten, twenty one

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and two thousand and fourteen I just

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disappeared. There's a lot of things happening,

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a lot of movement, lot of new

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management rolling over, a lot of bad

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situations, but a lot of music been

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made and and I'm in my darkest

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times. I found

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myself just. Putting more

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of my energy into finding experimentation

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and adventure with in the music.

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So I was finding joined as

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a plane with rhythms playing with

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sounds and just whatever was happening

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on this island be able to

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put his their current compartmentalize that.

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And be playing with changes on this

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side And as that started. To happen things

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started to change over on their side a

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better situation came together and damn you know

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when you get into those dark places to

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so easy to this and have fallen and

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moved down that path and the can affect

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the i can affect. Many things in

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your life by I was able

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to just grasp on since playing

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with changes musically and. then seeing it

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playing with the changes of on the dark side

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of what i was going to at the time

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and he i just clicked one day The

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title came to me, it just made so much

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sense. And so it means a couple of things,

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but that's what it means, playing with the changes. Right,

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that makes a lot of sense. I know they've been

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that long hiatus since 1021. And

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you hear this kind of, you

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hear some of that darkness and that woundedness

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on play with the changes, but this resilience

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and this dedication to

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perseverance and to care, which

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is just everything. I love that

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you performed a lay. That's one of my

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favorites on that record. You're talking about, hoping

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for the safety of a loved one that's moving

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around when

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they leave the house. And you're watching

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channel five, KTLA. I

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know you're seeing some stuff on there. Talk

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to me about that song. Yeah, I feel

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like that song is a song that we

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all are, probably,

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if you hear the song, you're

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probably gonna feel it because it seems like there's

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a lot going on right now. There's a lot

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of gun violence, it's out of control. I

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don't even really wanna get into it. But when I

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did write that song, it

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was a lot of the Black Lives

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Matter movement. Even prior to that, I

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had been thinking about this and having

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an anxiety about around police brutality. And

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it wasn't until Nipsey Hussle passed away that

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these words came to me as Clash was playing

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the chords at the studio

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and you're safe with me when I'm watching

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you sleep, just kept going around in my

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head every time he played those roads. And

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my mind was just on Nipsey Hussle on Lauren London

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and how she would be feeling. Then

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Kobe Bryant and it's life and

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we're all going to face this. But

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I just was just thinking into

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the anxiety of what it feels

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like to lose somebody or to

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just feel the anxiousness of possibly losing

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somebody. It's something that

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I needed to express. And

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yeah, that song really helped me

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kind of get. through my mind basically

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and fight through all the anxiety that

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I feel around my loved ones right

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now. Wow. Thank you for

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sharing all that and everything that's in that song. I feel

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like I was just talking about the same thing with a

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rock artist, black rock artist cat named Barthese

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Strange. He made a song,

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he's got a new single out

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and inspiration for that was the

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daughter of a guy

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who got murdered in 2020. Oh, the

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daughter of George Floyd. George Floyd, yeah.

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Sorry, I was just thinking all the other names.

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So thinking about that and kind of

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projecting into a person who's experiencing loss

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on a very

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visible stage, the

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kind of empathy going into that, I just really

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appreciate that, you know, care, like I said. Thank

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you. I'm glad you appreciate it too. I

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appreciate that. And you got Clash

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with you. I know you've been

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working with Clash and Machine Drum and Jimmy

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Edgar, all fantastic producers, like pretty much from

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the jump, right? Yeah. So Clash

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and I have been working together since 2009. He

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found me on YouTube when I was a little bitty

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singing Khalee songs and he saw me

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and I only joined because Justin Bieber made

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it because of that. So I was like, okay, I guess I'll go

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on there and try it out. And then he found me right away.

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I heard his sound just by chance

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actually. And yeah, we just started working

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together ever since. And then

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Machine Drum and Jimmy came around 2015-16. So

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it's still a very long time of knowing those guys as

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well. These three producers

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have such eclectic sounds and standpoints and they

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always keep me on my toes as a

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creative. I love to be challenged, like

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send me a beat that's just like regular, regular. I'm

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just not, I'm not going to respond to it. Sometimes

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I go through their discography and like, send me this, give

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me this. And they're like, that is so

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weird. Like why do you want that? But

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it's just, they help me keep me creative

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and imaginative. And those are the people

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that I love to surround myself with. So yeah, those are those

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guys. I love that you have

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this, this unit that you've stuck tight with.

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You know when things were like getting

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rocky and you're going through those situations like you're

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talking about you're just like chuck

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it I'm gonna go no, you know

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never that yeah, never that create until

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something happens. Yeah. Yeah, right on

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and So you're in LA? Yes

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on young art Toki monsters label. How's

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that? Oh my god is so good Tokis

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amazing. She's the funniest sweetest person

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Yeah, she came again Just like the perfect

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time telling you the way the whole thing

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lined up was just beautiful and just perfect

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We had already been done with play with the changes

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little tweaks and twerks but she heard it right before

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we really got into just like cleaning it up and

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She she understands my sound she

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she understands Just the

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the placement of me cuz I'm you

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know black from Canada and you know

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I'm getting into electronic music and I'm

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trying to find my sound and I

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found it and it's just like but

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Not everyone can really understand or see

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the full vision Yeah And she came

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in and she just got it and

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it just made the most sense for

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for all of us Involved and yeah,

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it's been awesome ever since right on.

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Yeah. Well shout out to young art

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for bringing us this record Yeah, and

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like you mentioned you're Canadian native

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native to Toronto one of my favorite

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cities in North America Tell

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me about that kind of scene coming out of there.

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Yeah So when

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I started making music I

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would say I was really starting to recall or

23:27

figure out my sound or what I was looking

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for before clash I

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would be at Humber College Down

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there on where is it Eglinton or something like

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that downtown? Anyways, I'd be in there with

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all the music cuz I didn't even go to the school. I

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would just go into the college I don't even go here. I

23:42

didn't even go like the teachers like hey, I'm like, hey I

23:44

was in the module just like singing and doing things just trying

23:47

to figure out what I wanted to do next Then

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I had like a little band and I was singing

23:52

in like coffee shops and stuff like that This was

23:54

like really early on and then I started the YouTube

23:56

thing. So and then when I linked

23:59

up with clash and we started finding our

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sound, I decided to then move, or at least

24:03

go back and forth from Canada to LA. So

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I kind of centered in LA, put

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the roots down over there. But

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as far as Canada, just being in and out

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and watching it blossom the way it did with

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all these amazing artists the weekend, it blows my

24:20

mind. Drake, we

24:22

can go down the list. There's

24:24

just so many people. There's Jesse Lanza

24:26

as well. The

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list goes on. It's Majid from... Yeah,

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yeah, Maji Jordan. Yeah. My

24:34

God, Charlotte. There's so many great, amazing

24:36

people. But yeah,

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just seeing that, it was really

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inspiring. And they're just forever coming

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out with new, amazing talent. So I'm just pretty much

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just part of the list. But

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yeah, it's really cool. I love it. What's

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kind of been the biggest change since you started

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living in the States most of the time?

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The biggest change for me? Honestly,

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I'm the kind of person that just goes into things and

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just rides the wave. I've

25:03

never questioned my choices

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in being in the music industry and this

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purpose that I'm in. No matter how hard

25:09

it got, I just jumped into things and

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I go. I don't know where that... I think, honestly,

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it comes from my parents. They did the same thing when

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I was young, when I was three. They just moved, they

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moved from Jamaica to England, then

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they went from England to Canada, and they

25:22

had nothing. And they just went on

25:25

a hope that things would just be better

25:27

and fruitful in the end. And

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it was. And I feel like

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I've picked up on that from my parents. So I'm the

25:33

kind of person that just goes into a guns

25:35

blazing and that's it. So I miss my

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family. I miss Canada. I miss the weather,

25:39

the different seasons. You miss all the weather?

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I love all of it. I know in

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LA you don't have as many seasons. No, we don't. And

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at first it was great. It was just hot all the

25:48

time. But now I'm just like, oh my gosh, I miss

25:50

seasons. I love winter just as much as I do summer.

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But yeah, so I

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never, you know, it's different, but I

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don't like stay in that place. I

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just roll with the punches pretty much right

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on yeah, and now you're on the road

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touring this album your first tour ever

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That's fantastic What

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do you got cooking next? Good.

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Thanks. Good things

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are cooking already, which is good always

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working always coming up with new ideas Yeah,

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I think I'm gonna continue touring actually into the

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fall There's a couple things that have come up,

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but I am working on a new project,

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but we'll see Like

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play with the changes it just kind of came

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together when it needed to at the right time

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and I Plan on being

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that kind of artist where I'm not gonna

26:37

be rushed into things or just put something

26:39

together Just because just to keep relevant. I've

26:41

never been that kind of person. So I'm

26:43

not gonna change now I'm just gonna keep

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creating until it feels good feels perfect And

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I have an idea of like what I want to

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do next and the pocket I want to be in

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and I'm just gonna move Forward with yeah, the faith.

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That's it. Fantastic. Yeah Well, we're all looking

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forward to see what that looks like. Thank

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you so much for stopping by here Thank you,

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and they're gonna be at Barbosa tonight. I'm gonna

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check you out there Awesome. Thank

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you. Absolutely. Give me a good one. Yes,

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indeed. Michelle Jordan class. Thank you for joining

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