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Welcome to Living in Purpose on Purpose . I'm

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your host , jamie Hensel , and welcome

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to my podcast . Today

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I have Bruce Allen here with me for our first

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interview of the season and the first interview

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of the year . I'm super excited , but without

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further ado , I do want him to introduce himself

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. But before we get there , I want to make sure you're

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following us on Instagram I live in purpose

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TikTok now . It's very new to me

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, living in Purpose on Purpose podcast . Make sure you

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subscribe , like and share with your

0:59

friends and family . So how are you doing

1:01

today , bruce ?

1:03

I'm doing great . I'm excited to be

1:05

here , I've been anticipating

1:07

this day , and so I'm very excited

1:10

. I'm

1:13

glad to be here with Living on Purpose , and

1:16

so I am Bruce Allen , and with Real

1:18

Life with Bruce , I also have a podcast

1:21

, and so I would like for you all

1:23

to follow me on Instagram the

1:25

real life Bruce Allen , and then on Facebook

1:28

, bruce Allen , and

1:31

so I'm just happy to be here . Thank you so much for inviting

1:33

me .

1:33

It's so exciting because this is my first interview of

1:35

the season . I'm super nervous

1:37

about it . I haven't done an interview in

1:39

a while , like a few years

1:42

. I used to do them all the time

1:44

, the same type of concept , the last episode

1:47

of the month , and it was just something

1:49

I did all the time , and now this

1:51

just feels like it's new all over again

1:53

. It's very nerve-wracking , but bear with me

1:56

. Y'all bear with me too . We're gonna

1:58

do this thing . Okay , we're still fairly new

2:00

to YouTube and all that stuff too , but if you're listening

2:02

to us via audio , thank

2:04

you for tuning back in again , make sure you're checking

2:07

us out on YouTube and if you're watching us on YouTube

2:09

, welcome back . So thank

2:11

you for your introduction . I'll have all of Bruce's

2:13

socials listed

2:16

below on the episode on YouTube

2:18

everything . But I did want you

2:20

to just give the people a little insight

2:22

about who you are or what you do , and

2:25

just let them know so when they go to connect

2:27

with you , they can know what to look for . To

2:29

look for , okay yes .

2:31

So what I do is I also have a podcast

2:33

. Amy's actually helping

2:35

me behind the scenes , but

2:38

she's actually helping me but what I do is

2:40

I give out information that

2:43

is to not only encourage and inspire you

2:45

, but to have you think differently than what

2:47

you may have been brought up like , not trying to say that

2:49

how you were taught is the

2:51

wrong way , but just have you think outside the box

2:53

. And so I give out inspirational quotes

2:56

, I post things that make you

2:58

think , I post things that make you look into other

3:00

aspects of life . And

3:02

so we're just here to motivate people , inspire

3:04

, to encourage and to push people

3:06

beyond what they're used to .

3:08

Okay , I like it . It's very

3:11

much a believing in purpose on purpose , as Allie

3:13

. So that's why I felt like you would be a great

3:15

first interview for the year , for the season

3:17

, because just a lot of similarities

3:19

within there that I feel like my

3:21

viewers would benefit from hearing that perspective

3:23

and vice versa . So

3:26

, of course , you already told us a little bit about what

3:28

you do , but I did want to see

3:30

you pick your brain a little bit

3:32

about what type of goals and aspirations

3:34

you have . What can we look forward

3:37

to when it comes to the

3:39

real life with Bruce ?

3:40

Yes , so the goals that we have

3:42

for real life with Bruce is actually

3:45

to not only give out that information

3:47

, to inspire and motivate , to encourage

3:49

, to have you people think outside the

3:51

box , but it's also to eventually be able

3:53

to help those in need . So

3:56

on a financial level , not just a mental and emotional

3:59

level to have people think , but

4:01

to financially bless people with

4:03

cars , with paying people's light

4:05

bills , giving out groceries , helping

4:08

the homeless , establishing other type

4:10

of non-for-profit . So it's definitely something

4:12

that we're not just trying to do

4:14

it from here and it's just about real

4:16

life with Bruce . No , it's about trying to help

4:18

you all and listen . The extra

4:21

thousand dollars right now would help me today

4:23

. So why ?

4:24

can't we do that ?

4:26

with those who are watching and everybody . We're

4:28

going to try to , even though it's going to be

4:30

millions of subscribers in the future but try

4:32

to every subscriber to be able

4:34

to bless them in some way .

4:36

I love that . I love that because you

4:38

don't see that too often

4:40

, especially within the podcast community

4:42

. You see that a lot on

4:44

some type of YouTube

4:47

kind of level or people . That's

4:49

like the one off on TikTok , where it's kind

4:51

of just like a visual thing , not

4:53

saying that their intentions are not pure , but it's

4:56

more on that . So it sounds great

4:58

and it sounds like something that I think the community

5:00

can really benefit from

5:02

as far as the podcast community , because

5:04

we don't have many people doing that .

5:06

Right , right , and it's just something

5:08

that I've watched and I've always had a desire to help . I've

5:10

always I give to those in need

5:12

, it doesn't matter who it is , I mean , you

5:16

know , if I have it , I'm a blessing

5:18

to be a blessing , I'm blessed to be a blessing . So that's

5:20

what I would try , we like to do for

5:22

our community .

5:23

Sounds great . Well , we want to get this

5:25

interview going , so I hope

5:28

you guys heard something that really resonated with

5:30

you , that you would want to go on head

5:32

on over and connect with Bruce . But wait , before

5:34

you go , make sure you keep listening

5:36

to the podcast . So , first things

5:38

first , I wanted to get your insight on a few

5:40

things . Of course , this is an interview , so

5:43

these are just different topics that

5:45

I feel like everyone has their own perspectives

5:47

on . Thank you , my followers

5:49

and my viewers and my listeners listen to me all

5:51

day and I have like this kind of set

5:53

mentality about things . But the reason why I

5:55

do interviews is number one , to create

5:58

a platform or to share my platform

6:00

with other people so that they

6:02

can gain , obviously , of our audience

6:04

or a following or mutual type

6:06

of listeners . But I also think

6:09

that we cannot put certain

6:11

things or certain people in in a box . So

6:14

I feel like here and other perspective from a male

6:16

perspective or even from any

6:18

I'll have different types of people that do it and we

6:20

, of course , bruce and our Journey

6:22

on the podcast is a little bit similar , but

6:24

in the future they may be , there may be

6:26

other people that is not on that same

6:29

path and I just want to give

6:31

people an alternative outlook on

6:33

certain topics or certain ideas , so

6:35

we can kind of get it going . So first things

6:37

first . I just wanted to see , in your opinion

6:40

, what are some things that people can

6:42

do to make sure they're

6:44

living a purposeful life , or Things

6:46

that they don't think they should be

6:49

doing some more . So the things that are contrary

6:51

to popular belief , things that we

6:53

don't really shed too much light on , but

6:56

it's key to living a purposeful

6:58

life or doing things on purpose .

7:01

Yeah . So when it pertains to

7:03

doing things on purpose and what people would do , in

7:05

my opinion that may not be popular

7:08

because of how

7:10

things have Transformed

7:12

over the years , because of what we've

7:14

been introduced to and things such as that

7:16

. You know , even we started out with my

7:19

space and that's all we had , so we weren't really

7:21

exposed to much as Different

7:23

social media platforms as these people

7:26

have today . But I believe one of the things

7:28

is sacrificing when it comes to

7:30

your purpose . People have

7:32

to realize you have to sacrifice somewhere

7:35

. You have to sacrifice like

7:37

you can't . You

7:40

can't have fun all the time and expect

7:42

to save money . You can't go out all

7:44

the time and be like why am I

7:47

? Why is my account negative two hundred dollars

7:49

? But you're trying to save , it just doesn't

7:51

work . You have to sacrifice somewhere , whether

7:53

it's your time , whether it's your money , whether

7:56

it's your space , to be able to

7:59

get to where you're trying to go purposefully

8:01

you know , not just going

8:03

with the flow , but being able to

8:05

Move forward to where you want

8:07

to go . You have to sacrifice .

8:09

That's really good , cuz like okay

8:12

. So when I'm doing this entry , I kind of

8:14

try to predict the

8:17

things that people would say based on how

8:19

they are , who they are , and

8:21

I did not see sacrifice coming . I did not see

8:23

that . That was just like a total blindside

8:25

. But I feel like that was so

8:27

important and that is a great

8:30

point , because a lot of times

8:32

when people think of Purposeful

8:34

living or in a sense reaching

8:36

their goals or reaching that level of

8:38

status or whatever your which

8:40

you define , living in purpose or doing

8:42

it purposefully looks like a

8:44

lot of times people see that as a gaining

8:47

Opportunity , like what am I gaining

8:49

? What am I gaining ? What am I getting ? What am I

8:51

receiving ? I , we're just that type of society

8:54

. We just want to know what's the benefit

8:56

.

8:56

What's the benefit ?

8:57

Okay , if I'm living purpose on purpose , what am I gonna get

8:59

from this ? I'm I'm , I'm gonna be happy . Am I gonna

9:01

have money ? And I'm gonna be successful

9:04

on this level ? I'm gonna have these connections , am I gonna

9:06

? It's just always . Everything is always beneficial

9:09

, right ? So you never think or

9:11

hear People saying

9:13

, okay , well , to be purposefully living

9:16

in your life , you need to sacrifice things

9:18

. You need sacrifice time , you need sacrifice

9:20

money . Sometimes you have to sacrifice

9:22

people . Yes , you do family included

9:24

, friends included . So

9:27

I really like that point . I think that's great

9:29

because , like I said , that's just something that

9:31

people don't Want

9:33

to accept right that sometimes

9:36

you have to let go of things . Some things are

9:38

not meant to be in your life forever . Some people

9:40

aren't meant to be in your life forever , and

9:42

to purposely live you have

9:44

to be able to recognize those things

9:46

and Realize when it's time

9:48

to let something go and when it's time to

9:51

keep things .

9:52

Yeah , and I want to piggyback off of that real quick

9:54

going a little bit more sacrifice . And

9:56

you have to also Sacrifice how it's going to

9:58

look to other people when you're living purposefully so

10:00

you cannot be worried about

10:03

what he and she and they are going to

10:05

say when you know what you have

10:07

Destined for you . You have to

10:09

, you may have to sacrifice how it looks

10:11

to social media , how it looks to those

10:13

who are on the outside not knowing what

10:15

you're doing to try to drive

10:17

yourself to get to your purpose or

10:19

to continue to walk into your purpose . You have to

10:21

not worry about what

10:24

, how people see you when you're in that

10:26

process .

10:26

Bruce said it , not me . If y'all

10:28

want to fight someone , it's not me

10:30

, but no , that's . That's really important

10:32

, especially because and we're mentioning

10:34

social media only because that's

10:37

the type of time where that's we're in that time

10:39

, we're in the social media frenzy

10:41

kind of era yeah

10:43

, and that's just what's in , that's just

10:45

what it is now . Everybody may not accept

10:47

that , but that's what it is . So

10:49

I think the reference in social media is very important

10:52

, because a lot of times and

10:54

I've first person to say

10:57

, I have done it online

10:59

we want things to look a certain

11:01

way , just because we feel like

11:03

we'll be received or certain way . And we spoke

11:05

about this last episode , maybe the episode before

11:07

that about being authentic and

11:10

being yourself and just showing

11:12

up Unapologetically . You

11:14

and whoever get with the wave , they

11:16

ride the wave and the ones who don't , you can drown . No

11:18

, I'm just kidding , I'm just kidding y'all , but

11:20

um , but no , that's just how it is . And

11:23

so I think it's so important to not worry

11:26

about what it looks like . Right

11:28

and worry about what it is right

11:30

. Like what are you really doing in your life

11:32

? How was your life ? How is it really

11:34

? What does that really look like

11:36

for you ? What does it feel like for you

11:38

? How is it for you ? Because

11:41

, at the end of the day , is your life to live and no one else . So

11:43

we spoke about some of those things that were contrary

11:45

to popular belief , that people don't realize you

11:48

may need to do or experience in order

11:50

to live a purposeful life . So

11:52

I wanted to kind of pick your brain

11:54

a little bit more about how

11:57

do you know when you're doing the right

11:59

thing in life . How do you know when you're on that path

12:01

to living a purposeful life or

12:03

you're living in your purpose and you're doing it purposefully

12:06

?

12:07

So I would say my opinion again

12:09

on on on these things when

12:12

it comes to knowing that you're on the right path , living

12:15

or striving towards your purpose or walking

12:17

in your purpose , is that everything

12:19

seems to go wrong . You can't catch up with

12:21

the bills . You just get laid off . Someone just

12:23

passed away that was dear and near to your heart

12:25

. You have issues

12:27

relationship wise and it just doesn't

12:30

seem like you can catch up . You pay , you know

12:32

, robin peter to pay Paul . There's just a whole

12:34

lot of things that are . It's

12:37

just a whole bunch of obstacles in your way and you just

12:39

never seem to could be . It's

12:41

always , but you only have

12:43

seasons for those always

12:45

. Continuous , not a whole

12:47

. Sometimes now I , seasons aren't

12:49

particular now . Usually there are four seasons , as

12:52

we know , but seasons can be a year , seasons

12:54

can be two months and seasons are never

12:56

particularly .

12:58

You know always a set time .

13:00

But that's my opinion in regards to that

13:02

.

13:03

I feel that . I feel that a lot because sometimes

13:05

it's like , once you're on that brink , it's like

13:07

I seen a picture , and

13:10

it was . It

13:13

was a man on top and it was a man on the bottom . They were both digging

13:15

For

13:17

a diamond , or they were digging for

13:19

a treasure first day , or

13:24

maybe they were going one way and one was going the other

13:26

. Whatever , the whole point is , they both were separately digging Right

13:29

and they both were looking for treasure , which

13:31

you can interpret that as their purpose in

13:33

their life . One

13:36

man was digging for a

13:38

very long time apparently they

13:41

both look really tired , sweating or whatever and the picture

13:43

shows him basically giving up . He

13:45

had his back towards where he was

13:47

digging and he had like his little

13:50

whatever shovel down . He

13:54

was walking away from what was the

13:56

direction of the treasure and then the man underneath , you

13:58

know , was still working at it or whatever . But

14:01

when the guy on top , I

14:03

guess , when he was trying to give

14:05

up , like literally was like a

14:08

smidge of dirt , like Not

14:12

even a whole shovel like it , was just like a little

14:14

smidge , and it was the biggest diamond ever

14:17

ever , I mean

14:19

it was huge and it's like that picture

14:22

. I seen that like years ago , but it really spoke to me because it's

14:24

like sometimes , like we're working hard , we're

14:26

sweating , we're going through things in granted

14:28

the picture don't show all this

14:30

, but that's just my interpretation . Like I feel like he went

14:32

through a lot of stuff . He's trying to get to it

14:34

, he's putting in work , he's putting in time , he's missing Events

14:37

or hanging out with friends and family . He

14:39

may have spent a lot of time and money

14:41

and a lot of effort to do this . Um

14:44

, he's probably been bit by some snakes , I

14:46

don't know lots of different stuff . And

14:49

then at that last moment he's like

14:51

okay , this is it , I'm tired , I can't do this anymore

14:53

, I give up right and then

14:56

like his treasure was right there . Right

14:58

, it was literally right there , and it's

15:00

like if he did not have a lot of money Right there , and it's

15:02

like if he did not give up he would

15:04

have , you know , got something major , um

15:07

. And I feel like that's kind of like similar

15:09

to what you're saying Like sometimes you have to go through the

15:11

things to get to where you're trying

15:13

to go , or to get to the other side

15:15

or say , um , and I think

15:17

sometimes on the on the other end

15:19

that sometimes things can

15:21

come into , confirm that you're on the right

15:23

path , um , they're more on the positive

15:25

side and you just come in

15:28

, you're like you know what you need to do this

15:30

. You know this is something we've been doing

15:32

, even with the podcast . I wanted to give up

15:34

on this podcast so many times , so

15:37

many times , and I just can't shake it

15:39

. I can't shake it , um , but

15:42

I just always wanted to give up just

15:45

because it just seemed like every time I would go

15:47

to record something like . It's just something

15:49

like I don't care , I don't care

15:51

, it's just something every time just

15:53

would pop up and I'm just like I

15:56

had my mind set . I was like , yeah , let's

15:58

do this . I have my notes , like I already been

16:00

thinking about this forever long , and

16:02

then it's like something every time , and

16:04

even the times where I would feel like everything's

16:06

going great . Right it's like , right in the

16:08

nick of time , it's like something did

16:10

I'm saying and whoops it all away

16:13

, and Then I

16:15

would post it , and then I would get so

16:17

many not so many , but

16:19

I would get Quite a few people

16:22

that would message me , or they would text

16:24

me and say Thank you , right

16:26

like I really needed that episode . Yeah

16:28

or , oh my gosh , this episode really

16:31

like Grounded me back to reality

16:33

and like made me think about my

16:35

life and it's like some things

16:37

like that . Like , yeah , it's like you feel

16:39

like you're going through , but then that positive thing just

16:41

comes in and it swoops and saves

16:43

the day , and Saves your goals

16:46

, your dreams or whatever you're about to give up on

16:48

, and it really confirms

16:50

for you that hair Maybe

16:52

you are living your purpose on purpose and

16:54

that what you're doing is the right path

16:56

. Even though you're going through Certain

16:58

things , that does not necessarily

17:01

mean that you're not doing what you're supposed to

17:03

do . And then , a lot of times , as believers who say

17:05

, oh the devil , the devil didn't

17:07

this . He made it to her and you

17:10

know it's subjective , did

17:12

he really ? Or are you just

17:14

not being consistent , or are you just not putting

17:16

the time and effort , or are you not in your

17:18

word enough , or are you not ? You know just

17:21

different things that can go into , and it's not

17:23

always the devil , is not always this Karma

17:26

. Or you know , whatever people say , there's all

17:28

types of ways out there that people would like to

17:30

manipulate , sometimes holding ourselves

17:32

.

17:32

Right , right so .

17:33

I definitely agree .

17:36

People have to realize that if

17:38

, if life were easy , if any

17:40

, if , if what you're trying to accomplish

17:42

Were to be easy , if you only see . I

17:45

think they're only about I think

17:47

it was . I saw it on the internet the other day

17:49

. I did some research . I think it's only 1%

17:52

or it's 5% that we only

17:54

have five black billionaires . That's it

17:56

five five percent . It's

17:58

five percent in the you in the world , five

18:00

percent . So if everything was easy

18:02

, that number would be larger . It's

18:05

things that they have to do , is things that

18:07

they have to sacrifice , like we mentioned prior

18:09

, that you just have

18:11

to move forward with in order to get there

18:13

. So you can't see it as oh , you

18:16

know . You know cuz I'm I

18:18

can attest , I've been tired . I used to do my podcast

18:20

. I had stopped for a minute cuz I

18:23

just didn't think it was going anywhere . And then

18:25

I Spoke with Jamie

18:27

. I got in touch with her and

18:29

she told me , I told her the situation

18:31

and she's like , no , you should continue to do it . So we're

18:34

back here . But you have to realize that anything that's worth

18:36

having , you have to put in the time

18:38

and you have to continue to push through

18:40

those things that you know you . You

18:42

know that

18:45

you don't think that you can overcome

18:47

. It just takes time . It really does , but you

18:49

can get past it . It all rain forever . The

18:51

sun don't shine forever . The sun

18:54

look at it like . Look at it like this that I'm done the

18:56

Sun and moon both have their balance

18:59

of how much time that they give

19:01

Every day , whether you're

19:03

in the East Central Pacific cold . You

19:05

know whatever side of you're watching

19:07

this on their time zone . You have

19:09

to look at it as that , that the moon has its

19:12

time , the Sun has its time

19:14

and they both do what they're supposed to do

19:16

in both Time

19:18

frames they both live in their purpose on

19:20

purpose .

19:20

Yeah they will do exactly what they

19:22

were designed and created to do and

19:25

that's how we are , and I feel like sometimes Our

19:31

goals and aspirations , things like that we should treat

19:33

them like a relationship . You know , if you're

19:35

in a relation or if you're in a relationship , you

19:37

got to put in time with that person , you

19:40

got to be intentional , you got to .

19:42

You know take them out on .

19:44

Dave , be consistent . You have to be

19:46

nice , you have to . You know all these different things

19:48

, but then when it comes to our goals , we

19:51

barely want to pick up whatever it is , but

19:53

we want the benefits from it . We

19:56

want to have that relationship with our goals where we're

19:58

successful , but we don't want to put in the work . We

20:00

don't want to communicate with ourselves about what

20:02

it is we're trying to do . We just want to say , hmm , we

20:05

want to be like this or we want to do this and we

20:07

want to get this success Right , but I don't want

20:09

to talk about anything else . I have to go into it because

20:11

that's too much work we don't want to do those things

20:13

. We don't want to put in the time , we don't want to take

20:16

the time out to do the things that we need to do

20:18

that other people may not see . But

20:20

you Right , experiencing them is like

20:22

it's not always a topical . Having a thing like

20:24

everyone's not gonna see just what's on that surface

20:26

, because yours should be putting in work that they don't

20:29

see right . So it's just a lot of things

20:31

. Our goal should just be like a relationship . We should treat

20:33

it just as such .

20:36

Mention relationship . I

20:38

really Think

20:40

that Relationships are really

20:42

important and I agree that you

20:44

have to put in that time . Yes , you

20:47

cannot say I want X , y and

20:49

Z . You can't . You can't want

20:51

a hundred million dollars but

20:53

you have a two dollar mindset

20:55

. It doesn't work . And they

20:57

understand that we've been conditioned to a

20:59

degree of what we are expected

21:02

to do to get there . But

21:04

think about it . Now I'm gonna let , I'm

21:06

gonna get it , because I'm not the host , I'm the guest . If

21:10

you work nine to five for 40 years , you'll

21:12

be a millionaire , but it's gonna be over 40 years and

21:14

it depends on how much you save and what you do with

21:16

the nine to five . You don't do nothing else , you don't invest

21:19

, you don't have a side hustle , you

21:21

just do the 401k and

21:23

that's it . So you have to really think about if

21:25

I want something different , if I want

21:27

to live on purpose , I need to be intentional

21:30

Intentionally . I need to be intentional

21:32

on purpose . I need to be intentional

21:34

on the things that I need to do , things I need to accomplish

21:36

. There were days where I used to

21:38

work for the post office and when I started my podcast

21:40

, I would work from 8 am To

21:43

10 pm , having to do a shoot my

21:45

first guest . We didn't get done shooting until 1 am

21:47

and then it was scheduled to post that Wednesday

21:49

. I really wanted to move forward

21:51

and be successful , to get this information out

21:53

to you all on YouTube , and I sacrificed

21:56

a lot of time , a lot of sleep to

21:58

get that through , but it's because I purposely

22:01

knew what I wanted to do . So just think

22:03

about that . When you're trying to move forward and things

22:05

just keep getting in the way , you just have

22:08

to . Just once again , you don't

22:10

rain forever . When you lay your head down and you

22:12

finish that goal , you would have gotten it done

22:14

. It's better to get

22:16

it done and wish you had . Like they always say

22:18

, I rather have it and not need it .

22:20

They need it and I haven't . That is

22:22

so true , and I know you mentioned a little

22:24

bit about relationships

22:26

, but let's go a little bit deeper , let's

22:28

talk about that . So do you feel like , when

22:31

it comes to living your purpose on

22:33

Purpose or just purposely living

22:35

in general , do you think relationships are

22:37

important ? And if you do , why

22:41

? If you don't , why ?

22:42

so relationships are extremely important

22:45

, very important for

22:48

all of my Bible readers out

22:50

there and those who aren't . We still love

22:52

you , but there's

22:55

. There's because of his friend's

22:57

faith .

22:58

Because of his friends .

23:00

I don't ask me what verse . I ask me what chapter . Y'all know

23:02

who I am . I don't remember . Yeah , find

23:04

it . Just look up that and I promise it'll

23:06

pop it up because of his friend's faith that

23:08

he was able to Restore what

23:11

they wanted to be restored in him . So

23:13

relationships are very important . Your circle is

23:15

very important because your circle

23:17

can either lift you up or drag you down . Your

23:20

circle could either advance you two years

23:22

or can hold you back five . So

23:24

you have to really look

23:26

into what your circle is and who

23:28

is in your circle , and not that they

23:30

have to Give

23:32

you money to move

23:34

forward or Materialistic

23:37

things . It could be encouragement , it could

23:39

be holding you accountable , it could be doing

23:41

the same thing that you're doing making sure

23:43

you get up in the morning , you , you get your wording

23:45

and you do your meditation , you

23:47

exercise , whatever it is . But

23:49

your relationships are important . If you listen

23:52

, there are people I've had in my life

23:54

for a very long time and they're no longer

23:57

here . I have to make those

23:59

decisions because our mindsets

24:01

are not the same . Some people like

24:03

nine to five . I don't knock it , I'm

24:06

still doing nine to five , but not

24:08

always will be doing nine to five . That's

24:10

not my mindset , because when

24:12

you go down that route that

24:14

you get that , that Liberty or

24:16

that freedom to be able to do what you want to do with

24:19

your family , your friends . So , having a

24:21

relationship With , with

24:23

certain people , whether it's your , your girlfriend

24:25

, boyfriend , your wife , your husband , your cousins

24:28

and family , if they don't Accept

24:30

it and you're on the right track , they

24:33

got to go . They have to . You ain't got

24:35

to come cold turkey , but you can gradually

24:37

cut people off . But you people

24:40

have to understand that your circle

24:42

really needs to be

24:45

motivating , needs to be on the same mindset

24:47

, on the same plane as you and , if not

24:49

, you help each other get there . Right

24:51

, and you be careful of those who are

24:54

claiming to be in your circle

24:56

but yet they're screwing holes

24:58

in the boat because they see

25:00

you be successful . Now they have a jealous

25:02

or envy heart , but that's a whole other story .

25:04

They're trying to figure out why you're

25:07

sinking or how you're sinking and things like

25:09

that the whole time is because , yeah

25:11

, people screwing holes in your boat . But

25:14

I definitely agree . I agree 1000%

25:17

and more . Growing

25:19

up my parents always said and specifically

25:21

my mother would say , birds of a feather flock

25:24

together . And I know everybody's

25:26

like oh , my friends are not me and you know

25:28

that's . I don't agree . And I've seen people

25:30

I mean argue people down on the internet

25:32

about it . But

25:34

I have to say I agree . I agree

25:36

that birds of a feather flock together and it could be

25:38

positive .

25:40

Right .

25:40

It does not always have to be negative , it can be positive

25:43

, but nonetheless , either

25:45

you're influencing them or they're

25:47

influencing you .

25:48

Right and you have to see it as this . That's

25:51

it . Look , you have

25:53

to see it as this and I can only talk from my experience . I've

25:58

had myself in situations to where

26:00

I've been the one

26:02

to drag people down , and it's

26:04

not just . And people think , you know

26:06

, y'all use this new thing with this energy

26:08

type thing . I just , I

26:11

just a spirit . I'm not trying

26:13

to be real holy , but I've , I didn't use energy

26:15

growing up , but I understand . But

26:18

when you like , let's just

26:20

say if I wasn't financially good every time

26:22

I would hang around with you . You're going to eventually

26:24

, it's just , it just happens she's going to be like what's

26:27

going on with my finances , what's going on with what I'm

26:29

doing ? You have to really

26:31

look at what you are instilling

26:34

in someone in your life . You

26:36

have to really understand

26:38

that doing what you have

26:40

to do to move forward

26:43

purposefully . It needs

26:45

to be reciprocated in a . It needs to be reciprocated

26:47

the amount of time , energy

26:50

and focus needs to be

26:52

reciprocated in any type of relationship . Every

26:55

since I connected with Jamie , I've even told her hey

26:57

, you know , today I , you know , I hold

26:59

myself accountable when it comes to her

27:01

, when it comes to this podcast that I'm doing and some of

27:03

the things that I've done , because

27:05

why would I do that to her ? No

27:07

, and she's trying to get somewhere and would have

27:09

. You know , we're supposed to be pod , pod podcasters

27:12

and I'm just , I'm just dragging

27:14

along and she's moving forward , but she needs that help . And

27:17

you got to be careful because sometimes people

27:20

won't tell you they need help in the relationship

27:22

. Sometimes that's what you just have to , as

27:24

a friend , as someone that cares . You just

27:26

have to push them forward .

27:28

I'm guilty because I do that a lot . I'm like

27:30

I got it , I got it , and then

27:32

I'm like in the house , like spasming out , but

27:34

no , I agree . I agree with that

27:37

. I believe that

27:39

your friends or your

27:41

circle because it could be family

27:43

or whoever , even your spouse or your

27:46

girl from Bourbon they can be your friends . I

27:49

feel like they

27:52

can be either

27:54

on the same level as you . Like

27:57

you said a little bit before that

27:59

you have the same type of like the drive

28:01

, the motivation and things like that , or

28:04

a new one , a new favorite

28:07

of mine is trying to be

28:09

friend people that are actually where I'm trying

28:11

to go .

28:12

Right .

28:13

I feel like because that shows a sense

28:15

of I got to get

28:17

there .

28:18

Right or .

28:18

I'm trying to get there and also

28:21

helping . How

28:23

did you make your first million ?

28:25

dollars Right .

28:26

What did you do to do all of this ? How

28:29

did you build this successful podcast

28:31

? How did you build this multi-million

28:34

dollar photography company Like ? These

28:37

are the things that I look for , not saying that

28:39

it's always a

28:41

benefit to a relationship , but I mean that

28:43

in a sense , that's what it is . When you even

28:45

get married or , you know , seek

28:48

after somebody to be in a relationship with . Of

28:51

course , you love them and they make look

28:53

good or whatever . At the same

28:55

time , you look . Any mature person we're

28:57

looking say okay , can I build a future

28:59

with this person ?

29:01

Right can .

29:01

I trust this person with my finances ? Can

29:03

I trust this person with , maybe , future

29:05

children to raise them in a way that

29:08

is ethical and For

29:10

our people that are spirited , that spiritually sound

29:12

and things like that ? What would be equally yoked

29:15

and different things like that we have to see

29:17

. So to think about a relationship . Sometimes

29:20

it is about the benefit , but

29:22

not just what you benefit , but also what

29:24

they benefit . So what do you bring to the

29:26

table ? I know this is a big topic

29:28

and amongst a lot of podcasters out there

29:30

, but what do you bring to the table

29:32

? And some people like you know I'm gonna have

29:35

a table and all this other stuff , but

29:37

in a sense , that's exactly what it is

29:39

. Yeah , what do you bring to the table ? And

29:41

because , whatever you're trying to get , what

29:44

can you give right ? It's like a

29:46

like a seesaw yeah you know , as I

29:48

, sometimes you may be down , I'm gonna be up , so

29:50

I'm gonna help you , and vice versa , and we're gonna keep going

29:52

back and forth until we both are like we're

29:55

balanced . We're there , and I think that's

29:57

the goal in the relationship .

29:58

And there's something that you said that trying to

30:00

piggyback off I want to piggyback off of

30:02

is that when it comes to

30:04

, oh , I lost it that quick . Oh

30:07

, guys , it can't

30:09

. When it comes to what did you say ? When

30:12

it comes to your friends , and oh

30:14

, I got it . So , if

30:17

I'm trying to , it's all like you befriending

30:19

the new thing , be friending someone on how you got

30:21

there . If you're the smartest one in the room , how can

30:23

you learn from somebody else ? So

30:25

don't be intimidated by those

30:27

that you'd be friend to get information

30:30

and wisdom On how they got

30:32

there . Don't it is okay to be mentored . They

30:35

have to be a mentee . It's okay to

30:37

have a mentor to get you where you're trying

30:39

to go , because Some things that

30:41

I am also doing outside of podcasts , there

30:43

is not a handbook for it , there's not a book in the

30:45

library , there's not many courses

30:48

on online . I have to start from ground

30:50

zero and establish my own things , and

30:52

so I have a mentor to give me

30:54

that information of what it is that he is doing

30:56

or what he's trying to do . So it's it's

30:58

okay to have somebody smarter than you

31:00

because you're trying to get there . It's okay if they

31:03

guide you . So don't be intimidated

31:05

, don't , don't feel like you be a little in yourself

31:07

by getting a mentor . It's wisdom

31:10

to get someone that is can can help you

31:12

to probably get there two years

31:14

faster Versus five years , because you don't

31:16

have a Mentor , you want to be stubborn and

31:18

want to get out the mood yourself .

31:20

Yeah , and I did a podcast about this

31:22

a while ago . But collaboration

31:24

over competition I know that's like

31:27

a little segue from what we're talking about , but

31:29

basically sometimes people like

31:32

to keep certain people around them or in their circle because

31:34

it allows them to kind of keep that One-up

31:37

mentality , like they're doing better than what

31:39

they actually are . And

31:42

you know it's okay . I feel like once

31:44

we get over our pride and we get over ourselves

31:46

moving forward in relationships , you will

31:49

look at it in another whole view

31:51

or another whole outlook . All

31:53

right , so we Realize

31:56

that relationships are super important when it comes

31:58

to living your purpose on purpose , for purposeful

32:00

living in general . And as

32:02

we wrap up this episode , I just

32:04

want to ask you , bruce , if

32:07

you can give my listeners out there , or

32:09

my viewers out there

32:11

, one thing , that advice , this one , it

32:13

can be Anything , what would

32:16

it be ?

32:18

Give yourself grace to make mistakes and

32:20

to come back from those mistakes . You're

32:23

going to make them . You're not perfect , whether that's in relationship

32:25

for that it's been your finances , whether that's in

32:27

your goals You're trying to accomplish . Give

32:30

yourself grace now . Don't continue to

32:32

give yourself grace to what you give yourself now . No

32:35

, because now it's gonna be an excuse . Bruce

32:37

is not telling the viewers to give yourself excuses

32:40

to not pay your debt off . No

32:42

, give yourself grace because you were united

32:44

. You know better , you do better .

32:46

I love that . I think that's perfect , and I

32:48

have to learn To

32:51

give myself grace . Oh , I'm very hard on myself

32:53

, um , but I think that was great

32:56

. Thank you so much for being here . Thank you for being my

32:58

first interview of the year , first interview

33:00

in a few years , my first

33:02

interview this season , the first of

33:04

many . I

33:07

just love it . Thank you so much .

33:08

Thank you for having me .

33:09

You're welcome . Um , really quick , I did

33:12

want you to just let the people know one more

33:14

time how they can connect with you and where

33:16

they can follow like .

33:18

Okay , so once again , my Instagram

33:20

is the real life , bruce Allen

33:22

, and then my personal page for Facebook

33:24

is Bruce Allen and then I also , because

33:27

it's been a while . I'm not gonna lie to the viewers

33:29

that I haven't been on my YouTube , so I

33:31

can't really tell you to type it in , to go look for it , because

33:33

it will not populate . So I'll probably

33:36

just give that so she can link it in the bio , I

33:38

mean in description . Excuse me , but Instagram

33:40

and Facebook are my two main focus

33:43

.

33:43

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33:45

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