Alan Hirsch and Mark Nelson, co-authors of 'Reframation: Seeing God, People, and Mission Through Re-echanted Frames', join Josh and Laurie in studio to talk about their new book. Alan and Mark believe much of humanity needs a bigger understanding of transcendence, and that a bigger understanding will broaden the Church's evangelistic capacity. Take a listen to learn more.

If you like this episode, join our webinar on September 17th, where our own Andrew McDonald will interview Alan and Mark on a related topic.