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Welcome, um, to the Living the Dream

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podcast with curveball. Um, if

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you believe you can achieve

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Chee Chee. Welcome to the Living the Dream with curveball

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podcast, a show where I

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interview guests that teach,

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motivate, and inspire.

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Today I am joined by Aiden Gabor.

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Aiden is a former associate of a well known

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crime family. He spent years working as

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a confidential informant and helped

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bring corrupt police and politicians

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to justice. So we're going to be talking to him about

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his story and anything that he's up to

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currently. So, Aiden, thank you so much for joining me

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today.

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Thank you for having me on, Curtis. Thank you, sir.

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Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about

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yourself.

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My name is Inga Boar. I started

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off young, um, working for a crew,

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ah, delivering, um, packages, I guess, back. Bring this here,

1:13

pick this up. As I got

1:15

older, uh, I was really big for my

1:17

age. Eddie, which

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he would tell us he had a good. He liked

1:25

me, I guess you can say. And I spurred

1:27

my way up to collecting and

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whatever he needs to do. I

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didn't care. I had to

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beat somebody or do what it took to,

1:39

uh, take care of business, I guess you can

1:41

say. And, uh, as I worked hard,

1:44

I ended up, uh, because of who I associated with. I

1:47

got it. The DOJ decided to come

1:50

up and kind of tell me if you kind of didn't give me a

1:53

choice, that if you didn't help us

1:56

out, that we, uh, would, uh,

1:59

put the Rico laws and all this. At the time, I'm 18

2:02

years old, and I didn't know they were threatening my

2:05

mother. My father, my father

2:08

was. My father was

2:11

an associate with him. And I

2:14

basically, uh, they wanted me to

2:17

basically put a snake in the snake pit. And I ended up,

2:20

when I worked with the guys, I would see the police

2:22

officers, politician bring money to take money from

2:25

or whatever they were bringing in. You could see him at

2:28

the, uh, I guess you want to call

2:31

it the chop shop. But it was also like a little

2:33

social place. And,

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uh, they would be up there all the

2:39

time. And as I got older,

2:42

and then they asked me to

2:45

get information on these guys, and it wasn't one of those.

2:48

I would go in as a, I

2:51

guess, undercover. I went in as an informant. So basically,

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I'm in my own. I don't think they wouldn't give a shit if I got

2:57

hurt or anything happened. At least you told me, something

3:00

goes wrong, you need to figure it out.

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We just need information. And at first, I mean, I

3:05

was really, really, uh,

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um, uh, you know, that's where the conflicting

3:11

warranties came in. You know, I want to say, you

3:14

know, I never said anything. Gets the guys, the crew I ran

3:17

with and all that. Never did anything against them. Um, when

3:20

they did ask, I said, send me Joe, you can f off.

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And I end up, when I started, really was

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like, why am I doing this? And then I realized, no,

3:29

these guys should be out there protecting

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and, you know, doing the right thing.

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That's what they were sworn in to do.

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And I ended up taking a

3:42

bunch of them down. And

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I ended up, uh, finding. Working at a

3:48

casino and I worked with. I found my love, my wife.

3:51

And then from there I spent spirituality, which really,

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I was never a spiritual person. I mean, I used to. I was

3:58

catholic. And I would go into confessional and

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father John would ask me like, hey, um, um,

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you know, hey, what did you do? What bad

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things are they not see nothing, but.

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You gotta be kidding me. And I don't know, but get

4:15

the out of here. We wanna see you. Yeah, I used to

4:17

piss them off and I was

4:20

never. I was really used to joke that I worked for the other

4:23

guy. You know, I would recruit for the other guy because I had no

4:26

religion in me. When I found out the high faith and started reading up

4:29

their eyes meetings because of a friend of mine,

4:32

Sam, and my wife Sabrina, telling me,

4:35

hey, you need to get religion. And growing up, my best

4:38

friend Don, um, would tell me the same thing because he's

4:41

very catholic and I never read the Bible.

4:44

But after reading that spirituality, something just hit me one day. And

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sitting outside in the sun, looking up, I just

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felt a feeling of,

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I, uh, guess, euphoria. Feel like I felt

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warmth, like. And since

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then, I've been following fates and trying to turn my.

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Can't redeem for anything as I've done. But I

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can make the world better going forward. Learned that

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everybody's equal. We all bleed red, and we

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are all equal. Men and women, I don't care. Black,

5:13

white, pink, purple, whatever color, we are all equal.

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We need to understand that and work together and make the

5:19

world a better place.

5:21

Okay, so can

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you say who you worked for? Are you not

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able to disclose that information?

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No, I'm not able to disclose any other

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information. Uh, give me the book. It says names,

5:37

places. And everything has been changed to protect the

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guilty. We all were guilty. Everybody I dealt with,

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there was nobody that was innocent. So to

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protect the guilty and protect my

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family, so others, I don't disclose

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anything.

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So what was the worst thing that, that you

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done? If you can talk about it. What, when you were living that

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type of life?

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Oh, you name it, I've done it. Uh, most time, you know,

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you collect, you know, everybody killed.

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You watch a stupid movie and they would say, hey, you

6:08

know, they would, you know, Fred, they're going to kill you. They're going to do this,

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you know, you know,

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those things. Bad business. No one's going to pay if they're

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not around. So you break a leg here, an arm, a

6:20

finger. Fingers are the best, or even a tow.

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But you would, um, you

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know, uh, you get it and stuff. You know, the

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only time we anything really bad against is other crews

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that they were poaching or. We did have

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some gangs, a lot of gangs in the area, and we would

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work with them, but sometimes we,

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you know, they would try something different that we would

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say we wouldn't do. They would say they wouldn't do. You

6:46

know, Eddie was his biggest thing is no drugs. We

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do not want the drugs. Let the gang banger deal with that. We're going to

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percentage. But sometimes they wouldn't pay. So

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you would have a little disagreement and that's why you worked with all

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the different ones around there. Um, but,

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yeah, you really can't say the worst things I've done,

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but I broke a lot of limbs in my day.

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Okay, so tell us what it was

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like working as an informant. Like, as

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much as you can. Did you have to change your

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identity? Did you have to move or what was

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that like?

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No, I didn't change really anything.

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I wanted to go in this room

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because the people would see me and say, okay,

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what's this? You know, what's this clown doing here? Coming

7:30

here to talk to, you know, be

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a. Be a cop, you know, we know what he did, what shit he was

7:35

into. And I remember

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the commissioner who ended up. I end up putting

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away was a dirty as dirty can be. And he's like,

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hey, you're going to tell the line? I would, sir. Whatever I need

7:46

to do, I will tell the line and a couple guys

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that we know, like, what are you doing in here? What are you up to? I got

7:52

my own shit I'm doing, you know, don't worry about me. I got my

7:55

own thing. But you know what? You just keep yours, I'll

7:58

keep mine, and you will just stay out of each other's way.

8:02

And they would look at me like,

8:05

okay, we have to worry about this

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clown over here. He'll be fine, you know?

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And, uh, you know,

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I would. They would ask me, I'd give information on

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where certain things would happen or if I can get tapes

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or I'd give it to him. Um,

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basically, you know, they want an

8:25

informant that would be able to go round and round. If you do

8:28

certain things and bring them in and you have to testify, you're

8:31

one and done. And they

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don't want that. They wanted everybody. They didn't just want

8:37

one or two guys. They didn't

8:39

want it to talk, but they wanted to top

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down. They want to take the whole pyramid.

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So I got all the information I can get and end up

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putting, uh, several politicians officers

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away.

8:52

Okay, so tell us a little more about your

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faith. I don't want to butcher the name, but the

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baha faith, the baha'I faith.

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Baha'I, uh,

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it's the youngest religion, technically, uh, of

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Dubai in the 1860s.

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He is the only one that ever did

9:12

a miracle. Because everything you hear about miracles,

9:15

messiah that's come down over the

9:17

years, you know, muhammad, Jesus

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and all they've done their miracles, and it's in

9:23

the bible, so. But this is he. Abdul

9:26

Bahai did his with newspapers.

9:29

And his readings is

9:32

different, because if you look at most christian, I'm not

9:34

sure what year

9:38

is.

9:38

I'm a Christian.

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Are you christian? Okay, so in the christian faith,

9:43

the Roman subservient to the

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man, especially, you know, 90 and

9:49

most of them. And in the Baha'I faith, we're

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all equal. Man and woman are equal. And that's where

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I've always thought. But I was never a religious

9:57

person. Not at all. And reading out the Baha'I speak,

10:02

you know, I could never be. I used to get my

10:05

buddy saying, be the best baha'I you can be.

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You'd have to be perfect to be able to baha'I. You have to follow

10:11

everything. You're like, you know, no drinking, no

10:14

swearing. No, you know,

10:16

90% I could do. I still swear. I can't help it.

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I swear like a truck driver. And my,

10:22

uh, wife and I, when we first met, we did a swear jar.

10:25

And my first month, I had $850.

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And to this day, we still

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kind of have nice. Right now I'm at, like, I think this month I'm

10:33

at, uh, like 70 already. But, you know, I'm doing

10:36

better. And

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the faith is everybody's equal.

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I don't care. They don't care how

10:48

race you are or anything, but we all look at the world

10:51

as equal, and I wish the world would look at that when I was not like

10:54

that. And it's just something that made

10:56

me want inside, uh, that feeling, uh,

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the spirituality I never had. And I'm

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so glad I found it. And we do a

11:06

class, which is like a bible class and jewelry

11:08

classes. I do it three times a week. This is

11:12

a, um. Man that never did anything. I was, like

11:15

I said, I joked, I worked with the other guy. I worked with the

11:17

other guy. Nowadays, I work with special needs kids,

11:24

and I work, you know, trying to.

11:26

And, uh, I do everything I can to try and

11:29

make the world a better place, but

11:32

that's kind of behind faith is

11:35

everybody's equal, and we believe in each other.

11:39

Okay, well, in 2020, I was reading your bio.

11:42

It said in 2020, you was diagnosed with

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als. So kind of tell us how

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that's kind of affected your life last three, four

11:50

years.

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You know, it was back in the day, growing up, I

11:57

was diagnosed with no empathy, so I didn't have

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any, like, you know, if I hurt somebody, it sucks

12:03

to be them. They're better than bleeding. And me

12:06

never worried about beating up anyone unless we were family

12:09

or, you know, family. We're very

12:12

close friends, which is family. And,

12:15

um, I got diagnosed with ALS,

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and I didn't care about dying. I was never

12:21

really afraid when I got als. I accepted

12:24

it. But then I realized after

12:26

finding bi faith, I want to live. I want to

12:29

be out there to help as much as I can help.

12:32

And, um, I do everything the doctors tell

12:35

me, and I know what ALS is at that sentence. And again,

12:38

I go back to joking that God's

12:41

got a sense of humor with all this. You know, I was

12:44

cesspool. I was assessable. I did a lot of things.

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And God's repaying me, and he's going to do it

12:50

slowly. And I'm.

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You know what? I get it. I get it.

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And, uh, it's affecting me a lot. But I am

12:59

working every day trying to make the world a better

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place.

13:03

Okay, well, tell the lessons about your

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book where. Where they can get it and what

13:08

they can expect when they read it.

13:11

Well, you can get it. You know, you can get it at Barnes. And we get

13:14

on Amazon, conflicting royalties. Um,

13:17

we go conflictingroyalty.com. You can go

13:20

on there. It tells you all the several sites, Coba and all

13:23

that. Um, and the book reading a

13:26

whole is, I hope, you know,

13:29

people can see that you could 90 degree yourself. You can be

13:35

a bad ass, whatever you want to call

13:38

it. But if you find spirituality, it can help, you know.

13:41

So I want people to understand, you know, that there's somebody

13:44

out there with, uh, police officers

13:46

that, uh, not all bad police officers are bad. When I, you

13:49

know, I went through tomorrow times in the book, and you'll

13:52

read that, uh, I, going through

13:55

everything, convicts and royalties is when I, when,

13:58

you know, you're, you're in a family or crew, you got

14:01

a, you got the La Jolla and

14:04

it's a family

14:07

thing. And, you know, I didn't do anything against them. But when you become a

14:09

police officer, you got that blue line. You don't cross that

14:12

blue line. And I became an alcoholic in

14:15

my younger years when I started doing this really bad. And I

14:18

would put a 357, put a magnum round, um, there, spin it and put it

14:24

to my temple or remain my mouth and pull it. I bet

14:27

you I remember at least 200 times,

14:30

if not more. I mean, I have nightmares with it.

14:33

And it got to be at least 200

14:36

more times. I don't remember because I was such

14:39

in a drunken stupor that, you know, uh, I was

14:45

taking bad police officers. But you're going against

14:48

WIFC, say, Michael with the

14:50

flaming sword coming at me in this hallucinations. And I would,

14:55

you know, I didn't mention, figure these guys should be taken off

14:58

the street and every one or two bad police officers make

15:01

100,000 look bad. And I want people to understand there's

15:04

people out there to take down these bad police officers. Not all police officers

15:07

are bad. They're out there to protect, serve

15:10

and do the good. They're out there. 99% are good guys,

15:15

men and women. And I hope

15:18

that people understand that there's people out there

15:20

understand that. You know what? Spirituality is important. You

15:23

need them in your life. You need to understand you can

15:26

redeem yourself. You can't

15:29

fix everything you've done. You can't. But you're going to obtain,

15:32

you're going to talk. You know, God's going to get

15:35

you and what you've done. He forgives

15:38

you. And just as we go to another

15:41

plane, you gotta make

15:44

yourself better. You gotta work yourself to be better, which I know I'm gonna

15:47

have a lot of work to do. And I just want people to

15:49

understand that the book out there is explained, that you can start

15:52

out as a bad person, but you can change

15:56

and make a world a better place.

15:59

Tell us about any current or upcoming projects that you're

16:02

working on that listeners need to be aware of.

16:05

You know, right now there's nothing here. Everybody jokes that, you know, you

16:08

should, you should do a movie. And I'm thinking, yeah,

16:11

it took a while for me to do the book. My buddy

16:13

Sam, who got me with the

16:16

spirituality, got me with the baha'I faith or grew up

16:19

with. He said that, you

16:22

know, we talked. I said, you know what?

16:25

He said, no. Um, we did this as a therapy. You need to

16:28

do this as a therapy, you know, just to do this.

16:31

And when I went and talked about it, we said he, could you write a

16:33

book? Therapy? And that's how that

16:36

started. Is there anything else? I mean, I got

16:39

nothing right now. Um, I'm sure eventually,

16:42

maybe, but I'm not thinking about that right

16:44

now. I'm thinking that, you know what? People

16:48

can read it. Let's see how it goes. And if they can

16:51

believe in it, and, uh, you can believe in yourself, you can change.

16:57

And that's what I'm hoping you're being out there. But right now, I have

17:00

nothing really in the plans. Possibly another book,

17:03

and I can break this down in three or four different books,

17:05

but, um, I'm not sure what I have

17:08

left. And if I have, you know,

17:11

it took two years just to do this. And a lot of nightmares

17:14

and night terrors. I'm still having them, but it's something

17:17

I need to get out, and I need to

17:20

fix my psyche with that, I guess you could say.

17:24

Okay, well, throw out your contact information so

17:27

listeners can keep up with everything that you're up to.

17:34

We're on Facebook, adengore.com. You got Aidan

17:40

Gabor on Facebook. Um, any of that. So we'll

17:43

have everything in there. Um, and just getting

17:45

a book out. But like I said, convictingroyalty.com is our big one that we have for

17:50

us. And, um,

17:54

that's really it right now. Uh, you got Amazon,

17:57

Barnes, and mobile Cobra, all that. It's on. Um,

18:00

and, you know, you can get the book on

18:02

there.

18:04

Okay. Close this out with some final thoughts. Maybe if that was something

18:07

I forgot to talk about that you would like to touch on, or any final

18:10

thoughts you have for the listeners, like I.

18:12

Said, for listeners, is

18:15

if you read the book, you can believe.

18:18

You can read and see some people

18:21

through some shit, and that, uh, they can

18:24

change. And that means you can change. There's help out there for everybody.

18:27

It may be, but, you know, your local, I don't

18:30

care. It's Catholic, jewish,

18:33

Muslim, whatever. You're somebody out there you can reach out to and

18:36

talk to that they will. They will talk to you, whether

18:39

it's your. Your priest, your rabbi,

18:42

any of that. Uh, you can

18:45

have somebody talk to you that, uh, they're not alone

18:48

and that people have been through some.

18:51

Some stupid shit and some bad shit that

18:53

can change their lives. And you

18:56

could do it. Um, but that's

18:59

really all I have. Do you have anything for me, Curtis? You want

19:02

to ask? Anything you'd like to know?

19:04

Nope. I think we covered it up. I just want to ask the listeners

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And Aidan, thank you so much for joining, uh, me and sharing your

19:31

story.

19:32

You know, Curtis, thank you so much. It was an honor to be on the show.

19:35

And again, thank you,

19:38

sir.

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