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What's going on

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everybody? Welcome into Episode

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31 of lobbing scorchers. This is

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Ari Liljenwall. I got producer

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Noah here with me Noah, say

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what's up to the people

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mid week pod, mid week dub pod.

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And we dub pod.

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We've got a dub pod for you all

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today. And it is a doozy of a

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dub pod only our second one of

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the season. But the Seattle

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Sounders went back to

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Philadelphia, to make up the

0:37

famously rained out match of

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2024. That six minutes of was

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played several weeks ago. And

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then and then shocked. And, man,

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it really popped off. My

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adrenaline is still pumping. I

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can't wait to the pot about this

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one. This is a good board. I'm

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excited to lay it down for you

0:54

guys. So yeah, no, I mean, we

1:00

got a lot to get to on this one.

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and building we are. Anyway,

3:36

let's get into this game. No,

3:36

because this was, this was

3:38

honestly a crazy game, the

3:38

Seattle Sounders they won three

3:42

two over the Philadelphia Union

3:42

at Subaru Park in that makeup

3:45

game. You know, we all have fond

3:45

memories of that game that got

3:49

rained out. I personally will

3:49

always have fond memories of the

3:52

guys with the mops that came

3:52

onto the field and tried to

3:55

clear it off while it was still

3:55

pissing rain. And, you know, I

4:01

appreciated the effort of the

4:01

guys of the mops. But I think it

4:04

was ultimately the only call to

4:04

make this game up a couple of

4:08

weeks later, as they did. And it

4:08

made sense when they did it with

4:12

Seattle already out on the East

4:12

Coast having played DC United on

4:15

Saturday, they pick this one up

4:15

in the sixth minute with a free

4:19

kick. And it really it popped

4:19

off immediately. And you know,

4:25

coming off that DC United game

4:25

where Seattle actually played

4:28

pretty well on offense with with

4:28

10 men and I thought really

4:32

controlled the game for much of

4:32

that second half. They were able

4:36

to carry that over into this

4:36

first half where they scored

4:38

three goals. So I actually but

4:38

before we get into the full game

4:44

recap, there was a couple of

4:44

news items that I forgot to

4:46

mention right there. This news

4:46

dropped before the game Stephen

4:51

Fry's red card from the DC

4:51

United game actually got

4:55

rescinded by the independent

4:55

panel that makes those decisions

5:00

So he is no longer he no longer

5:00

has to pay that fine. Or he and

5:06

he also is no longer suspended

5:06

for a subsequent game. And so I

5:09

think he was actually he's

5:09

eligible for the Galaxy game and

5:12

he was eligible for this

5:12

eligible for this game and

5:14

entities started and goal in

5:14

this game. But I mean, I guess

5:18

let's just talk about that news

5:18

itself real quick. All be

5:21

honest, I was pretty surprised

5:21

and I don't really get it. Like

5:26

I thought that was pretty clear.

5:26

Doxo and like, honestly, never

5:31

even like an appeal or that

5:31

getting overturned, never even

5:35

really entered my mind. Like I

5:35

thought that was just pretty

5:38

done and dusted. So when I saw

5:38

that news hit today on the MLS

5:42

editorial desk, my eyebrows

5:42

raised a little bit, I mean, I

5:45

can I can give you my take on it

5:45

as far as what the rationale

5:49

would be. And the first thing I'll say is like when a red card gets rescinded like this, this

5:51

panel, it has to be a unanimous

5:54

vote, as I understand it. It's

5:54

they're completely independent

5:58

of each other. They don't talk

5:58

about it with one another. It's

6:00

not like a debate panel where

6:00

they break down the play

6:03

together and are like, whoa,

6:03

what do you think and ask? Like

6:06

they they all look at it, and

6:06

view it independently, and they

6:10

all unanimously voted to rescind

6:10

this red card. So I was thinking

6:15

of it like, what could they

6:15

really like? What could they

6:17

have seen on this play that got

6:17

it unanimously overturned? And I

6:22

mean, I think really, the

6:22

rationale must be that when

6:28

there is a ball over the top

6:28

like that into the box and kind

6:31

of free space like that, and the

6:31

goalkeeper is closing down the

6:35

ball and the attacker, the

6:35

goalkeeper, technically does

6:38

have the same right to the spit

6:38

that space that that the

6:42

attacker does. And if you grant

6:42

that Stephen Fry, when he was

6:47

making his downward movement was

6:47

going for the ball where it's

6:51

like a where both players have

6:51

the same right to make a play on

6:55

it. And he was not trying to

6:55

take down Jared Stroud, but make

7:00

a play on the ball, then it is.

7:00

It's not dogs, though. So I

7:06

guess that must be what the

7:06

independent independent panel

7:08

determined. I don't really know

7:08

if I agree. Just because, you

7:14

know, I don't know, I feel I

7:14

don't know if this if this

7:17

matters as to the letter of the

7:17

law, but I feel like when he

7:22

comes off his line there, and

7:22

takes down Jared Stroud, when

7:26

Jared Stroud pretty clearly, I

7:26

did, it seemed pretty clear to

7:29

me that he had them beat and

7:29

then Friday doesn't take him

7:31

down. He's rounding him in

7:31

scoring. And the only reason

7:34

that he didn't round him in

7:34

score was because for I file

7:37

them and took him down. Yeah. I

7:37

think I was surprised to see it.

7:41

Yeah, no, I clearly they saw. I mean, we

7:42

talked about it. And my whole

7:46

point of the whole thing was

7:46

like, it doesn't really matter

7:48

if you got a red card or not

7:48

like that it was a dumb

7:51

decision, regardless, because if

7:51

he doesn't get the red card

7:55

there, that's still probably a

7:55

penalty. And I think that that's

7:58

probably what the board

7:58

considered was like, but the

8:01

thing is, there's no way it

8:01

could be a penalty and not dog.

8:03

So okay, then. Yeah, I have no

8:05

clue. So, like,

8:08

I think, like, they must be

8:08

saying that Frey was trying to

8:11

make a play on the ball,

8:11

therefore, it's not even a foul,

8:14

and that it wouldn't have been a

8:14

penalty and that the red card

8:18

was bogus. And I this, I mean,

8:18

this is kind of another point I

8:21

was going to make on the heels of that, which is it just makes that DCU game like 100 times

8:23

more frustrating. Yeah. Because

8:26

if you grant that he shouldn't

8:26

have been sent off there. And

8:30

that also, like if what I'm

8:30

saying is correct, and that it

8:33

also shouldn't have been a foul

8:33

and a penalty, then, I mean, I

8:37

think the odds that Seattle take

8:37

the result in that game are

8:41

quite high, given how the game

8:41

was going up until that point,

8:44

and they might even they might

8:44

even win that game. I mean, if

8:46

you look at how they played in the first half in this Philly game, like they couldn't be

8:48

coming off a two game swing on

8:52

the east coast where they won

8:52

both games were like, I won't

8:55

like going into this to game

8:55

swing on these coasts. I don't I

8:58

didn't expect them to win either

8:58

of them. So it's definitely it's

9:01

definitely frustrating. But one

9:01

funny thing about it is that he

9:06

still got fined for failure to

9:06

leave the field and a time Yeah,

9:09

saw that I know that they took

9:09

the red card off. And I've

9:12

always thought that this is

9:12

funny that they do this like I

9:14

look at the disciplinary

9:14

committee report every week.

9:16

It's one of the posts that I

9:16

prep and edit, you know, for the

9:19

website. And it's, it's happened

9:19

a lot of times now where they we

9:24

have one post that's like red

9:24

card for so and so rescinded by

9:28

independent review panel. And

9:28

then we have the disciplinary

9:30

committee post that's like,

9:30

fined for failure to read to

9:34

leave the field in a timely

9:34

manner after his red card

9:37

offence, which is another post

9:37

we've also admitted should not

9:40

have been a red card offence. I

9:40

don't really get that like

9:46

you're admitting that that that

9:46

the offense in question like

9:51

Shouldn't you shouldn't have had

9:51

to leave the field in any sort

9:53

of manner at all, let alone a

9:53

timely one. Yeah, you admitted

9:56

that when you rescinded the red

9:56

card, so he's still gonna get

9:58

fined for they got Yeah, I don't

9:58

know, ever get your Beretta

10:02

that's more being broke. That's

10:02

more of like just like a funny

10:07

little thing than anything that

10:07

I'm not pressed about, but like,

10:10

yeah, you got the red card

10:10

descended, still got suspended

10:13

or fined for failure to leave

10:13

the field in a timely manner,

10:16

but he has not suspended for the

10:16

LA Galaxy game on Sunday. And

10:21

then, kind of in that same vein,

10:21

there was also the news that

10:25

Alex rolled on got an extra game

10:25

suspension for his red card

10:28

against the Vancouver Whitecaps,

10:28

which I think we agree is

10:31

deserved. Well, yeah. So he's

10:31

going to be suspended for the

10:34

Galaxy game. And 100% deserved

10:34

honestly, if you gave him

10:38

another game on top of that, I

10:38

wouldn't even argue with it.

10:41

Yeah, that was that was just a

10:41

ridiculously bad challenge, out

10:45

of emotion in frustration, and

10:45

he just like kicked the shit out

10:48

of the guy in the back of the

10:48

leg while he was on a gun while

10:51

he was running. Which I mean,

10:51

that's that's gonna do that.

10:54

Alright, you can't it's that is

10:54

very much against the rules. And

10:58

I mean, it's a dirty play. So

10:58

the fact that he got tagged with

11:01

an extra game on top of that,

11:01

not a surprise, nor is it unfair

11:05

by our estimation, but well but

11:05

but see that was funny because

11:10

he was he was one of the players

11:10

who was on the field for the

11:13

original rained out fair game.

11:13

So he's he's now suspended for

11:18

an extra game on top of this

11:18

suspension that he has he served

11:22

one for served at DC United,

11:22

right. So what exactly so he has

11:27

to do another one he has to do

11:27

another but in the meantime, he

11:29

got to play this makeup. Yeah.

11:29

Against Philly, so it's the

11:35

sound at heart guys have been

11:35

sending some funny tweets about

11:37

this. But this whole thing is

11:37

like the warp in the space time

11:41

continuum. Back to the Future.

11:41

Yeah, we're playing like time

11:44

travel ball with all these like

11:44

red cards and retroactive

11:48

via another funny thing that

11:48

while the I mean, the MLS Apple

11:52

TV commentators were pretty bad

11:52

tonight. But one good bit that

11:54

they did do was talking about

11:54

how this might be the first game

11:58

where there were new rules from

11:58

the start of the game, to now

12:03

because when the game was

12:03

originally started, they didn't

12:06

have these new rules about

12:06

injuries where you have to come

12:09

off for three minutes, and then

12:09

leaving the field of play. There

12:13

were like those three or four

12:13

changes that Lee made. So when

12:17

they started this game, those

12:17

rules were not in effect. And

12:20

then when they continued the

12:20

game, they they were in effect,

12:23

they also had a totally new

12:23

officiating crew

12:25

like since this game took place

12:25

back in time then that those

12:28

rules shouldn't have. Yeah, what

12:28

they were saying. No,

12:31

I yeah, I think they were just

12:31

like, This is why now yeah,

12:34

that's Oh my god, like it's just

12:35

shithouse

12:38

one more match. It's just it's

12:38

all like,

12:42

in what's been kind of just like

12:42

a crazy season this whole thing

12:46

with the makeup game and all the

12:46

red cards,

12:49

a game that shouldn't have been

12:49

started by the way, thank you to

12:51

the scab reps for that one.

12:51

Yeah,

12:54

I mean that I have fond memories

12:54

of the rainbow game. I don't

12:58

regret it. I thought it was a

12:58

great time. And you know, I'm

13:02

always gonna have that picture

13:02

of the guys with the Mavs out on

13:05

the field. Just mopping it up.

13:05

Only to see it just keep raining

13:10

if we ever do something all the

13:10

time. Yeah, we'll put we'll put

13:13

that up framed print. Anyway, let's get into this game now.

13:16

And let's finally get into this

13:18

game. The Seattle Sounders

13:18

scored three goals in the first

13:22

half. So let's just talk about

13:22

these goals do the goal

13:24

breakdowns. That's always fun.

13:24

We haven't gotten to do enough

13:26

of it this season. I guess you

13:26

know, they've scored 13 goals

13:30

now five of those were in one

13:30

game against Montreal though.

13:32

And this first half was I mean,

13:32

it was as good as they've looked

13:37

all season both in terms I think

13:37

of just the eye test, the x g

13:44

and the the finishing product. I

13:44

mean, so the first goal you have

13:50

Rotorua ideas with a long range

13:50

golazo from 50 Some yards out.

13:56

It was terrible defending which

13:56

I saw you were pointing that

13:59

out. No, I do think it is fair

13:59

to point out that it's not like

14:04

they were it was some great

14:04

attacking phase of play that

14:06

generated that opportunity. It

14:06

was rubble taking advantage of a

14:11

severe severe defensive lapse

14:11

punches union Yeah, well,

14:17

controller disconnected like You

14:17

can also like the goalkeeper way

14:21

like was he doing like yeah, he

14:21

was so far, far off his line. So

14:25

like that is totally fair to

14:25

point out but what I will say

14:29

just encountered that is it is

14:29

great awareness by Raul to

14:34

recognize that the goalkeepers

14:34

off his line and line up the

14:37

shot. And it's also it's he

14:37

makes it look easy, but it's not

14:41

easy to hit that shot from that

14:41

distance even on an open net

14:44

with the goalkeeper that far off

14:44

his line. There's a reason that

14:47

goals like that are so rare and

14:47

that most times you see guys

14:50

lined them up like that when

14:50

they think they've caught the

14:52

goalkeeper off. They don't

14:52

convert them. And we've seen Rob

14:56

will do this twice in his career

14:56

now he famously scored the one

14:58

at Austin FC in the game where

14:58

they played like seven teenagers

15:01

and then he subbed on and scored

15:01

that that's one of the best

15:04

goals in sounders history. In my

15:04

opinion, this one wasn't quite

15:07

as sick as that. But it was, it

15:07

was a similar idea. And I think

15:12

you got to give row credit both

15:12

for the awareness in in the

15:16

finish even with the goalkeeper

15:16

that far off his line. And

15:19

that's it. To me, it's just

15:19

another example of why, like, as

15:23

long as he's on this team as a

15:23

DP, like you You ride him as far

15:28

as he's gonna take you because

15:28

he hasn't been getting those

15:32

high percentage looks enough

15:32

this year, but like we see in

15:35

the Montreal game, and now with

15:35

this goal, like he's still got

15:38

that in him sometimes to find

15:38

those goals just kind of out of

15:41

nowhere, when when you don't

15:41

even think that it's going to

15:45

happen. And he did it again in

15:45

this game. And I mean, it was

15:51

like my eyes Bell popped out of

15:51

my head when I saw that goal.

15:54

No, I was not expecting to say

15:54

no, I was and like even when he

15:58

even when the shot left his foot

15:58

it looked good right away. But I

16:02

was just I was confused. I was

16:02

like why is there no one and

16:06

then and then it became like it

16:06

became abundantly clear when

16:11

when it got over the goalkeepers

16:11

head like oh, that's going in

16:13

that's that's the opener like so

16:13

sickle

16:17

Yeah, I was super stoked to see

16:17

him get that I mean like yeah,

16:21

you're right like awareness of

16:21

that opportunity is it's hard

16:25

it's hard to understand that and

16:25

to just have the wherewithal to

16:29

press that especially is really

16:29

great. I know in the postgame

16:32

presser rolled on said that he

16:32

screamed shoot immediately when

16:36

Raul got the ball. So can we can

16:36

we assess an assist? Get an

16:40

assist for the fourth third assist lovers. I'm sure everyone on the field

16:42

as soon as Philly turned the

16:45

ball over, probably looked up

16:45

and saw i i Really i don't know

16:51

the Philly union. They're one of

16:51

the they've been one of the

16:53

better teams in the league for

16:53

the last few years. I think

16:56

they're down bad right now. They

16:56

lost their last home game to

16:59

recall Salt Lake. We talked

16:59

about it on the last show how

17:02

they've been one of the best

17:02

home teams in the league. But

17:05

like for them to get banged on

17:05

like they did in that game and

17:08

then get banged on like they did

17:08

three times in the first half at

17:11

home again in this game. I mean,

17:11

I still think the Philly Union

17:17

are a good team, but damn that I

17:17

mean that was that's pretty that

17:20

was criminal defense. Yeah, it

17:20

was awful. It really was. So but

17:25

us Yato kept taking it to them

17:25

in the aftermath of that first

17:28

goal. And they got their second

17:28

goal not too long after from an

17:33

unlikely source in the form of

17:33

Obed Vargas who lined up with

17:37

Palazzo for his very first MLS

17:37

cool. Congrats to Obed. Great

17:43

shot on that play perfect

17:43

placement goalkeeper didn't

17:46

really have a chance. It was

17:46

really when we're going to talk

17:51

about this more, but it was an

17:51

incredible all around

17:53

performance in the first half by

17:53

Obed. Really all game but

17:57

especially in the first half. I

17:57

mean, I tweeted it, but he

17:59

looked like the best player life

17:59

No, oh yeah, he was I was

18:02

cooking with gas cooking with

18:02

gas more than any sounders

18:06

player has cooked with gas all

18:06

season. He was he was

18:10

everywhere. And what struck me

18:10

most about it was just like,

18:15

just like the fire in the effort

18:15

that he was playing with. And

18:18

really though I would credit the

18:18

whole team for that. In the

18:21

first half. It felt like every

18:21

second ball. Seattle was out

18:25

running them to it. The Count of

18:25

Ross was crazy. Yeah, they're

18:30

pressing was really good. They

18:30

were bodying them off the ball.

18:32

They were they were pouncing on

18:32

giveaways. And they were

18:36

churning in transition. And then

18:36

Obon in particular, just it

18:39

seemed like every time he made a

18:39

challenge, he won the ball back.

18:42

His passing was incredible tonight, he was like, I think one of the

18:44

biggest things too is that he

18:47

would get tackled, go down and

18:47

continue to still retain the

18:53

ball. Like he did this twice

18:53

when he got the box, including

18:56

that assist. He was not

18:56

assessed, but the penalty that

19:00

he won, he got shoved down like

19:00

twice and he still was on the

19:03

ball like he was he was

19:03

ruthless. And

19:05

he did that sequence that you're

19:05

talking about on the penalty,

19:07

which we'll get to in a sec like

19:07

yeah, like he did that like a

19:10

lot. Yeah. And you just you

19:10

couldn't get the ball off him.

19:13

And like this, I'm I'm totally

19:13

willing to call this a breakout

19:19

game because the thing is, I

19:19

would say my kind of critique of

19:23

not just obit but like a lot of

19:23

the Academy kids that have come

19:27

up and I'm sure I'm sure I've

19:27

said this before but it's like

19:29

you know they do a great job of

19:29

holding their own but they

19:33

haven't really been impacting

19:33

games as tangibly as I would

19:37

like to see for like, you know,

19:37

you saw Philly they're famous

19:41

for for turning out their home

19:41

grounds. Their home groans

19:44

impact the game like you saw

19:44

with Jack McGlinn like they were

19:48

down three zero and he scored

19:48

like a goal that got them back

19:51

in the game. And like there's

19:51

like so they're homegrown is

19:54

like do stuff like that with

19:54

regularity and Obed and Atencio

20:00

RBW when he has gotten his

20:00

minutes, although he hasn't

20:02

played as much and has been

20:02

injured this year, but you

20:06

haven't really seen them

20:06

tangibly impact the game, get on

20:09

the stat sheet, make those big

20:09

time plays, as much as you would

20:12

like to see for guys that you're

20:12

starting to give all these MLS

20:15

minutes to Oba did that in this

20:15

game. And it was not just the

20:20

goal, the goal was a was the

20:20

Adjust reward for how well he

20:25

played all game, and especially

20:25

in the first half. And that's

20:30

great to see. And it couldn't

20:30

have big future implications.

20:33

Like if he becomes a player that

20:33

can give you something on the

20:37

stat sheet even like semi

20:37

consistently. And it's playing

20:40

with that passion and that

20:40

energy and that fire, and doing

20:44

doing all that hard work on both

20:44

sides of the ball that could

20:47

help this team a lot. And it

20:47

really like I don't know, I

20:51

don't think they're able to pull

20:51

the result that they did

20:54

tonight, without Oba doing that.

20:54

And for that to come from it was

20:58

kind of it kind of felt like a

20:58

milestone moment to me, man were

21:00

like, yeah, he really like

21:00

arrived in this in this game and

21:03

this moment. And I'm now pretty

21:03

excited to see where that goes

21:09

and what he can do going forward

21:09

here. Because I mean, that goal

21:13

was sick. That was, yeah, it was

21:13

a really nice shot. And he cooks

21:18

really, really all game. I know

21:18

the second half didn't go very

21:20

well. But I thought he's still

21:20

key kept playing well,

21:23

I think he was the best player

21:23

in all three phases of the field

21:26

tonight. Like I'm not even

21:26

either too late either on either

21:28

team, like his willingness to go

21:28

back and be on the final

21:34

defensive line making clearances

21:34

to bail out the defense, which

21:37

was reeling, honestly, and the

21:37

beginning of that second half.

21:42

And his transitional play was

21:42

incredible. And then just being

21:47

there and being a tough body to

21:47

defend in the attack, which

21:51

freed up players like Raul, and

21:51

Jordan to cook, which is exactly

21:56

what we've been talking about.

21:56

And I want to say, people were

21:59

shitting on Obed, a couple of

21:59

weeks back, and I tweeted, I

22:03

said guys, I don't want to hear

22:03

the Obed slander because he's

22:08

talented. And clearly he's

22:08

starting and playing because he

22:12

has something to give. I think

22:12

he showed it to Allah

22:15

all fess up, you know, I

22:15

wouldn't, I wouldn't say I was

22:18

ever abject ly slandering him.

22:18

But like I was, I've been a

22:22

little down on his talk this

22:22

year. I'm gonna tend to over

22:25

I've been attend to over obit

22:25

and I've been I've been critical

22:32

just of the fact that I feel

22:32

like they're I feel like there's

22:35

been more that Obed could give

22:35

based on his talent level that

22:39

he hadn't really been hitting

22:39

which you were right about.

22:42

Yeah. Which I think I think I

22:42

was right about but like, you

22:45

know, this, I'm always happy to

22:45

get proven wrong on it on a tank

22:50

like that. And he did that in

22:50

this game. And like I've really

22:53

liked, I can't, I can't say

22:53

enough about that performance.

22:58

And he was he looked like the

22:58

best book like the best

23:00

godforsaken soccer player I've

23:00

ever seen. And I was like, I

23:04

don't want to go like over the

23:04

top with it. But he was he was

23:07

flat out dominant and like, so

23:07

we'll talk about this next goal

23:10

created by Obed. Like he won

23:10

that penalty. Like you said, in

23:14

a sequence where the guy the guy

23:14

knocks the ball off of them at

23:18

first, but he didn't give up on

23:18

the play. He got up, won it

23:21

back. And then he was about to

23:21

make a run in on goal likely

23:25

create a dangerous opportunity.

23:25

And the Philadelphia defender

23:29

bio, I believe, took him down.

23:29

And Stone Cold PK, and Seattle

23:35

gets their third goal of the

23:35

first half on a roll Panenka.

23:38

Another one, which so he's had

23:38

like four PKS this year, I

23:43

think, and three of them. He's

23:43

Panenka ID. And I feel like it's

23:47

actually it's kind of brilliant,

23:47

because by doing it so often and

23:54

converting every time he's kind

23:54

of, he's creating so much

23:58

uncertainty every time he steps

23:58

to the spot now, they're like,

24:01

Is he really going to do it

24:01

again, there's no way I'm gonna

24:03

dive this time, there's no way

24:03

and then he does it again, and

24:06

he converts it. So now like,

24:06

it's, I legitimately think

24:10

there's like a strategy to this,

24:10

like now goalkeepers are going

24:14

to be even less sure of what

24:14

he's going to do from the spot

24:18

just because he keeps spamming

24:18

these connections. And it's

24:21

worked every time I'm just I'm,

24:21

you know, I'm scared for the

24:24

time that it doesn't work.

24:24

Because a Panenka that doesn't

24:27

work is one of the most brutal

24:27

highlights no demand. But as

24:31

long as they keep going in and

24:31

he keeps these goalkeepers off

24:34

mallets I mean, Scott has been

24:34

winning a lot of penalties this

24:36

year. So he's gonna have to keep

24:36

converting these and just the

24:42

bit know of him doing up and

24:42

like most times he gets up there

24:47

is it's pretty funny to watch

24:47

because you just know the

24:50

goalkeepers like there's no way

24:50

yeah, he's not gonna do it again

24:53

to do it. He's not gonna do it,

24:53

I'm gonna die. He's not gonna do

24:56

it. And so they were showing the

24:56

chart of where I was hit always

24:59

penalty. Is and there was like

24:59

the pinecones, which are like

25:02

right down the middle. And then

25:02

there's the one to, to the like

25:05

the left side where he went for

25:05

one of them. And the goalkeeper

25:09

dives, he thought he was gonna

25:09

go to the opposite side of that,

25:13

and you just put anchors him

25:13

again. So that was that was a

25:18

good little finish. But that

25:18

play was all about open that

25:20

play was all about Obed. And at

25:20

that point the Seattle Sounders

25:24

were flying like I thought. But

25:24

so the one thing I will say is

25:30

we totally forgot to mention

25:30

this, it is entirely possible

25:33

that this Obed breakout that we

25:33

have been gushing over, wouldn't

25:37

have even got to happen, because

25:37

I will be honest, he got pretty

25:40

lucky to not get sent off. Right

25:40

before he scored his goal. He

25:45

they mentioned it on the broadcast quite a bit because they caught it and, and he got

25:47

called for a foul for it. But he

25:51

was jostling with a guy and he,

25:51

he put his arm up and he made

25:55

contact with his face, which in

25:55

a different era of MLS, they

25:58

used to have this like ironclad

25:58

policy that if you do that,

26:00

that's an auto read, I don't

26:00

know if that ever got

26:03

officially, like changed as how

26:03

they told the refs to look at

26:08

the rule or if they just stopped

26:08

enforcing it. But like, I

26:11

remember being really

26:11

frustrated, this was way back in

26:14

like 2014 15. And I think Ozzie

26:14

Alonso got a red card this way

26:18

where his arm came up. And they

26:18

were they were saying it doesn't

26:21

matter. It doesn't matter, even

26:21

if it's like accidental, right?

26:23

Like if your arm goes high, or

26:23

your hand goes high, and you hit

26:26

someone in the face, that's an

26:26

auto red. And guy like guys were

26:29

just getting they would die for

26:29

it, it was a huge problem,

26:32

because guys, were getting these

26:32

kinds of ticky tack red cards

26:36

where they were to accidentally

26:36

barely, barely tap someone in

26:40

the face. And they would get

26:40

sent off. And then there would

26:43

all there's also invariably

26:43

times where it would be like

26:48

clearly accidental to where the

26:48

rat would be like, alright,

26:51

well, I'm just not going to give

26:51

that read this time. Like he

26:53

didn't like mean to hit him in

26:53

the face. And it was just it was

26:55

like no, like, you know, yeah.

26:55

And I remember getting so

26:58

frustrated, because I think Ozzy

26:58

got one for that. And then the

27:02

next week, like someone on

27:02

another team did the exact same

27:07

thing to Seattle. And the ref

27:07

didn't call it a read. And I was

27:10

sitting there. And I was like, I

27:10

mean, you guys said that. That's

27:12

if that's an auto read by by

27:12

that standard, and that guy

27:16

should be sent off right there.

27:16

So but either way, like what

27:20

Obama did, if they had given him

27:20

a read for that, I would have

27:24

been annoyed because it wasn't

27:24

like it didn't seem like

27:26

excessive or violent conduct.

27:26

But I might have had to be like,

27:30

just don't go to his face like

27:30

that man. And you don't even

27:33

have to worry about that. Like,

27:33

yeah, he was playing with fire

27:36

with that. And like, I don't

27:36

think that's a red card, or were

27:41

the offense personally. But like

27:41

that doesn't like matter, you

27:46

know, if you give them I kind of

27:46

I say this all the time, but

27:50

like what, like I did with the

27:50

Jackson Reagan red card against

27:52

the Cavs. But if you give them

27:52

that window with those with

27:55

those offenses, like and then

27:55

you get red carded for it. It's

28:01

kind of your own fault. You just

28:01

you got to not play with fire

28:03

like that. And I thought I

28:03

thought he got lucky. Yeah,

28:06

you're lucky. I don't know, I saw the play a

28:07

couple of times. I don't think I

28:12

will. For one thing I'll say

28:12

this. People love to hate on pro

28:15

referees. But a lot of the work

28:15

that they've done over the last

28:18

few seasons is to kind of look

28:18

at things like that rules like

28:22

that, where they were giving out

28:22

all that ticky tack bullshit,

28:25

and kind of tweak up the rules

28:25

to be more like, alright, like,

28:29

let's let this game go on and

28:29

not be super involved. Does it

28:33

work all the time? No. But I

28:33

feel like that was a great rule

28:37

that they kind of phased out or

28:37

just have stopped enforcing. I

28:41

don't think it was really that

28:41

bad. But maybe I'm just, I mean,

28:45

maybe I'm just like, maybe I'm

28:45

just used to this because like I

28:48

when I played if you know you're

28:48

boxing someone out, I know, he

28:52

looked bad on the broadcast, but

28:52

like, and

28:54

the guy made a meal of it. But

28:54

that's like you're giving you're

28:56

giving them that opportunity to

28:56

like, go like, get you sent off

29:01

right there. So I don't know it

29:01

just like especially with how

29:05

this team's luck has gone with

29:05

respect to these things. Weeks,

29:08

when I saw that I was like, Oh

29:08

my God, they're gonna send that

29:11

it's happened again. And that's

29:11

why I called it what would have

29:13

been on Twitter I call it what

29:13

would have been the most

29:16

infuriating red card in club

29:16

history. And a friend of the pod

29:20

Mark Kastner from Sandy Earhart,

29:20

he replied, and said that I

29:24

wouldn't have even been the most

29:24

infuriating red card in the last

29:27

like two weeks or something,

29:27

which but the ole pendulum point

29:31

taken, but I think the reason

29:31

why it would have infuriated me

29:36

so much was what is in the

29:36

context of it piling on with the

29:41

other infuriating red cards that

29:41

we've seen in the last couple of

29:46

weeks, one of which was

29:46

rescinded. But like, especially

29:50

coming off of a game, where you

29:50

go ahead one zero on the east

29:54

coast on the road, and then you

29:54

completely chalk the vibes and

29:57

chalk the game with a red card

29:57

with So much time left in the

30:01

game if they had done that

30:01

again, no, I would have lost my

30:03

mind, I would have lost my mind.

30:03

And that's sort of why I was

30:06

just like, oh, but don't do

30:06

that. Don't do that. Because if

30:11

he had got an offer out there we

30:11

would have missed one of the

30:14

best breakout young player

30:14

performances I've seen from a

30:17

Seattle sounder you know? So I

30:17

guess learning moment there. I'm

30:22

just gonna say it man like just

30:22

don't go don't go to the face

30:25

like that. Like everyone on the

30:25

Seattle Sounders like that exact

30:29

type of thing. Like, I don't

30:29

think it's a red card worthy

30:31

offense, man. But like there's

30:31

there's realities where that

30:34

gets caught. I'm telling you, man, I've seen that get called Do you get called if I'm in

30:36

disagreement, you do want to, I

30:41

want to see guys like this, or I

30:41

want to see that fight.

30:43

I mean, it's just it's really

30:43

fortunate for Seattle and for

30:49

this podcast, that it didn't

30:49

because he was a truly delight

30:53

to watch the rest of the game

30:53

and got a really good goal. And

30:57

9.1k that got the third goal.

30:57

And that PK that one really,

31:02

that was the difference in the

31:02

game. Yeah. Oh, it did you have

31:05

your little. I was gonna say, yeah, 9.1

31:06

football, right. Yeah, I

31:08

don't know how much stock I put

31:08

in for my ratings. But that

31:10

wouldn't seem that's accurate to me. But I see Messi had

31:11

basically the same last week

31:15

when he scored twice and

31:15

assisted or whatever, you know,

31:18

you're just saying, you know, what you're saying is Obed is as

31:19

good as Messi correct. And that

31:22

is exactly what was also the

31:22

ultimate take that I was gonna

31:25

get to so Okay, okay, well, I

31:25

wasn't actually going to say

31:31

this on the bottom. But now that

31:31

you bring that up, I'll just say

31:33

what I want to say is if is if

31:33

you put like Messi in place of

31:38

Obed with with the exact same

31:38

performance, you'd be like, oh,

31:42

yeah, that's just like a normal

31:42

game. You know, that's just sad.

31:45

Right there. Like, that's how

31:45

good he played, you know, I

31:48

mean, I'm being facetious No,

31:48

and blow up my mentions. No,

31:51

I, I actually, genuinely kind of

31:51

believe that, in a sense,

31:55

though, because it was an

31:55

archetype of messi in a way in a

31:59

way. Can you hear me out? Hear

31:59

me out, you guys can hit my

32:03

mentions like, like, the goals

32:03

in the back of the net that Obed

32:07

hit, but the way that he was

32:07

bodied off, the ball stayed over

32:11

the ball was playing in all

32:11

phases of the game. I'm not

32:15

saying he's messy. I'm not

32:15

saying he's ever going to be

32:17

messy. But I'm saying it was a

32:17

messy ass game and the way that

32:20

he was so dynamic everywhere,

32:20

and just like, owned the field

32:24

and own to the ball when he was

32:24

on it. He

32:26

was he was incredible. He's

32:26

better than Messi. And

32:29

obviously, you can write down

32:29

that, that quote from this

32:32

podcast. I think that's the title. Yeah.

32:36

COVID Vargas, better than Lionel

32:36

Messi. I do have a another bone

32:42

to pick from this game, which is

32:42

that? Okay, so kind of honestly,

32:47

on the exact same line of

32:47

discussion as we were just

32:50

having about oh, beds shot to

32:50

the face. That wasn't a red

32:52

card. Julian Carranza put his

32:52

studs in the back of Christian

32:59

Rodin's calf, in the exact same

32:59

way that Jackson Regan did, and

33:04

got a red card for doing for

33:04

doing that to Scottish messi a

33:08

couple of weeks ago, once he got

33:08

to play the Vancouver Whitecaps

33:11

Carranza did the exact same

33:11

thing to Christian and got a

33:14

yellow. Okay, and so I defended

33:14

the call on popularly I might

33:19

add, when Jackson record got

33:19

that red under kind of just

33:22

this, this is just sort of how I

33:22

look at it. Like when you give

33:24

refs, those opportunities on

33:24

those borderline calls you like,

33:28

can't really be that aggrieved.

33:28

When the outcome goes against

33:32

you, even if you don't think

33:32

it's really that red card worthy

33:35

a play, like what I was saying

33:35

with Ninja When Jackson Reagan

33:38

did it was anytime you go study

33:38

to calf, you open yourself up to

33:43

that call, even if it's an

33:43

inadvertent contact, even if

33:46

it's not necessarily a violent

33:46

play. Even if you think that

33:50

it's it should be more of a

33:50

yellow card challenge, which is

33:53

how I saw the Jackson Reagan

33:53

one. It's just not a smart

33:56

challenge. And even if you do it

33:56

by accident, you just got you

34:00

okay, then you got to accept

34:00

that you're at the mercy of 5050

34:04

Call from the referee in that

34:04

situation. But just to see

34:07

Carranza do the exact same thing

34:07

and get a yellow and not a red

34:11

and then also I can't remember

34:11

which one but another Philly

34:13

player did the same thing. Later

34:13

in the game. It happened twice

34:17

and it might have even happened

34:17

like a third time. I know it

34:19

happened twice for a fact. Like

34:19

there's got it like it's

34:24

ridiculous that Seattle has to

34:24

play an entire game down a man

34:28

in that situation on that call

34:28

and then have there's no

34:32

difference. Like you can look at

34:32

the replays. You can look at the

34:35

screenshots Carranza put studs

34:35

in calf. So and I'm sure that's

34:39

a big thing that the VAR was

34:39

looking at. In the on the

34:44

Jackson Regan challenge was

34:44

like, Okay, we have studied the

34:47

calf year that's a clear cut

34:47

thing that we're looking at is

34:50

the point of contact. There was

34:50

no difference in the point of

34:53

contact on that play that crowns

34:53

are made on robots, so he should

34:58

have been sent off and it

34:58

doesn't really matter? Like, you

35:01

know me, I think maybe

35:01

subconsciously for a referee in

35:04

that situation. They're thinking

35:04

like, it's tough for me to send

35:07

off a guy on a team that's like

35:07

already down three, zero, it

35:10

doesn't matter. Like if a red

35:10

card were the offense, if that's

35:13

how we're calling it based on

35:13

the precedent that was set on

35:17

the Jackson Regan call, you

35:17

know, that should have been a

35:20

red card. I mean, I don't disagree in the

35:22

sense that I would love to see

35:27

that evenly called, but I don't

35:27

really want to see it be a read

35:30

either way. Like, I think that

35:30

there's a very clear difference

35:34

between endangering a player and

35:34

endangering the safety of a

35:40

player or denying a clear goal

35:40

scoring opportunity. Frankly, I

35:44

would just like to see less red

35:44

cards all around, but I mean,

35:48

yeah, like, should it have been

35:48

called a red card? If the

35:50

Jackson Reagan one was upheld as

35:50

a red card? Sure. But like, I'm

35:54

not gonna sit here and complain

35:54

about it personally,

35:58

I am. Because that's really

35:58

annoying to me, when, you know,

36:02

the team that I'm invested in

36:02

uncovered has to play a game

36:06

down a man and then gets the

36:06

exact same thing done to them.

36:09

And then it's just I'm just

36:09

calling consistently, that's all

36:12

like, I like like I said, I

36:12

defended. I defended the call on

36:16

the Jackson Reagan play like I

36:16

can, I could totally see how

36:19

that's a red card. But I was I

36:19

was, you know, I would say I was

36:23

more annoyed than like, maybe as

36:23

angry. Yes, I sounded. But like

36:28

it's, but and then also, you

36:28

know, if it happens one time,

36:31

okay, like whatever happened,

36:31

like two or three times?

36:34

Yeah, I think I think there

36:34

should be a little bit of if

36:37

we're going like black and white studs to

36:38

calf is automatically looked at

36:41

as red card offence, that that

36:41

challenge should have been

36:44

looked at. And also like, just

36:44

like, push back on one point you

36:49

made like that, like it is the

36:49

reason that it's looked at as a

36:52

red card. Offense is because

36:52

that arguably is like really

36:55

endangering the safety of the of

36:55

the opposing player. And I'm

36:58

sure that's part of the

36:58

rationale for that they used for

37:01

calling it a read on Reagan. So anyway, I mean, I think I'm pissed me

37:03

off. Yeah, I think Reagan's was

37:05

a little bit more violent,

37:05

personally. Oh, see, this

37:08

one was even more violent, though. That's what I'm telling you Reagan's was pretty

37:09

inadvertent. And that's why a lot of people thought it was a

37:11

bullshit read. This one. I'm

37:14

pretty sure. Carranza was like,

37:14

looking down and like, like,

37:18

knew what he was doing a little

37:18

bit more. I don't think Reagan

37:20

like actually meant to hit him

37:20

there with his studies. And that

37:25

was sort of the point of the

37:25

controversy is that it was kind

37:28

of an inadvertent contact. I'll

37:28

have to watch the replay again,

37:31

because now I'm, I'm interested

37:31

in it. And I don't know if I'm

37:33

recapping it correctly. No, I

37:33

seem to remember that. Seeing it

37:38

and being like, karatzas

37:38

Challenge is even worse than

37:41

Reagan's because he's, like,

37:41

looking down at it. So yeah,

37:45

I just yeah, I've gotten to the

37:45

point in this season,

37:50

particularly where I just have

37:50

no interest in giving a shit

37:55

about what could have been for

37:55

the other team. Like the

37:58

officiating is never going to be

37:58

even like, I'm just like, yeah,

38:00

yes. Yeah, probably, probably

38:00

should have had all three of

38:03

them sent off. Yeah, that's fair enough, but I still wanted

38:05

to whine about it. I'm here for

38:07

let's get into the second half.

38:07

Because for as, as gushing, as

38:12

we were about the first half,

38:12

the second half went off the

38:15

rails a little bit Seattle got

38:15

really lucky to get out of this

38:18

game with all three points. They

38:18

really, I mean, talk about this,

38:24

rightfully, could have been

38:24

three, three, they are there,

38:27

they arguably could have even

38:27

lost this game. And, you know,

38:30

I'm not gonna be overly negative

38:30

about this. No, it was bad. But

38:35

like, first of all, at this

38:35

point, you just need wins.

38:37

However, you can get them

38:37

there's no style points it does,

38:40

it really truly does not matter

38:40

how they come right now. So they

38:44

got they got the dub, it really

38:44

was not pretty in the second

38:47

half, but they did get it and

38:47

you know, the fact that they

38:51

played really well and scored

38:51

three goals in the first half

38:54

meant that they could they could

38:54

stand a half like that and still

38:59

make it out of there and head

38:59

home with all three of those

39:02

points. So I'm basically what

39:02

I'm saying is I'm not going to

39:07

question a dub or getting to

39:07

record a dub pod at this point

39:10

like even though their their

39:10

game management in the second

39:15

half left a fair amount to be

39:15

desired. Philadelphia Union

39:20

scored two goals in like, like

39:20

two minutes or something it was

39:23

like they were very close

39:23

together to make this 132 I'll

39:28

tell you so the jack McGlinn

39:28

golazo. I can live with that a

39:32

little more in the sense that

39:32

first of all, it was probably

39:35

unrealistic just inherently to

39:35

expect to shut the Philadelphia

39:40

Union out in this game. There

39:40

was zero part of me going into

39:43

this game that expected that

39:43

Seattle would keep a clean sheet

39:46

in this game just because of how

39:46

good and how dynamic on offense

39:49

Philly typically is at home, so

39:49

a the fact that they got on the

39:55

scoresheet at all wasn't

39:55

shocking to me, and also they

39:59

had scored three times in the

39:59

first half, so it didn't feel

40:01

like the worst thing of all

40:01

time, even though it was really

40:05

early in the second half, I

40:05

still felt pretty good being at

40:08

three one and then also, Jack

40:08

McGlinn has arguably the

40:11

sweetest left foot in MLS this

40:11

dude is disgusting. There's a

40:16

reason that like, you've got

40:16

European clubs, some of which

40:20

are reportedly very big European

40:20

clubs. Looking at this guy, the

40:25

Philly union, I mean, if you

40:25

don't watch her, follow them a

40:27

lot. They are known for churning

40:27

kids out like this and he is one

40:32

of the best out of all of them.

40:32

I mean, Jack Lachlan is a big

40:36

one. But you got Brendan and Pax

40:36

and Eric Aronson that also came

40:39

out of the academy. You got

40:39

Quinn Sullivan, who also who

40:43

featured in this game and came

40:43

out of that Academy. You've got

40:47

multiple guys that came out of

40:47

there, like, like Brandon Craig,

40:51

who was really highly touted

40:51

prospect who I think he got loan

40:54

to Austin FC, but like, he was

40:54

really good prospect. And they

40:57

didn't even have a spot for him

40:57

because they have so many of

40:59

these guys, that Daniel Hario is

40:59

they're starting right back. And

41:04

he's also an academy product.

41:04

And then we talked about him on

41:08

a previous show a couple of

41:08

weeks ago, but they have the

41:10

best one out of all of them in

41:10

Queens, younger brother, Vaughn

41:13

Sullivan, who's 14 Who's coming

41:13

up, who literally is going he's

41:16

going to Manchester City when

41:16

you're 18. Yeah, so like, this

41:20

academy is savage. And then then

41:23

Pulisic played for the for the

41:23

whole Yeah, he's from

41:27

that whole scene, like he went

41:27

to brochure Dortmund when he was

41:29

really young. So he, he doesn't,

41:29

they don't really get that much

41:32

credit for him. But like, the

41:32

point is that foundationally

41:36

it's yeah, like it's a very

41:36

talent rich area that we're

41:41

talking about. And kind of, I

41:41

guess my point is, like when

41:45

Jack McGlinn Babs on you with

41:45

that left foot? There ain't a

41:48

whole lot you can do like yeah,

41:48

he's he's does that like, you're

41:52

just like, fair enough. He

41:52

really Yeah. Like, that's how I

41:54

felt at least just because and

41:54

you know, I understand like,

41:56

people who don't watch Philly as

41:56

much might not, they just see

42:01

some 19 year old BAM on them and

42:01

you get pissed off. But I've

42:03

seen Jack McGlinn hit hit those

42:03

a few times. And like it's

42:08

mostly his free kicks. I haven't

42:08

seen him score that many Collazo

42:11

has died from the run of play

42:11

like that. But like he that, oh,

42:15

my god, like just the ball that

42:15

he hits is so nice. And he hit

42:21

it, he hit that one perfectly.

42:21

So I really, I'm not that I was

42:25

not that pressed about that

42:25

goal. I'm not that pressed about

42:28

that goal. I thought that Philly

42:28

was gonna get a goal or two in

42:31

this game. The one that I can't

42:31

live with, is the next one

42:35

scored by Daniel godog. Which

42:35

came? Was it like on the

42:39

kickoff, like pretty much after

42:39

the McGlinn goal, basically,

42:43

basically, immediately. Yeah,

42:43

and that shit has happened too

42:46

many times this year, where they

42:46

kind of just like, melt down

42:50

defensively for whatever period

42:50

of time and it was the quakes

42:55

game, right? Yeah, they gave up

42:55

the they, they tied it and they

42:58

gave up the game winner just

42:58

immediately like to restart

43:01

they're terrible that is that

43:01

can't happen. And like, those

43:05

are moments in the game where

43:05

you have to be able to slow it

43:09

down, take some control of

43:09

things you can't like, if you

43:14

give up another chance after

43:14

that, like that's still bad. But

43:18

like, like to be conceding

43:18

multiple times. Like in that

43:24

close proximity. It's just it's

43:24

criminal defending it really is

43:27

and like the fact that it's

43:27

happened in two different games

43:30

this season and cost them a

43:30

result in one game and nearly

43:34

cost them a result and another

43:34

is just like I mean, I don't

43:38

know what they got to do to cut

43:38

that out. Because I thought I

43:43

thought the performance

43:43

defensively in the first half

43:45

was was good. And then after

43:45

after the gods dog goal, I

43:52

thought that for the most part

43:52

other than the would be

43:56

equalizer that caused the dog

43:56

scored that got ruled offside

43:59

and there's there was a couple

43:59

there's a lot of shaky moments

44:02

in the second half defensively.

44:02

But I did think like you know

44:05

they did well to manage it and

44:05

get out I mean they

44:08

almost give up a goal in the

44:08

first knew who made probably the

44:11

worst pass I've ever seen in my

44:11

life straight to affiliate union

44:14

attacker and only only because I

44:14

think it was saved so like

44:19

Cleveland made a save I'm pretty

44:19

sure it or something like that.

44:21

And that was the entity mean

44:21

Andy tndte I'm sorry, man that's

44:25

even worse. I don't even know my

44:25

own players. But I like what I

44:30

don't think that the defense was

44:30

really that good in the first

44:33

half. I just think that the

44:33

tempo was controlled so well in

44:36

the midfield that like we really

44:36

didn't have to worry about I

44:39

don't know I thought I don't know I saw it a little differently. I thought they

44:41

pretty much cooked and dominated

44:43

the whole first half besides

44:43

maybe that I forgot about that

44:46

early chance off the new pas

44:46

that you were talking about. But

44:49

like I didn't really think

44:49

Philly was was messing with them

44:52

at all in the first half and

44:52

then even I early in the second

44:56

half. I was feeling pretty good

44:56

because Philly came out of the

45:01

locker room looking a little

45:01

desperate, right. And then you

45:03

remember, Rudy Diaz almost made

45:03

it for Seattle. Philly was

45:07

pushing forward super hard. And

45:07

Seattle got a couple really good

45:10

transition looks good buildups.

45:10

And Rui Diaz had a really nice

45:15

look. And then Seattle, Seattle

45:15

got really close to scoring a

45:18

couple of times, like early in

45:18

the second half. And I was like,

45:22

Okay, this actually might not go

45:22

off the rails as I fear it

45:27

might, because Because Philly is

45:27

pushing so hard and looking so

45:30

desperate, it's opening up

45:30

chances for Seattle in

45:33

transition, and they didn't

45:33

convert either the ones they had

45:36

early in the second half, but

45:36

they were good looks. And I was

45:39

hopeful that that would continue

45:39

to manifest. But it didn't. They

45:43

conceded twice. And then really

45:43

like so the after God's dog

45:48

scored the second goal. It

45:48

wasn't all that long. After

45:52

that, he scored again and it got

45:52

waved off for offside. He was

45:56

off, but like not by that much

45:56

like like the Sounders got

45:59

pretty lucky that they didn't

45:59

concede on that play. And then

46:03

also, there's there's they

46:03

conceded a couple other chances

46:06

during the second half as well.

46:06

And then Carranza had one. Like,

46:11

right towards the end, yeah,

46:11

that he had a header that got

46:14

off the post where Seattle was

46:14

arguably a little lucky that

46:18

that didn't go in. So Oh, no,

46:18

this, this could have been a

46:22

three, three or four, three, but

46:22

it wasn't it's a three two dub,

46:26

and the Sounders are, are now

46:26

two, five and three, I believe,

46:32

good for a cool 12th place in

46:32

the Western Conference. But like

46:36

if you look at the standings,

46:36

they're at nine points now. And

46:40

that's only that's literally

46:40

only three off of the night,

46:44

ninth place, St. Louis for the

46:44

last playoff spot in the west

46:47

with so much of the season, left

46:47

to go. If they get on a hot

46:50

runner form, they can get up the

46:50

table and back into the playoff

46:53

mix what exactly their ceiling

46:53

is, should they get back there

46:57

and make it into the playoffs?

46:57

Like is this team a title

46:59

contender? TBD but like they're

46:59

not they're not out of it?

47:04

They're not out of the race is what I'm saying. Everyone makes

47:05

the playoffs? Sorry. Basically.

47:09

I mean, five teams don't and

47:09

based on how Seattle's record

47:11

was looking this year, they were looking like they could be one of those five teams.

47:14

I mean, yeah, like I

47:17

I'm not, I'm not trying to say

47:17

that it's some big

47:19

accomplishment if they do make

47:19

it to the playoffs. I'm just

47:22

saying that like, as it stands

47:22

right now, like, especially with

47:28

this win, like they are they are

47:28

back on the fringes of the mix,

47:33

which with how badly this season

47:33

started. That's like the first

47:37

step to to getting back to

47:37

closer at least to where you

47:41

want to be. And it also what was

47:41

the stat you were telling me

47:44

before we started about how it's

47:44

like not their worst start ever?

47:46

Oh, yeah, officially, this makes

47:46

it not as bad as their 2018

47:51

Start I believe this was a

47:51

Jeremiah ocean legendary moment

47:57

and Sanders Twitter history with

47:57

this when sounders pulled ahead

48:01

of their 10 game points total in

48:01

2018. So this season is no

48:06

longer their worst start ever,

48:06

no longer their worst start

48:09

ever, you know, folks, not

48:09

especially high bar, but they

48:14

cleared it. And you know, if you

48:14

remember what went on to happen

48:18

in that 2018 season, they

48:18

actually ended up rattling off

48:22

one of the hottest runs a form

48:22

that an MLS team has ever had. I

48:26

don't remember exactly what it

48:26

was, but I think it was like

48:29

nine or 10 straight wins. So

48:29

that kind of stuff can happen in

48:33

MLS, I'm not necessarily

48:33

predicting that it's going to

48:36

happen this year, based on the

48:36

larger body of work that we've

48:41

seen thus far. But I don't know

48:41

I feel after this two game road

48:47

swing, I would say I feel

48:47

marginally better about this

48:52

team's prospect compared to what

48:52

I did before the road trip

48:54

started just because, you know,

48:54

I feel like the the DC game got

48:59

wrong, they were playing well,

48:59

and they were ahead and he got

49:02

shocked by a red card that an

49:02

independent review panel said

49:06

shouldn't have happened. I think

49:06

it's decently likely or at least

49:09

possible that they take the dub

49:09

in that game if that red card

49:13

doesn't happen. And then you

49:13

know, for however poorly the

49:18

second half of the Philly game

49:18

went it's still an east coast

49:21

road game against a really good

49:21

team which like you know, so

49:25

when they beat see if Montreal

49:25

five zero, the a lot of big

49:28

narrative was like, well, that

49:28

doesn't really count because you

49:31

have Montreal is terrible. So

49:31

they were just beating up on a

49:33

bad team. Like I don't want to

49:33

hear that about the Philly union

49:35

and Philly Union are like one of

49:35

the best teams in the league

49:38

over the last four or five years

49:38

and hadn't lost that home in two

49:43

years. Like or not in a year.

49:43

Until. Until we eat a monster.

49:50

Yeah, and like the like we

49:50

talked about it. When we were

49:53

previewing it like just like the

49:53

ridiculous stats and the goal

49:55

differential and some of the

49:55

talent like guys dogs, one of

49:59

the best players in the league.

49:59

Carranza has a really good

50:01

productive forward for them.

50:01

They have this army of home

50:05

groans that are all just menaces

50:05

to society. Jack Mullins out

50:09

there with his left foot, just

50:09

bam and set pieces and golazo is

50:13

on it. Like it's tough team,

50:13

right? So like this is for I

50:17

understand and honestly share

50:17

the sentiment of the people that

50:21

are pissed off about how the

50:21

second half went and probably

50:24

are going to use it to degrade

50:24

this team's larger prospects and

50:29

kind of undermine the weight a

50:29

little bit. I don't know, that's

50:31

just I'm gonna I'm gonna choose

50:31

to be a little more hardened

50:36

with it. And I'm just happy that

50:36

they got this done. Like they

50:41

needed it. They scored three MOS

50:41

goals Obed Vargas broke out rawa

50:46

scored a banger. I think there's

50:46

even with that second half to me

50:51

there's more to be happy with

50:51

and encouraged by beating this

50:55

filler union team in their own

50:55

building than there is to be

50:58

pissed off about by how bad the

50:58

defense was in the second half.

51:01

That's how I see it. No, I agree with you on

51:02

literally a majority of that.

51:06

The only thing that I will say

51:06

is that we've been talking a lot

51:10

about personnel and the Sounders

51:10

have in these last two games

51:14

have been put in a very

51:14

interesting position as to who

51:16

they are forced to play, not

51:16

necessarily who their first

51:20

choice is would be and when I

51:20

saw that DC lineup, everyone

51:25

clown me because they were like,

51:25

you think that this ragtag team

51:29

can actually performed well, I

51:29

was like no, I think that they

51:33

can perform better than the

51:33

starting 11 That Brian's been

51:36

putting out majority of the

51:36

weeks and they did until that

51:39

fry REDcard and arguably they

51:39

performed still even better in

51:43

that second half than any team

51:43

they kind of cooked with 10 Men

51:47

that's what I'm saying I want

51:47

you to think about and then the

51:50

same thing is happening here in

51:50

this match where there's there's

51:53

some more starters back in the

51:53

fold but like a majority of

51:58

those starters were the issue I

51:58

mean knew who had a new who game

52:05

like to put it to put oh my god I forgot I just want

52:06

to wait now that you bring that

52:09

up this is one of the funniest

52:09

news moments I've ever seen. So

52:14

there was like a through ball

52:14

that the Union were trying to

52:18

play in down the flank and knew

52:18

who was doing his his shield

52:21

thing off off that he was trying

52:21

to shield the guy off the ball

52:25

and he did his step over routine

52:25

and the funniest part about it

52:30

is like he's that's actually for

52:30

all the slander that Nuhu takes

52:34

he is really that's he's the

52:34

probably the best in the league

52:36

get that like shield Yeah. When

52:36

the goal is to get to win the

52:40

goal kick Yeah, and that's like

52:40

it's been a valuable asset for

52:44

him over the years and part of

52:44

what makes him good on the

52:46

defensive side of the ball. And

52:46

when he did that he put the step

52:50

overs in there for some reason

52:50

but then he didn't realize that

52:53

it was actually off a Seattle

52:53

player so it was a corner kick

52:57

it so he did the whole shield

52:57

step over routine to when Philly

53:02

a corner and then his reaction

53:02

to it was just like oh my God

53:05

knew who like you're You're

53:05

killing me slowly I

53:09

think yeah, no, I think that's

53:09

the perfect description of all

53:12

of the issues of new who is that

53:12

he just has no fucking clue

53:16

what's going on on the rest of

53:16

the field like it's not bad

53:20

players good play yeah it's a good play

53:21

like the movie made to shield

53:24

them off the ball in the step

53:24

over actually had like a point

53:28

that time because it like kept

53:28

the ball away from where the guy

53:31

who was who was trying to make a

53:31

play on it around him and stuff.

53:36

Oh my god just Yeah, I but I mean for all of

53:37

that saying like he's just why

53:43

is he starting still and why is

53:43

he playing a full match? I

53:48

honestly thought he played

53:48

pretty well once. Cody Baker

53:50

came on when they had five in

53:50

the back and they slotted him

53:53

more in and he stayed centrally

53:53

which I'm going to say if you

53:57

want to keep New on this team

53:57

which like valid I totally

54:00

respect that. Why don't why

54:00

don't we start trying him more

54:04

as like a centre back Yeah, no, that's that's been cuz he did

54:06

get some run there. At some

54:11

point during his tenure with his

54:11

team I can't remember exactly

54:13

when it was and I remember the

54:13

returns on that being pretty

54:17

positive and it does seem like

54:17

that's a position that suits his

54:19

skill set a little more. Yeah, and just Just lastly

54:21

quickly I'm also worried about

54:25

why are we not substituting

54:25

players when this is a midweek

54:29

game. We have to play another

54:29

weekend game and then another

54:33

midweek game and then another

54:33

weekend game, like we're getting

54:36

a Paul Rothrock sub for a gas

54:36

gas gas Jordan Morris in the

54:42

90th Minute like what's the

54:42

point?

54:46

Yeah, I mean, I don't know I

54:46

feel like with how weird this

54:49

game was put on the schedule

54:49

with the rain delay in

54:53

everything. And also just how it

54:53

was going with them being ahead

54:59

for Most of the game and you're

54:59

trying to see it out. Maybe it's

55:02

a situation where you're just

55:02

trying to like, grind like how

55:06

through this one and kind of

55:06

empty the tank a little bit, but

55:10

like I don't I don't disagree at

55:10

all that I would have liked to

55:12

see some subs earlier and just

55:12

in general sometimes like, I

55:16

feel like schmetz makes the

55:16

subs. Like we were talking about

55:21

this with with the moose subs.

55:21

Yeah, it's like when you sell on

55:24

moose and the ADA, like what

55:24

time does he have to really cook

55:27

and put his own imprint on the

55:27

game? Yeah, like sometimes, when

55:31

you sub a guy in more like in

55:31

like the 70s or even the 60s,

55:35

then you actually give them some

55:35

time to cook and like those late

55:39

late subs. Guys don't really

55:39

like more like attacking players

55:43

yes is like then, like I can see

55:43

putting on Cody Baker super late

55:47

like that. Sure, especially when

55:47

you're when you're moving to

55:49

five at the back, like you said, but But ya know, like, why are we doing

55:51

that the first sub came in the

55:54

60th minute when root knock came

55:54

on? Came on for two, which like,

55:58

okay, that's fine. But then the

55:58

next sub didn't come until the

56:01

84th minute after they had

56:01

scored two goals in the 57th

56:05

Minute was when it was two,

56:05

three, they were reeling. And

56:09

it's like, Okay, now we're going

56:09

to make a sub and move to five

56:11

in the back and the 84th Minute,

56:11

like, where is it? It takes way

56:16

too long to make these

56:16

decisions. And for that, I'm

56:19

going to say I'm still not up on

56:19

this team. I'm still concerned.

56:23

But they still look kind of sick. Like, honestly, these last two

56:25

games, they were kind of balling

56:27

like, the haters might know. The

56:27

pessimists might not want to

56:31

hear it. But they work on the

56:31

ball in a way except for the

56:35

rescinded red card. And let's

56:35

get to questions. Yeah, and then

56:38

we can preview the galaxy and get out of here. Yeah, let's do it here. Thank

56:39

you all for your questions. We

56:43

always appreciate it. I'm

56:43

honestly just just spitballing

56:47

here so I can pull up this

56:47

tweet. But yeah, how long does

56:52

it take to return to form from a

56:52

broken back? Is it? Is it the

56:57

amount of time between when Obed

56:57

injured it until a couple of

57:00

weeks ago? Like it's Obed? Back?

57:03

That's that's a good point. I

57:03

had totally forgotten that he

57:06

was dealing with that injury for

57:06

he's dealt with quite a quite a

57:10

few injuries in the last couple

57:10

of years. Which is unfortunate

57:14

because yeah, now that I think

57:14

about it that might that's a

57:18

good point and might have kind

57:18

of set his development back a

57:20

little bit because he missed a

57:20

quite a bit of time when he

57:24

could have been getting minutes

57:24

that could have maybe turned him

57:28

into the player that we saw

57:28

tonight sooner. But man, I'm

57:32

just so intrigued to see if this

57:32

is something that he can build

57:36

on and become like a really

57:36

truly like an impact player for

57:40

this team, which he's shown like

57:40

very brief glimpses of it, but

57:44

tonight he like put it together

57:44

for a full game. He was the best

57:47

player on the field dominated

57:47

the first half scored a goal won

57:51

a penalty. I mean, like we

57:51

already set it all but like, you

57:56

can't, like he can't he carried

57:56

the squad and he's 18. So yeah,

58:00

yeah, he's 18 I think that's the

58:00

big key is like, he is 18 years

58:04

old, he still has time to

58:04

develop and grow. But it

58:06

was electrifying man, like it

58:06

was the like, we've talked about

58:10

him in terms of having this

58:10

lofty upside for a long time.

58:13

And really like I kind of I felt

58:13

like we haven't seen it on the

58:17

field. We saw it on the field. And in this game. Yeah, no. And I totally

58:18

love the way that you frame it

58:21

in the sense of like, there's

58:21

there's levels to it, you can

58:25

hold your own, which they've

58:25

been doing. But that minute that

58:28

you start to create change on

58:28

the field, you go from a player

58:33

to okay, this can be a star

58:33

player, which I think is super

58:37

cool. Will this Shut up the

58:37

Smeltzer out crowd Ari,

58:42

um, probably not just because of

58:42

how hard they tried to bottle

58:46

the result in the in the second

58:46

half. But I think if they if

58:51

they string a good run of form

58:51

together, they climb up the

58:55

table, and they look more like

58:55

the team that we all thought

58:58

they could be going into this

58:58

season. Then I think Schmidt

59:02

says Job security will likely

59:02

cease to be as much of a topic

59:06

of conversation but you know,

59:06

this is just one game in the

59:10

midst of a pretty disastrous

59:10

start to the season so I doubt

59:14

that I frankly doubt this does

59:14

all that much to to temper that

59:20

crowd. Although I've never been

59:20

that much in that crowd myself.

59:24

So yeah, we've been pretty vocal about

59:25

this isn't that structure is not

59:28

the problem. But I have to ask,

59:28

Did you see the sign that said

59:33

Seattle invented losing in

59:33

Philly? Well, apparently and

59:38

this is I guess someone asked if

59:38

this was the case, but it's been

59:40

confirmed now. They they took

59:40

the sign down when they were

59:45

losing by three and a half dude. Do you realize how down

59:46

bad you got to be to put that

59:52

banner up and then have to take

59:52

it down in the middle of the

59:55

game. Like that is Oh, I mean

59:55

yeah and we can confirm that

1:00:02

they did in fact take it down

1:00:02

and that is one of the funniest

1:00:06

things I've ever heard like i

1:00:06

That's why you that's why you

1:00:10

probably shouldn't do that like

1:00:10

if your team balls out and yeah

1:00:15

when it looks sick but if you

1:00:15

get bombed on 300 in the first

1:00:20

half you look like a clown so

1:00:20

yeah they got taken down yeah

1:00:28

no that's insane I think that I

1:00:28

thought it was funny honestly

1:00:32

regardless I thought that was a

1:00:32

good bit because like I when you

1:00:35

try and Co Op our own bit of

1:00:35

being like yeah we invent like

1:00:38

if someone said we invented

1:00:38

losing in Philly and they were a

1:00:41

sounders Twitter user that that

1:00:41

post would bash

1:00:43

here's what when leave it up

1:00:43

when you're losing three zero

1:00:47

like stand on it yeah you gotta stand that would

1:00:48

be a good bit yeah, no, I agree.

1:00:53

Does Obed win MLS goal of the

1:00:53

match day for or is it Raul from

1:00:57

downtown? And I'll also add this

1:00:57

do we think Obed wins Player of

1:01:01

the Week? It's it's a good question.

1:01:01

Because they're both very worthy

1:01:08

goal of the it's called goal of

1:01:08

the match day No,

1:01:10

sorry. Sorry. Sorry

1:01:10

mlssoccer.com

1:01:14

They're both very worthy goal of

1:01:14

the match day candidates. And

1:01:20

it's a good debate. I'm

1:01:20

wondering where you stand on it.

1:01:22

I still I kind of lean raw woo

1:01:22

because like those those like

1:01:28

really deep distance goals like

1:01:28

that they're so rare like the

1:01:32

one Obed scored was a six shot

1:01:32

but you see those fairly

1:01:36

regularly like Jack McGlinn

1:01:36

scored one of the things that

1:01:39

pretty much was better Jack

1:01:39

Mullins was a little better so

1:01:42

like but like the I think the

1:01:42

raw one man like that's there's

1:01:46

novelty to that goal you really

1:01:46

don't see those all that often

1:01:49

he's done it twice in his

1:01:49

sounders career now. So that

1:01:53

would be my pick personally but

1:01:53

like I wouldn't argue with

1:01:56

honestly either Obed or or

1:01:56

McGlinn getting getting some

1:02:01

love there. I do think Obed for

1:02:01

player of the match day is a

1:02:05

great shout he I mean there's

1:02:05

probably going to be some very

1:02:09

good individual performances

1:02:09

that he's going to have to go up

1:02:11

against to get that those yeah

1:02:11

well I mean messy but like you

1:02:15

know, they they love giving it

1:02:15

to like Mukhtar Omar and Ricky

1:02:18

booze. Yeah, of course Messi

1:02:18

Suarez gets it like a guy like

1:02:22

Obed I don't think they have the

1:02:22

courage to give it to me call

1:02:26

them out or you have the power i

1:02:26

know i will i I'm gonna I'm

1:02:31

gonna speak my piece on it but

1:02:31

he really like those who know

1:02:37

ball will vote for him because

1:02:37

yeah, that like there is no

1:02:41

player in MLS Messi included

1:02:41

that is going to top that.

1:02:48

Yeah, no, I think I am Raul

1:02:48

though I love

1:02:52

I love the bit of like, praising

1:02:52

him over messy.

1:02:55

Yeah, no, he's like, I tweeted

1:02:58

one of the coolest parts of

1:02:58

having messi in the league as

1:03:00

you can do you can make jokes like yeah, you can make a one to one

1:03:01

you can look at the last time

1:03:04

Messi played Philly and be like

1:03:04

did Messi do this against Philly

1:03:07

I don't think so. You know, so

1:03:07

ya know I'm Obed player of the

1:03:10

match week Rambo goal of the

1:03:10

goal of the match week is that

1:03:14

Raul one was nasty and I love a

1:03:14

long goal. That's like the

1:03:17

sickest shit ever. So Oh,

1:03:20

yeah, like the moment the moment

1:03:20

you can see the goalkeepers

1:03:22

heart sank when the guy hits the

1:03:22

shot over them and you realize

1:03:26

it's going in. Nothing hits quite like the only one that ever hit

1:03:28

better than that, like with

1:03:31

goalkeeper reaction was the

1:03:31

Obafemi Martins goal where he

1:03:37

chipped it basically off the

1:03:37

famous Yeah, the the end line

1:03:41

and it's the San Jose keeper

1:03:41

just like John Boucher. Yeah, I

1:03:45

feel Wilbert. Yeah, well, there was a good shout out about

1:03:46

that one. Well, thank you all for your

1:03:48

questions. Not as many questions

1:03:51

this week because you guys are

1:03:51

cowards because we want Yeah,

1:03:55

exactly. Every time it's an L

1:03:55

pod. I mentioned I put out the

1:03:59

crowdsource the questions and

1:03:59

it's like you have 77 unread

1:04:03

replies. And then after the dub

1:04:03

pod, it's like you have eight

1:04:06

unread like the our download

1:04:06

numbers are gonna be way down

1:04:11

too because they want to but

1:04:11

yeah, exactly. I mean in all

1:04:14

seriousness, like I we do always

1:04:14

appreciate the discussion and

1:04:19

interaction and the engagement

1:04:19

in my mentions and I think it is

1:04:24

probably more due to it being a

1:04:24

Tuesday night Correct. Brain

1:04:28

makeup game then then the result

1:04:28

but Yeah, appreciate you guys

1:04:33

for for the engagement. As

1:04:33

always, let's talk about this LA

1:04:39

Galaxy game and then call it a

1:04:39

wrap for episode 31. That

1:04:42

sounds good. No, sounds amazing. Okay, I mean, I don't really

1:04:43

even have all that much to say

1:04:47

about this game. Other than

1:04:47

that, I mean, the LA Galaxy are

1:04:51

coming off a pretty bad loss to

1:04:51

Austin FC, who are suddenly

1:04:56

looking like a pretty legitimate

1:04:56

team after we cloud on them.

1:05:00

have a fair amount early in the

1:05:00

season but so that's not like a

1:05:05

horrifically bad loss for the

1:05:05

galaxy but it was a pretty bad

1:05:08

loss in that you know, I've been

1:05:08

talking about this galaxy team

1:05:10

like one of the best teams in

1:05:10

the league there certainly have

1:05:13

been my favorite team to watch

1:05:13

this year they, besides maybe

1:05:18

inter Miami, they are electric

1:05:18

on offense their front for a

1:05:21

rookie Puj Gabriele Peck day on

1:05:21

yo village and my favorite

1:05:25

player in MLS Joey paints show

1:05:25

that is as nasty front for as

1:05:30

you will find in this league.

1:05:30

And they win when they when you

1:05:35

guys who haven't watched the

1:05:35

galaxies so far this year. You

1:05:40

will see on Sunday if they start

1:05:40

cooking with gas like when they

1:05:44

start rolling, they start really

1:05:44

reeling and it is like a sight

1:05:48

to behold it's like a snowball

1:05:48

running down you know what it's

1:05:51

like is it's almost like

1:05:51

watching inter Miami when

1:05:55

they're in winter they're like

1:05:55

crazy ballistic zones. This

1:05:59

galaxy team like can hit those

1:05:59

type of gears, especially in

1:06:02

transition and they have a

1:06:02

striker in Jovovich who he we've

1:06:09

been watching the Seattle Sounders strikers flubbed chances getting back to last

1:06:11

year now, Jovovich probably

1:06:15

isn't going to flub those, now,

1:06:15

he, he finishes those. So this

1:06:19

is going to be a really hard

1:06:19

game for especially for a

1:06:23

defense that in this Philly

1:06:23

game, like if they play like

1:06:27

that, like they did in the

1:06:27

second half. Affiliate on

1:06:31

defense, if they play like that

1:06:31

against the galaxy, the galaxy,

1:06:34

you're gonna put like three or

1:06:34

four by him, no problem. And

1:06:37

they'll probably they could cook

1:06:37

more than that. So they need

1:06:40

like Seattle needs to, they

1:06:40

gotta get too long acres, and

1:06:44

they got to tighten that up

1:06:44

because this team is really not

1:06:48

messing around and attack. That

1:06:48

being said, the thing about LA

1:06:52

Galaxy is that their defense is

1:06:52

pretty much like Seattle's in

1:06:56

the second half against Philly

1:06:56

at all times. That's just how

1:07:00

they play defense correct. So

1:07:00

you can score on them and take

1:07:06

results on them. Because they

1:07:06

don't really it is kind of it's

1:07:10

that sort of similar to my inner

1:07:10

Miami to they just the defensive

1:07:14

side of the ball. That's just

1:07:14

not their thing. They don't pay

1:07:17

that much mind to it. If you

1:07:17

want a couple of goals against

1:07:20

them, they're probably going to

1:07:20

give it to you they're at least

1:07:22

going to give you the

1:07:22

opportunities. So I think this

1:07:24

is actually this is lining up to

1:07:24

be a pretty fun game like I

1:07:27

don't think it's going to be a

1:07:27

grinded out 00 type thing where

1:07:31

the opposing team comes into

1:07:31

lumen and they try and bunker

1:07:34

and troll for the 008 no reason

1:07:34

for this galaxy team to do that

1:07:38

at all. Like they have the

1:07:38

personnel and they're in good

1:07:41

enough form their last game

1:07:41

notwithstanding that if I was

1:07:46

Greg Haney and I was coaching

1:07:46

that team, I would never I

1:07:48

wouldn't bunker for anybody. I

1:07:48

would be like fuck you like

1:07:51

we're coming into your building

1:07:51

and we're gonna score we're

1:07:54

going to score three or four

1:07:54

goals because we are just that

1:07:58

good and attack we have one of

1:07:58

the best players. Two of the

1:08:01

best players really in the

1:08:01

league in Ricky Puj and Joey

1:08:04

paints who as I haven't talked

1:08:04

about joy paints enough because

1:08:07

everyone who listens to this pod

1:08:07

knows how much I love Joey

1:08:09

paints. Joey paints is so good.

1:08:09

Like I love I love watching him

1:08:16

play I watch every galaxy game

1:08:16

for an offer Ricky pues or

1:08:20

Gabriele pack or day on yo

1:08:20

village I watched them for Joey

1:08:23

paints yeah King Joe I'd like

1:08:23

what about what have I been

1:08:25

calling him Leo Choo with end product yes correct

1:08:28

yeah it's amazing to watch this

1:08:28

winger when he makes his runs

1:08:34

down the right side either

1:08:34

create a dangerous opportunity

1:08:38

for someone else or or score

1:08:38

himself I mean he's got four

1:08:43

goals four assists, but really

1:08:43

like he's been he's been pretty

1:08:46

unlucky to not have his stat

1:08:46

sheet production be even higher

1:08:50

than that like I've seen him hit

1:08:50

the post a few times. I've seen

1:08:52

him set up guys for sitters and

1:08:52

they've missed him for like he

1:08:55

could literally he could be up

1:08:55

at like more like six goals

1:08:59

eight assists right now based on

1:08:59

how he's played so definitely if

1:09:03

you like watching Good footy man

1:09:03

this galaxy team and attack in

1:09:08

general but specifically Joey

1:09:08

paints I love doing paints

1:09:10

yeah no I'm very excited for

1:09:10

this three three draw at lumen

1:09:14

yield where the Galaxy just

1:09:14

absolutely give up three goals

1:09:17

in the second half after looking

1:09:17

like literal Jesus Christ

1:09:22

Jovovich and Joey pains combined. Yeah,

1:09:22

three goals. Yeah, exactly.

1:09:25

I will be wearing a Joseph

1:09:25

painshill jersey and the crowds

1:09:29

so don't be offended. This

1:09:31

is the most I know no Galaxy

1:09:31

fans probably listen to this

1:09:33

show. But like this is the most

1:09:33

pro Joe he paints pod even more

1:09:37

than the Galaxy pods like yeah,

1:09:37

he's he's my favorite player to

1:09:41

come into MLS in the last like,

1:09:41

couple years, like, you know, I

1:09:44

mean, you could put obviously

1:09:44

the messy thing is like category

1:09:48

but in terms of just like random

1:09:48

DPS that I didn't really know

1:09:51

much about. And then I watched

1:09:51

him I'm like, Holy shit, like

1:09:54

who is this guy like Joey

1:09:54

Payne's is up there. I'm

1:09:57

always a sicko for just watching

1:09:57

random MLS games but like I have

1:10:01

a routine like I always watch

1:10:01

inner Miami always want you know

1:10:06

if there's nothing on I'll just

1:10:06

pick a game but like I

1:10:08

appointment watch LA Galaxy

1:10:08

simply for their attack and like

1:10:12

Joey Paynesville is so cool and

1:10:12

Joey if you are listening right

1:10:17

now, I will Jersey swap with you

1:10:17

please

1:10:20

Joey If Joey pains is listening

1:10:20

to this, please like come as

1:10:25

guest on we can definitely get him on. I

1:10:27

feel like that'd be my dream.

1:10:30

And yeah, I think we can get him

1:10:30

on. Anyway.

1:10:33

That's, that's pretty much all I

1:10:33

have to say and preview for the

1:10:37

Galaxy game. Looking forward to

1:10:37

it. I would say seeing this team

1:10:41

at least play some entertaining

1:10:41

ball over these last two games.

1:10:44

It's given me a little more

1:10:44

juice for the season. It was a

1:10:46

drag it was it was getting like

1:10:46

boring and kind of depressing

1:10:50

for a minute there. But even

1:10:50

though they bungled the DC game

1:10:54

really badly. I feel like

1:10:54

they're playing better ball

1:10:59

right now. And they got this was

1:10:59

a big job that they got in

1:11:02

Philly. And I'm I'm hyped to

1:11:02

watch this Galaxy game because

1:11:06

like Yeah, you were saying like,

1:11:06

Galaxy been in deployment

1:11:09

viewing like 100% Like I watch

1:11:09

all their games. So then playing

1:11:13

Seattle is going to be fun. I'm

1:11:13

going to be there. But I think

1:11:18

with that, we can call it a wrap

1:11:18

for episode 31 of loving

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scorchers thank you everyone

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we haven't heard any reviews in

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St.

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on fraud watch. They were just

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upset about that one.

1:12:22

Hey, we turned out to be right

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about that. Anyway, that's gonna

1:12:26

do it for this show. We'll catch

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