0:00

I am currently in a lake house

0:02

with Lobow , so I am here

0:04

in the US . We've

0:06

been here for the past 19 days

0:09

, so I've been here for Christmas and

0:11

now until New Year as well . It's the first

0:13

time we've met in real life . You

0:15

know what ? It's probably a good idea that we actually do

0:17

a podcast together given that's

0:20

how we met . So

0:22

Cheers , Cheers indeed

0:24

100%

0:31

.

0:31

No , it's good , it's fun to pursue

0:33

this because it's honestly . That's

0:35

the whole premise of my

0:38

belief is that friendship matters

0:40

. That's literally my entire

0:43

concept . So we're friends , we're

0:45

hanging out , we're having a drink , we're on fire .

0:47

That's it .

0:48

That's all it is .

0:50

So the last podcast , at least on your channel , is

0:54

people talking about the stress of Christmas and

0:57

it's just a bunch of people hanging out anyway . But

1:00

it's quite nice the difference of the different podcasts

1:02

, like that for yours .

1:03

Because it fits it does

1:05

, Because I'm

1:07

not here to tell anyone how to do anything

1:10

or to say oh , by the way

1:12

, you have this and I can diagnose this

1:14

and I can tell you why this is happening . All

1:16

I do is just show up and tell you I

1:18

love you and let things out .

1:20

That's literally all it is . Yeah , I

1:22

mean for me it's different . I mean , this

1:24

type of podcast where I'm in

1:26

person is definitely

1:29

different . Well , it's happened once more , once

1:31

before .

1:32

My first one was with gu Barber .

1:35

Where we were on . You've done it a couple of

1:37

times , though haven't you ?

1:38

Twice Mark and Doc f

1:40

?

1:40

Yeah , and that's

1:43

so . The go checks those podcasts out . They are

1:45

in the playlist .

1:48

It's way more difficult because it's interaction

1:50

, instead of staring at a screen where

1:53

it Obviously you have all the technology

1:55

and all this kind of stuff . Now you actually have to

1:57

communicate with a human being . See

1:59

, that thing is no . That thing is no no , I think it's

2:01

a that doesn't bother

2:04

me as much .

2:05

It's genuinely . It's

2:07

a fact that I can't regulate the audio . It's

2:10

more about on a

2:13

face-to-face . On there , I

2:16

have far more control because I don't have , Because

2:18

we're not . Let's be honest anyone

2:20

watching this , this is being done , and any iPhone

2:22

number's out there . It's sort of Samsung right . This

2:25

is literally being recorded on a phone . So

2:27

and last time I did

2:29

it in person , it was recorded on a phone , was

2:31

yours done the same way , or was it Actually

2:34

?

2:34

the first one yes , the second one no ?

2:36

Okay , so you record your phone , you

2:38

record it again , okay , which

2:40

I can do . Yes , but it's a blessing

2:43

thing . It's

2:45

like we're not doing what a lot

2:47

of , because it's like you've got a lot of in-person

2:50

products out there , obviously that

2:52

spend , because it's the only thing they do

2:54

. Thousands and thousands on

2:56

shore mics and they

2:58

have everything there . I think it's more

3:01

difficult for me to that

3:03

can , which I spoke about all the time

3:05

on my podcast , and they have the control taken away

3:07

. So it's just like I have . I can upscale

3:10

some things , but some things I just

3:12

have to rely on that's how it was

3:14

and that kind of fishes me off , but

3:17

isn't that all mental health ? Oh control

3:19

.

3:19

Yes , certainly , Greg . It's all control

3:22

. The second to control is ripped away

3:24

in any slight way . We

3:26

flip the fuck out .

3:27

Yeah , that's why that is , no matter what issue

3:30

it is , oh yeah , and

3:32

that's a massive problem .

3:34

If you're in a relationship , if you have friends , if

3:37

they take away control for you , you're

3:39

like well , what the fuck just

3:41

?

3:41

Yeah , I'm not Because everything was going great

3:43

.

3:44

I was going . What was it before ? Right like .

3:47

This is the funny thing , because your big

3:49

thing with me a lot is that you know I have

3:51

the answers to questions and things like that . Yeah , but I have

3:54

to say this to you before Like I got told years

3:56

ago by someone I knew who's a

3:59

trans-sacrifice and

4:01

psychologist , that I was the biggest control

4:03

freak he's ever known . Right , because

4:06

when I get into a conversation , if I didn't know the answer , I'd

4:08

go away and learn it inside out or do

4:10

a qualification in it , right ? So that's why I end

4:12

up knowing things . It's probably because at some point

4:14

I knew fuck all about it . I was

4:16

like , no , I can't . No , no

4:18

, can't do that . It's like I

4:21

think what it is . It's a more extreme version of Joey's from Friends . There's

4:23

an episode of Friends

4:26

where Joey is Pendulette

4:29

, the magician . Pendulette is his

4:31

only cameo , I think , in Friends

4:33

and he comes in and is trying to sell him

4:35

in psychopedias and he talks

4:38

about the fact of like , have there been situations

4:40

when your friends are talking where you

4:42

haven't known what they're talking about , and it's like that's

4:44

what it is for me . It's like I didn't

4:47

know that that's never happening again

4:49

, right ?

4:52

That can be a good thing is

4:54

when you realize like I'm never going to let that happen again

4:56

.

4:56

I need to know this .

4:59

I think it's probably because of how much talk it's

5:01

is . It happens to me Clearly

5:03

what happened is ?

5:04

it happened to God damn much for me . When I was younger , when

5:06

I was a kid , I played

5:08

a big fuck .

5:09

all it's fun for me on this

5:11

podcast actually is to be in real

5:13

life Like

5:15

. This is the most relaxed I could be . When

5:18

you get me on a fucking Zoom call and I'm worried about

5:20

Wi-Fi and all this kind of shit , I'm panicking . I'm

5:22

doing all those things right now . I'm comfortable with

5:24

shit .

5:26

And this is why people think you're so much older than me .

5:28

We're basically the

5:30

same age by the way .

5:32

I know some of you are now putting your glasses on the check , but

5:35

I'm

5:37

a lot more weathered .

5:38

Okay , you can say that .

5:41

Clearly I was wearing moisturizer when I was on the streets . I don't

5:43

know what the fuck happened .

5:44

Oh Jesus , yeah , I mean I don't

5:47

know , I

5:50

just feel more .

5:51

But then I'm far more reclusive , right

5:54

. So I'm , and I

5:56

mean during the lockdown I

5:58

completely went online

6:00

. Yeah , so like immediately went online and

6:02

I suppose I caught myself all of that immediately

6:06

and I'd be doing computers since I

6:08

was like secondary school , right , so

6:11

I guess I just I could speed up to the

6:13

to that quicker . Yeah

6:15

, that's why I'm like , yeah , I can do this , Because

6:18

I was on , I was on calls from like dang it , I

6:21

mean as soon as it was comfortable .

6:22

it's comfortable to have that separation when

6:25

, if it's online , you're

6:27

not entirely obligated

6:30

to that scenario . So there's

6:32

no risk of you

6:35

know this person cares about me . I can't

6:37

you know I could upset

6:39

them . I could not upset

6:41

them . You know , if I make a

6:43

mistake I can apologize . They can accept

6:46

the apology . That online

6:48

there's a screen that separates you

6:50

. I think it's making it nice that I am

6:52

. I don't think I'll give a fuck . I think you're

6:54

the nicest fucking loving person I've ever met

6:56

.

6:59

Instead of earlier , when we don't diagnose delusion

7:01

, that's when . There's

7:04

disorders .

7:04

I'm sure some of you've been through . There's a certain

7:06

great point to this is when

7:09

you're separated by a screen . That

7:11

isn't real life . Until it is

7:13

real life , oh

7:15

I see , it's

7:18

just not a still real life thing ? Well

7:21

, it is , but until you actually

7:23

meet that person face to face , you

7:26

don't really know .

7:28

You do sound like someone's granddad now .

7:30

Because I think , hey , where's the border ? I'm a granddad

7:33

, okay .

7:35

Probably the right age for a granddad in Florida . I

7:39

think it's more about . So

7:42

for me , there's no difference to

7:44

me at all between in

7:48

real life and online , especially

7:51

after lockdown . I mean , there's people

7:53

who basically started relationships and

7:55

they have become married because of it . You

7:57

don't Right , but

7:59

it's a bit In the same way . If

8:02

you're going to use that as a qualifier , I'd say the same argument

8:04

can be had for people that are in a relationship but

8:06

they don't know until they live together . If

8:08

we use that qualifier , I'll agree with that , okay

8:10

.

8:11

So my point to that is you

8:13

do make a good point . It is real . However

8:16

, that's also like saying that you

8:18

know if you

8:21

get into a relationship online with

8:23

no woman or whoever your

8:25

preferred partner is and

8:27

all that it's not the same

8:29

as having sex in real life .

8:32

But then what if it's ? But

8:35

that's not what we're talking about .

8:36

Well , if you need someone in real life , it is way

8:38

different than seeing them on screen . That

8:41

is like . So , Pamela Anderson I was a huge fan

8:43

. Okay , Huge fan , I

8:45

mean I love her . I think she's hot as

8:47

Hot as shit . But I

8:50

mean she's way different from me staring at

8:52

her on her computer screen and then having her

8:54

sit here in front of me . You've got

8:56

to understand that sexual tension .

8:58

That's different what . I'm saying is Nah

9:00

, that's reality versus

9:02

that's . Sexual tension versus real

9:04

life sexual tension that's not the same . What I'm

9:06

saying is you're being very

9:09

specific about

9:11

almost sexualized versions of it

9:13

in real life .

9:14

Well that's exactly the only option that

9:16

I can see as a .

9:18

I'm not sleeping at any level . Okay , I'm

9:20

just saying .

9:24

What I'm saying is that's why my wife gets us .

9:27

What I'm saying is if you have so

9:30

if you have someone that you , let's

9:32

say you have someone that's I

9:34

don't know , you go to the pub every day , right English

9:37

? Yes , if you go to pub every day

9:39

and you meet someone , you say hello , end of the bar

9:41

, you know , and

9:43

there's no fucking hugging , there's no

9:45

you have the same language as the set of you

9:47

.

9:48

No , like , for example , the pub

9:50

, maybe in the north of .

9:51

England , but not in

9:53

the south of England . You went up to someone and you're like

9:55

you're all right , you probably get punched . So

9:58

I mean it's very

10:00

different .

10:01

So that was the only example I

10:03

can think of as separating it

10:05

up the future real life from

10:08

the actual real life . That was my only

10:10

example .

10:14

To me , the only qualifier I agree

10:16

with to me is if , like

10:18

I said , if you have friends or

10:20

a relationship that you wait

10:23

from oh , we've been together since my first

10:25

time to now , we live together

10:27

and so many people suddenly

10:30

go oh , my god , I fucking hate you

10:32

Because it's gone from . Oh , you

10:34

know , we saw each other every day , every other day

10:36

, right , and now I have to actually see what you're

10:38

like Like .

10:39

No , no , that fair , okay

10:41

, that could be , and I think that that's

10:43

a huge qualifier

10:46

in terms of like . Who you want to actually

10:48

, you know , devote

10:51

a lot of time to is someone , whether

10:53

it's a friend , a lover , a wife , girlfriend

10:56

, whoever it is . If you can

10:58

get to know that person on an actual

11:00

level , then you know it's , it's

11:02

worth your time .

11:04

But and so that would be the

11:06

online first Right

11:08

. No , no .

11:08

I'm not saying online I was qualified

11:11

, not correctly what I mean is like

11:17

you are every bit of yourself

11:19

in real life as you are online , and I

11:22

know that now . Well

11:24

, when

11:27

you meet someone in real life like I did , Leo

11:29

, they're the exact same .

11:30

Look at the playlist , but all of the what's up with that .

11:35

Promotion You're always promoting .

11:38

And now meeting you .

11:39

You're saying too , and so

11:42

that gives me comfort to go online again

11:44

and say you know what I want to talk to this person

11:46

and you know what I want to fucking meet that person .

11:48

But does that not just go against the point

11:50

you just made ?

11:51

Yes , it does , but that's what

11:53

I do .

11:54

I go get my , you all get yourself , I get myself , yes

11:56

, yes absolutely A percent of the time because

11:58

it lies .

11:59

I can argue with myself , I can't argue

12:01

with anyone else , let's fuck it .

12:03

Just use the line that I taught you no

12:05

, no , no . No

12:08

, no , that was brilliant Now in the

12:10

argument against yourself , so that you

12:12

can know you're an originally one .

12:14

Anyway , I know that I got into it all I sort

12:16

it , sort it .

12:17

The only thing he's remembered in a while . He thought

12:19

it was the line . That's why , yeah

12:23

, online friendships and online whatever

12:26

. I think if we'd have , come back .

12:28

Oh and Dave , sorry Dave , my dick went down here

12:30

. It is time , once again , to

12:32

thank this podcast's

12:34

biggest supporters . Without

12:37

you Okay

12:41

, yeah

12:43

, I'm trying to do two things at once here here

12:47

, hey Santa Without you , this

12:49

podcast does not exist . So

12:52

thank you , leo Guynam , thank

12:55

you Kirk Hofstrom , thank

12:57

you Casey Elliott , thank you Sarah

12:59

Delano , thank you Justin Allingham

13:02

, thank you Blush and Crafter , thank

13:04

you Jamie Young and thank you , beth

13:06

Jones . Without y'all

13:08

, this podcast cannot exist

13:10

.

13:14

And again the same . It's all of the e-mics

13:16

on the cameras . Guys just saying and

13:19

so am I Well anyone that thinks I'm like five

13:21

, six , anyone that still watches me from Twitch

13:23

. We've got some of you . Thank you , it's

13:25

good to know the 100 little wood is still

13:28

around , so thank you very much . If you are watching this , say

13:30

hi , I am six too . Okay

13:33

, actually , stand up , let's

13:35

go . I am not

13:37

fucking sure , all right , okay

13:40

, good , I'm glad either .

13:41

Yeah .

13:44

Yeah , it's like no , I'm not six , but this one is . But

13:46

, yeah , so I am not as a

13:48

small little bit , but

13:51

yeah , it's interesting . I think . If you went back five

13:54

, 10 years , I think it's very

13:56

different because people

13:59

didn't use the internet and online

14:01

as saying right , even like

14:03

it wasn't the same . I think Zoom

14:05

and , to a lesser extent

14:08

, skype , I think because

14:10

of COVID , has completely changed how

14:12

we use and Twitch being

14:14

live streaming , it's just

14:16

. It really changes how

14:19

we interact because we

14:22

are more , we're

14:24

more just

14:26

chatting to someone now . Yeah , rather

14:28

than the past . Well , I think it was a lot different

14:31

.

14:31

It's good to talk If you're on my

14:34

podcast tonight .

14:35

If you're in his podcast , go and check out his good stuff podcast

14:38

it will be

14:40

in the link below .

14:41

But it's a brilliant title . It's good to talk . That

14:44

title alone is

14:46

what I feel , is the most important

14:49

thing . It's efficient . Talk

14:51

to each other . Don't try to save

14:54

each other , just try to be

14:56

there If anyone wants to use

14:59

YouTube .

15:00

If you get it as a channel , I will subscribe because

15:02

YouTube's really good at swearing and built

15:04

fucking free .

15:07

But I mean , both of us hide behind certain things

15:09

. I hide behind the fact

15:12

that you know I'm still not

15:14

over that issue from

15:16

a couple years back and now I'm killing

15:19

myself . You know helping

15:21

. If you hide behind the

15:24

fact that , in my opinion , that

15:27

people can't love me , I'm

15:30

amazing , but he won't admit it

15:33

. I will not admit it

15:36

and that's the hardest thing . So

15:39

did you , but you're not getting it

15:41

wrong , I mean , I mean .

15:46

I'm not fucking fool .

15:49

Yeah , everyone hides behind something , Well

15:52

, everyone presents .

15:53

I mean , I've said this a lot , no matter

15:55

who you are

15:57

, everyone kind of masks to a

15:59

point anyway . Yeah , and even if they

16:01

like as well . I've always hated this . Oh

16:04

, I'm the same person in your life as I am online . No

16:06

, you're not , and I just you're

16:08

not because you may

16:11

seem and there may be a lot of it

16:13

, but that may also

16:15

mean that anybody else you mask the same way

16:17

, and I think when

16:20

people hear me say that they take it the wrong way . If

16:23

you go to the shop , you will

16:25

give a persona

16:27

to that person at the shop , differently

16:30

than you give to the barman

16:32

at the pub you go

16:34

to , to your I

16:37

don't know your bookie , to

16:39

your friends you

16:41

give a different face , and so this

16:44

idea of like I'll know everything

16:46

that I give out online is nice

16:48

. That's the point

16:50

. I've heard that one .

16:51

It's not making . Yeah , I've heard that one . Everything

16:54

you put out online is a face

16:57

. The face isn't real .

16:59

No , but the face to face

17:01

isn't real either .

17:04

Okay , good point that give up on this topic

17:06

.

17:07

The thing in real life is

17:09

can be just as the

17:12

thing is , is that . What I hate is to call

17:14

it because it's not fake , and I know that's what people will

17:16

say is , oh , you're just saying online is fake

17:18

, then , or you put the face forward

17:20

. But that's also the argument that every

17:23

neurotypical puts against neurodivergent

17:25

. Correct Masking doesn't mean fake

17:27

. It just means that it's the

17:29

easiest way for you to interact with

17:31

that community , that social

17:33

event , because that's the best

17:35

way that your mind can cope with it .

17:37

Correct . However

17:41

, as much as it might be an impossible

17:43

goal , I like impossible

17:46

, so I'm going

17:48

to meet everyone that I've spoken

17:52

with in real life

17:54

. Yeah , I mean like

17:56

if I tell you online on a zoom call

17:58

on a thing . Hey , by the

18:00

way , you have ADHD , you have autism , you have OCD

18:02

, you have this and you're struggling . Sit

18:06

there with you , and I will

18:08

sit there with you in real life also .

18:11

Yeah .

18:11

I don't have issues .

18:12

I think the thing is the thing we need

18:14

to think is that the

18:18

online thing . We

18:21

don't need to think of it as fake or

18:23

fake personas , because I think a lot of online

18:25

people get that . I mean , think

18:27

of your favorite YouTuber . Nine times out of

18:29

ten , everyone's just like oh well , they like that because

18:31

they're shut up . They don't

18:33

they are . But

18:35

also in real life people are going to be in Spain and

18:37

if in real life you know because

18:40

again , autism , adhd

18:43

, ocd , depression , whatever it is so

18:45

many times get told I'll beat your

18:47

faking them because you're masking , it's

18:49

not , that's not what

18:51

it is . Oh , no , I know . But so many times

18:54

people have told that as well , because it's like , oh

18:56

, but if it's not user

18:58

, that's not the case . I actually think

19:01

that neurotypicals , in terms

19:03

of day to day life , probably mask more

19:05

than your end of virgin . A hundred percent , too , pussy

19:07

ass , to fucking say it Exactly Because

19:10

they'll go into the world and treat them . This is the difference

19:12

.

19:12

So that's how you've got neurodivergence

19:15

.

19:15

You are less likely to buddy

19:18

up with your boss because you need

19:20

to . You're more likely to turn the fuck

19:22

off if they can get your nerves , but

19:25

a lot of other people will just , you

19:27

know , buddy up on it . You

19:30

know that's the bullshit about

19:32

it .

19:33

Neurodivirals power trick , neurodivergence

19:35

lead . There's a huge

19:37

difference in those two things . I try my

19:40

best not to you

19:42

try , but you do . I'll

19:45

start the fucking back .

19:46

Someone else got the reins , got dammit .

19:51

Yeah , I'd rather not , but

19:53

anyone better not to do it . There's now

19:55

people out there going .

19:56

Oh , but you wasn't charged .

19:57

That's because you fuckers don't step

19:59

up , right , that's because you fucking per se

20:01

. That's the entire point .

20:04

Yeah , I mean so I think there's

20:06

a thing about relationships . I think

20:08

the thing we just all need to get used to is that

20:10

all of us are going to put on a

20:13

little bit of bullshit . It's time to time

20:15

, no matter what it is , because we

20:18

need to for ourselves . That

20:20

is not someone lying . It's

20:22

just someone trying to not

20:24

feel uncomfortable .

20:25

Right .

20:26

And I think that's where a lot of it comes from . But unfortunately , because

20:28

of the online world , it's been moved over

20:30

to our people online and on real , often

20:32

neurodivergent . Well

20:36

, they're just lazy and lying , and that's the

20:38

thing .

20:38

But isn't that a little bit dangerous

20:41

in some ways ? If

20:44

you're only comfortable online , did

20:46

you just stay online forever instead

20:49

of getting out into the real world ? To me that's a

20:51

little bit dangerous . There's two things

20:53

.

20:54

I've issued . There's one I think

20:56

the real world can be online and two

20:58

, but two also

21:00

for some people . For

21:04

some people , they're far better online , hey

21:06

.

21:06

I've done it and that's the thing . That's the whole premise . Yeah

21:09

, it's whatever works for you . Whatever works for you . Did you

21:11

fucking do it ? Yeah ?

21:13

well , I'll go back to the thing Again

21:15

. Anybody from the 100-lip of words again , thank

21:17

you , I think . Well , I used

21:19

to say what works for you works for

21:21

you . It sounded like my stupid life .

21:23

It's true , but if it works for you then

21:25

why would you do something ? Else .

21:26

It was also why maybe we

21:29

should try and change certain people with mental health

21:31

issues behavior to suit what you

21:33

think is normal . I'm looking at a few

21:35

psychologists in America that can't be being sued

21:37

Anyway .

21:40

But let's get all over America for this . No

21:43

, no , it's just that they're the ones being sued the most . I

21:46

think , again what you mean . But

21:50

I think we have , as you said , that's my biggest

21:52

weakness . I

21:55

know what to say and I can't say it well

21:57

. Well , it's not just that , I think there's also a

21:59

bias for you . You do have

22:01

a bias against the

22:04

kind of what I have a bias

22:06

against is people literally

22:09

saying in front of the computer

22:11

screen for days on

22:14

end doing absolutely

22:17

.

22:17

Like yes , they might not be doing that

22:19

, they're helping .

22:22

They're doing great things , but that's

22:24

the second . They start to get away from that computer

22:26

and they go out into the real world

22:28

where relationships actually

22:30

, like you can't just click the X button , like

22:33

you can't just say in cult .

22:36

That's called an Irish goodbye .

22:40

You see , I point on this that

22:42

matters .

22:43

So like social skills do at

22:45

some point matter

22:47

, and I swear to you

22:49

, everyone has ever met me going in

22:52

total and that . But then

22:54

there's definitely two of them . Everyone

22:56

in the ? U is fucking mad . However

22:58

, however when I'm back

23:00

at home , I walk out my door , I go to the shop

23:03

and then I'll come home . I'll do that and then I'll come out . And

23:05

no one knows where I live because they don't need to . So

23:07

I am the other side of it . I

23:10

am far more comfortable

23:12

in front of my screen

23:14

, so I

23:16

like being outside , but I feel comfortable

23:19

in front of my screen , right

23:21

, because that's . I don't

23:23

have to deal with other people

23:26

judging , assuming I

23:29

just deal with what I want . I

23:31

want to watch on YouTube the work I need

23:33

to do doing a podcast

23:35

. I have the control and the

23:38

assumptions of others are things that I've

23:40

had to deal with my entire life , because it's quite

23:42

exciting when I talk Because of whatever

23:44

I have an assumption online , because

23:46

I get to press the red button and tell

23:48

them to fuck off . Right , and that's why in

23:50

real life , if something happens , I walk

23:53

away , I disappear , because

23:55

why do I have to put up with it ? Just

23:57

because they want to have what

23:59

you call real life is for me .

24:02

You know what I am calling real life ?

24:04

I don't know , because online can be real life too . So

24:06

it is what you are calling real life .

24:08

Because you specify the things . This is where you get

24:10

a little bit defensive . No

24:14

, no , no , no , matt , it's not the thing .

24:16

It comes down to actual people . No

24:18

, because you specify outside as real life . You

24:21

specify that I can rewind it and play

24:23

it for the other person .

24:24

No , no that's 100% fine . But

24:26

what you should notice is that when I say those

24:28

things , it's not what I actually

24:30

that doesn't mean that

24:32

you should be smart enough to be able to read

24:34

.

24:35

Well , I don't agree with that Smart

24:37

but anyway , there

24:39

will be a book coming soon . I swear to God

24:41

Smart , save my shit in Amazon at some point . But

24:44

what I mean is I am using that as an indicator

24:46

. It's not about smart or anything else . If

24:49

you give a specific , I am going to answer the specific

24:51

I know . But

24:53

my point is if

24:55

you look at real life , if

24:58

I am dealing with the

25:00

outside real life , then

25:02

I have to deal with that shit for too long . I

25:05

don't have to . If I don't

25:07

have to , why would I ?

25:10

Because it's a

25:12

good question and you're going

25:14

to hate the answer . You're going to know what the answer is

25:16

that I'll say it's because

25:18

, would you actually get away

25:21

from what's comfortable , that you actually

25:23

live ?

25:26

But I've

25:28

lived fine without it . There's

25:30

plenty of people , so

25:32

how many of the top YouTubers

25:35

do you think ?

25:35

live .

25:36

My point is how many of the top YouTubers lived

25:39

before they were behind the screen for

25:41

?

25:41

Daydream . The thing

25:44

is they're filming living

25:49

like they're doing things outside

25:52

of a suit Side men , Logan Paul , Jake

25:54

Paul , all just

25:56

in their own homes Right , but

25:58

most like Mr Beast is your

26:00

favorite .

26:02

Just behind the screen .

26:03

Well , to start , for the first

26:05

eight years , to start . So then

26:07

they branch out , leaving

26:10

that space and going into

26:12

the actual real world . And

26:15

the first . Thing .

26:15

Mr Beast did after having a bad interaction

26:17

with what look ? Wait , wait , wait . My point

26:19

is still . I'm still continuing . Is

26:23

the first thing that the beast did because

26:26

of interactions badly in the outside world

26:28

, was

26:31

to buy and renovate

26:33

a complex in which he lives

26:35

. Now he lives on his own complex , which is

26:37

where they also feel Right , so

26:40

he lives within that complex .

26:41

They feel as

26:43

in his crew . But

26:45

he has people around him .

26:48

When he wishes them to no when he wishes them

26:50

to be . He lives there with security , I'm

26:53

sure at some point . But he lives in there . He's got his own

26:55

little . I only know about his Mr

26:57

who's . The Boss went and visited . He's got his own

26:59

room . He doesn't like . He has his

27:01

own little room in there , sectioned off with

27:03

ensuite . It's not like he's got a thing . He

27:05

has them brought himself back in

27:07

because that's better

27:10

for him . Now I'm not what I'm . What

27:12

I'm not saying is that that's

27:14

going to be the same for everyone . My point is you

27:17

don't need to be offline

27:19

to live . You don't need to be offline

27:22

to see something better for some

27:24

people Correct , you do Correct

27:26

In the same way as for some people probably

27:29

should get offline , It'll be better , Right . I

27:32

think , the the bad . The bad arguing is

27:34

to assume that everyone needs

27:36

it , and I'm not saying you're making that argument . I'm

27:39

not . I'm not saying you're a couple

27:41

of older mothers to say that in the comments . Your

27:45

36 year old is staying in the basement . I'm sorry

27:47

, but that

27:49

that's the problem . Like I , and

27:51

even if you're , even if you feel

27:53

that you don't need to be comfortable in

27:55

the real world or whatever I wasn't

27:58

comfortable for to the point where I've

28:00

had a shitty time

28:02

at certain times in life . I

28:04

don't see the need to continue

28:06

that and having

28:08

to continue with . The biggest thing for me is other

28:10

people's assumptions on me because of certain

28:12

things . I don't need to deal with

28:14

them being dicks , because any response I

28:17

have to that fuels their own assumption

28:19

. Right , so I'm , I'm .

28:21

I'm not sure , I don't know . I thought you looked like

28:23

one thing really quick before we . I won't

28:25

assume anything about you .

28:27

That's why I'm trying to advise you . I think it's fun , it's

28:30

fucking fun , to hang out with you . That's why I talked

28:32

to you online .

28:34

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28:38

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28:46

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28:53

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28:55

. Warren

28:57

was my wife's best friend and

29:00

loved my all .

29:07

At first and

29:09

now you're here at my fucking house .

29:12

And what's the next thing we'll be doing on the next couple of

29:14

days ? Talking about lunch . It's very true

29:18

. It may have started online

29:20

, but it's , and we'll continue

29:22

so Right Until the next

29:24

meetup .

29:25

And then until the next meetup . Until the next meetup .

29:27

And then we go back , right , yeah , but

29:29

at the end of the day it's sustained by fun for

29:32

me , yeah , whichever one

29:34

is sustained by the way in

29:36

which that person feels comfortable .

29:38

Right Is the main thing , and I

29:40

feel comfortable with that . No , it's not the same . By the

29:42

way , I'm not being held here , but against my

29:44

will . It's fine and I'm pretty sure I could take it

29:46

.

29:47

I mean , there is a lot of fireworks .

29:49

It's pretty firepower when I am in Florida

29:52

, but you know it's

29:54

. I think that there's some flexibility and that's

29:56

fine , but that's also fine and I think that's

29:58

. I think it takes a different level . I

30:01

also think it's something very specific

30:03

for certain mental

30:05

health issues as well . Is that

30:07

a level of comfortable is the best between you

30:09

know , there's a version of neurotypicals that neurotypicals

30:12

too often try

30:14

to step over and step into . I know

30:16

and

30:19

that's probably where a lot of my issue

30:21

comes from is they don't step into it Because

30:23

it's like they don't

30:26

need to act like you , they don't need to interact the way

30:28

that you do , because they're not doing anything wrong , right . If

30:30

they're doing something wrong , that's different

30:33

, but if they're not , they're not fucking

30:35

alone , they're fine . I know Parents

30:37

with mental health issues . Um

30:40

, yeah .

30:41

And no , I totally agree with that and that's

30:43

hurt my life immensely

30:46

, is you know , people like me ? It's

30:49

more like oh , you should , you should

30:52

do this , you should do

30:54

this , Can I do this ? Please do this

30:56

, Please do this . My thing

30:58

is they're like I don't

31:02

just let me .

31:02

Fucking helps myself

31:04

and someone else Like I'm

31:07

done , like you

31:09

should do this , you should do this . How is that

31:11

going to change the world ? It's

31:13

not . I'm

31:16

usually called too aggressive and I'm like

31:18

.

31:18

It's not just because I'm big , but that's

31:20

why I fucking love you is because you're so aggressive

31:23

. I'm not . I know , and

31:25

that's the thing I think for a lot of people , the aggressiveness

31:29

you hear .

31:30

I'm bigger than them . That's not my fucking . That's

31:32

called genetics . It's science people

31:34

Learning Um .

31:38

I'm a self .

31:40

Um , I mean , it's that . That's the thing

31:42

about that . It's first , it's first . I'm sure it

31:44

gets Um , and it's just it

31:47

. People just need to be able

31:49

to come to what they are . Now , obviously , if we're

31:52

talking relationships , if you've got one person online

31:54

, that's so comfortable online and

31:56

one person is no comfortable online . Maybe

31:59

this , I mean that one that

32:01

one's gonna that may . That may clash a little bit .

32:03

That may be a I don't know that's gonna

32:05

. That's gonna struggle a bit , but it's just . You know it's

32:08

being in relationships my wife is

32:10

just good .

32:10

Yeah , we got to get to the point . So

32:13

, um , I don't know . Hello , sweetheart

32:15

, that was that was no point

32:17

just bought off because there never is Um , but

32:19

hopefully you've had a good new year .