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2:50

at this time. Next week Landon

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and I you know we'll be talking about the Cowboys first round

2:55

pick assuming they make one and

2:57

don't trade down in round one. We're

3:00

gonna do our final mock draft

3:02

simulation of the year and the

3:04

only obstacle or only

3:06

thing that we're gonna try to accomplish in this

3:08

one is finding a starting running back after

3:11

round two. The reason why later we're gonna try to do

3:13

this is you and I were talking pre show. I

3:16

did some research on the running back

3:18

position. The latest that are running the

3:20

first running back has ever been drafted

3:23

was back in 2014 when

3:25

Bishop Sankey came off the board at pick 54

3:28

to the Titans. The

3:30

Cowboys have the 56 pick. I have a

3:32

hard time believing that the first running back is going to come off

3:34

the board at 56. So if

3:36

Jonathan Brooks is gone and the Cowboys don't love

3:38

Trey Benson, what do they do at the

3:41

running back position then? That's what

3:43

we're going with here. What are your thoughts? I

3:46

think it's a good exercise because as we

3:48

talked about, there's a certain amount of the...

3:52

I admit to the Heisenberg principle, the more

3:54

you observe something, the more likely it is

3:56

to change. And I think that there is

3:58

something here where the more... teams

4:01

in the consensus board seems to mock Jonathan

4:04

Brooks to the Cowboys at 56 I think

4:06

the less likely it is to actually happen

4:09

because if the team likes Jonathan Brooks They

4:11

know that they're gonna have to take him

4:13

before the Cowboys at 56 So

4:15

if anything it feels like 56 is

4:17

likely the floor for Jonathan Brooks at

4:19

this point So I do think this

4:21

is a good exercise I think

4:24

there's been times when we've been all been over reliant on

4:26

the fact that Brooks would be there at 56 And

4:29

I think this is a good way to kind of see hey

4:32

what happens if you can't get that window But that

4:34

was a tray Benson isn't available You know,

4:36

what where do you go to kind of get

4:38

the starting running back you need or at least

4:40

add a guide to the committee That can really

4:43

work. Yeah, so we're gonna use pro football focus

4:45

as mock trap simulator So even if Brooks is

4:47

available pick 56, we're gonna

4:49

pass on them. So before everybody freaks out

4:51

That's just the goal of this exercise Which

4:54

by the way teams do these all the

4:56

time just to give themselves different Scenarios to

4:58

see how things would play out. So let's

5:00

get to the the mock draft simulator Here

5:04

at pick 24 we have some good

5:06

options available. We have a Marius Mims

5:09

from Georgia We have Jackson Powers Johnson

5:11

is still available Zach

5:13

Frazier Jordan Morgan is there

5:15

Tyler Guyton look chop Robinson

5:17

and You have several

5:19

trade offers on the board to Several

5:22

it looks like there's almost every single

5:25

team except for the bottom five probably

5:29

47 trade offers people are my guess is

5:31

scenario people want to come up for either

5:33

Mims or AD Mitchell who is still yeah

5:36

I'm thinking so I mean

5:38

honestly, you know in this case, I would

5:40

be thrilled to take Mims I'd be thrilled

5:42

to take Jackson Powers Johnson And

5:45

there's a couple of the guys that obviously that

5:47

are great for trade back options. So we can

5:49

look at trade back options I think that that's

5:51

still a very sound strategy. Can we talk about

5:53

me real quick? Yeah I think you're

5:55

higher on Mims than I am. I'm not

5:57

opposed to drafting a Marius Mims at 24

6:00

but I gotta be honest he does

6:02

scared me quite a bit not only does he only

6:04

have eight starts But only four games

6:06

in his career. He's played over 40 snaps

6:09

in the game. He just the injury history is

6:11

pretty extensive there Yeah,

6:13

I mean and that's why you're getting him at 24

6:15

It's been my opinion like if you watch what he

6:17

does when he's actually on the field and when he's

6:19

on You know ready to play He's

6:22

pretty great and there's there's a reason that you

6:24

know, he ended up at Georgia and was such

6:26

a high recruit and you

6:28

know, this is not a case where You

6:30

know, this is a guy that is

6:32

just An athlete

6:35

or just a physical specimen that you're hoping

6:37

can can put it together or you're hoping

6:39

you can you know Get to a place

6:41

where he could be a good tackle He

6:43

is a good tech like you go and

6:45

watch the tape it gets really good competition.

6:47

He played really great football so I

6:49

think that there's a lot of uncertainty because you

6:51

said like the lack of starts the the kind

6:53

of injury stuff that's kind of Been

6:56

a lot of start-stop for him, right? But

6:59

if you're asking me, I think I'll

7:01

tell you It

7:03

was a a series of circumstance, right?

7:05

Like he goes to a team where there's

7:07

a lot of really good college offensive tackles.

7:10

He sits behind them He gets his opportunity

7:12

plays extremely well earns a starting spot and

7:14

then immediately gets injured in his

7:16

first year So I'll take a

7:19

chance on that because I've seen him play good

7:21

football Even have to project that he's gonna be

7:23

a good player It's more about just getting consistency

7:25

from him and I think that

7:27

I think he can learn that as he's playing

7:29

on the job I'm also one of the people

7:31

that believe that he is not a right tackle

7:33

I think he's a left tackle because I don't

7:35

love I don't love him as a run

7:37

blocker right now I think he's almost

7:39

too big to be a in

7:42

you know Get out in space and run block and you

7:44

know A lot of teams are right-handed and

7:46

you need your right tackle to be a really

7:48

good run blocker I I think he actually projects

7:50

better as a left tackle in a lot of

7:52

the same ways that like Orlando Brown junior You

7:55

know was a right tackle or sorry. He was a left

7:57

tackle at Oklahoma Everybody thought he

7:59

may be We should play right tackle, but no he's

8:01

gonna Pro Bowl left tackle Yeah,

8:03

I mean, I think I will definitely agree with

8:05

you that he's well ahead in his past protection

8:07

than he is in his run Blocking so

8:10

that does make a lot of sense and I

8:12

think yeah if anything there's concerns that he can't

8:14

play left tackle I agree. I think he very

8:16

much can play left tackle without without too much

8:19

issue All right. So what do

8:21

you want to do here? Do you want

8:23

to take Mims? Well, let's just see what

8:25

the trade offers are real quick, right? We

8:27

have we have every team every single team

8:29

Boston interested, Arizona, Buffalo, Baltimore San

8:32

Francisco, Kansas, I mean any you pick your spot.

8:34

We have a trade-off or a veil Okay, so

8:36

I don't want to trade too far down But

8:39

I would love to find a way to recoup

8:41

that at least that fourth round pick So

8:43

because I'd like you know, look I would

8:46

like to go maybe 28 is

8:48

the most right like especially in this situation because

8:50

I think I could I Still

8:52

would love to trade down and get Jackson's

8:54

power Johnson, right? So that would be here's

8:56

the problem with well So

8:58

Buffalo if you wanted to trade 24 for

9:00

28, you probably wouldn't get back

9:03

60 You could get back picks 128

9:06

and 133. I don't know how

9:08

much that does for you. I think How

9:11

about Baltimore at pick 30?

9:13

You could get 30 and

9:16

93 and maybe another one later Yeah,

9:19

I think that's I think that's what

9:21

I would like to do. Let's wait. How far is that?

9:23

That's 30. That's six spots That's

9:29

far man, so just to be clear the trade

9:31

would be the picks 24 for 30 93

9:36

in 113 it would give you an extra third round

9:38

pick and it would also give you a fairly early

9:40

fourth round selection What

9:44

Let's do we look at one more trade

9:47

before we go. This is let's look at

9:49

Arizona because honestly like Yeah,

9:52

they got a lot of pick so you can do

9:54

picks 24 for 27 slide

9:57

down three spots and grab pick 90 I'm

10:00

in for that. Okay. I think because I don't

10:02

want to go too far back I'm afraid that

10:04

I'm gonna lose both of my my guys that

10:06

I like. Okay, and we're already going through a

10:09

gambit of Green Bay. All

10:11

right. So at picks at pick. Oh, we got her

10:13

The the Cardinals take a Marius Mims that makes sense that

10:16

they're trading up for a tackle Johnny

10:18

Newton goes to the Packers at 25 Nate

10:20

Wiggins goes to the Bucks at 26 that

10:23

means that Jackson powers Johnson Zach

10:25

Frazier and Jordan

10:27

Morgan along with Tyler Guyton and

10:29

Kingsley Sua my Tia are all

10:32

available. I Mean

10:34

for me, it's it's Jackson power Johnson, I

10:36

think Yeah, let's

10:38

just make it easy. Well, let's just let's take let's say

10:40

the Cowboys don't want to mess around too much They're

10:43

very happy they pick up an additional third-round pick

10:45

and they take in their mind the

10:47

best center in the draft Yeah, I

10:49

think it makes a lot of sense and it makes

10:52

you feel better about the situation too by getting the

10:54

trade back Right, like you get yes that third round

10:56

so you get another bite at the Apple. I think

10:59

this is that to me this is

11:02

Probably best-case scenario for the

11:05

draft is short of like someone

11:07

incredible falling to you at 24 I

11:10

think if you can if you can get another pick

11:12

back and get like the top center

11:14

in the class You still have

11:16

an opportunity to get another tackle. I

11:18

think to me this is my favorite outcome And

11:20

I would say this is very realistic because I think the team's drafting at

11:22

27 28 29 30 31 and 32 are all Pretty

11:28

notorious or pretty known for trading up

11:30

especially the Cardinals like the Cardinals love

11:32

to move around in the draft Wouldn't

11:34

be the ammo at this point too, right?

11:36

Exactly. All right So let's take Jackson Powers

11:38

Johnson and again We're going with the assumption

11:41

that the Cowboys top-ranked running backs were off the board

11:43

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11:45

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your podcasts. All right, we

14:04

are back here in round two of our mock

14:07

draft simulation. We took

14:09

Jackson Powers Johnson after a slight

14:11

trade down, picking up an

14:13

additional third round pick. Now

14:15

that we have our center, what are

14:17

you looking to do here in round two, Laban?

14:20

Well, I think we have to at least look at

14:22

the tackle class, right? And see who's available. I saw

14:24

Kieran Pekin in there. There's

14:26

Blake Fisher. There's Roger

14:29

Rosen. Rosen, Rosengarten, and

14:32

Patrick Paul. And so I

14:35

think, you know, for me, I

14:37

really feel like I need to get one

14:40

of these tackles. I

14:42

don't know if I'm necessarily feeling like

14:44

I had to pull the trigger here,

14:47

but, you

14:49

know, in this scenario where we're trying to take a

14:51

running back, you know, a little bit later, it

14:53

may be beneficial to think about

14:57

pulling the trigger on the tackle here.

14:59

Otherwise let's look and see what else

15:01

is available. Just really quickly. Yeah. You

15:04

and I both really like Blake Fisher. Yeah. Roger

15:07

Rosengarten had an unbelievable 40 yard dash.

15:10

I haven't heard from anybody on the

15:12

Cowboys side of things that they are

15:15

interested in, Brandon Coleman from TCU. But

15:17

I have heard that the Cowboys might be

15:19

interested in from, again, somebody not on the

15:22

Cowboys team. This is very interesting. The

15:24

Cowboys obviously did a lot of work on Steve Abula

15:26

last year. Coleman has played,

15:28

as you can see here on PFF, over 1300 snaps, over

15:31

1400 snaps, the left

15:34

tackle. He's played a bunch of left guard

15:37

snaps. Like this one is really intriguing.

15:39

Like if you want to just draft somebody and

15:42

say he's a left side player, kind of like you did

15:44

with Kyle Smith and figure it out later. Yeah.

15:47

We talked about the only time we've talked about Brandon is

15:49

I brought it up when Vach was on because I know

15:51

that he's a big

15:53

old, old guy as well. And I've

15:55

watched a little bit of him and he's

15:57

definitely just one of these guys that that

16:00

because another tweener, right? Another guy that you feel

16:02

like can play guard tackle, another

16:04

guy who you feel like just kind of is being

16:06

lost in this process of just a ton of these

16:09

tackles, right? I think he's a very good player. You

16:12

know, the grades right there show you he didn't

16:14

have a fantastic season last year, but he also

16:17

was kind of bouncing around between positions a little

16:19

bit and a lot of stuff going on.

16:21

So- He ran a 4.99 40 yard dash at 316

16:23

pounds with

16:26

a 1.73 10 yard split. He's

16:28

a good athlete. There's just, there's no way around

16:31

that. There's a reason that like even at his

16:33

body style, he's being considered a tackle, you

16:35

know, and then obviously we've got Kieran, who was the guy

16:37

that we talked about. I think

16:40

this is probably, I mean, I

16:42

would probably rank it exactly how they

16:44

do, right? Like Kieran is probably exactly

16:46

right here, middle of the second,

16:48

late second, right? Like I feel like if he

16:50

hadn't had the injury and had gone through more

16:53

of the off season process, he would have

16:55

been ranked a little bit higher here. I

16:57

will say though, like Kieran is a lower

17:00

floor prospect. I think

17:02

Blake Fisher, then I, Brandon

17:06

Coleman's probably similar because it's hard to project where he's

17:08

going to be, but- Let me ask you this, Landon.

17:10

So we have our center right now, right? So this

17:12

makes things so much easier. Knowing

17:14

that you have at least right now, Tyler

17:16

Smith at left guard, JPJ at center, Zach

17:19

Marta, right tackle, Terence Steele at left tackle,

17:21

or sorry, right tackle. Which

17:23

one of these do you think best fits

17:25

the Cowboys under this scenario? Which

17:28

one of these tackles? Yes, yep. Well,

17:34

I think Fisher does because

17:36

I think he's the best player. And I

17:38

also think that, of these guys, even

17:41

though he didn't play right tackle in

17:43

college, but he's the youngest there. He's

17:45

the youngest. He's also probably

17:47

got the highest pedigree, right? Like

17:50

I feel like playing tackle, they're

17:52

pretty sure the first freshmen

17:54

starting left tackle in like 20 plus

17:57

years or something like that when he started as a- So

18:02

I honestly, you know would ignore these rankings that

18:04

I don't agree with and I would it's like

18:06

Fisher Okay, like I got no problem with that

18:09

because I really am a fan. Okay,

18:11

so we got that Let's look at some other

18:13

positions. Yeah quickly. Yeah, I'll blind backers Do you

18:15

have your choice? Edger Cooper's there junior Colson is

18:17

there you have to scroll down a little bit

18:19

to find Lanham's guy Trevyn walls down way down

18:22

there, but he is available and Yeah,

18:25

you get a scroll past Jordan McGee from Temple

18:28

who they ranked above a

18:30

couple of receivers Malachi

18:32

Corley, Jermaine Burton, Taz

18:34

Walker, Jevon Baker, Johnny

18:36

Wilson I will

18:39

go to the defensive line if you want to see

18:41

this Dorless is an

18:43

interesting guy for sure. Rook O'Rororo.

18:46

I believe I got it right O'Rororo

18:49

O'Rororo, it's like Scooby-Doo with him. It's like

18:52

Scooby-Doo exactly like Scooby-Doo just got in trouble,

18:54

right? Yeah To

18:57

me I think my ball juniors also an interesting prospect

18:59

as well, but if you want to have late, yeah,

19:01

yeah I think you take

19:04

I think you take the office. There's not a blinking light

19:06

That's not that's gonna pull me off of Fisher

19:08

at this point Right, like I don't see to be

19:11

quorums here But I don't know that this

19:13

is right at the top of where I would

19:15

feel like taking quorum Honestly, though real quick it

19:19

my favorite player that I've seen

19:21

available of all these guys

19:23

scroll down Okay,

19:25

Christian Hayes Christian Haynes. Yep.

19:28

Yeah, I like him a lot ever since

19:30

I saw him at the Senior Bowl I can

19:32

you take watch more can you take to interior

19:34

offensive lineman? No, I mean, I honestly I'm just

19:36

I'm just more pointing this out I don't think

19:38

this is a guy that the Cowboys should consider

19:41

taking in this scenario where you've already taken Jackson

19:43

power Well, so you could take a safety because

19:45

apparently that's a huge need From

19:48

what I've heard No, I

19:50

think I think I'm good on safety in the second

19:52

round. I would probably take place Let's

19:54

take Blake Fisher because we've got two more picks here

19:57

We'll make one more and then we'll take a quick break. So We've

20:00

accomplished our goal, right? We wanted to wait

20:02

on running back until we got to the

20:04

third round of the draft. And

20:06

it's pretty well picked over. However, Lynn, and there

20:09

are some running backs available that I really liked.

20:11

The Cowboys now have picks 87 and 90. Uh,

20:15

we've got Ray Davis available, Marsha and

20:17

Lloyd, uh, Tyrone, Tracy, who, you know,

20:19

the Cowboys have some interest in Braylon

20:21

Allen, Audrey estimate. Do

20:24

you see any of these guys being

20:26

day one starters at the running back

20:28

position for you? Um,

20:32

well, I don't, I see that all,

20:34

but several of these guys being day

20:36

one, like main contributors and

20:38

part of a committee for sure. You know,

20:40

like I think guys that could be the lead

20:43

guy in these committees, I think several of

20:45

these guys could be that, um,

20:47

I don't know if anyone's going to be like, you

20:49

know, kind of your exclusive running back,

20:51

all these guys are going to be, you know,

20:54

sharing one a, the one, you know, exactly. So

20:56

it keeping that in mind, you know, the question

20:58

is what kind of, what type of running back

21:00

would you like to get here? And that's the

21:02

great thing about where we've landed is that, you

21:05

know, look, obviously some of the top guys, Benson

21:07

and, and, and, uh, Brooks are gone, but look

21:10

at all the available types of running backs and you

21:12

have your pick of the litter here, right? So I

21:15

tend to think that, you know, the

21:17

Cowboys should look at, scroll up to

21:19

the top a little bit, right? You have Ray

21:21

Davis, who I think makes a lot of sense

21:23

there because we talked about him, he's just too

21:26

early though. He's going to be 25 as a

21:28

rookie. I agree. But I think that

21:30

the thing about Ray Davis is that, that's

21:32

the, that's the positive there is that I feel

21:34

like you're going to get four solid

21:37

years of production out

21:39

of his rookie contract. Right. But

21:41

however, I'm going to argue against that right now.

21:43

Right. I think what

21:45

you do is you actually consider

21:47

taking a Lloyd Tracy Watson type.

21:49

Right. Because the, the, the kind of

21:51

juice guy is what you need. Right.

21:54

And I think all three of those

21:56

guys, you know, I don't like Lloyd as

21:58

much as some folks do. And

22:00

it may be a little bit too early

22:02

for Tracy and Watson And

22:05

I estimate is a completely different type

22:07

of guy right? He's also available, but

22:09

he is more of that Could

22:12

he potentially be the lead back in a committee?

22:14

In fact now that I'm looking at why is

22:16

estimate down here at 123 is the ranking But

22:20

people got scared of the 471 if

22:23

it was if I was the only one making

22:25

the decision I would go with Alan or estimate

22:27

and then try to grab another one of these

22:29

Part-time backs. I think see

22:32

I would go the other way. I would

22:34

go with Tracy or Watson I just think

22:36

Tracy will be available later. And so yeah,

22:39

I kind of think so too So I

22:41

almost feel like you could take somebody at

22:43

87 see who else is there

22:45

It takes the 87 take the other running

22:48

back at 90 90

22:50

and then wait until the next pick and see

22:53

what other running Like Dylan Johnson there, right? Yeah,

22:55

you know this exercise Let's take a running back

22:57

at 87 and we'll go with a different position.

23:00

I do you want to take If

23:02

we're gonna do this, then let's take one of

23:05

those Lloyd Tracy Watson guys, right? Like I think

23:07

let's take Lloyd He's probably I think he's probably

23:09

the most likely to go in that range I'm

23:12

not a huge fan, but third-ground is fine. That's

23:14

that works for me. Okay, let's do that I

23:17

think I would still prefer Braille and

23:19

Alan or Audrey estimate, but that's okay We're gonna

23:21

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23:23

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25:05

back to the Lott on Cowboys podcast. We

25:07

are doing our final mock draft simulation of

25:09

the year. So, so far, Landon,

25:11

you and I have traded down and selected JPJ.

25:14

We got Blake Fisher, our hopefully long term

25:16

answer left tackle, filled our two biggest needs.

25:19

Drafted or running back in third round, Marshawn

25:21

Lloyd, who can give us some juice. Now

25:24

we've got to pick here at 90 and pick 174. What

25:27

other positions are you looking to address? I

25:31

think at this point, you can kind of open

25:33

things up a little bit more and see what

25:35

is available on across a couple of different spots.

25:37

I mean, you know, you probably would love to

25:39

get an edge

25:42

with some upside maybe or a linebacker.

25:45

Let's look at linebackers because we know that the spot

25:47

that the Cowboys are hunting in this

25:49

mock. Here, my Trotter Jr.

25:51

is there. Tommy Eichenberg is there.

25:55

I said you're great. I like you like a

25:57

little bit and then Trevin Wall. So if you

26:00

want to take. a linebacker here that gives you

26:02

some athletic upside. Trevor Mollis is

26:04

interesting. I think he

26:06

also is a good fit for the spot

26:08

too. I would agree. Despite what PFF feels

26:10

about him. I think, you

26:13

know, they don't love the grades. You can see on

26:15

the screen over here, the grades are not great, but...

26:17

Well, listen, I mean, you know, if you make the

26:19

grades and you give them the grade, you can't go

26:21

against your own grade, right? So I just

26:24

agree with the grade. I think this

26:26

would be a good spot for him. But

26:28

I do think that, you know, there are

26:30

several other linebackers here, right? Like that

26:32

are, you know, of decent ilk. How

26:35

do you like Tommy Eichenberg? Because he's somebody

26:37

that I've kind of grown on in the

26:39

process a little bit. And

26:41

I just wonder, like, if he'd be a

26:43

good fit in Mike Zimmer's defense, because he's

26:46

not the most athletic, but he makes every single

26:48

tackle and he's always where he's supposed to be.

26:50

He's just, he's like, it feels like

26:53

Ohio State puts out this linebacker every

26:55

year, right? Like, don't they? Like, they

26:58

do one of these guys every year where they're

27:00

just super dependable. Like,

27:02

just, they don't miss tackles. They

27:04

don't miss assignments. They're not very

27:06

dynamic, necessarily, but they get the

27:09

job done, right? He's

27:12

fine. Like, I certainly don't have an issue,

27:14

like, if you needed, like, a

27:16

body to come in and give you good solid

27:18

snaps, maybe not as a starter

27:20

right away, but can work his way into it.

27:22

Like, that's certainly Tommy Eichenberg. He gives you a

27:24

nice floor at the position. I just

27:27

think that Trevin Wallace is a little bit more dynamic

27:29

and maybe a little

27:31

bit more of a physical player that the

27:33

Cowboys, especially in the run game, could use.

27:36

Okay. Well, let's take Trevin Wallace,

27:38

then, because I think this is probably

27:40

where you have to get him, if not a little

27:42

bit earlier. And I think this is the benefit of

27:44

trading down is you get to pick up another third

27:46

round pick and gamble on somebody like Trevin Wallace. And

27:49

if it doesn't work out, then so be it. But

27:51

it's, you know, you're still pretty comfortable with what

27:54

you did in the first three rounds. So I'm

27:56

perfectly fine with that. Great. Let's do

27:58

it. All right. So again, Just

28:00

to recap Jackson Powers Johnson

28:02

in round one Blake Fisher

28:05

the tackle from Notre Dame who we are

28:07

projecting as a left tackle in the NFL

28:10

We would selected Marshawn Lloyd in round three

28:12

We took Trevyn Wallace in round three the

28:14

end round three and then was our final

28:16

pick here in round five We're not doing

28:18

picks six and seven We

28:20

can address a couple other spots There's more

28:23

running backs if you wanted to grab another running

28:25

back to pair with Marshawn Lloyd Isaac

28:27

Arendo who ran the four two at 225 pounds

28:30

Rachina Ali Dilla

28:33

Johnson is still available. Oh, Mani Bailey

28:36

Why no, they're telling you is also

28:38

very good Kimani Vidal You know listen if you

28:41

had gone the other way if we had taken

28:43

like Estimate

28:46

right maybe you take Kimani

28:48

Vidal as your as your you know, you're

28:50

passing game back, right? well,

28:53

this is this is why I am Generally

28:56

in favor of taking the bigger running

28:58

back Early because

29:00

not the doll is another great example. One of

29:02

the ones I really like is Dylan

29:04

Lobby Dylan loud Yeah, he's out of even more of that.

29:06

Yeah, he got 68 passes in 2023 49 and 2022 171

29:14

career catches like he's a

29:17

passing game specialist Danny

29:19

would had 2.0, which is a little bit bigger and

29:22

I think and I actually think I'm on I

29:24

believe another one of those guys that you can

29:26

get later if you're just looking for a passing

29:30

back third down specialists, yeah,

29:33

and I mean But

29:36

to my point and to both of our points

29:38

this class is so deep that it also works

29:40

our way to write Yeah, Dylan Johnson the guy

29:42

that we just talked about. He is also available

29:44

Frank Gore jr. Another guy who kind of similarly

29:47

Physical back he's also available So

29:51

it really is about like who you

29:53

like, you know And who like what

29:55

you want to get and get prioritized

29:57

on I would say

29:59

in this scenario We played out Dylan Johnson makes

30:01

a ton of sense, right? but

30:04

yeah, I think your point is absolutely true

30:06

as well that that that they could have

30:08

we could have gone the route of of

30:12

one of the bigger backs early on and

30:14

then Isaiah Garindo or Dylan

30:16

Morley or yes I'm

30:19

hoping the Cowboys can add like another fifth

30:21

and six-round pick because I would love to

30:23

double up on running backs in this draft

30:25

There's just so much talent and I really

30:27

feel like you can completely rebuild your backfield

30:31

By using pick 87 and pick 174

30:34

I mean this no that's basically no

30:36

draft capital they completely reshape your backfield

30:39

to the next four years is really

30:41

intriguing to me Well, if you

30:43

if you want to have it like especially in a year that

30:45

you're trying to like do something this year Yes, that's even the

30:47

case that you know, like if

30:49

you want to have an impact player That's

30:52

gonna rookie that's gonna make an impact in

30:54

the fifth round or beyond running

30:56

backs to the spot You know like

30:58

so it certainly makes sense to add

31:00

a guy here, especially when the

31:02

Cowboys have a pretty serious need there All

31:04

right. Let's go ahead and take with the idea that

31:06

we're taking two running backs. Let's take Dylan Johnson Who

31:09

is a very very don't? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

31:12

yeah, yeah, Dylan Johnson Just we get to have a little

31:14

bit of a bigger running back Um

31:16

gotta say Landon, I like to stress quite

31:18

a bit now PFF hates our last two

31:20

picks But those are your picks stop

31:22

I picked Our

31:26

son Lloyd Trevor Wallace Dylan Johnson, and this is

31:28

what the Cowboys do I would be very happy

31:31

with it Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I

31:33

think you know, especially especially

31:35

those top two picks like, you know

31:38

the the running back and linebacker stuff

31:40

like I think There's

31:42

so many different ways you can skin that cat

31:44

and a lot of them will turn out great

31:46

And I think this is one of the the

31:48

scenarios, right? But I think what you

31:50

really worry about is being able to thread that needle

31:52

up top And I think we did

31:54

a really good job of threading it. Honestly, just being

31:56

able to get both Jackson Powers Johnson and Brian

32:00

Fisher really, really upgrades the offensive line

32:02

and, you know, kind of gives you

32:04

a bright future at the position. We

32:07

are less than a week away from the NFL

32:09

draft. We have no idea what the Cowboys have

32:11

done are going to do. They've done a really

32:13

good job of kind of hiding some of their

32:15

interest. We are in for

32:17

one absolutely wild week. So make sure

32:19

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