Podchaser Logo
Home
The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

Released Tuesday, 27th February 2024
Good episode? Give it some love!
The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

The Refs Actually Bailed the Knicks Out For Once As the Knicks Squeak By the Pistons

Tuesday, 27th February 2024
Good episode? Give it some love!
Rate Episode

Episode Transcript

Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.

Use Ctrl + F to search

0:00

Welcome into locked on Nix Alex Wolf here

0:02

going solo to break down the Nix one

0:04

13 to one 11 win over the Pistons.

0:08

It came down to the wire and the

0:10

refs actually helped the Nix for once. This

0:12

was weird, strange territory,

0:14

but the roughing still probably needs a

0:17

little bit of work. The

0:19

Villanova trio went crazy in this game

0:21

and Evan Fornier and Quentin Grimes made

0:23

their return to the garden and Malachai

0:25

Flynn, I guess. All that and more

0:27

next on locked on Nix. You

0:32

are locked on Nix your daily

0:34

New York Nix podcast, part of

0:36

the locked on podcast network, your

0:38

team every day. All

0:47

right. Welcome in to locked on Nix. Today's episode

0:49

is brought to you by Fandul make every moment

0:51

more. Right now, new customers get $150 in bonus

0:53

bets with any winning $5 bet. That's

0:57

150 bucks. If your bet wins

0:59

visit fandul.com/locked on to get started. And I

1:02

want to thank you guys for making locked

1:04

on Nix your first listen today and every

1:06

day whether you're checking us out in your

1:08

favorite podcast platform or taking insights and sounds

1:10

on YouTube. We appreciate you making us a

1:13

part of your daily routine. If you haven't

1:15

already, make sure you hit that subscribe button

1:17

on both YouTube and your favorite podcast app and

1:19

then hit the notification bell or the auto download

1:22

function so you never miss an

1:24

episode. I'm Alex Wolf. I'm editor in chief

1:26

and Nix site, the Strickland, which you can

1:28

find strict outland and not joined by

1:30

Gavin today. We're going to have a little bit of a, of

1:33

a, uh, a separate week this week. He's very

1:35

busy with lots of play by play work, which

1:37

is exciting. Uh, so I will

1:39

be going solo today and man,

1:41

one 13 to one 11 over to the lowly

1:45

Detroit Pistons don't love to see that

1:47

from a Nix perspective. I'm sure maybe

1:49

the, uh, Pistons upper management

1:51

is not exactly, uh, crying

1:54

over it today. Monty Williams was

1:56

a little animated after

1:59

the game. because if you

2:01

want to talk about, you know, based off what happened

2:03

with the Knicks and Houston, uh,

2:05

a few weeks ago before the all-star break

2:07

with that, that blown call, uh, that ultimately

2:09

cost them the game, the foul

2:12

call on Jalen Brunson that then, uh, led

2:14

to those holiday free throws, which, which lost

2:17

on that game. If

2:19

you believe in poetic justice or karma or whatever,

2:21

then the Knicks get a, a

2:24

win off a pretty straightforward no-call, uh,

2:26

down the stretch that should have been a foul. I mean,

2:28

look, I don't

2:30

know. Knicks fans can look at this

2:33

and through the Homer glass. I've seen a lot of

2:35

people trying to justify the call and be like, no,

2:37

I don't think it was a foul. It

2:39

was a foul. I mean, uh,

2:41

uh, Osso Thompson comes away with a, with

2:44

a steal down the stretch of this game. The

2:46

Knicks are down too. Um, and

2:50

he gets the ball and, and starts, you know,

2:52

working his way down the court and you could

2:54

argue that he didn't have full possession or whatever,

2:57

but then Steven Genzo just comes in and

2:59

basically hip checks him to get

3:01

the ball. And, uh, yeah, it was,

3:03

I mean, it was a foul straight up. Like any

3:05

other time that gets called a foul, the referee said

3:07

as much in the post game scrum, I'm sure the

3:09

last two minute report when that comes out today is

3:11

also going to say that was a foul. Uh,

3:14

it was foul and the Knicks lucked out

3:16

and it didn't get called. And then

3:18

Jalen Brunson ends up with the ball. He gets

3:20

a nice pass in to Josh Hart who finishes

3:22

for an and one and then

3:24

Josh Hart to his credit, just big

3:27

boys, the Pistons for the final 10 seconds or

3:29

so of the game and just gets gets

3:32

rebound after rebound, uh, off

3:34

of free throws, no less.

3:37

So yeah, it was, uh, I

3:39

mean, there was, there was some gut check stuff

3:41

by the Knicks late to get this one done.

3:44

And yet also, I mean, they got away with

3:46

the hip check and that ultimately probably won them

3:49

the game. But I do think, I don't know,

3:52

not to leave the show with refereeing for,

3:54

you know, the second time

3:56

in however many weeks, but I do

3:58

think the game just kind of further underscore the refereeing

4:01

needs to be looked at this off season. I

4:04

don't know, maybe I'm just living in the moment too

4:06

much, but it feels like refereeing

4:09

is getting worse this year. And it seems like more

4:11

and more people are being like, what is going on

4:13

with these guys? There's just

4:16

too much inconsistency with how they call

4:18

games. There's huge calls being made

4:20

late down the stretch of games that just don't,

4:24

that are blatant misses that need

4:27

to get addressed, I think. Cuz

4:29

they're changing the outcomes of games. I mean, in

4:32

this case, I'm not gonna complain as

4:34

much because it's the, it

4:36

helped the Knicks out. But referees in

4:39

general are just blowing more

4:41

and more calls late in games. And also

4:43

sort of throughout the game, if you

4:46

pay attention, skewing

4:48

things more than you would

4:50

like to see. I mean, in this game, there

4:52

was just technical fouls flowing left and right. Two

4:54

Pistons got teed up from pretty

4:56

minor reactions, at least from what it seemed

4:58

like like for me at one point got

5:01

teed up much to the delight of the

5:03

garden crowd for like clapping at an official.

5:08

I don't know that like those sort of

5:10

things I know that they're supposed to enforce

5:12

them, but it seems like they're getting an

5:14

even quicker trigger. And then the

5:16

Knicks end up getting a technical at one point

5:18

for two delay games because one

5:20

of those at one point was Josh Hart didn't have

5:22

his jersey properly tucked in coming

5:24

out of a timeout or something. And so the ref

5:27

hit him with a delay game to

5:29

which Hart was like, why didn't you just tell me to

5:31

tuck my jersey and like, sorry, I missed it, whatever, I

5:33

had a duck tail or whatever. I don't

5:35

know, it doesn't make any sense to me to

5:39

make the game as much about them

5:41

as they are the referees that is.

5:44

So I don't

5:46

know, I just felt like it bears

5:48

addressing. I just think refereeing is

5:50

kind of starting to hit an all time

5:52

low during this season and could probably use

5:54

a look this offseason. But

5:56

also, I want to just say to a win the win.

6:01

It came down in the wire against the Pistons. I

6:03

would have loved for the Knicks to beat them more

6:05

handily, but Quinton Grimes, who I'll get to in a

6:07

second, had a heck of a game. But the

6:10

win counts in the standings, that's all that matters.

6:12

I mean, I'm sure that Sixers

6:14

fans, Pacers fans, all the fans of teams

6:16

that were below the Knicks, plus maybe Bucks

6:18

fans, Cavs fans maybe aren't super thrilled with

6:20

this. If anything, they should be more angry

6:23

than Pistons fans because the Pistons are trying to

6:25

lose as many games as they can anyway, or

6:28

at least at this point, they should be because why

6:31

would you try to resuscitate

6:33

this season at this point when you're this far in

6:35

and only has six wins? But

6:37

yeah, I mean, the win still counts

6:39

for the Knicks. So nobody's gonna look

6:41

back and be like, if

6:43

the Knicks are in the first second round of

6:45

the playoffs and with a fully healthy roster, and

6:47

no one's gonna look back and be moaning about

6:49

how they only beat the Pistons by one possession

6:52

in late February, I mean,

6:54

it's just the fact is they won. They

6:57

kept their record against below 500 teams, like

6:59

pretty much immaculate at this point in the

7:01

season. And the Knicks just find ways to

7:03

beat these teams sometimes with a little rough

7:05

help, but they do it, they beat them.

7:08

So, you know, I'm not concerned about that.

7:10

But yeah, nice game for

7:12

Quentin Grimes, who came back to the Garden 14

7:14

points all in the fourth

7:16

quarter. So that was impressive

7:19

and annoying because he,

7:21

I don't know, it didn't seem like he was doing

7:23

too much different than what he was doing with the

7:25

Knicks. And yet was nailing all the shots down the

7:27

stretch. Maybe he was

7:30

trusted with a little more ball handling responsibility

7:34

or a little more self creation, though I don't think

7:36

those are the moments he necessarily shined the most. But

7:39

yeah, good for him. 14 points

7:42

all in the fourth quarter. I'll get some comments that

7:44

he made in a little bit too. Kate

7:47

Cunningham too had a heck of a game, 32 points

7:49

for him. But ultimately Villanova trio just

7:51

way too much in this game. Jalen

7:53

Brunson dynamite is always Josh

7:56

Hart and even Chenzo were just constant

7:59

motion. the entire time that they were in the

8:02

three guys combined for 79 points, which

8:04

is really solid Brunson ends with 35 points, 12

8:06

assists, 11 and 26

8:09

shootings shot three of 11 from three and

8:12

10 of 11 from the line. So somehow,

8:14

I don't know, this goes back to the

8:16

roughing tune. I have to bring it back there, but somehow even

8:18

with 11 free throw attempts and he took the whatever

8:21

technical free throws that the Knicks had to, it

8:24

felt like he should have had more. I don't know if he

8:26

was just getting hacked and whacked all game as Clyde would say.

8:28

We had Han and Breen on the broadcast and no

8:30

Clyde in this one, but I'm sure that he would

8:32

have said hacked and whacked. It

8:35

was a tough game for Brunson in that regard and

8:37

just didn't seem to get a lot of

8:40

calls. It got enough, but not,

8:42

it got some, but not enough, let's put it that way.

8:45

He's also only shooting 31% from

8:47

three in his last 11 games, which is

8:50

crazy because he's still averaging 32 points

8:53

per game during that span on decent

8:55

efficiency otherwise. So whenever

8:58

he starts hitting threes consistently again, I think we've

9:00

got some 40 point games coming up from him

9:02

because everything else is working

9:05

phenomenally for him and with the defense keyed 100% in

9:07

on him, which

9:09

is the crazier part. But

9:11

I also thought his passing was on point right

9:14

up until that final sequence too, he spent all

9:16

night just kind of luring the D in and

9:19

lulling them to sleep and then finding someone, maybe

9:22

someone that wasn't necessarily right in position to

9:24

score but someone that then had a clear

9:26

path to the hoop that a couple of

9:28

his assists like one of them he hit

9:30

Hartenstein who then had made a nice move

9:32

still on the inside to finish but had

9:34

a nice clear lane because Brunson distracted all

9:36

the defenders enough by just being patient and

9:39

waiting for everyone to collapse on him because that's just

9:41

kind of what teams are accustomed to doing at this

9:43

point on him because he's so good on

9:45

offense. Final sequence, he gets the ball of

9:47

Steven Cenzo off that steel

9:49

slash foul, then just

9:52

comes down draws every defender back out of

9:54

the paint towards him to try to defend

9:56

against like a floater from the

9:59

free throw line. you know that general area

10:01

and then gets it down to Hart to Get

10:04

in there for that and one Opportunity where

10:06

he only had one defender to to beat at that point

10:08

and had the advantage of being on the right side of

10:11

the rim Or the side the left side of the rim

10:13

tag I believe the correct side of the rim To

10:16

you know get that defender off their

10:18

feet and finish that playoff. So

10:21

that was great as well I

10:23

do want to talk more About Josh

10:25

Hart and Dante Di Vincenzo in the games

10:27

that they had Bojan Bogdanovich and his game

10:30

against his former team also

10:32

the Potential new starting lineup that

10:35

I would love to see which would feature

10:37

Bojan Bogdanovich and a little bit of numbers

10:39

to support that Maybe there's something to cook

10:42

with here. But first I gotta let you

10:44

all know about our good friends over at

10:46

Nissan Are You

10:50

the kind of driver that likes to push

10:52

things a little further Do you ever wonder

10:54

what adventure could be around the next corner?

10:56

Well our friends at Nissan have a lineup

10:58

of SUVs with the capabilities to take your

11:00

adventure to the next level So

11:02

how about the 2024 Nissan

11:04

Rogue? It's perfect for city drives

11:07

and great escapes It's got

11:09

classic exclusive Google built-in Which

11:11

is you're always updating assistant to call on

11:13

for almost anything Dawn are the days of

11:15

connecting your phone Google assistant Google Maps and

11:17

Google Play Store are built right into the

11:19

12.3 inch HD touchscreen

11:22

infotainment system and the 2024

11:25

Rogue is the perfect mid-size crossover

11:27

for your next adventure But what

11:29

about the 2024 Nissan

11:31

Armada as well? And it's

11:33

what you expect from a

11:35

full-size SUV You could

11:38

picture a rugged 4x4 that can

11:40

seat up to eight in first-class

11:42

luxury and style and you can

11:44

tow bigger and explore Further in

11:46

the 2024 Armada. So take the

11:48

Nissan Rogue Nissan Pathfinder or

11:50

Nissan Armada and go find

11:52

your next big adventure shop

11:55

nissanusa.com All

12:01

right, and I'm back in to keep talking through this

12:04

narrow next win and Josh

12:07

Hart came through in this

12:09

game big time. Another fantastic performance

12:11

for him. 23 points, eight

12:14

rebounds, six assists, two steals, one block. He

12:16

was just a total ball of fire on

12:18

both ends. He was flying in for rebounds.

12:20

It's getting the break started, which he always

12:22

does. But I think the biggest

12:24

thing for him to be is he

12:26

continues to be confident with that

12:29

three pointer. This is sixth game in the

12:31

last seven, where he's taken at least four

12:33

three pointers. And I think he really

12:35

needs to keep doing that. Like, because he needs to keep

12:37

the defense paying attention to him out there. I think

12:40

it really makes all the difference for him if he at

12:42

least gets a little bit of respect from

12:44

three, because one of the biggest things is if

12:47

teams don't respect him from three and he doesn't

12:49

respect himself from three, then we run

12:51

into issues. Then you run into stuff like what

12:53

happened in the heat series last year, what happens,

12:55

you know, at his worst moments this year, he

12:58

seems not confident. He seems like, you know, he's

13:00

not really looking for his own shot from three,

13:03

which means teams always know that he's going to

13:05

put it on the floor and try to drive.

13:07

And then they can prepare for that and prepare against

13:09

any, you know, counters that he might have out of

13:11

that. Right now, he's, he's just

13:14

pulling into those threes consistently, confidently,

13:17

and teams are starting to respect him a bit

13:19

from there, which is opening things up on

13:21

the offensive end. That final sequence to

13:23

I, you know, I should give him a shout out again,

13:26

just crazy, crazy hustle,

13:28

you know, manages to get that

13:30

and one first to, you

13:32

know, give the next to lead, doesn't hit the free

13:35

throw, but then manages to

13:37

corral his own miss gets another two free throws

13:39

out of that makes one or two there. Then

13:41

corrals another one to end the game and ends

13:43

with the ball in his hands to end the

13:45

game by corralling his own

13:47

miss one more time. Just a

13:49

fantastic showing from him down the stretch, just

13:51

a huge amount of hustle and heart to

13:55

finish this one off. And,

13:57

you know, I thought that he had a phenomenal game

13:59

and should continue. to Dante

14:01

Di Vincenzo as well 21 points five

14:04

of 10 from three eight of 13 shooting

14:06

overall four assists two steals The

14:08

same deal is hard I think he just hustled it

14:10

but hustled his butt off all game even if he

14:13

committed about down the stretch Whatever, I mean,

14:15

that's just sort of exemplified his effort He's willing

14:17

to you know, put himself out there any given

14:19

time to get this game sealed up

14:21

for the Knicks I also

14:24

just think his shot making and scoring is getting

14:26

to crazy levels So since January

14:28

18th, which is now over a month and

14:31

was actually four games before the Randall

14:33

injury In 16 games.

14:36

He's now averaging 21 points for rebounds

14:39

three assists and 1.6 steals on 45.7

14:43

percent shooting overall 40.7 percent

14:45

from three and that's on 11 three-point

14:47

attempts per game and 73.9

14:50

percent from the free throw line. So obviously you hope to

14:52

see that get a little better But he's only taking like

14:54

1.4 free throw attempts for games. You can

14:56

kind of take that with a grain of salt But 41 percent

14:59

shooting on 11 three-point attempts per game

15:02

is insane I mean, that's at

15:05

starting to reach levels of you

15:07

know, peak splash brothers It's like he really did

15:10

just take whatever was left out of

15:12

like clay Thompson and just put

15:14

it in himself as far as you Know

15:16

that three-point shooting ability monster style, but

15:19

if this continues through the end of the season I

15:21

mean, I think there's a world where he enters the

15:23

most improved discussion. He's he's at about 14

15:25

points per game right now Which

15:28

is only up about four points from where

15:30

he was last season But I don't

15:32

know if he continues at this rate. It'll probably end

15:34

up Being at like 16 points

15:36

per game by the end of the season if he

15:38

keeps averaging 20 per game

15:40

for these last 20 games

15:42

and change now granted Maybe this changes a little

15:45

bit once on an obi and Randall get back

15:47

and you know He fades back to

15:49

being the fourth or so option again but it's

15:52

so good to know that he has this

15:54

in him this scoring ability because Now

15:57

the Knicks can count on that if

15:59

they're in a pin You know if there's if

16:01

there's an injury again if if someone has to just

16:03

sit out a little bit during the playoffs So you

16:06

know like one game injuries happen all the time in

16:08

the playoffs or a guy will I

16:10

don't know, you know twist his ankle or something and then

16:12

he has to sit the next game and then is able

16:14

to come Back after that, you know, if it's not a

16:16

major sprain or whatever It's

16:18

good to know that even Chenzo has this gear and

16:21

can be this good of a score and he's proving it

16:23

Consistently and he has yet to slow down. So I'm kind

16:25

of starting to just think this is just who he is

16:28

Boyan Bogdanovich as well Solid

16:31

game I thought 13 points six

16:33

boards shut 5 11 3

16:35

of 8 from 3 his release on

16:37

his jumpers is just so crazy quick I'm starting

16:39

to think between him and even Chenzo the Knicks

16:41

might have one of the fastest shooting combos in

16:44

the NBA I mean it somehow

16:47

he runs in slow motion

16:49

and does everything in slow motion except for shoot the

16:51

ball Where it's basically just the ball touches his hands.

16:53

He shoots And that's

16:56

that's super valuable. I mean that they're gonna

16:58

need that shooting whether it's Down

17:01

the stretch of the season whether it's you know in

17:03

the playoffs, whatever He's proving

17:05

that he can shoot it He's still sort of trying to

17:07

find his way a little bit I think

17:09

Bogdanovich is as far as what his role is going to be

17:11

on this team and I don't know if Tibbs fully

17:14

knows either but I Mean

17:16

if I may suggest it, I think

17:18

a lineup I really want to see get some

17:20

run that maybe still needs a little bit of

17:22

work But could potentially start for this team would

17:25

be Jaelen Brunson Dante Di Vincenzo

17:27

Josh Hart By on Bogdanovich and then

17:29

with either Isaiah Hartenstein or pressure the

17:32

two at the five. I Think

17:35

that's worth exploring more because I don't know it seems

17:37

like Bogdanovich and Brunson need

17:39

some time to learn together So hopefully they're able

17:41

to get it But I think

17:43

he offers that secondary shot creation that

17:46

the starting lineup really needs to take some burden off

17:48

of Brunson And both guys have looked

17:50

like really good separately I think they just kind of

17:52

figure out each other spots playing

17:54

together But just for for reference, I looked

17:56

up the they're cleaning the glass numbers, which

17:58

I don't think are updated for last night's

18:01

game just yet. But

18:03

Brunson, Dante, Josh Hart,

18:05

Bojan and Prashchichua is

18:08

technically a negative lineup. They're at a really,

18:11

honestly, a really poor negative 22

18:13

net rating in 49 possessions

18:15

so far. But they're shooting the lights

18:18

out with that lineup. They're shooting 64.5%

18:20

effective field goal percentage. So

18:22

to me, that feels like something worth exploring

18:25

more. If they can score that efficiently, if

18:28

they figure out the defensive rotations in that

18:30

lineup, which I think they

18:32

have enough defense on the floor there, like

18:34

DiVincenzo and Hart are plus defenders. And

18:36

then one of Hartenstein or Achua is

18:38

gonna give you plus defense at the five. So

18:41

then if like Brunson and Bogdanovich can just

18:44

hold the line well enough at their positions,

18:46

then that should be a good enough defensive

18:48

lineup to take

18:51

advantage of the fact that offensively, it would

18:53

be crazy. I mean, just crazy amounts of

18:55

shooting and shot making and

18:57

a great like four out spacing,

19:00

essentially five out if you wanna include like Precious as

19:02

a shooter. I don't know, I just think

19:04

that's, it's worth exploring more. And

19:06

luckily it got somewhat of a more of a

19:08

look in this game. And I just think it

19:10

needs to maybe be looked at

19:13

as the starting lineup just once or twice. We saw again

19:15

in this game, the next starters kind of came out and

19:18

didn't quite have it to

19:20

start the game. They figured it out late, but

19:23

early on, I think that when you're dealing with

19:25

Brunson is just the Alpha

19:27

and the Omega to start these games. You kind

19:30

of run into situations where he's

19:32

getting draw a lot of defensive attention early.

19:34

And if you can't work your way through

19:36

that immediately in whatever the other team has

19:38

schemed, like you don't have enough creation

19:40

and shot making out there otherwise. So I

19:43

don't know, but I will say that same lineup that

19:45

I highlighted, which was the Brunson, Dante,

19:47

Hart, Bogdan, Precious lineup. If

19:50

you just move Bergson for Di Vincenzo, that

19:53

lineup is a big positive. I think like a plus 17

19:55

in 22 possessions. And

19:57

it's the same if you put Bergson for Hart, it's

19:59

like a plus... 22 and like 18

20:01

possessions So it seems like they

20:03

kind of just need some seasoning as a lineup Like I

20:06

think Brunson Dante og Bojan and I heart

20:08

too would probably be really good as well

20:10

If Randall takes longer than og to get

20:13

back and you need someone to still plug

20:15

that hole for Randall I think

20:17

once you get og back in there who's better on

20:19

defense But not as good with you know

20:21

creation and whatever not as good of a ball handler

20:23

as Josh Hart In the starting

20:25

lineup Then I think it would

20:27

make sense to have Bojan out there because

20:29

og can Definitely cover for him on defense

20:32

and then you can have Bojan out there

20:34

who could you know? Create some more shots and

20:36

make some more threes or whatever. So yeah,

20:38

I don't know I think it's

20:41

worth looking into but I do want to

20:43

highlight the the center trio in this game

20:45

precious Sims and and Isaiah

20:47

Hartenstein and then talk about Evan

20:49

Fornier the booing controversy

20:52

or whatever where

20:54

you know, he got he got booed coming back to the

20:56

garden and Close out

20:58

the show in just a sec. But first I want to

21:01

let all you know about our friends over a better help

21:06

This next segment is brought to us by

21:08

our sponsor better help Sometimes we all need

21:10

the opportunity to get something off our chest

21:12

big or small certain things can really start

21:14

to get to you And it's important to

21:16

let that out especially to someone who's unbiased

21:18

in your life So today I want to

21:20

say how I really feel about something you

21:22

might even be thinking about the same thing

21:24

this week And for me, it's feelings

21:26

of conflict about the Knicks the

21:29

Knicks winning this game And

21:32

yet doing it on a on a ref call and

21:34

now I don't know how to feel about myself anymore.

21:36

I'm questioning questioning everything because just

21:38

two weeks ago, I was

21:40

you know, really uh Railing

21:43

on the refs and how you know, there are

21:45

travesty and this that the other and maybe that's

21:47

still true But I find myself now benefiting from

21:49

it and it makes me Maybe

21:52

a little less likely to be quite as

21:54

vehement in my disapproval. And what does that

21:56

say about me? Am I being a hypocrite

21:58

here? Maybe maybe not. I don't know you

22:11

Most of us have bigger problems than our favorite sports

22:13

teams or refs, and it's important to get things off

22:15

your chest every once in a while. So if you're

22:17

thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It's

22:20

entirely online, designed to be flexible

22:22

and suited to your schedule. So

22:24

visit betterhelp.com/locked on MBA. off

22:27

your first month. That's

22:30

betterhelp.com slash locked on MBA.

22:37

All right. And I'm back in to finish up on this

22:39

game. So let's talk about precious

22:41

a Chua. I wrote this out. I

22:43

feel very, very proud of

22:45

this line. So I hope everybody appreciates

22:47

this. It was another precious gem in

22:50

this game. The spice up are shooting

22:52

four points, 11 boards, two steals, two

22:54

blocks for precious. Uh,

22:56

I'm starting to think you kind of just give

22:58

this guy whatever he wants this off season within

23:00

reason, because he's exactly the Swiss

23:02

army knife type of player this team needs at

23:05

the four or five, especially like

23:07

if the Knicks make it to like the second round

23:09

again this year, or somehow get

23:11

deeper than that. They get to the ECF or something

23:13

like that. Tibbs is definitely still going to have his

23:15

job next year. So we should just be in that,

23:18

in that mindset. Um, I

23:21

still probably believe that if the Knicks want to

23:23

win a championship, they might need a different

23:25

coach, but I'd love to be proven wrong on

23:27

that. But the

23:29

fact is unless the Knicks colossally disappoint

23:31

this, this, uh, postseason, he's, he's going

23:33

to be the coach probably all of

23:35

next year as well. So as long

23:38

as that remains the case, I think precious is

23:40

really the perfect four or five for

23:42

this team under Tibbs and you

23:44

know, he does exactly what Tibbs likes and yet

23:46

also can give you some other stuff, which is

23:49

rare. It's rare to have a guy that

23:51

can go out there, provide that rim defense

23:53

the way that precious has been, uh, you

23:56

know, also provide the rebounding that Tibbs requires

23:58

out of that five position. And

24:00

yet also be able to stay out there as a four and not

24:03

look foolish for it. He's not, although

24:05

I'm about to praise this guy, he's not Jericho Sims

24:07

out there as the four, where it's like, well, this

24:09

guy is pretty good on defense and good at rebounding,

24:11

but cannot do anything

24:14

to justify being a four man

24:16

on offense. Because you need spacing,

24:18

precious, luckily, even if he's not a great

24:21

three point shooter, at least draws

24:23

the defense's attention enough. And then has the ability to

24:25

put the ball on the floor too, and is

24:28

a half decent passer and just especially once you

24:30

get him into a role, it seems like he

24:32

really embraces that role

24:34

and is

24:37

able to do whatever you need, whether he's the four, whether

24:39

he's the five. He seems to

24:41

understand both assignments now at this point. He

24:43

also only played 34 minutes with Isaiah

24:45

Hartenstein getting somewhat back to normal, so that's a

24:48

good thing as well. I

24:50

want to highlight Sims though, I did just mention him a second

24:52

ago. He had 2.6

24:54

rebounds, four offensive rebounds in

24:56

20 minutes. He played really great defense, total

24:59

demon on the offensive glass again. I

25:02

thought that he just is

25:04

doing really good defensively, keeping himself in front

25:06

of whoever he ends up on. His

25:09

versatility is really good. And like I said,

25:12

I said this a couple games ago, I

25:14

think with Gavin, he's got a little Taj

25:16

Gibson in him with how he defends. Obviously,

25:18

he's much more able to get vertical, but

25:21

he's not really a crazy shot blocker. He's

25:23

just gotten really, really good at moving his

25:25

feet and keeping guys out

25:27

of the paint in that way. Rather

25:30

than daring them to come at him, he kind of just

25:32

walls them off and says, well, once you eventually

25:34

try to go up for a shot, I can

25:36

jump up high. And defend that

25:38

or just use my standing reach to bother

25:41

you, but you're just not going to get

25:43

around me. That's gonna be my goal and

25:45

he does really, really good with that. Isaiah

25:48

Hartenstein too, continues to kind

25:50

of get back in the flow here. Six

25:52

points, eight rebounds, four assists, one block.

25:55

And that one block is a monster block. I definitely had

25:57

to point that out. It was stopped.

25:59

Jalen Dern OOP at the rim along with precious

26:01

there as well. They both kind of got in

26:04

there and Block that

26:06

dunk attempt crazy good stuff

26:08

from Isaiah Hartenstein. He loved to see that Also

26:11

got 27 minutes. So he slowly but surely

26:13

getting back to his normal starters minute load

26:15

again Hopefully he continues to be allowed

26:17

to just kind of play around 30 though I think

26:19

that would be good for him Especially

26:22

like I said with precious playing as well as he is

26:24

You know you can get precious in there for 30

26:26

something minutes and Hartenstein in for 30 as well Because

26:29

precious can share the floor with them. That's that's

26:31

solid. I think that's good and

26:34

lets Hartenstein hopefully not overexert himself

26:37

because For all

26:39

of the debates about is tips causing

26:41

over exertion injuries blah blah blah like

26:43

we know for a fact that Isaiah

26:45

Hartenstein's injury is an overexertion injury and

26:47

he needs to not Play like 45

26:49

minutes anymore. So at least not until

26:52

the games really matter. So hopefully

26:54

this this continues But

26:56

then just to address the final thing from this game, so

27:00

Evan Fornier Returned

27:02

as well as Clinton Grimes. He got booed all the

27:04

hell which I don't know Maybe

27:06

he was a little excessive by like the fourth or

27:08

fifth time he was getting booed but I didn't

27:11

fully get the outrage from

27:13

the A

27:16

lot of people were like the beat especially the

27:18

the Knicks beat online We're all

27:20

just being like Evan was a professional like why are

27:22

dicks fans doing this? He doesn't deserve this blah blah

27:24

blah blah blah and I don't

27:26

know I think he said and did all

27:28

the right things when there was a Mike

27:32

shoved in his face in the locker room here Towards

27:36

the end and you know was mostly

27:38

a good soldier or whatever but I Mean

27:41

if I was gonna pick out a few things

27:43

that would maybe give Knicks fans a little bit

27:46

of juice to boo him One every

27:48

single time he got interviewed by a French outlet He

27:51

would go way more in on the Knicks than

27:53

he ever would to any American reporter Basically,

27:56

I guess assume that people don't have

27:58

Google Translate and wouldn't be looking for

28:00

articles that he was a part of or whatever. And

28:03

so I mean, he was, he was

28:05

trashing the organization more in those sort

28:07

of things than he ever and basically

28:09

being like, I was wrong. But

28:11

the reality is he wasn't like he wasn't, he

28:14

wasn't wrong here and yet would kind of act

28:17

like he was which came out when he first got to

28:19

Detroit. So then you know, the second thing I would

28:21

say that is he got to Detroit and then I was

28:23

like, Oh, so happy to be out in New York. Never

28:26

really was like, Oh, thanks for giving

28:29

me a big contract and trusting

28:31

me to be your starting shooting guard for a year,

28:33

even though I blew that opportunity. So

28:36

I don't know. I mean, he's, he was pretty, pretty

28:39

straightforward about how he felt when he left. So

28:41

I can't blame fans for seeing that quote and

28:43

then being like, Oh, you don't like us, we

28:45

don't like you, you know, you weren't any good

28:47

anyway. So like, why should we, you know, have

28:50

to stand on decorum here for you. And

28:53

then lastly, I think

28:55

this is big too, even if you set the single

28:57

season three point record, which people also

28:59

were bringing up last night, like he's your three point

29:02

single season three point record holder. Why are you not

29:04

like respecting him more? It's like, well,

29:06

yeah, he did that in one of the worst seasons

29:08

in recent memory. And probably it's

29:10

a record that a lot of people now are

29:12

going to look at and be like, Oh, great.

29:15

You took the three point record

29:17

from John Starks, which had stood for 30

29:19

years in a season where, you know,

29:22

you're bad, like the team was bad. And, you

29:25

know, we just want to forget that season even exists. And

29:27

now it's in the record books, as

29:29

the most three pointers made in Nick's

29:31

history. You know, I

29:33

think that maybe that just kind of rubs people

29:36

the wrong way, too, especially when, you know, he played

29:38

himself out of the rotation by halfway through the next

29:40

year, and got replaced by Quentin Grimes.

29:42

So I don't know, I, I think

29:45

maybe the booing was a little excessive, but

29:48

also not completely unjustified. Let's just put it

29:50

that way. But yeah,

29:52

then Quentin Grimes, I think probably won't be getting

29:54

too much love from Nick's fans

29:56

either. He's had the comment, but that's just

29:58

Nick's fans for you. So. I

30:01

don't know. He's you know, if you got asked about that

30:03

and was like well Evan was my vet and blah blah

30:06

But that's Nick stands for you. They're gonna boo

30:08

him. It's like, okay, bud. Well, anyway, he's

30:10

probably not getting cheered next time But

30:12

uh, yeah The Knicks won still so unless

30:14

Detroit decides to do what the Knicks did

30:17

and put in our protests at the league

30:19

Seems like this is gonna stand we got a game tonight Against

30:22

the New Orleans Pelicans so back to back

30:24

not a lot of time for the Knicks

30:26

to figure this out Hopefully they're able to

30:29

to you know, kind of sort out some of the

30:31

issues because pelicans are legitimately a good team But

30:34

we'll be here for you tomorrow

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features